FULL VERSION 1992 - Graf vs Seles - Wimbledon
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"No discussion of Monica Seles’s unique attributes and playing style could be complete without mention of her infamous grunt.
Contemporary tennis players all have variants of a basic exhaling mechanism when they hit the ball. Commentators and sports doctors debate over the value of grunting, weighing the benefits in timing it confers versus the wasted physical exertion in doing so.
For many players though, grunting is not even a question of choice, yet followers of tennis agree that it was Seles’ grunt that set the yardstick by which all others would or should be measured against... Seles was an equal opportunity grunter- her cries rang across the court regardless of whether she was hitting a thundering overhead, or a feathery drop shot.
During Monica’s run to the Wimbledon final in 1992, tabloids continually jeered her grunt. They started with the witty, dubbing her “Moan-ica”, and then went to the outright mean, demanding on tabloid covers that she “Stop That Grunt!”.
Public teasing turned into professional controversy when numerous opponents complained that Seles’ grunts were actively distracting and conferred an unfair advantage. Martina Navratilova, a respected player and an elder stateswoman of the game, went on the record saying that the screaming was so bad that she could not hear the ball come off of Seles’s racquet, slowing her own reaction time.
Whether opponents’ complaints about Seles’ excessive grunting were products of passive frustration at being unable to beat her on the court, a reaction against a perceived unfeminine approach she took to the game, or a valid complaint against self-serving gamesmanship, Seles’s grunting became part of her legacy as much as her "breathtakingly natural talent."
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This match took over 5 hours to complete due to the intermittent rain. Thank god for the roof now.
Great mental strength by Graf to keep her composure through all the stoppages.
Hopefully one day the comments for a Graf/Seles match will be just be respectful for both players! They are both legends of the game - a potential rivalry that could have been the greatest, horribly stopped when it was just getting going, we just have 15 matches to enjoy and appreciate, they really could bring out the best in each other, some amazing points in this match.
hill 42 hi hill 42, thanks for your great, insightful and knowledgeable comment. I totally agree with your analysis of the legendary Seles vs. Graf rivalry. What people tend to forget over the last 30 years is what Monica delivered to the WTA and global sport at the time...
We had seen the awesome Evert vs. Navratilova rivalry for 10+ years before Steffi exploded into the game around 1986. Steffi was young, German and Uber-talented. She blitzed both old girls and quickly smashed her way into the undisputed #1 spot. The performance of Graf in 87 88 89 was astonishing.
Nobody outside of the Bolletieri Academy had any idea Monica was about to hit the circuit... just ask Andre and Jim, they were there.
To think that after all of Graf’s legendary success and super-talent that by the time 1993 came around she was only 22 years old with 11 Grand Slams - Steffi had turned pro in 1984... but then Monica Seles, by 1993 she was just 19 years old and had won 8 Grand Slams - Monica turned pro in 1989...
You can see where this is going if the Hamburg incident never occurred... thanks again for your terrific comment hill 42. Enjoy!
@@PertSnergleman we can all speculate about what would have, could have been and I just think what would have been was some amazing epic matches, imagine a 5 set year end championship battle! Thankyou for sharing these matches with us
@@hill4252 yes, I agree... my point is not "what could Monica have achieved..." my only point (and the only relevant point of discussion) is Monica was every bit Steffi's equal in ability and natural talent. Both were well above the rest of the competition.
As Monica was taken away from this healthy rivalry as she approached the peak of her abilities, the entire world was denied epic sporting greatness which most definitely would have resulted from the gorgeous competitiveness of these two champions...
@@PertSnergleman Graf exploded into the game around 1987.
thanks for loading this videos Pert. I've always been Graf's fan but overall I'm also a tennis fan. Just read Seles biography which reminded me how great she was. I was a kid when she started dominating so definitely did not appreciate her as much as I do now. Looking forward to watching this match and later the the AO 1993 fina!
The year that both Agassi & Graf won the Wimbledon title ❤.
And he was so hoping they could hang out at the champions ball but she wasn’t that interested then.
It was when both won Roland Garros in 99 that they really hit it off.
@@1Rdby yes thats true
Steffis Beineinarbeit unfassbar! Wie eine Tänzerinn, bis heute... Ihre Forhand erst... unglaublich
I loved how Steffi's mom would applaud for Seles and Monica's dad for Graf.
That is rare and was wonderful. But although Graf has always been my favorite, even I must admit that Monica might have surpassed Margaret Court if she had not been stabbed by a Graf fan in 1993. Monica's greatest foe was the grass at Wimbledon which is why she never won there, but in 1993 or 94 she probably would have. This was a great rivalry and might have been a greater one than the Chrissie/Martina rivalry. My other regret is that Seles's dad referred to Steffi as Knife Number One after his daughter was so brutally sidelined.
