In his defense, thats how most people come to debates like this. The audience is always the viewers, not the opponent, which is neither good nor bad. You're right that he had weak arguments and did not want to engage in any questioning, just wanted to rattle off his talking points and "defend" them by stating his opponent couldn't see why it was bad. Which is, IMO, a totally fine strategy of his rhetoric. His views are weak so thats all hes got, thats a TOUGH viewpoint to defend. Vaush recognized that strategy, and so his strategy was primarily to ask questions and try to get his opponent to disengage and refuse to talk further, which makes him look weak and unable to defend his feelings. That isn't really debate either, but its a great strategy in this kind of debate.
You start looking the good Dr. up and discover he's the original TradCath - Antisemitism and warped religious fevour and all; if not upfront fascist, then certainly fascist-adjacent. His doctorate is in American history and literature and he did it in the 70ties, and pretty much all he has done since was write antisemitic junk.
When he said that I just remembered every single image I've ever seen of a Sentinelese islander and thought "if he ever finds out about their existence, his heart is going to give out."
Some people don’t want to get married, have kids, have sex at all, and/or aren’t attracted towards the opposite sex/gender. That is normal and natural. Not everyone ascribes to religion and that is fine.
The belief that human sexuality should be dogmatically limited to our most basic biological imperatives is bizarre & nonsensical. I genuinely feel bad for people who had the belief planted in their minds at a young age that human sexual expression outside of baby making in a heterosexual, marriage is somehow shameful & immoral what miserable, sexually unfulfilled lives these people often go on to lead.
I'm only 20 minutes in, but I wonder if the dude can make an actual argument. So far it was like this: "Pornography is bad" "Okay. Why?" "You can't understand that its bad, because it has corrupted you" "Can you make an argument why its bad?" "Yes. Its bad" "But why is it bad?" "You just can't understand that its bad, because it has corrupted you" and so on. I really hope there is an actual argument in this
Dude. I love how during his opening statement the guy vacillated wildly between a decent point and insanity. It’s like he began his journey with a reasonable concern then he accidentally peered into the abyss and lost his mind haha.
This was probably already addressed a year ago but no fap november was to draw attention to and raise money for prostate cancer prevention and treatment. Something masturbation helps prevent.
Vaush throughout the debate: respectfully and socratically exposes the opponent’s complete lack of arguments Vaush in the one minute closing before Q and A: utterly skewers him with absolutely savagery
Vaush was yelling at him that cavemen would worship Jews and that he'd beat him up with unga bunga stick because Dr. Jones referred to history too many times for Vaush to not let his brainwashed mind kick in. You're delusional if you think he was respectful
@@johnlonne7062 give me a break. Jones is one old, dry, ghoulish joke. He argued from a place of emotion. He's irrational. Never elaborated upon any of his points. Oh but he has a PhD! Fuck a doodle Doo.
@@johnlonne7062 he was fired for being an unreasonable jackass. His phd is a giant waste of money. Vaush sounds like he knows what he's talking about in this one sided "conversation" because he's a Sociology major he can back up his positions with empirical data.
I have never been religious and was raised in a very sex positive environment. I have never once in my life experienced post nut guilt. Seems to me like it’s related to conservative social pressure.
You never feel anything until right after you orgasm. You realize that you are alone, in a dark room with only your blinding screen illuminating your face, blinding you from morality. After the smoke has cleared, you finally question yourself.
So when Vwoosh asked what was transgressive in movies I immediately yelled out "women showing ankles"........ then this dude actually said it as an example. I immediately died laughing! Literally died. My spirit is writing this comment.
The only reason Vaush was interrupting was because that guy would ramble incoherently for 5 minutes and Vaush would reply in maybe 30 seconds. Make your point faster if you don't want to be interrupted
I remember when nnn was made as a joke. I remember nnn being about holding off to get the biggest nut come December. Never had shit to do with purity this or super powers that
@@grutsthefoodman3645 wrong. It's all about the superpowers bro. Two weeks and you literally are a motivated, ambitious, persistent, sex craved animal. That urge for sex is what gives the superpowers
He seems to think it’s recent also haha. And he also thinks people were inspired by him haha. I don’t get how his young audience doesn’t hear him talking about it and think “Hmm. I remember doing this just as a fun challenge in high school. This was not some revolutionary act.” But I guess bias reframed all.
The larger problem with that talking point is that the "guilt" associated with sex/masturbation is a guilt perpetuated and enforced by purity culture and religious fundamentalism rooted in misogyny. Like WOW, what a concept, kids that grew up being told their whole lives by the people they trusted most that Jesus was a peeping tom and didnt like it when they touched themselves experience guilt upon climax. SACRE BLEU! I was raised secular and taught that masturbation was a healthy part of maturing, and wouldn't you know it I've NEVER experience post climax guilt.
if someone told him they feel guilt after “normal sex with a married partner” he’d probably just say their mind has already been darkened beyond repair before getting married, like he’d bend it so it fits his beliefs. talking to people like this is such a waste of time
Like, yes, it's true you don't have to change your opponent's mind, but you have to convince your audience, and his insistence that his arguments' truth is self-evident tells me that he assumes that the majority of the audience is already on his side, which is _not_ the mindset you should have when going into a debate
That’s not debating. It’s vaush’s side to give counter arguments and then the audience decides who had the best arguments. Debate is to convince the observers, not each other.
@@BK-hq7tn maybe true for a public debate but usually convincing the oponent is the main goal. And its not like you can do both during public debates. Prpbably harder though.
@@davitdavid7165 I acknowledge there are differences between formal and online debate, and I'm not sure as to what those are, as they aren't formally listed in any kind of literature or anything. So, I still feel Vaush is engaging unethically and he should have countered with something. This tactic he is doing is taking advantage of an argument of ignorance. Or something along the lines of a "position of ignorance".
funnily enough, the avg lifespan of hunter gatherer societies havent been reached again till the 1900s, more humans = more foodneed = more animals = more crosscontamination = more disease...
@Anja X TV I wish we could go back to the time when I was still a concept in my grandads balls. Not even my dad's balls but two generations back. Smh why do conservatives want nothing more than to go back 100 years of social developments
@MrRexel14 same!! Conservatives absolutely despise freedom and autonomy. They want a world where the 'good ol boys club' is prevalent and where they can colonise what and whomever they want. It's disgusting. They want the LGBTQ in the closet, and for people of colour to have limited options in this world, and let's not get started on their opinions of women.
I don't know.. I think there might actually be something to this no fap thing. I was really unsatisfied with my sexual relationships with women, did 90 days no fap, realized towards the end it was because I just wanted to have sex with men 👍😎
Just want it to be known that the extent of this guy's "professorship" is that he taught American literature at a Catholic women's college for _one year,_ before being fired for his doggedly anti-abortion positions. I repeat: his anti-abortion position was so radical that he was fired from a _catholic women's college._ Then he chose to abandon academia and write an antisemitic magazine instead :)
Vaush: what about those films were transgressive? Professor no-fap: “they allowed the showing of ankles.” You’re about a century and a half late old man.
“It’s nearly impossible to talk to someone who’s irrational” the funniest possible statement to come out of this man’s mouth and he has zero awareness of the irony
When ideas have been inserted into your brain, without arguments or justification, from childhood, you cannot imagine that other people need (a) reason to accept those ideas.
@Gerardo God designed my body so the mere act of altering my the hormone ratio in my blood has allowed it to be feminized. My boobs and hips are proof that God loves me. 😇😇😇
Also this guy m@sturbates, 100% sure he does! I couldn't help but read stuff about the benefits of onanism and a prolonged life was amongst them. And since he's a 280 years old man...
