For anyone who doesn't know agoraphobia is Fear of places and situations that might cause panic, helplessness, or embarrassment. Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder.
It looks like Eclipse doesn't fully realize how he came to be. Eclipse thinks it was just by Sun and Moon separating, but in reality it was Moon leaving the kill code in Sun. They could still separate them while leaving the kill code on Moon and not having an Eclipse.
I've noticed, lovingly, that most Suns (and moons tbh) seem to have control issues and obsessive compulsions, but this Sun seems worse than og sun. Like eclipse said, og sun had never locked the light switch or stopped nap time even when it hurt him to let moon out.
Imagine if this happens if they get separated: Sunshine: ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLI- Eclipse: what. Sunshine: me and moon made a show :3 Eclipse: ARE YOU SERIOUS-
Man, I thought puppet would be better at this, but like...its odd how she and Eclipse are both actually being fairly considerate of Moon's feelings but trampling on Sun's. He's *afraid* of things, and he's clearly not sure how to deal with that. I feel like pushing him consistently outside of his comfort zone isn't going to help. Someone needs to build a proper rapport with him, get him to confront his fear in a way he feels comfortable with, and find a way to get it through to him that Moon also matters and it's not fair to keep him in so much.
Yes this puts into words what I’ve been thinking, attacking Sun and yelling at him will get nowhere because you are making yourself an antagonist to him, if you put yourself on his level and try to listen and understand you can have a proper conversation and get him to figure out that he is in the wrong right now but there is a way to fix it😌
@@gamingkat1419 I mean, it *is* going to take a long time to do that, Sun is clearly unwilling to talk just because someone is listening...they both tried asking him about Moon and he refused to admit he knew what they were talking about. And its going to be detrimental to Moon, the amount of time it would take to get Sun to actually trust and open up. I think getting them talking to each other is probably the best short term step, and then working on the getting Sun to be comfortable enough to see reason.
I do agree that the way eclipse and puppet are going on this is not good for Sun mentally. I also think his detaste for moon is going to be a problem too. If he’s so against even the thought of Moon, it’s going to make this healing process very difficult. “You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped.” Getting them to talk is probably best. I think Sun is seeing this as HIS body and not their body. Maybe seeing and talking with moon will make him more understanding to the situation be is keeping Moon under
@@mark_jayden3206 Hopefully putting a face to the name helps him see Moon as a person, and not just this dangerous thing that takes over his body and has questionable desires...Moon at this point has openly admitted to having homicidal tendencies and genuinely does not seem to consider that a problem, so some of Sun's fear is warranted...all he knows of Moon is fear and pain and the understanding that this force wants to kill people. Maybe getting to talk and seeing that Moon isn't malicious, just stuck with an unfortunate bit of code and a lack of understanding, will help him to see Moon as some *body* instead of some *thing* , and that will help him move past the fear and start treating Moon fairly. Then the next thing to work on is teaching Moon that killing is in fact bad.
I agree with Puppet that Sun is acting like a child. He’s refusing to share and being very mean to poor Moon. I hope the gang can help these two coexist peacefully.
i feel sorry for both sun and moon i hope they can be separated at some point that way both can be somewhat happy or that they can at least talk to each other.
In this dimension it seems like moon I kinder then sun. despite the killcode and saying he hated sun. he still did everything in his power to help sun not feel pain. He also agrees that both sun and him should have equal time out.
Sun is now traumatized here this early. At least he can leave the daycare but doesn't want to leave. You guys should get Frank to separate Sun and Moon. He seperated the Bloodmoon twins, he can probably do it with this AU Sun and Moon? Or you guys can separate Sun and Moon, but keep the killcode in Moon. But, to smooth it or keep it under control, you can kill inmates that are on death row? *Yes, I got that from the alternate universe where nothing everything what we saw happened.*
@jestinaweems3296 kill code eventually developed into his own person, but he started as just some murder code and is assumedly still that in this dimension.