Tennis at its best! Even today there are very few such clinical performances. Two prodigies clashing... ❤❤
Back in the days when women´s tennis was worth to watch. Miss these ladies sooooo very much
Tbey used to be females back then. These days, I am not too sure.
Pretty stupid comments. We still have great women players.
This match is so exciting, much more than the scoreboard shows. Two great champions. I love it!
Two of the best champions in tennis !!!
Peak Steffi was and still is the best what women’s tennis had to offer.
She should have played until age 40 like Serena!
No, Seles made her irrelevant and won 7/9 slams before the stabbing. Otherwise Graf would have total of 13 slams probably
@@yussepig6629 Seles won those 7 slams only because Steffi was slumping so badly that she missed 5 of the finals.
Whereas in her peak 1987-89 and 1995/96 years the great German missed zero of 17 finals in the slams she played.
No Selestial nutter ever was able to name 9 slams Steffi would not have won in 1993-99.
But at least most of them agree that Steffi would have also won Wimbledon 1994 with Seles being in the draw.
I miss watching Steffy Graf so much! A true champion 👑👑
I also missing Steffi Graf so much a true champion.❤
both these players were great.....delight to watch...
Wow great match, thanks for the trip down memory lane...😊
51:21 One of the greatest points in women tennis history...EPIC!
Getting to that down-the-line shot by Seles at the end and chipping that backhand over the net mid-court to Seles was amazing ! Seles didn't do enough, though and Graf smashed a fraulein forehand crosscourt on the line ! Best wheels in the history of tennis - no contest !
we know Steffi was a fantastic mover but even Monica moved incredible well on this point
Steffi is the GOAT!
Even the lineswoman was smiling.
Back in the day when WTA players offered something as equally interesting as ATP.
There was great rivalries and all the top ranked really worked their ass-off to be in the top ten.
Here it is: Ranked no 1 & no. 2 played in the final.
Ranked no. 3 & ranked no. 4 were semifinalists as well.
Unlike nowadays, WTA so called top 10 rank will easily lose in early rounds. Nowadays those who are in top 20-top 10 only need 3-4 okay on court achievements, because the other players will flop out of the blue.
Back in 80's -90's and early 2000's, WTA Girlies had to play their best to defeat their opponents
Nowadays, the WTA girlies just hope that their opponents have bad time & bad mood 🤷🤷
Thank you for uploading. I have watched this match live then.
This is one of my beautiful memory as a child....thank u for upload this
Hi @Aloysius Wicaksono, beautiful memories indeed. PertSnergleman is so happy to share these gorgeous classic matches between two true Champions. Enjoy!
Thanks so much for uploading this is simply the best picture
This is such a sweet memory of my childhood...thank u for upload this
Waktu jaman SD ya
@@abdullahsuherman2186 iya sayang
I love both player. Steffi and Monica. They are unique, different and classy
Enya nya kang... sae duanana
abdullah suherman sae 👍🏻
Dua2nya pemain hebat, sama2 cantik, tapi entah kenapa dulu saya lebih mengidolakan monica seles..😆😆
@@cadiaproplayer3424 Iya dia unique karena suara grunting haih! Nya qeqeqe. Apalagi pas nonton final FO 1992 Saya masih smp kelas 2 klo gak salah di RCTI seru bgt. Dia mmg tidak seatletis Steffi Graf tapi pukulannya tajam Dr Baseline apalagi Dr dalam lapangan pas nyerang. Sedangkan Steffi pengembalian bola2 rendah Dr lawan tanggung sehingga Seles enak menghajarnya. Tapi klo bola2nya tinggi Steffi bagus bisa mukul forehand sambil terbang kencang sekali. 22 nya unique so entertaining
@@enjangyusuf2ndchannel468 sama2 penggemar tenis di jamannya ya bang.. kalau saya, saat itu sdh sma kelas 2, lbh menyukai seles krn bosan dg dominasi graff, terutama saat meraih golden slam plus medali emas olimpade 1988. Begitu ada penantang yg cukup tangguh, masih belia, cantik dan imut, saya langsung suka...
Beautiful outfits back in Time…. Love it…..😊😊❤️☘️😉
1:14:15. The crowd cheering again when they see Steffi returning from the locker room to get interviewed by Bud Collins! 😍
Min 34:21 I'll forever remember that point / min 51:30 even the line judge smiles! Loved this match
51:21 hammer rallye.
Seles hammered a forehand longline deep that landed close to the baseline which Graf only just returned, seles then absolutely powered a backhand longline that made the reporter shout out "wow" in admiration, Graf got to this one with her phenomenal speed, but her return landed short , so moving in Seles fired another backhand into the cross court corner, but slick Graf had anticipated that shot and was already on her way. Hitting a running forehand passing shot for a winner. Great rallye.