This entire debate was this dude arrogantly crossing his arms and getting offended at the very idea that someone could disagree with him. This is like getting offended because you don't like McDonald's and you saw someone ordering it.
yeah im not really a fan of modern day debate, they claim to be neutral but it really feels like they coddle conservatives. i know it must be hard because conservatives are babies who will refuse to engage if they get the slightest pushback from a moderator, but after they refused to deal with people being transphobic to hannah reloaded i really started to dislike mdd
@@em-xj9hd you can't be neutral in left vs right debates, because any attempt will just favor the right, since the left generally has more data to back up the claims, while the right is often scrounging by with anecdotes and circular arguments
@@em-xj9hd what do you mean? Flat earth and bigfoot could be real. We just need to keep revisiting the evidence. Just asking questions. Both sides need to be heard.
Discussing morals is kind of like discussing favorite tv-shows. Kind of pointless, but media analysis can be very fun and so can be poking holes into what weird conservatives are saying.
As someone with a degree in film, it’s hard to listen to this guy (not Vaush, older gentlemen) . His understanding of film and its history is…. Inaccurate.. shall we say.
@@billyvalencia6758 Thank you! Finally someone else who acknowledges and appreciates the great Jewish contribution to global culture that is pornography!
Criticism of a people should t be construed as hate against the people, only against the perpetrators. If a person of colour hurts someone, and you are telling the police what you saw.. is it racist to tell them who that perpetrator is? What if the perpetrator was a white guy? It makes no difference. Calling out someone on their wrong doings isn’t hate speech, that’s a wall put up to hide crimes and you are falling for it.
The good doctor here also lost his teaching credentials because the university he was working at determined he was a moral absolutist. You can't argue with people like this because they just default to their absolutist position, and any argument against it is immoral corruption. People like this are lost, usually permanently. I imagine the only way to drag them out is some phenomenal life changing event.
Constant exposure and confrontation, that they willingly subject themselves too, can also do this I used to listen to the shows from atheist community of Austin and they had several repeat callers that were probably as far or father gone than the doc who over months of calling in and getting their world view challenged ended up changing obvs not all repeat callers and not all to the same extent but it does happen
"I imagine the only way to drag them out is some phenomenal life changing event." So, who's going to join me in the leftist shadow special ops team to spike Mr. Jones water with LSD while he's unawares? In Minecraft of course.
@@stoneagealienz874 Nah. I know sociopaths who have taken psychedelics and often times it just reinforces their delusions of grandeur. Some people just don’t have the capacity for true introspection.
58:02 this is where this “professor” guy started to scare me. In his “answer” he only talked about how sex is for marriage and people who are in “union” and didn’t even mention that r**e is not okay because it is NON consensual. It’s like he’s saying “it’s bad because the person assaulting them isn’t married to them”. That’s fucking scary…
Faith based politics, man. The thing is bad because I said god said the thing is bad, and if you question that you’re “darkened” and totally beyond saving.
I've seen a few other people say he lost his teaching credentials for being a "moral absolutist" which makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure how else one could interpret the "you don't already agree with me so I think you're unreasonable and cannot/should not be convinced of my extreme claims" thing in the beginning.
"Jesus committed transgressions back, people were angry" "Nooo People weren't angry at Jesus!" "They crucified him." "Yes the Jews were angry and crucified him!" Apparently Jews aren't people in that guys mind...
You lose so much credibility when you try to invoke the Bible in a non religious debate. There are definitely Christian's who are skilled enough to debate ethics without mentioning it once. The fact he has a PhD sucks because he becomes the "useful idiot" with credentials.
Yea it's just super inappropriate. I don't really care if people are religious (as long as they aren't being insane about it), but resorting to a religious explanation in a debate is basically a white flag: "I can't explain this, besides saying I think a deity makes what I said true".
I'm 80% sure he's doing it because his opponent seemingly bases his morality on his religion. I don't see anything wrong with arguing a position using your opponents moral principles.
@@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 no lefty ever said "white patterns of behavior" Not everybody is a self hating liberal who reads Robert Diangelo. Also her work has nothing to do what CRT actually is
So basically his argument is, if you do not agree with his statement that's a you problem he does not have to tackle that in the debate as your mind is too "darkened"
@@Kloutkulture Venturing a guess, he managed his American History PhD with the "right" kind of instructors and advisors and a deep, uncritical acceptance of American exceptionalism.
hes likely a creationist. if there was no evolution for us and we were just put here fully formed we probably wouldn't have gone walked naked, we were already "evolved" not to do that. even adam and eve at some point started to cover themselves up with leaves, so ig we would've been wearing clothes from the start.
@@BlisaBLisa Even if he's a creationist, though, Adam and Eve were walking around naked. That they stopped doing so is a pretty major plot point in their story. By his own standards he fails, even.
I think he has such a Catholic/Western Perspective of the world that he’s summed up all the world’s problems and immortality to godlessness. Why do you think abortion is such a hot button issue for these people?
I meet a lot of stem dudes who couldnt reason their way out of a paper bag and a lot of humanities people unable to to do long division. Smart at one thing doesnt mean smart at others
tbh graduating university is mostly about being able to work in an academic context, which mostly consists of quoting and correlating other academic works. Your own ideas don't need to be good as long as you can find other academic writers who wrote on the topic. A lot of this is about formalities and a general circle jerk with other people in your field, and if you can uphold the circle jerk correctly, you'll have no issues getting in.
@@markbaker4425 being super smart in one field often means your dumb at other things like lawyers and judges can’t do math which can be seen in there decisions
Exactly. For unmarried people, they should championship masturbation! It's like hating abortion but then turning around and also hating everything that prevents it: birth control, Plan B, condoms, safe sex ed, planned parenthood programs, etc.
Love how he claims that Vaush agreed with him that "people feel guilty after masturbating, but nobody feels guilt after heterosexual sex" when Vaush clearly said that some people do, and corrected him multiple times after. This man is only capable of one way communication.
People feel guilty both after masturbating and after hetero sex, and both are the product of negative Christian views on sexuality. These sex-negative views should be eradicated.
This wasn't a debate to mr nofap. To him it was just an opportunity to say what he believes to a large audience. That's why he didn't make an argument and spent the entire time laughing, doing exposition about the bible and history, and shilling his "books".
He went from saying "Man needs to submit sexual urges to reason and rationality. We are not like the Salmon driven only by animalistic urges" straight into "Sex is only for procreation and that's it!!!" I wish Vaush had grabbed onto that.
Yes, sex is for procreation. And we control when we do that. Salmon on the other hand do it because it is their instinct without regards of anything. Shows how much you don't know.
@@billyvalencia6758 That is not "jewish behavior". That is warcrimes committed by the state of Israel and the criminals in charge of the government at the time. Similar to how all the war crimes the US is doing all over the world are not "christian behaviour".
@@Miguel-q2c1b All people who believe their sky daddy is real, are dangerously wrong. Deluding yourself into thinking you are part of the chosen people is not uniquely jewish either. You are allowed to criticise everything to your hearts desire.
That’s a sufficient answer, because by definition it’s literally as isolated as a sexual act can get. I can’t fathom how someone would demand an explanation of something so simple. It’s like asking for proof a black bowling ball is black.
@@silent_shout No it is not, there has been very little if any evidence that when you masturbate reasonably and you aren't a p*rn (censoring cause of TH-cam's dumb rules) addict that it leads to you being more isolated from your friends and family or society, it's just a natural thing people do to relieve themselves, not to mention it's one of the safest ways to relieve yourself with no risk for std's or pregnancy, which is why Vaush was asking for evidence, of course if you overdo it it becomes an issue but you could say that for everything ever.
This wasn't a debate. This was a circus. Vaush was the ringmaster, and he brought out a clown for us to watch. The clown tripped over his clown shoes and fell face first into a custard pie, and we all laughed.
He's so offended at the thought of having to state and defend his position in a debate. That's like being offended that you have to turn the wheel in your car when you drive.
@@UndeniableAnglophile I very much got the "debate bro" vibes people criticise him for in this one. But this seems like a good time to act like that if ever there is one.
Yeah. He was aggressive, which you have to be with people like this. I mean, the sum total of all of this guy’s evidence was “NNN, Israel, and ankles!”
He has a built in 'I win everytime' with this crap about the people who disagree with him having a 'darkened mind' and when Vaush asks him for evidence he starts talking about 'spirituaity' as if that can be measured or 'rational' as he likes to put it.