I do feel bad for Sun, he's incredibly distressed but it's only gonna get worse if he keeps trying to lock Moon away. I hope they find a way for them to at least talk
You know, a sun just out right hating a moon, seems very familiar, especially one smart enough to figure out how to rig the lights I wonder if this is how dark sun originated
i wonder if he will sing as sun this Christmas or maybe that was a one time thing. if he did sing a Christmas song at least just a bit of the song i wonder what song he would sing
In my opinion, everybody is being too hard on Sun. I get they are trying to help but they aren’t going about it in a way that help Sun learn to share with Moon and overcome his fears. Shoving him out of his comfort zone over and over isn’t going to work, it’s just going to make Sun have a panic attack. Pretty sure Sun is agoraphobic, and a pretty intense case of it too. And since changing at first felt like pain to him and he still doesn’t fully believe it’s gone, he likely associates it with a stressful situation and is therefore afraid of it, having a phobia when intense enough makes you want to avoid the phobia by any means necessary. this is like forcing an arachnophobic person to pet a spider. It’s just not going to help. We should get Earth to stop by and give Sun a therapy session, since he would probably respond more positively to someone more gentle like Earth. I think Earth would be disappointed in Eclipse and Puppet. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
I think you're partly right. I don't think the way Eclipse handled it was good, but i think Puppet actually handled it quite well. Sun needs to be pushed a little or he'll NEVER get out of his comfort zone. Puppet followed through each time she promised him something and gave him rational reasons that leaving was OKAY and he WOULDNT have any problems. She also didn't shove him anywhere either, she just had him do simple tasks. She also asked questions about Moon tried to calmly reason with facts on why he should share.
I agree that the earth should come over and help. Sadly, because the creator isn't going to be making any more robots since he's dead in this one I feel it's better if he had a more gentle approach rather than ....this.
@@CosmicCloud403 Fair point! Though I still hope Earth can maybe pay a visit, probably under some excuse like “Oh I’m visiting from a different location!” because I’m pretty sure explaining to Sun that dimensional travel is real would probably make his head explode. Also I’m pretty sure everyone is just being hard on everyone else here, puppet is being too pushy with Eclipse, Eclipse is being too hard on Sun, Sun is being too hard on Moon, everybody needs a mindset adjustment.
@@Kyran_Mai I actually think being pushy with Eclipse might be helpful too in the long run.(Although granted, Puppet probably shouldn’t have BINDED him to a channel for life.😅😅) But anyway, Eclipse is traumatized and no one’s ever reached a hand out to him, before Earth. What people don’t understand about Earth though is that in a way, she was ALSO pushy. She was pushy in her kindness. What Eclipse said to her didn’t affect her because she was able to slow down and acknowledge that Eclipse MIGHT want to change. Puppet is a different kind of pushy. She IS in a way a little pushy with kindness, but she’s pushy with the idea of not only GIVING Eclipse a friend who can help him, but ALSO a friend who can hang out with him. Not that Earth didn’t help him or enjoy his company, she’s but she help all the time and at the moment she has her own issues. Puppet wants to help him, she WANTS to help him get over the trauma that’s been so greatly rooted in him for so long. Eclipse is being hard on Sun because of his own trauma, which ain’t good, but at least we get WHY. He’s been Moon at some point and doesn’t want the same thing to happen here… or just doesn’t want someone else to suffer his and Moons pain, honestly it’s a gamble when it’s Eclipse and it comes to his hatred of Moon.😅😅 On Sun being too hard on Moon, I’m not sure if him being hard on him is what this is, as to be hard on someone you have to be setting standards, Moon was never given a CHANCE. Sun just hates him… it makes me wonder if what Dark Sun said is true to some extent… do all Suns REALLY have some part of them that hates their brother? I mean, for many it CAN be justified, but sometimes like now… idk, it’s just something to think about- Sorry for the long comment, I like theorizing.😅😅😅 Have a cookie for your trouble!🥰🍪
dang I feel bad for feeling myself lose patience with Sunshine but he's not being fair ;w; Hopefully getting him and Moonlight a way to talk might steer things in the right direction
it's ok I'm sure a lot of people felt the same way you did. also i feel sorry for both sun and moon and do you think if earth was in this dimension that she could have found/find a way to calm sunny down.