Steffi is such a unique and special player. A delight to watch. No-one can equate to her style, poise and class.
@Max E yep dude, kicked her ass.
@@joeyconvery2055 How was it not fair? (this ought to be good)
@@broncoguy4862 You know why..
@@joeyconvery2055 🤣
@@joeyconvery2055 #1 Seles vs. Steffi Graf 2-5 win/loss.
The way Monica handled defeat was exemplary.
1992 was her best year ever and last chance for a calendar Grand Slam sweep of all 4 majors.
Chris Evert always said Kipling's famous poem "If" that hangs in the hallway right before players take to Center Court, those words shaped how she conducted herself as a tennis player.
The words to "If" are:
"If you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same".
Chris and Monica two exemplary champions how they handle both victory and defeat.
Seles never had any chance to win the Grand Slam.
It would have needed Steffi bombing out before the finals in BOTH Wimbledon AND the USO.
Seles will never have chance to win all 4 Grandslam in same calendar year.
Might be possible only in your personal dreams. Chris Evert is the biggest Steffi's haters and biggest slave of Seles. Evert has a high ego
Both Chrissy and Martina have been rats, always degrading Steffi, #TheGOAT, because she put an end to their careers.
IF, if only you people weren't tiktok educated it would show.
Your comment ist unfair, No Chris Evert hast high respect for Steffi as she lost more than one time against her.
Штеффи любимая теннисистка, считаю ее лучшей за всю историю. Но как достойно ведет себя 19-летняя Моника, молодец. Если бы не Пархе, мы смогли бы увидеть еще десятка два больших эпических матчей этих легенд.
I agree, we were robbed of many great matches and a great rivalry of these two terrific champions.
Thank you for your comment, Enjoy! :)
Look at Graf's speed at 34:41 and 51:21 points. So smooth and fast, gazelle-like indeed!
even the lineswoman smiled at 51:43
Lots of love for graf
Great Steffi Graf 👌😍😍😍
Oh that second one was so good it was scandalous!!! That defense was Nadal level. The footspeed is just insane!
I had to laugh a little when Chris Evert said that Steffi's topspin backhand was a new shot that she was working on with Heinz Gunthardt. Steffi hit that backhand aplenty in the 80s. Chris herself played against Steffi where Steffi hit those types of backhands (1986 Hilton Head, 1989 Boca Raton, etc.). She hit it less often though in the 90s after her thumb injury and she was also playing against less net rushers so she didn't really need it.
gk891 I have to laugh a little every time I just hear Chris Evert commentate! 😅
@@PertSnergleman Hahaha. She has improved (in my opinion), but Virginia Wade is still my favorite woman commentator. Mary Carrillo is my LEAST favorite!
@Illya Kuryakin One thing that annoyed me in Evert's commentary at the 1999 French Open was that Steffi had a tendency to always hit crosscourt with her slice backhand. That was true from about 1990 to 1994 when she started hitting her groundstrokes much closer to her body. But in the late 80s (back when she played Chris herself) and 1995 onwards, Steffi had an amazing down the line slice backhand.
@GoTeam Well, she is now earning her living kissing Serena Williams' big fat ass. Just listen to her commentating Serena's matches, or defending her after one of her many tennis tantrums.
Lot of hating on here for Chris evert
Steffi so beautiful and happy in victory and Seles very gracious in defeat.
Yes. Two great women.
Remembering those early school days when i used to see Sampras and steffi graf.
Such a shame that Monica wasn’t allowed to play her natural game. Even with grass being her worst surface throught all of her career (1 title; Eastbourne 1996) I am sure she would have won Wimbledon at least once and be able to complete the career Grand Slam. She was having incredible results in her only 3rd time competing (4R at 15, QF at 16, and Finalist at 18). It even took Wimbledon’s greatest female player Martina Navratilova (9 titles) to try 5 times before winning it for the first time at 21 years old. Never a player male or female has been more realized at such a young age as Monica was, and I doubt there will ever be. Thank you Monica for all you did for tennis.
Martina Hingis was the youngest Wimbledon winner of the last century. And she broke other records. Capriati also and Gauff is on her way.
Steffi kicked her ass. I am sorry.
Graf got handed a title for racism, yeah for her I guess. Seles was such a vastly superior player that she got stabbed for being so good. You on the other hand are complete trash.@@angelflorespacheco8992
The other players and media bullied Seles because she was too good. Her grunting was nothing even compared to some of here contemporaries. The only reason people attacked her for it was because they couldn't defeat her on a level court. Your comment should be at the top of this section.