I am not surprised. He claimed that the Protestants were the gatekeepers of mortality. He was too excited that the catholics had a "legion of decency", he is just a Christian Taliban. He is obsessed with r*pe and don't look at the greatest r*pe factories on this earth. The churches are f*cking heaven for predators. This dude would denail it for hauers. I think that's why they don't opened this cane of worms.
I'm writing a book with a religious fundamentalist in it and am totally stealing the "Can't comprehend with your darkened mind" stuff from this guy. Such a perfect line for an extremist nut bag.
This guy is the king of making baseless statements and then running away from even the lightest questioning of his statements. He ran so fast from the "Jesus was a contrarian" point it was basically like Scooby-Doo running from a zombie.
@entertain7us14 he answered it. Guilt. There is guilt in doing something wrong. It is a psychological toll. Masturbation feeds your sexual fantasies and look at the culture. You think it is healthy for a society that allows people to walk around half naked?
@@billyvalencia6758 "he answered it. Guilt. There is guilt in doing something wrong." Catholic guilt for doing something you've been told is wrong. Not a rational justification. There are branches of Christianity where basic stuff like pride and joy are frowned upon because one is supposed to be godfearing, thankful, and self flagellating one's whole life. "Masturbation feeds your sexual fantasies and look at the culture." You already have fantasies, mate. Repressing your sexuality is harmful. Check out the biography of basically every serial killer and sexual predator. "You think it is healthy for a society that allows people to walk around half naked?" Yes.
@Smaakjeks K "check out the biography of every sexual predator." Did you just kill your own argument? These sexual predators COULD NOT control their sexual needs. They did something animalistic, kill and raped, because they were not thinking rationally. They thought instinctively. Man is a creature that primarily is rational and can control their instincts. Clearly a sex addict cannot and these criminals are an example. "Yes" Really? Would you want kids seeing people's ass or showing the outline of their genitals? Come on.
i, a woman, have most definitely felt guilt after masturbating lol, its called being raised in an evangelical household. i also have that "drop" afterward, but typically experience it as an intense loneliness, or anguish, and shivering/shaking and crying, its a great time. but no that doesnt make masturbation bad lolol im sure nobody cares about this, but alas. probably nobody will see it anyway, so its fine
@@honest_126 oh yeah i’m sure i should, i’m in therapy but i haven’t talked about that because i still feel like it’s shameful even though i rationally know it isn’t. emotional damage lol. but thanks, i appreciate it. i am okay, just wanted to share my experience for anyone who might be able to relate or ppl who think it doesn’t happen to us
but he also doesnt use it because he says sexual urges should be submitted to reason and rationality so his entire argument is completely incoherent and self contradictory
I miss these conservatives. Like just... full on, dick out conservativism. No wishy washy ties to beliefs and vague suggestions of motives just Moral Majority Conservativism where if you aren't with us, you're corrupted.
Modern conservatives are so sleazy and dishonest. You can rarely pin them down. It’s refreshing to have a monster that’s so direct and straight forward about their insane beliefs.
5 minutes in and that guy is already wrong. Samson was blinded by lust because he was "thirsty" when Delilah came. If he took care of his needs before that, he would not be blinded by lust and would be able to pick other clues of her behaviour, which would suggest she was an enemy
It's incredibly amusing that he say "humans are not salmon that only follow their mating instincts (aka: only mate when their instincts tell its time to reproduce) then proceeds to argue that humans should act like salmon and only mate for reproduction
I’m about 15 minutes in and he’s said “you just wouldn’t be able to understand my argument” when challenged three times so far. This is headache inducing.
read between the lines: you don't realize that he hasn't had sex or touched himself for decades, and it's warped his brain you literally cannot understand his predicament
Wow another debate where Vaush gets interrupted constantly, but the person he's debating complains about being interrupted. I never would have thought this could happen again. I'm shocked. SHOCKED I SAY!.
idk why he's so up in arms about getting interrupted when if vaush didn't interrupt him or nobody reminded him he'd never stop talking. dude was already going off for 6+ minutes at the beginning talking about absolutely nothing. I genuinely think this guy is the worst at debating I've ever seen. vaush didn't even have to try to win this
@@butterysnail2537 he lost the moment he was literally unwilling to defend his positions, saying that Vaush’s mind was too “darkened” to understand him. Like he didn’t even TRY to justify his position, he just believes that there’s something wrong with you if you don’t accept it on face value.
I appreciate how charitable Vaush was to this guy lol. Vaush repeatedly gave the guy the chance to explain his position to Vaush, and he just couldn't do it. "Sorry bud, your mind is too darkened, can't explain it to you"
Vaush's ability to sit through that first 6 minute drive down delusion highway without laughing was the most impressive show of restraint I have ever seen from him.
The one gotcha Vaush missed was when jones asked why do people feel guilty after masturbating. The correct answer to that is because of people like him. It's conservative social conditioning. Jones is citing something created by his ideology as evidence that his ideology is correct.
That was my instant thought especially growing up in a conservative house as a gay boi. If you’re being repressed like that, of course you’ll feel guilty lmao
Yeah, this pissed me off. It’s the same as when they use the suicide rate as a reason not to accept trans people, when not being accepted is a major reason the suicide rate is high in the first place.
Dude didn't come to debate, he came to lecture. He's like the worst professor ever, not wanting to take questions since it derails his narrative.
Someone mentioned that he lost his credentials and was fired from the university for being abnoxious.
In his defense, thats how most people come to debates like this. The audience is always the viewers, not the opponent, which is neither good nor bad. You're right that he had weak arguments and did not want to engage in any questioning, just wanted to rattle off his talking points and "defend" them by stating his opponent couldn't see why it was bad. Which is, IMO, a totally fine strategy of his rhetoric. His views are weak so thats all hes got, thats a TOUGH viewpoint to defend.
Vaush recognized that strategy, and so his strategy was primarily to ask questions and try to get his opponent to disengage and refuse to talk further, which makes him look weak and unable to defend his feelings. That isn't really debate either, but its a great strategy in this kind of debate.
@@JARV9701 oh so he’s actually Mr. not Dr.
You start looking the good Dr. up and discover he's the original TradCath - Antisemitism and warped religious fevour and all; if not upfront fascist, then certainly fascist-adjacent. His doctorate is in American history and literature and he did it in the 70ties, and pretty much all he has done since was write antisemitic junk.
@@dakunssd I don’t get why antisemites are such cowards about their antisemitism. I believe everything I do with my whole chest because I’m right.
This guy gives off the “I got caught by mom as a kid and she sent me to Bible camp because of it, so now that’s everyone’s problem” vibes.
XDDDDD
-No Nut November-
Nonstop Nutting November
Naked women bad 🤣
He has something like 20 grandkids
100%
46:04 "Sexual liberation leads to bondage" when he’s right, he’s right
Broken clock...
HA
That's what i thought lol
One time I said “true” 🤣
I love bondage;)
"Sexual liberation leads to bondage"
Umm, yeah, sometimes
Lol
I mean many people do have an unhealthy obsession with sex. Like incels.
@@richardarriaga6271 I know I'm pretty late, but you missed the point, my friend.
when youre right youre right and hes right
I love that you can respond to his entire opening tirade with “sir this is a Wendy’s”
Imagine spending an hour refusing to explain your moral position, just to say "Yeah, I agree with Nazis."
Nazis and ISIS*
I love it when vaush drops a legitimate "why" or "how" question and it makes guys like this fumble.
its such a simple question and yet it stumps these kinds of ppl lol
The best is the confidence with which he says: “People never walked around naked.” Dude.
Not only are there still civilizations around the world where this occurs, but even within the USA there are literally cities that do this
When he said that I just remembered every single image I've ever seen of a Sentinelese islander and thought "if he ever finds out about their existence, his heart is going to give out."
at least hes not a young earth creationist then
I was thinking he must be a YEC to believe that, but he's NOT a YEC and he still believes that!? WTF? @@S.D.323
Some people don’t want to get married, have kids, have sex at all, and/or aren’t attracted towards the opposite sex/gender. That is normal and natural. Not everyone ascribes to religion and that is fine.