Other Moon gonna be depressed as Hell if he was still conscious when Other Sun was out. Geez, the torture to not be able to do anything, like being in a coma. :(
@@em2souls Yeah. But the problem is that once Other Moon’s Kill Code activates, it can cause problems. Being unfairly surpressed for so long, that dark code would figure out how to ruin Sun’s life.
Ngl, I don't know how to feel about this Sun. I do really like Sun as a character in most AU's, and the smallest part of me finds his behavior cute like some of the other fans. However I feel like this Sun can easily be set up as some form of a villain if he's this closed minded about everything. Because at this point he's not listening to any logic. People can barely understand anything he says because he's constantly screaming and stuttering when upset and it is difficult and frustrating to hold a conversation with him. It's frustrating to me watching people try and have a serious conversation with him. I do think starting out with letting Sun and Moon talk to each other is a good idea because it seems like Sun doesn't see Moon as a person. Based on how Sun handles speaking with Moon, it will show what kind of a person he is. (I do find it odd that Sun and Moon can't already speak to each other in their head because it has been said many times in SAMS that they could.) This perspective on Sun and Moon's situation is slightly confusing to me because in SAMS and overall FNAF lore, Moon was always the worse one when they were stuck together. Moon caused Sun pain, Moon killed kids, blah blah blah. In SAMS, Moon has showed remorse and regret about his previous actions while in Sun's body and despite the fact that he struggled to move and be his own person because Sun was in the way of that, he still felt bad for Sun. In SAMS it was always about how they were both stuck in a bad situation and they couldn't truly blame each other for any of it. But if SAMS Sun was this bad when he was stuck with Moon, I don't know how much pity Sun deserves. Because this Sun shows no sympathy or empathy for Moon at all, someone just as stuck as him. I do realize that it has been mentioned that SAMS Sun and Moon eventually came to an agreement to just go by the lights and not try to constantly fight for control, so maybe this is all just because the virus in Moon hasn't fully kicked in yet and the two have only been stuck in this situation for a few weeks. Maybe SAMS Sun and Moon did act like this way back when. As much as I want to be on Sun's side, I can't agree with his closed mindedness against someone who has actively tried to make things better for him. For someone who is considered the 'nice one', he sure doesn't have a lot of empathy for someone who is being nice to him. I don't even know if all of that was coherent, but I have no one to talk to... My thoughts on this get more complex than what I've said, but no one wants to read a college essay of my opinion. Edit: I just realized that the key differences between this dimension and SAMS is that 1: Sun and Moon couldn't talk to each other. 2: Moon wasn't immediately affected by his killcode, or at least only first spoke to Sun when it was in effect. A SAMS episode from a bit over a year ago was about when SAMS Sun and Moon first met. SAMS Moon immediately despised Sun and wanted to "make his life a living hell". SAMS Moon was incredibly aggressive and bitter, which gave SAMS Sun a good reason to try and keep him trapped. Maybe that episode is what would've happened to EAPS Sun and Moon if Eclipse and Puppet didn't interfere. Maybe this had all happened before in SAMS, but SAMS Sun and Moon figured out how to speak to each other by themselves. But by that point, Moon's killcode had gotten to him.
It's a similar universe, not the exact same. This Sun is not the exact same as SAMS Sun, so they are going to have their differences, some of which have already been shown such as the fact this Moon felt pain just like Sun unlike SAMS Moon who didn't (he struggled to move but it wasn't pain)
I love your view of this. All good points. I'm really enjoying dissecting these characters, and this Sun is.... hard to tolerate. The sams sun seemed to give everyone a second chance, (often a third). This one is giving NO ONE a chance. Moon, Puppet, or Eclipse even when he's being offered help. We all know dark sun is a thing, we all know not all Sun's are sweet and dopey. It makes me so curious...