I can't remember seeing this on tv. Probably did though. But thank you for uploading. Graf was insanely good in this match. The way she moves is brilliant, and so are the control of the racket - just listen to the sound of it - and the pace with which she hits the ball. The current top 10 of women's tennis would not have stood a chance.
Interesting, I completely disagree. I loved Graf, but I think players in the game today could expose her backhand a lot more than players back then. I don’t remember most players trying to hit the ball as hard back then, it’s was more of a strategic game. Today, they hit the ball so hard and I think they are better at striking the ball when the ball is below the net. I think SG would have struggled with her slice backhand.
@@amandavalpey1521 peak Serena in 2009 & 2012-2015 would beat Graff in straight sets no doubt.
@@djordjenikolic9059 hahahahahaha you’re a true comedian. Your peak Serena lost to an archaic dehydrated shriveled up Vinci and Who the hell is Bencic in 2015. As wonderful as you are trying to convince us that she is, in 2009 she lost to an old Schnyder, Zakapalova(who the f.... is that), Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Bammer!!!!!!!!!!! and a whole bunch of others. Then in 2010 she lost to Makarova!!!!!!!, Razzano, Kerber and Wozniacki. Then in 2013 loses to Lisicki of all people, twice in the same year to Azarenka and then to Stephens, 2014: loses to Cornet 3 times!!!!, Cepelova(another who the f....... is that moment), one hit wonders Ivanovic and Muguruza. So please you’re truly embarrassing yourself here. If you want to worship Serena, please go to her video and do it there. Oh and she probably would never have survived during Steffi’s time as PED’s were not in use then. As evident; there were never reports of other players running to their safe rooms and calling the cops when the testers came a testing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@markdecena4559 Well said.
@Max E no dude, not nuts.
Steffi was a class on her own. Miss her.
Absolutely magnificent steffi graf but seles also know how to carry herself in defeat.. 2 greatest champions!!
THE ONE AND ONLY STEFFI.....FOREVER.
Steffi Simply The Best! The GOAT!
Thank you Stefanie Graf 💝 amazing
I believe Steffi Graf and Seles are a lot like Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. If Monica’s fate were different, I think their rivalry and grand slam count would be similar to Roger and Rafa’s.
If we had to only consider Monica’s years of absence, who would you think would win those GS if Monica was still competing? 🤔 Please be thoughtful in your reply and consider the other competitors who won those Slams were either their shining moment, stronger on that tennis surface, etc. No matter how great a tennis player was, it’s impossible to stay and maintain their peak for a prolonged period of time.
I am a Steffi Graf fan and I believe she is the Greatest of All Time but I do like to understand other tennis fans perspectives. What are your thoughts?
1993 French Open - Steffi Graf
1993 Wimbledon - Steffi Graf
1993 US Open - Steffi Graf
1994 Australian Open - Steffi Graf
1994 French Open - Arantxa Sanchez Vicario
1994 Wimbledon - Conchita Martinez
1994 US Open - Arantxa Sanchez Vicario
1995 Australian Open - Mary Pierce
1995 French Open - Steffi Graf
1995 Wimbledon - Steffi Graf
In this match, three incredible points by Steffi showcasing her speed, athleticism and the greatest forehand at 23:51, 34:40, and 51:22.
And what a great sports and how nice Monica still is right after that tough defeat, just watch the interview. All respect to her.
Chris Evert always said Kipling's famous poem "If" that hangs in the players lounge right before they take to Center Court, those words affected how she would handle herself as a tennis player.
The words to "If" are:
If you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same.....
@@shihlin1 And what is then?
@@shihlin1 Do you think Chris Evert decision is the only decision that could be taken by the World ?
Stupid and idiotic American Old Witch Chris Evert. So disgusting
Steffi à son meilleure, athlétique dans tous les sens du termes. Puissance, grâce, précision, rapidité, une merveille
@@roobookaroo I am german, but there's nothing wrong with "dans tous les sens du terme". It's exactly the same in german. Word for word (almost). And it absolutely suits the context.
Total and complete dominance of graf over seles before and after stabbing!!!!
Steffi Is The GOAT! Simply The Best!
Yet Seles won 3 of the 4 slam finals they played before the attack and the only Tier 1 they played (Berlin). Even if Steffi led the h2h 6-4, you can’t consider that Brighton or San Antonio are the same as slam finals…
The footspeed of Steffi at her best has still to be parallelled by any woman in tennis.
Simona Halep is one answer to the question. She is probably even speedier than Graf was. A good test would be timing the sprint from side to side behind the baseline 2 times, even 3 times in a row if such comparable clips can be found. I am persuaded that Halep is as fast, if not faster than Graf on this specific side-to-side sprint. Another test would be timing on rushing to the net to retrieve a dropshot starting from the baseline. Halep is built like an 100m Olympic sprinter, Graf more like an Olympic decathloner, more of an all-round athlete. On linear speed alone, my money is on Halep, ha, ha. Watch her in the 2019 Wimbledon final against Serena Williams.