It cracks me up so hard whenever he says Vaush has a darkened mind and then chat spams DARKENED MIND. It just tickles me.
The belief that human sexuality should be dogmatically limited to our most basic biological imperatives is bizarre & nonsensical. I genuinely feel bad for people who had the belief planted in their minds at a young age that human sexual expression outside of baby making in a heterosexual, marriage is somehow shameful & immoral what miserable, sexually unfulfilled lives these people often go on to lead.
You can tell this guy has gone his entire life not being asked the words “why” or “how”
Honestly its hilarious how baffled he gets by suddenly being asked to justify his assertions.
Why does that plain bald girl have so much chest hair?
Depressingly common even among smart people
@@wdsftygt a dig at someones appearance while hidding behind an anonymous pfp lol
I'm only 20 minutes in, but I wonder if the dude can make an actual argument.
So far it was like this:
"Pornography is bad"
"Okay. Why?"
"You can't understand that its bad, because it has corrupted you"
"Can you make an argument why its bad?"
"Yes. Its bad"
"But why is it bad?"
"You just can't understand that its bad, because it has corrupted you"
and so on.
I really hope there is an actual argument in this
Dude. I love how during his opening statement the guy vacillated wildly between a decent point and insanity. It’s like he began his journey with a reasonable concern then he accidentally peered into the abyss and lost his mind haha.
He peeked at the abyss and saw Cthulhu
Kudos to the moderator, I wouldn't have been able to keep a straight face.
This was probably already addressed a year ago but no fap november was to draw attention to and raise money for prostate cancer prevention and treatment. Something masturbation helps prevent.
That was no shave november lmao
Vaush throughout the debate: respectfully and socratically exposes the opponent’s complete lack of arguments
Vaush in the one minute closing before Q and A: utterly skewers him with absolutely savagery
Vaush was yelling at him that cavemen would worship Jews and that he'd beat him up with unga bunga stick because Dr. Jones referred to history too many times for Vaush to not let his brainwashed mind kick in. You're delusional if you think he was respectful
Oh man I’m so excited to get there
I have no idea how Vaush kept a straight face. Every time "Dr" Jones said he had a darkened mind, I burst into laughter.
@@johnlonne7062 give me a break. Jones is one old, dry, ghoulish joke. He argued from a place of emotion. He's irrational. Never elaborated upon any of his points. Oh but he has a PhD! Fuck a doodle Doo.
@@johnlonne7062 he was fired for being an unreasonable jackass. His phd is a giant waste of money. Vaush sounds like he knows what he's talking about in this one sided "conversation" because he's a Sociology major he can back up his positions with empirical data.
I like how this guy both litterally and figuratively exists on this pitch black void of ignorance.
1:31:47 "Christ is frowning on you from his cloud" I burst out laughing, this has been such a train wreck of a debate but I am so happy it happened.
I have never been religious and was raised in a very sex positive environment. I have never once in my life experienced post nut guilt. Seems to me like it’s related to conservative social pressure.
Could be a sign of sociopathy.
Damn you right gotta go speak to a psychiatrist
Same
You never feel anything until right after you orgasm. You realize that you are alone, in a dark room with only your blinding screen illuminating your face, blinding you from morality. After the smoke has cleared, you finally question yourself.
@@sievert2008 so?
This dude is the definition of feelings over facts, and is a perfect case study demonstrating the Dunning and Kruger phenomena
@@johnlonne7062 that's the only thing he did.
So when Vwoosh asked what was transgressive in movies I immediately yelled out "women showing ankles"........ then this dude actually said it as an example. I immediately died laughing! Literally died. My spirit is writing this comment.
Yeah, women showing toes would be much more transgressive 😵💫.
RIP my dude.
Now, if I go out in public with my partner who has an ankle fetish....
"Oh how can I argue with MODERN research!" Well its actually very easy, just pretend its fake!
I wonder if the old guy has drowned in his own backed up fluids yet.
"Makes outrageous claim"
"Can you back that up?"
"........... That's sophomoric and immature"
The only reason Vaush was interrupting was because that guy would ramble incoherently for 5 minutes and Vaush would reply in maybe 30 seconds. Make your point faster if you don't want to be interrupted
It's amazing how someone can talk so much without actually saying anything.
"Masturbation and video games are isolating"
*Then there's me who's made good friends doing both...*
Ayo?!
What type of friends did you make masterbaiting gee ?
@@sidewinder9258 Friends with benefits
“sexual liberation leads to bondage” he’s more correct about that than he perhaps thinks you know
I said the same lol,
I was like hell yeah, perfect, I'm here for it.
Yes please
Noice indeed
Your desire is slavery ?
@@AveSequoia i hope he's pointing towards BDSM XD
"Pr0n is bad because pr0n is immoral because pr0n is bad" and that's essentially his argument in a nutshell
Legitimate "because reasons" take
Back in the 80's in the South he would have have considered a an expert above question and his word gospel.
“It’s a flickering image on a screen!” 😉 $10 says professor Nowank’s got some good shid in his databank.
Your "darkened mind" wouldnt understand
Speaking of nuts, not only is he one, he desperately needs to bust one. Prof No Fap has retained for so long he has drowned his brain in back up.
This dude really thought no nut November was when a group of intellectuals realized that slapping their shlong was wrong. This guy is insane.
Meanwhile it's really reddtors thinking their reaction speed or masculinity will enhance when they hold off for a week xD
I remember when nnn was made as a joke. I remember nnn being about holding off to get the biggest nut come December. Never had shit to do with purity this or super powers that
@@grutsthefoodman3645 wrong. It's all about the superpowers bro. Two weeks and you literally are a motivated, ambitious, persistent, sex craved animal. That urge for sex is what gives the superpowers
He seems to think it’s recent also haha. And he also thinks people were inspired by him haha. I don’t get how his young audience doesn’t hear him talking about it and think “Hmm. I remember doing this just as a fun challenge in high school. This was not some revolutionary act.” But I guess bias reframed all.
I guess no-shave november is proof that bare faces are unnatural and harmful.
"There is no guilt during normal sexual experience"
Yeah... I'm sure nobody ever felt guilt during "normal" sexual experience.
The larger problem with that talking point is that the "guilt" associated with sex/masturbation is a guilt perpetuated and enforced by purity culture and religious fundamentalism rooted in misogyny. Like WOW, what a concept, kids that grew up being told their whole lives by the people they trusted most that Jesus was a peeping tom and didnt like it when they touched themselves experience guilt upon climax. SACRE BLEU!
I was raised secular and taught that masturbation was a healthy part of maturing, and wouldn't you know it I've NEVER experience post climax guilt.
Remember: it's true if he says so. Reality is just silly putty. It can be molded into whatever he wants.
I can think of an example or ppl feeling guilty after "normal sex"
CHEATING
Especially when religious guilt is added.
if someone told him they feel guilt after “normal sex with a married partner” he’d probably just say their mind has already been darkened beyond repair before getting married, like he’d bend it so it fits his beliefs.
talking to people like this is such a waste of time
If this guy's arguments were any more circular he'd tie himself into a pretzel.
And if he is opposed to acab he would become a donut.
He broke my brain.
Thing is though ... I would actually enjoy a brezel :3
A circumcised pretzel 🥨 ✂️
The shape of his arguments is something like an infinity loop
"So it's my job to convince you?" Yes. Welcome to debating.
You're 800 years old and you don't know what a debate is? This dude is a CLOWN.
Like, yes, it's true you don't have to change your opponent's mind, but you have to convince your audience, and his insistence that his arguments' truth is self-evident tells me that he assumes that the majority of the audience is already on his side, which is _not_ the mindset you should have when going into a debate
That’s not debating. It’s vaush’s side to give counter arguments and then the audience decides who had the best arguments. Debate is to convince the observers, not each other.