@@roobookaroo Apples and oranges, man.
@@roobookaroo Simona? Haha
Agreed. I think Venus at her best comes close but Steffi is more nimble and can change direction more easily.
@@Menexpert agreed. Venus is the only other female I think which came close to Steffi’s footspeed. Steffi trumps in agility though
Grandiosa Steffi Graf , la mejor tenista del mundo y con un hermoso juego
I love them both, classy players
This final has the reputation for being a blow-out, but that first set was tighter than I imagined it was. Seles was in it.
Graf fans love Monica's Dad. He was just the best Dad ever on tour. He obviously loved his daughter very much. But he had no negative animus against the players who had to play his daughter. He applauded their winners!!! A saint, I would say (unlike Steffi's father, or Djokovic's, or Pierce's and many others...).
Pa Seles insulted poor Steffi after his daughter‘s stabbing.
No, a saint he definitely wasn‘t.
@@carrerau7138 No, I have never read anything about that. I do not think it ever happened. But if it did, I can understand it; the circumstances were such that he was afraid for his daughter's life. So shove it.
@@anthonydecastro6938 Pa Seles called Steffi the “Stabbing No. 1“ and criticized her for not leaving the tour for the same time as his daughter needed to recuperate physically and psychologically.
I lost all respect for him after that.
And my respect for Monica is also very limited after she insinuated in interviews and in her book that Steffi voted against her keeping the #1 ranking after the stabbing.
Conclusion: You are not a nice and classy person just because you or your daughter gets stabbed.
You are wrong, both Steffi’s parents have applauded her opponent’s winners. You need to watch more matches and stop concentrating on the negatives. Also, Karolj did say those things insinuating that it was Steffi’s fault : "It means to Monica not to ever again come to Germany and also not to play tennis until Graf is not competing," said a distraught Karolj Seles - NY Times April 30, 1995. It’s good to get the correct facts before mouthing off.
@@markjames1127 sorry, i did not see that quote about Steffi from Monica's father. please give exact reference. otherwise, you are making up these quotes...
My goodness; Steffi was beautiful!
Steffi walked by me in a rain delay at the 92 US Open , she had a jacket over her head , didn’t realize it was her til I saw those legs , best legs ever in tennis 😍
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Incredible match by Steffi. A shame that Monica didn't play with her usual intensity, but c'est la vie and how graceful was she in defeat. Both wonderful champions.
Seles had no chance on fast surfaces against Steffi.
Seles and Graf had transformed the world of women's tennis. Seles presented an aggressive power hitting while Graf showed powerful forehand. Most of the athletes today have developed a powerful forehand and double backhand.
Graf also showed world class slice and legendary footwork and prepartion
Seles showed up the mental toughness gamestyle to the world
Monica not fast enough for grass courts. You can see her limited mobility here, not like it was going to improve in the next three years....
Steffi was really an elegant player
Nadie como Steffi Graf eres unica nadie juega como tu idola 😊😊👍
At 24:00 Seles thought she had that point won, but no other woman had the quickness & power to reach that ball and flick it back to her other than Graf!! Amazing!!!!
Monica’s game not made for grass and that final was wet and many delays , not her day and Graf played well
MAXI PAZ same circumstances for Steffi, too
No other woman? You never saw Venus Williams at her peak?
@@regworld1167 true true, but I mean no other woman in that particular time...V was only around 12 in ' 92...wasn't even in the juniors...but at her peak, yeah, very strong too!!!
@@regworld1167 Very fast, too, but marred by sometimes very average footwork, though. Not Venus' fault, she was/is a flagpole at, what, 6'2" ?
I love steffi but i would like to say monica was very humble in defeat. She never made excuses but just praised steffi for really beating her here, giving the credit to her opponent. Not all women tennis players are like that.
❤❤steffi❤❤
This is the match that Seles wanted to play again, figuratively speaking. She was warned by the organizers not to grunt or may face disqualification. It all started with Navratilova whining after losing to her in the SF. Of course, without her grunting, Seles could not produce her best tennis. Anyway, she beat Graf after this, at the Australian Open.
@Rakesh Thapa you are wrong. Seles beat her after this match at the Australian Open. And then the Nazi stabber did the job for graf.
@Rakesh Thapa Graf was the happiest person when they planned to stab her because Seles kept beating her ass even though seles has not yet reached her true potential, so after the stabbing Seles was never the same again. So your arguments are useless.
@Rakesh Thapa Graf was the happiest person when they planned to stab her because Seles kept beating her ass even though seles has not yet reached her true potential, so after the stabbing Seles was never the same again. Oh, and Graf lost first round Wimbledon. If an unknown player could trash Graf in the first round, what makes you think seles could not beat her, huh? So your arguments are useless
@Rakesh Thapa of course ! Seles was just new to the scene, a teenager. You are pathetic fanatic. And even Seles was just new she already beat graf 4x in a finals.
@Rakesh Thapa u are completely NUTS. Seles was injured that time with her foot. she even said "NO BIG DEAL". what is shameful is graf using a deranged fanatic to stab seles in the back so she sould get back at the top ranking. really shameful...
Seles You are Legend, great counter attacks, Hard hitting, You are the BEST OF BEST LEGENDs.....
Not really sure it’s correct to call Seles best of the best on this video post. She lost heavily. Rather embarrassing for Seles. Graf producing a level of tennis that I have only seen a few times in the history of the sport. I think your comment would be more appropriate on another video. Try to use better judgement.
Suresh Babu what match did you watch? Surely not this one.
Even without "Grunt Gate" hanging over this match, I still think it was Graf's match to win.
It was just her day, everything seemed to be working for her---close line calls, aces, shots right on the line, etc.
Seles had "Grunt Gate" hanging over her like a dark cloud over Wimbledon ready to burst any minute.
In previous rounds, Seles' opponents Tauziat (Qtrs) and Navratilova (semis) both complained to the umpire numerous times about Monica's grunting. The British press had a field day about Monica's grunting that it dominated all the news headlines.
Even the commentators in the broadcast booth couldn't stop talking about it.
Even a player with Monica's mental strength, it's tough to block it out.
Graf had three weeks to think about the close loss in Paris and how she had her chances in that match.
To her credit she did not exhibit the tentative uncertainty she showed at the French.
In winning or losing, Monica showed the same graceful composure.
Chris Evert always said it's how you handle winning and losing with the same balance that will define you as a player. That's the mark of a champion.
In that case Serena is the worst champion ever. If there is something that she can't handle is loosing and body fat
One thing people seem to forget is that Seles' grunting was not warmly received by the tennis community...not just Wimbledon. She already had a reputation of being eccentric and paranoid (ironically), the loud grunts were viewed as a form of gamesmanship meant to throw off her opponents. Whether true or not, this match backfired in the sense that it demonstrated Seles could turn off the grunting at will, like you turn off a light. Of course these days, a lot of players grunt...ever seen a match between Azarenka and Sharapova? It will make your ears bleed.
@@broncoguy4862 Thank goodness those days btw those two are over.
But don't matter cuz every other player these days - both men and women - GRUNT !
Glorious!
she was bullied ,enough said she is only 18 ,this is not good,I really hope you are happy people,she was a kid
Yes. Everyone was shit at her
Seles should be thrilled. All she did was get destroyed in a match she was ALWAYS losing anyway but without the grunting there would be no excuse to latch onto. Instead now her retarded fan base have yet another excuse (to go with stabbing excuse, daddy sick excuse, too fat excuse, too young excuse, too old excuse, too much Chinese buffets excuse) to conveniently tack onto another of her big losses. Typical Seles fan or Selestial as they are known response "Peak Seles was bestest and greatest and prettiest and perfectest player everywhere, even grass, yeah I know she had no Wimbledons but she is still the best ever even on grass, and she really won all those Wimbledons since she only didn't win in 91 since she was fucking Donald Trump, in 90 due to bad line calls, in 89 since she was too young, in 92 since she didn't grunt, every other year since she was stabbed, too fat, or too old". Seles fans give Nadal fanboys a run for their money of their undefeated moral champion, undefeated when you win, lol!
Great players both of them.
Even though it was shortened by that awful stabbing, this was a great rivalry. Steffi Graf's forehand surely is the most versatile of them all, men or women. So much power down the line or inside out and with great disguise. Her backhand slice was simple superb and it got so much better as opponents began avoiding her frightening forehand. Brilliant serving and coupled with majestic footwork she is surely the greatest women's singles champion of them all.
I think Steffis greatest asset was her speed. She was physically the best player on tour especially her footspeed.
What about Serena GOAT ?
@@shihlin1 She is the GOTT - Greatest of These Times!
@@roshanfernando9657 no dude you're wrong.
@@shihlin1 She won 23 grandslam titles.But she couldn't get close to the absolutly great golden slam winner Steffi Graf
it was a very high level match even we look back from now
Many of the Graf Sales matches from the early 90s hold up very well. They were ahead of their time in some ways.
Steffi in this match wanted avenge Roland Garros and she played in perfect manner. Howewer very pretty Monica when applaud her opponent. Two great Champions. Unique!