@@BK-hq7tn maybe true for a public debate but usually convincing the oponent is the main goal. And its not like you can do both during public debates. Prpbably harder though.
@@davitdavid7165 I acknowledge there are differences between formal and online debate, and I'm not sure as to what those are, as they aren't formally listed in any kind of literature or anything. So, I still feel Vaush is engaging unethically and he should have countered with something. This tactic he is doing is taking advantage of an argument of ignorance. Or something along the lines of a "position of ignorance".
When vaush said “if we want to go back to natural processes, I’d be the young hunter/gatherer and you’d be dead cuz you’re twice my age” I died
Obviously you are not fit to w a hunter gatherer due to your death, get well soon!
funnily enough, the avg lifespan of hunter gatherer societies havent been reached again till the 1900s, more humans = more foodneed = more animals = more crosscontamination = more disease...
When he started talking about the 1920s I was like dude we don't need to hear about your childhood.
@Anja X TV I wish we could go back to the time when I was still a concept in my grandads balls. Not even my dad's balls but two generations back.
Smh why do conservatives want nothing more than to go back 100 years of social developments
@MrRexel14 same!! Conservatives absolutely despise freedom and autonomy. They want a world where the 'good ol boys club' is prevalent and where they can colonise what and whomever they want. It's disgusting. They want the LGBTQ in the closet, and for people of colour to have limited options in this world, and let's not get started on their opinions of women.
I don't know.. I think there might actually be something to this no fap thing. I was really unsatisfied with my sexual relationships with women, did 90 days no fap, realized towards the end it was because I just wanted to have sex with men 👍😎
based
Now that is something positive! Congrats!
Professor: "How disgusting. I would never gawk shamelessly at a woman's body like those immoral teenagers!"
Very gay Viewer: "Er, yeah, me neither..."
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
thats based af
Just want it to be known that the extent of this guy's "professorship" is that he taught American literature at a Catholic women's college for _one year,_ before being fired for his doggedly anti-abortion positions. I repeat: his anti-abortion position was so radical that he was fired from a _catholic women's college._ Then he chose to abandon academia and write an antisemitic magazine instead :)
That is.. A lot to take in...
@@BK-hq7tn Yeah, the comment literally says that.
What's a "radical" anti abortion stance? Did he say to kill all people who commit abortion?
Thank you so much for sharing this info. I had no clue who this nutball was.
@@willowtdog6449 I repeat. What is a "radical" anti abortion position?
Vaush: what about those films were transgressive?
Professor no-fap: “they allowed the showing of ankles.”
You’re about a century and a half late old man.
Somehow the ankle part was the funniest part of the debate, which certainly is a feat
I'll show myself out
"You're about a century and a half old, man"*
Also, the transgressive thing about those films is that Jewish people made them.
This old man's official name is Pr. No-fap from now on.
@@capcaptainmycaptain4771”you’re about a century and a half late, old man.”
God, I loved that new intro. If it's not too much of a strain on our dear editors, I'd love to see more one-off, topic specific title cards like this.
Same dude
I 2nd the motion
Truuuuue
It really was beautiful
The motion passes.
“It’s nearly impossible to talk to someone who’s irrational” the funniest possible statement to come out of this man’s mouth and he has zero awareness of the irony
I love how this guy seems offended and surprised by being asked to defend his statements
When ideas have been inserted into your brain, without arguments or justification, from childhood, you cannot imagine that other people need (a) reason to accept those ideas.
@Gerardo God designed my body so the mere act of altering my the hormone ratio in my blood has allowed it to be feminized. My boobs and hips are proof that God loves me. 😇😇😇
@Gerardo this doesn't exist dude stop getting off to your imaginary friend
Maybe because Vaush makes absolutely r tarded arguments like claiming that pornography leads to less rapes
@@lamwam5065 source?
most of the debate interactions in a nutshell
"it's bad"
"why?"
"heh, really? Then you're too stupid, you wouldn't get it."
Also this guy m@sturbates, 100% sure he does! I couldn't help but read stuff about the benefits of onanism and a prolonged life was amongst them. And since he's a 280 years old man...
Guy sounds a pre-socratic aristocrat/priest. XD
This entire debate was this dude arrogantly crossing his arms and getting offended at the very idea that someone could disagree with him. This is like getting offended because you don't like McDonald's and you saw someone ordering it.
D A R K E N E D M I N D
@@Cheyruz D A R K E N E D P A N T S
"We were never Naked"...Looks around nervously at thousands of years of naked bodies in sculpture, pottery, mosaics, painting, etc..
venus statues go brr
When this guy brought up "No Nut November" as a serious way to prove his point, both chats just died laughing.
yeah im not really a fan of modern day debate, they claim to be neutral but it really feels like they coddle conservatives. i know it must be hard because conservatives are babies who will refuse to engage if they get the slightest pushback from a moderator, but after they refused to deal with people being transphobic to hannah reloaded i really started to dislike mdd
@@em-xj9hd you can't be neutral in left vs right debates, because any attempt will just favor the right, since the left generally has more data to back up the claims, while the right is often scrounging by with anecdotes and circular arguments
@@em-xj9hd what do you mean? Flat earth and bigfoot could be real. We just need to keep revisiting the evidence. Just asking questions. Both sides need to be heard.
@@nicholassheavils209 Yes lets revisit the evidence that has been disproved time and time again.
And not know about Dead Dick December. But I guess that's every month because it always feels like Christmas.
Ghoul: "Masturbation is immoral."
Vaush: "Why?"
Ghoul: *critical psychic damage*
Ghoul: "It just is."
"It's obvious!" Hahaha
He’s a ghoul because he doesn’t want your girl Dutch face at himself?
Discussing morals is kind of like discussing favorite tv-shows. Kind of pointless, but media analysis can be very fun and so can be poking holes into what weird conservatives are saying.
He does look like a ghoul tho lmao
@@noneofyourbusiness3288 really? i think that discussing morality is one of the most important philosophical undertakings conceivable.
I agree with the professor.
Yes, sexual liberation can indeed lead to bondage, and that sounds like an excellent thing to me!
Personally thats why i Like it so much
yup, shits great 👍
@@z4ruga479 you like bondage?
@@Dannyboy0202 are you kinkshaming rn?
@@davitdavid7165 Is bondage not slavery?
I can't wait to use "sorry boss, my mind was darkened by pornography" as an excuse for why I didn't get stuff done.
Your boss probably gon be like “we’ve all been there kid”
As someone with a degree in film, it’s hard to listen to this guy (not Vaush, older gentlemen) . His understanding of film and its history is…. Inaccurate.. shall we say.
Didnt expect to see you here, mate.
@@tejashdasgupta1840 I’m a person of differing tastes
@@LoreReloaded Covering star trek one minute, watching a debate with an insane anti Semite the next.
Honestly I think most people don’t know Hollywood history
yea did not expect this crossover episode
I’m not shocked that this guy thinks Jews are responsible for pornography but I AM surprised at how openly he’s willing to admit it.
Yeah kinda stunned me.
Lmaooo read Triple Exthnics by Nathan Abrams. A Jewish professor. And then come back, buffoon.
@@billyvalencia6758 *no*
@@billyvalencia6758 Thank you! Finally someone else who acknowledges and appreciates the great Jewish contribution to global culture that is pornography!
@@billyvalencia6758 nah
This dude can’t go 5 minutes without saying something antisemitic, it’s almost impressive
Lol
I like how he prefaces it by saying people accuse him of antisemitism and then does it anyway
@@h4724-q6j" yeh people call me a racist" *5 minutes later* you see the problem with ni"
there does seem to be a theme there
Criticism of a people should t be construed as hate against the people, only against the perpetrators.
If a person of colour hurts someone, and you are telling the police what you saw.. is it racist to tell them who that perpetrator is?
What if the perpetrator was a white guy?
It makes no difference. Calling out someone on their wrong doings isn’t hate speech, that’s a wall put up to hide crimes and you are falling for it.
It was tricky, but I managed 2 faps listening to this debate.
I wasn't the hero you asked for...
But the hero we deserved
Weak. I got in 6.
@moralkombat66 but iv been practicing in the 10 months since, young grasshopper.
👀 how do you know what we asked for?
They came when we needed them most 🙏
The good doctor here also lost his teaching credentials because the university he was working at determined he was a moral absolutist. You can't argue with people like this because they just default to their absolutist position, and any argument against it is immoral corruption.
People like this are lost, usually permanently. I imagine the only way to drag them out is some phenomenal life changing event.
I doubt it, even if faced with the strongest of experieces he would just torn reality in his head to fit inside his own reality.
Constant exposure and confrontation, that they willingly subject themselves too, can also do this I used to listen to the shows from atheist community of Austin and they had several repeat callers that were probably as far or father gone than the doc who over months of calling in and getting their world view challenged ended up changing obvs not all repeat callers and not all to the same extent but it does happen
"I imagine the only way to drag them out is some phenomenal life changing event." So, who's going to join me in the leftist shadow special ops team to spike Mr. Jones water with LSD while he's unawares? In Minecraft of course.
@@stoneagealienz874 Nah. I know sociopaths who have taken psychedelics and often times it just reinforces their delusions of grandeur. Some people just don’t have the capacity for true introspection.
@@stoneagealienz874 lol ok Joe. Why not have him try DMT too?😂
Imagine an actual university professor citing "no fap november" as evidence lmao
Well he was fired a long time ago.
and that's not even the correct name lmao
Imagine a university that actually taught things instead of indoctrinating young people into a cult with brainwashing and degenerate acts
I had to pause the video and check the comments when he said that, holy shit.
@@Purifactor I assume you've never been to a university?
58:02 this is where this “professor” guy started to scare me. In his “answer” he only talked about how sex is for marriage and people who are in “union” and didn’t even mention that r**e is not okay because it is NON consensual. It’s like he’s saying “it’s bad because the person assaulting them isn’t married to them”. That’s fucking scary…
Yes. His complete disregard than women are factors in any of this and his shocking statement that r*pe is less evil than masturbation floored me.
Conservatism is abhorrent.
He's a Christian fascist, so that is definitely what he actually believes.
Yeah, I think it's very likely he believes in the Biblical proverb that states r@pe victims must marry their r@pists (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
There’s no way this guy doesn’t realize he has to explain himself. How does he think he can just rattle shit off and it’s to be accepted
Because he's a Reich wing Christian fascist. The very fact he says it is the justification in his little peanut brain.
Faith based politics, man. The thing is bad because I said god said the thing is bad, and if you question that you’re “darkened” and totally beyond saving.
I've seen a few other people say he lost his teaching credentials for being a "moral absolutist" which makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure how else one could interpret the "you don't already agree with me so I think you're unreasonable and cannot/should not be convinced of my extreme claims" thing in the beginning.
@@Kropothead Im not religious and he's correct lmao
Because to those with "darkened" minds, his methods are beyond your comprehension~ [but like in a spooky voice]
"I'm not against pornography because of some religious reason" cites the bible on multiple occasions
"Jesus committed transgressions back, people were angry"
"Nooo People weren't angry at Jesus!"
"They crucified him."
"Yes the Jews were angry and crucified him!"
Apparently Jews aren't people in that guys mind...
breaking: antisemetic lunatic is infact antisemetic, millions distraught
You lose so much credibility when you try to invoke the Bible in a non religious debate. There are definitely Christian's who are skilled enough to debate ethics without mentioning it once. The fact he has a PhD sucks because he becomes the "useful idiot" with credentials.
Yea it's just super inappropriate. I don't really care if people are religious (as long as they aren't being insane about it), but resorting to a religious explanation in a debate is basically a white flag: "I can't explain this, besides saying I think a deity makes what I said true".
I'm 80% sure he's doing it because his opponent seemingly bases his morality on his religion. I don't see anything wrong with arguing a position using your opponents moral principles.
Him having a PhD really does prove that that level of higher education is pretty worthless a lot of the time.
His PhD was supposedly in American History, so he isn’t authoritative on this subject anyway
@@luciferkotsutempchannel OP's comment was talking about the professor, not Vaush.
"your mind is so darkened you can't understand a rational argument"
*Proceeds to ramble incoherently*
Rational thought requires you to be irrational, you see
@@Kaanfight wow, i must be way to rational because that never occured to me. Thank you Dr Jones!
I imagined him talking in fnf while reading this
Don't you see, he's the only rational human left. All our brains have been darkened by the pornography. We are the monkeys.
@@MrSicdaniel i'm sorry, i had to repress my reflexive monka instict to throw feces at you for your incredibly rational observation
I was chuckling throughout all of this, but when he said "sexual liberation leads to bondage" I almost fell off my chair.
RIGHT ON BROTHER!
Can we just pretend i made the "heated mass debate" joke... k....tnx.
Also "having babies is the end of human sexuality"
TECHNICALLY TRUE dude
Not in the way he thinks but yes.
I mean... if you're doing it right it does!
@@eremiasranwolf3513 whoa I didn't know they let people on the internet who have never heard of a joke before
"you can't discuss jewish-behaviour anymore" is the wildest "i'm not an anti-semite, but" turn around i've heard so far in my life;
@@johnlonne7062 Nukes are too imprecise tbh, we gonna fuck up Gaza AGAIN and they've suffered enough
@@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 no lefty ever said "white patterns of behavior"
Not everybody is a self hating liberal who reads Robert Diangelo. Also her work has nothing to do what CRT actually is
What the fuck is Jewish behaviour?
They should have really sent him over the edge and posted a pic of Sarah Silverman in the shower. lol
@@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 what is CRT
So basically his argument is, if you do not agree with his statement that's a you problem he does not have to tackle that in the debate as your mind is too "darkened"
How is he a Dr?
@@Kloutkulture Ben Carson is a doctor. Doesn't mean anything outside of their field
@@joe94c Yea but Ben has plausible deniability lol. We don’t know if he’s really as dumb as he pretends or if he just keeps up the act for the grift.
Answered your own question, didn’t you?
@@Kloutkulture Venturing a guess, he managed his American History PhD with the "right" kind of instructors and advisors and a deep, uncritical acceptance of American exceptionalism.
"People never walked around naked"
There is no way he's this unintelligent and uninformed.
Bad faith for sure.
hes likely a creationist. if there was no evolution for us and we were just put here fully formed we probably wouldn't have gone walked naked, we were already "evolved" not to do that. even adam and eve at some point started to cover themselves up with leaves, so ig we would've been wearing clothes from the start.
@@BlisaBLisa Even if he's a creationist, though, Adam and Eve were walking around naked. That they stopped doing so is a pretty major plot point in their story.
By his own standards he fails, even.
I think he has such a Catholic/Western Perspective of the world that he’s summed up all the world’s problems and immortality to godlessness. Why do you think abortion is such a hot button issue for these people?
"Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity."
-someone, I don't remember
Especially from a Christian who believes that the bible is literal...Adam and eve are literally said to be naked until after original sin.
Now I’m not calling him a Nazi (I’m calling him a Nazi) but it’s kinda suspicious how he has such a fixation on Jewish people.
Holy shit I better get into a PhD program. If this guy can be a professor and graduate with a doctorate, then I'll be so upset if I don't.
Looks like they are handing them shits out like Halloween candy
I meet a lot of stem dudes who couldnt reason their way out of a paper bag and a lot of humanities people unable to to do long division.
Smart at one thing doesnt mean smart at others
@@markbaker4425 ...but apparently this guy published on this topic
tbh graduating university is mostly about being able to work in an academic context, which mostly consists of quoting and correlating other academic works.
Your own ideas don't need to be good as long as you can find other academic writers who wrote on the topic.
A lot of this is about formalities and a general circle jerk with other people in your field, and if you can uphold the circle jerk correctly, you'll have no issues getting in.
@@markbaker4425 being super smart in one field often means your dumb at other things like lawyers and judges can’t do math which can be seen in there decisions
Conservatives: Don’t have sex unless it’s for procreation
Normal person: I’ll just do it by myself for now
Conservatives: No
Exactly. For unmarried people, they should championship masturbation!