This was when Wimbledon was Wimbledon !!!! The old slick grass , replaced in 2002 , with a firmer blade , higher bounce , which changed the whole beauty of the tournament, in thos e days you had “specialists ‘’ , grass , and clay court specialists , thus providing better theater , no contrasts any longer and the game has taken a step back , all baseline play . Sad 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Totally agree.
its kind of very sad that those specialists dissappeared. to win on very different surfaces was the greatest challenge for a player to show completion. thats all gone now. nowadays they'e all hittng as hard as possble from the baseline. they play in wimbledon the same as they do at the us open. gone the days when wimbledon was the greatest obstacle for the baseliners to go for the grand slam. gone the days when it was an almost unsolvabe challenge for the clay champs of the french open to add a wimbledon victory. in my eyes, the nowadays players arent even capable anymore of approaching the net, if this would be the logical thing to do. certainly here is a niche for young players to learn to do so - in order to rise the game again on a higher level.
Yeah it sucks now
First loss in a Grand Slam match for Monica after 41 wins.
YES, And rightfully so, to the hands of The GOAT.
If they allowed her to grunt, she would have swept all 92 slams and GUNTHER PARCHE knew it
@@ricasrucksack still she couldn't have won Wimbledon.
She owned Graf everywhere she’s and would have owned her at Wimbledon too. That’s why she was stabbed
Las 2 mejores jugadoras femeninas de los 90 👏✊
I miss Dick Enberg and Bud Collins. They were the GOAT tennis commentator team.
As a Seles fan this was a very hard match to watch
@Max E you again haha 😂
The fact is that Seles became #1 in 91-93 because Steffi kept losing to other people in semis. She and Seles were .500 in their matches. This is not a slam on Seles. She was most consistent from 91-93, and so deserved to be #1.
@@antinotis sure. Seles was the better player.
Steffi dominated the game thru and thru. Very nice win. What an elegant chase and her speciality slicing. Happy that I watched it live then and feeling very happy to have watched it now too 👍
Agassi was very excited about this victory, I'm sure!
In 1992? Why?
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I think agassi said he was looking forward to dancing with steffi at the party but dancing was cancelled this year. So their relationship was postponed. 😂
@@BadPepsiManSteffi never had to dance at the Champions Ball, not at her first in 1988, not later.
She danced on the court, though.
Never.mind Monica.Every body knows who you are and why.You are the number 1 in the world.Only Monica! I love her.So unique.We.will never have otrer player like her.Divine Monica.A real legend
And the Earth is flat and big foot lives in your backyard. No way no how.
@Rakesh Thapa really?
Das war die Rache für die Niederlage bei den French Open..
Monica the best🥀Forever🥀❤
Before this Wimbledon, the players at WTA gathered to complaint about Seles's grunt. The authority discussed with Seles and Seles did not grunt during this Wimbledon final. She was not allow to play her style, and was playing against not only Graf, but the women players, and the authority. She lost easily.
It's so unfair to her. There was no rules on grunting, yet the women silenced her and muted her game.
She is my favorite tennis player ❤
Classic, elegant, powerful and pretty. The best tennis player I have ever seen. Miss you Steffi !!!
I remember this game. Steffi was so great
30 years ago.....can't believe it
Steffi played truly immaculate tennis here, and was even surprising herself with how well she was playing and the shots she was producing. Monica was clearly flat and distracted which certainly didn’t help her cause. It was very much Steffi’s day while the opposite was true of Monica. Still some amazing rallies and shotmaking on both ends.
They got in Seles’ head that year. Can’t watch this.
Same. Lots of mental undermining. I don’t think she would have won that one though. Graf was playing at a surreal level this day. But Monica didn’t show up either. She came out very flat.
Agree. Horrible comments at 8.00
@@franj1 what comment? On her one-handed pass?
Yep…only watched the first game.
who did? I don't understand. Evert said she was very relaxed and was joking with Capriati right before the match
Watching this match again, I realize I had forgotten how little I missed Bud Collins' colour commentary.
I BECAME A TENNIES FAN AFTER SEEING SELES PLAY GRANDSLAM SCREAMING
You like your women screaming and grunting, right?
2 GRANDES JOUEUSES
Steffi without doubt had the best sexiest legs in professional sport - then and now. Perfect shape and length. Legendary champion.
Her nose is too big.
Monica's grunting was unprecedented in 1992, thus Martina Navratilova had every right to complain about it. Ironically, Steffi Graf never once issued a complaint, yet she has been vilified for Seles' loss. In addition, there was nothing in their previous grass court match up that would have suggested that Steffi was going to lose.
steffi even said she didnt care about the grunts cause she didnt hear them anyways hhhhhhhhh
@@rolandgreen7484 i'm not homeless
@@rolandgreen7484 Seles had that grunt since she was a child; just like she was double-handed. Restricting her grunt is like restricting her skills. Even if Graf wins the championship with Monica grunting, I doubt it would be so one-sided like this match. You're an imbecile and you know so little about psychology.