It's like hating abortion but then turning around and also hating everything that prevents it: birth control, Plan B, condoms, safe sex ed, planned parenthood programs, etc.
So are conservatives ok with asexuals then, or is that also not ok?
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 The only choices are abstinence or just having it.
@@Tacklepig no, silly that's also unnatural /j
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 no it’s all immoral
Love how he claims that Vaush agreed with him that "people feel guilty after masturbating, but nobody feels guilt after heterosexual sex" when Vaush clearly said that some people do, and corrected him multiple times after.
This man is only capable of one way communication.
"people feel guilty after masturbating..."
If you've got the fear of God in you, sure. That's the source of the problem. God is a judgemental prick.
People feel guilty both after masturbating and after hetero sex, and both are the product of negative Christian views on sexuality. These sex-negative views should be eradicated.
@@carmensavu5122
(Robotic psycho voice)
Those sex-negative views should be *Exterminated* .. *EXTERMINATE!* *EXTERMINATE!!* (Lazers going pewpew)
This wasn't a debate to mr nofap. To him it was just an opportunity to say what he believes to a large audience.
That's why he didn't make an argument and spent the entire time laughing, doing exposition about the bible and history, and shilling his "books".
@@carmensavu5122 your religion will fail
He went from saying "Man needs to submit sexual urges to reason and rationality. We are not like the Salmon driven only by animalistic urges" straight into "Sex is only for procreation and that's it!!!" I wish Vaush had grabbed onto that.
I know right? Same thought on that!
To be fair, there was a lot of bullshit coming from this guy, so I don't blame him for missing it.
Yes, sex is for procreation. And we control when we do that. Salmon on the other hand do it because it is their instinct without regards of anything. Shows how much you don't know.
@@billyvalencia6758 dude I grew up Catholic I've heard it all before
@@billyvalencia6758 your reading comprehension isnt very great, is it? lmao
“They use anti-Semitic as an excuse for Jewish behaviors…” good god does this professor hear himself?
Probably not
Well, they do. The Zionist scream antisemitism when the Palestinians try to defend themselves
@@billyvalencia6758 That is not "jewish behavior". That is warcrimes committed by the state of Israel and the criminals in charge of the government at the time.
Similar to how all the war crimes the US is doing all over the world are not "christian behaviour".
@@Miguel-q2c1b All people who believe their sky daddy is real, are dangerously wrong.
Deluding yourself into thinking you are part of the chosen people is not uniquely jewish either.
You are allowed to criticise everything to your hearts desire.
@@Miguel-q2c1b criticize that stance from an atheist perspective. Using any other abrahamic perspective would be cringe
Professor: watching pornography and masturbation leads to isolation
Vaush: ok, how?
Professor: cause it does
Your darkened mind wont understand it anyways
professor: I just have all this evidence. just all the EVIDENCE
vaush: such as?
professor: uhhhhh SOO MUCH!
vaush: SUCH AS????
source: i say so
That’s a sufficient answer, because by definition it’s literally as isolated as a sexual act can get. I can’t fathom how someone would demand an explanation of something so simple. It’s like asking for proof a black bowling ball is black.
@@silent_shout No it is not, there has been very little if any evidence that when you masturbate reasonably and you aren't a p*rn (censoring cause of TH-cam's dumb rules) addict that it leads to you being more isolated from your friends and family or society, it's just a natural thing people do to relieve themselves, not to mention it's one of the safest ways to relieve yourself with no risk for std's or pregnancy, which is why Vaush was asking for evidence, of course if you overdo it it becomes an issue but you could say that for everything ever.
This wasn't a debate. This was a circus. Vaush was the ringmaster, and he brought out a clown for us to watch. The clown tripped over his clown shoes and fell face first into a custard pie, and we all laughed.
And it was hilarious.
I feel bad for the custard pie....
Clowns are entertainers though, they just play roles. This guy on the other hand, he's for real.
@@NIHIL_EGO And that's less funny.
But Voosh, I AM PALIACCI
He's so offended at the thought of having to state and defend his position in a debate. That's like being offended that you have to turn the wheel in your car when you drive.
To be fair, Vaush was very aggressive and dismissive of the guy from his opening statement. To be even more fair, that's about what he deserves.
@@UndeniableAnglophile I very much got the "debate bro" vibes people criticise him for in this one. But this seems like a good time to act like that if ever there is one.
Yeah. He was aggressive, which you have to be with people like this. I mean, the sum total of all of this guy’s evidence was “NNN, Israel, and ankles!”
"You mean I have to press the gas pedal? Preposterous!"
He has a built in 'I win everytime' with this crap about the people who disagree with him having a 'darkened mind' and when Vaush asks him for evidence he starts talking about 'spirituaity' as if that can be measured or 'rational' as he likes to put it.
So he is a Dr. and can't advocate for his position and argue for it... Cmon man
Obviously not a Doctorate of sexual phycology as one would need to be to even be taken half seriously making those claims
@@rowbot5555 Never mind that, how about the fact that he doesn't know the difference between empirical and anecdotal evidence.
@@matthewarnold4557 needless to say, science illiteracy is a serious problem
Doctorates mean fuck all if this is the bar.
What is he even a doctor of? It’s the same vibes as “the IT guy says climate change isn’t real”.
Absolutely stunned at the state of this lad unironically saying it's obscene for a girl/woman to show ankles
It is in the presence of those who have a foot fetish!
I am a hell of a Jezebel, then. I like sundresses.
He unironically popped a boner every time a girl in school showed shoulders
@@wet-read 😂😂😂
I am not surprised. He claimed that the Protestants were the gatekeepers of mortality. He was too excited that the catholics had a "legion of decency", he is just a Christian Taliban.
He is obsessed with r*pe and don't look at the greatest r*pe factories on this earth. The churches are f*cking heaven for predators. This dude would denail it for hauers. I think that's why they don't opened this cane of worms.
Me: Noncompete was the worst debater to go against for a good while.
This guy: Hold my Bible
If I could like this comment 192 times I would.
Normally I would agree, but even this guy seems like he has enough self respect to not lay in the mud for his wife's predatory propaganda channel.
At least this guy didn't rage quit
@@Gloomdrake Probably because he likely doesn’t know where the Close Call button is and his grandson didn’t stay to help him.
@@JeepnHeel I get the vibe that he wouldn’t have allowed his wife to voice political opinions in public.
I'm writing a book with a religious fundamentalist in it and am totally stealing the "Can't comprehend with your darkened mind" stuff from this guy. Such a perfect line for an extremist nut bag.
"I'm writing a book with a religious fundamentalist" why bro?
@@prettyokandy230 I mean, he'd be the bad guy
@@prettyokandy230 He presumably meant a fundie *character,* not co-author.
@@prettyokandy230 Like the religious fundamentalist is a character in it
@@anthonymontague756 ah ok, does make more sense that way! i was worried for your well-being there for a second.
Why does every conservative/religious person's argument always devolve into the jews are bad or the blacks are bad?
Come on, that's really reductive. There's also " the gays are bad".
@@Aadrian7 o forgot about that
“P0rn is harmful”
“Source?”
“NoFap”
Ummmmm okay. Is my mind too darkened to understand or... 😐
Ah yes, the guys that claim they go supersayan after not choking the chicken for a month.
@@MsMoonDragoon is that how you do it?
watching C-Span has made me hateful towards politicians
we need to censor the News so i don't start murdering people in the White House
@@davitdavid7165 "Power comes in response to a need, not a desire." --Goku
@@ananousous i was talking about how you could interpret that the norm is "choking" and not stroking, but that was good
This guy is the king of making baseless statements and then running away from even the lightest questioning of his statements. He ran so fast from the "Jesus was a contrarian" point it was basically like Scooby-Doo running from a zombie.
why are you asking me all these ridiculous questions like 'how' and 'why' ??!!!!!!
@@entertain7us148 lol accurate
@entertain7us14 he answered it. Guilt. There is guilt in doing something wrong. It is a psychological toll. Masturbation feeds your sexual fantasies and look at the culture. You think it is healthy for a society that allows people to walk around half naked?
@@billyvalencia6758 "he answered it. Guilt. There is guilt in doing something wrong."
Catholic guilt for doing something you've been told is wrong. Not a rational justification. There are branches of Christianity where basic stuff like pride and joy are frowned upon because one is supposed to be godfearing, thankful, and self flagellating one's whole life.
"Masturbation feeds your sexual fantasies and look at the culture."
You already have fantasies, mate. Repressing your sexuality is harmful. Check out the biography of basically every serial killer and sexual predator.
"You think it is healthy for a society that allows people to walk around half naked?"
Yes.
@Smaakjeks K "check out the biography of every sexual predator."
Did you just kill your own argument? These sexual predators COULD NOT control their sexual needs. They did something animalistic, kill and raped, because they were not thinking rationally. They thought instinctively. Man is a creature that primarily is rational and can control their instincts. Clearly a sex addict cannot and these criminals are an example.
"Yes"
Really? Would you want kids seeing people's ass or showing the outline of their genitals? Come on.
Nudity is evil. That's why I close my eyes when I look at religious art.
I just look with my heart.
and my penis.
i, a woman, have most definitely felt guilt after masturbating lol, its called being raised in an evangelical household. i also have that "drop" afterward, but typically experience it as an intense loneliness, or anguish, and shivering/shaking and crying, its a great time. but no that doesnt make masturbation bad lolol
im sure nobody cares about this, but alas. probably nobody will see it anyway, so its fine
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Sounds kinda like something you'd talk to someone about. I dunno really though, just hope you're aight.
@@honest_126 oh yeah i’m sure i should, i’m in therapy but i haven’t talked about that because i still feel like it’s shameful even though i rationally know it isn’t. emotional damage lol. but thanks, i appreciate it. i am okay, just wanted to share my experience for anyone who might be able to relate or ppl who think it doesn’t happen to us
Doctor says he’s rational but uses the “Appeal To Nature” fallacy for the basis of his entire argument
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but he also doesnt use it because he says sexual urges should be submitted to reason and rationality so his entire argument is completely incoherent and self contradictory
Did cavemen beat their john all day long instead of finding a mate (aka human instinct?)
At same time he doesn't, because in true nature we wouldn't be wearing clothes. Wed all be naked. He's a doublethinker
Informal fallacies aren’t real
I miss these conservatives.
Like just... full on, dick out conservativism. No wishy washy ties to beliefs and vague suggestions of motives just Moral Majority Conservativism where if you aren't with us, you're corrupted.
It is refreshingly plain, isn’t it?
Modern conservatives are so sleazy and dishonest. You can rarely pin them down. It’s refreshing to have a monster that’s so direct and straight forward about their insane beliefs.
Yeah the trying to claim that actually they're the real progressives and the left is actually racist/regressive has become a tired trope
5 minutes in and that guy is already wrong. Samson was blinded by lust because he was "thirsty" when Delilah came. If he took care of his needs before that, he would not be blinded by lust and would be able to pick other clues of her behaviour, which would suggest she was an enemy
All Samson needed was post nut clarity smh
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This guy is crazy anti-semitic.
Post nut clarity
It's incredibly amusing that he say "humans are not salmon that only follow their mating instincts (aka: only mate when their instincts tell its time to reproduce) then proceeds to argue that humans should act like salmon and only mate for reproduction
I’m about 15 minutes in and he’s said “you just wouldn’t be able to understand my argument” when challenged three times so far. This is headache inducing.
I mean he's right, it just doesn't mean what he thinks it does.
@@nathanjasper512 lol, ain’t that the truth. How does he think it’s a good idea to point out that his own argument is incoherent?
read between the lines:
you don't realize that he hasn't had sex or touched himself for decades, and it's warped his brain
you literally cannot understand his predicament
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 he is on his way to become a wizard
@@CPSPD
he's a wizard of Coping
leave him some dignity and do not take his Cope away
this debate was over after 5 minutes, fastest debate in internet history
That's what she said.
This is what happens when you don't do endurance stuff
@@duncanapisdorf The Dr had deemed you immoral and somehow Jewish.
@@THEJPR how... how did he know?!?!!!!!+
You would say that because you have a darkened mind! 😆
Wow another debate where Vaush gets interrupted constantly, but the person he's debating complains about being interrupted. I never would have thought this could happen again. I'm shocked. SHOCKED I SAY!.
idk why he's so up in arms about getting interrupted when if vaush didn't interrupt him or nobody reminded him he'd never stop talking. dude was already going off for 6+ minutes at the beginning talking about absolutely nothing. I genuinely think this guy is the worst at debating I've ever seen. vaush didn't even have to try to win this
Typical boomer behavior
P R O J E C T I O N .
@@butterysnail2537 he lost the moment he was literally unwilling to defend his positions, saying that Vaush’s mind was too “darkened” to understand him. Like he didn’t even TRY to justify his position, he just believes that there’s something wrong with you if you don’t accept it on face value.
"You can go online and see tits", is literally the the funniest shit ever and also a very accurate depiction of the internet.
Professor “No people never walked around naked.”
Ada and Eve “…”
ada and eve best lesbian couple
you're only supposed to pretend to believe in the bible when you agree with christians, you see…
I appreciate how charitable Vaush was to this guy lol. Vaush repeatedly gave the guy the chance to explain his position to Vaush, and he just couldn't do it.
"Sorry bud, your mind is too darkened, can't explain it to you"
i love right wing nutjobs. - LOL
That professor looks like he's being controlled by a necromancer☠️
I am 85% sure this man is the husk of an 18th century vampire or other such creature. Would explain him categorizing “show ankle” as obscene
Oblivion NPC generic necromancer, he just forgot his Necromancer robes and Summon Zombie spell
Lmao
I laughed too hard at this. Thank you
Bowling pin ass head
“Im not anti-Semitic….. but that word gets in the way of calling out actual Jewish behaviour.”….
Wow.
Vaush's ability to sit through that first 6 minute drive down delusion highway without laughing was the most impressive show of restraint I have ever seen from him.
The slight smirks at the camera every once in awhile were everything, until the end when he finally broke with a full smile!
That history isn't a delusion
Someone : buys a film camera
This dude : he's stealing our technology! He must be Jewish as well
Still lasted longer than I did 😔
Yeah, the random Jewish rant was cringe af.
Boomer mad he caught his wife getting fucked by her boyfriend
Also the first film technology was either French or American around 1894-1895
His greatest debate ever. Only 20min in and I'm naked due to his arguments. Amazing
Your mind has been darkened!!!!!!!!
@@xenotiic8356 to the extreme
A sailor? Why am I not surprised 👀
@@xenotiic8356 why is a dark mind bad? Lol
“Your mind has been darkened” sounds like a status effect in some surreal indie game like Cruelty Squad.
We get desensitized to tons of things. theres a giant orb in the sky you can't make eye contact with but you never question that
I've tried to make eye contact with it but sadly it doesn't seem to have eyes :(
@@rowbot5555😭😭😭but i want to have a yellow friend in the sky!
This was Arch-Boomer behavior, painful to watch. Peak "I'm old and deserve to lecture you about baseless bullshit and expect you to take it" energy.
The one gotcha Vaush missed was when jones asked why do people feel guilty after masturbating. The correct answer to that is because of people like him. It's conservative social conditioning. Jones is citing something created by his ideology as evidence that his ideology is correct.
That was my instant thought especially growing up in a conservative house as a gay boi.
If you’re being repressed like that, of course you’ll feel guilty lmao
he probably would've just said that helped his point. "proof that god is disappointed" or some incoherent shit
Yup, I grew up outside of the dogma, and I'm never guilty after lmfao
Yeah, this pissed me off. It’s the same as when they use the suicide rate as a reason not to accept trans people, when not being accepted is a major reason the suicide rate is high in the first place.
I yelled that at the screen as soon as he asked the question!