Chuckie Nestle said!!
When the Williams sisters introduced screaming and howling, the announcers were extremely annoyed and distracted, many players, too, but since they were black they let it go after a few complaints that went unsuccessful.
A strange match in many ways - it'd be interesting to hear both players speak about it now to see what they recall. Steffi playing brilliantly and really exploiting the slightly damp, low bouncing grass. Monica struggling to deal with the conditions and a bit flat. It's often forgotten now, but Monica seemed to have a match every few months when she wasn't at her best and was beaten easily in straight sets. In 1992 alone she lost to Capriati at the Lipton 6-2, 7-6 (double faulted on match point), lost to Sabatini 7-5, 6-4 in Rome, Graf 6-2, 6-1 and Wimbledon and then Navratilova 6-4, 6-2 in Los Angeles
That plus Seles at her best is still nothing on grass, especialy compared to people like prime Williams, prime Graf, prime Navratilova (not the 100 year old Navratilova eons past her prime she barely beat in the semis here, but the one of MANY years earlier). This was her only time past the quarterfinals of Wimbledon, there is a reason for that.
A match between Graf and Seles on grass is not dependent on how Seles, but on how Graf plays . Both at their best on a grass court, Graf will win straight sets everytime.
@@simonsenecal6560 i agree that grass favoured Steffi massively. I think how well Monica would have done would also depend on the weather, as grass courts can play very differently If the weather is hot and dry, the courts bake hard and play much more like a hard court. Monica may have had a better chance then.
Bud Collins speaks and shouts a little bit too early. He should have known all about Graf’s amazing speed by this time. A lot of shots from Seles will come back when playing Graf, and a lot of the time it will be a winner.
I’m sure Bud was just excited, nothing terribly negative.
Graf played such an astute match here. Didn't try to blast Seles off the ground, but moved her in ungainly positions, kept great depth off her forehand and was willing to move forward whenever possible. Plus she was as fleet footed as ever.
I like them both but think overall Graf is the superior player because she is able to adjust to other players style and will find a strategy to eventually come on top - Seles had the skill to send bullets with great angles and yet Graf destroyed her in this match. Seles has never destroyed Seles in their 15 meetings. 1990 to 1992 were years were even Sabatini won plenty matches against Steffi who was in freefall mentally with personal matters which
I feel truly affected her game. When she got out of it, her fierceness came back running. Without that freefall I think Seles would not hold 5 wins aginst her but at most 3. This has nothing to do with the stabbing and/or how things could have developed. Steffi's game was simply a better fit for finding solutions to win.
Seles destroyed Graf at French Open
You are so true
@@thebigmonstaandy6644u called 6-2,3-6 n 10-8 as destroyed?? What u call 6-2,6-1 then?? 😅
@@syaisa698 Seles won against Graf 60 62 at FO
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I still love you two Seles, Graf, how young I was back then maybe to young for you? Now I grew even younger! Is that alright. Reunion ❤😐🫢😄😍😇
Great Stefi and also great Monica !!!
Evert as usual shows how much she was jealous of graf.
"Steffi is playing the last few matches like she won the grand slam."
Chris Evert at 49:00. Sad we couldnt watch how this great rivalery would have emerged. It had just reached a first peak. When they met, it was like before high noon.
Seles numero 1 de ese momento, Graf la mejor en Wimbledon!!!
Two of the greatest Players of all Time. So I know - both are very good Friends. I think this is the most important Thing 👍🙂 I love the Play of Steffi - this Athletic, this Speed and light as a Feather. I think I would like this type of Playing, if I am not a German 😉
They were most def NOT friend.
Lol, they never where friends.
Sorry - my Fault - not were - they are Friends 👍
@@nanokiss1220 No, they are not friends. They respect each other but that’s it.
Steffi really using the grass to her advantage. Pulling Monica way out wide to her backhand with that sharp angled crosscourt forehand, and using her inside out forehand to batter Monica's forehand. The pace of the court robbing Monica of time in both cases. Steffi's slice also really exploiting Monica's relative weakness on low balls to her forehand. Grass really the perfect surface for Steffi to play Monica on.
❤❤❤❤❤Steffi!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is when Seles went inside herself because of the complaints against her. She just didn’t want to be there cuz she didn’t feel welcome. And now listen to the grunting the players do. I felt bed for Seles.
Nadal grunts.
Seles, Azarenka, Sabalenka scream. They were and are cheaters.