@@TaylorTaylor-uj6rn Yeah... I think it's just so weird to me to see Sun in such a negative light, so I'm trying explain to myself the differences between the two universes. I'm so used to Sun being the one in the right when it comes to him and Moon being stuck together, but seeing Sun's perspective and how he handles it in this universe is something I can't get behind. I do understand Sun's perspective. In this universe he can't talk to Moon. To Sun, Moon is only someone that wrenches away his free will and (used) to cause him pain. But at the same time, Sun doesn't see Moon's perspective at all. It may be difficult to understand someone when you can't talk to them, but anytime someone tries to explain anything, he doesn't listen. I don't know. I'm thinking too hard about this. The issue is as complex and tangled as Sun and Moon's brain when stuck together.
@@Murakilok I think it’s more complicated than that. Also the original moon was worse and treated sun awful and I didn’t hear anybody calling him out for it at the time.
@@Murakilok i personally wanna think that this sun is like, paranoid. i do wanna feel some kind of sympathy for sunshine, cause like, I don't think forcing then to like, do things against their will is like, healthy for sunshine at all, puppet and eclipse are not exactly good people either. even puppet herself full on states that she is a bad person-
You can’t blame him he’s been in the daycare his entire existence and has also been told he would get electrocuted if he ever left, now there are new people he has never met before that have turned off the light made him do stuff he didn’t want to and then locked him out of the daycare which is practically his safe place as he said and also what puppet said
Imagine Sun is gonna turn into the antagonist in this au (maybe not intentionally, that's why I said antagonist not villain) (Also btw the idea came from someone else on a post I made by the person @Rejectgamer473)
Tbh I have VERY mixed feelings for this Sun. He is very scared of Moon,but at the same time he doesn’t like Moon?.. He has very right to be scared,but Moon is also someone too! It hurts me to see sun so sad and upset 😭
i don't hate this sun i feel sorry for him and moon i hope they both can be separated at some point does anyone think that would make both sun and moon happy that they could both have their own bodies.
I feel bad for this sun because he’s been in the daycare his entire existence and has also been told he would get electrocuted if he ever left, now there are new people he has never met before that have turned off the light made him do stuff he didn’t want to and then locked him out of the daycare which is practically his safe place as he said and also what puppet said
No not really. This dimension isn’t exactly the same from our dimension. In the flashback episodes it was implied Sun did try being fair with Moon about it. So EAPS Sun ≠ SAMS Sun
Aww Sun is scared :( Sun is so paranoid XD Wow Sun calling Moon disgusting and ugly that is just rude. At least he's slowly getting better with shadows.
I'll say it again--- I really wish that Eclipse could see the dimension where he was never 'left behind'. Where Moon never left his killcode behind and Moon instead takes his kill code out on deathrow inmates. I really want Puppet to show Eclipse that dimension. On another note, if this world has an 'Eclipse' through separation, will it mess with Eclipse's dimensional code, or did he alter his code enough.
2:18 "My name is Puppet and-" I'm here to say I'm gonna kick your ass in a major way. What are you doing? Get outta here... Get outta here!! ((I love Game Grumps lol))
BRO I THOUGHT SUN WAS USING LIKE A SLIDE WHISTLE OR SOMETHING FOR A SECOND...but it was his squealing XD (8:14) but hey sun made improvement, a step forward, good job sun 🎨✨
Sun seems like a bit of a control freak, or am I reading that wrong? I feel bad for Moon aswell, just having to stay suck in there. Also trying his best not to move while he was out so he wouldn't hurt Sun that much while Sun would move alot.
Y’all ever just hear Sun make noises that can only be described as “Sun noises”… like there is no way to describe that… only he makes those weird sounds man 😂 Edit: Omg he sounds like dog I’m dying…
Why does Eclipse keep talking like SaMS Moon was nice and thoughtful to Sun at first like EaPS Moon is? We had a whole flashback to their very first day alive last year, from Moon’s POV, for the exact moment Sun found out Moon existed, and Moon was very clearly was violent and aggressive and downright cruel to Sun right off the bat?
0:17 I’m sorry, this Sun is just too cute!! He’s just hiding in the little house, that’s adorable idk why 😭 2:02 The silly XD 3:19 False light 😭 4:47 He’s too silly, HELP- XD 6:09 OMG THE LITTLE NOISE HE DID 6:58 HES SO GOOFY Is this Sun actually ok? 😭 8:13 WHAT WAS THAT NOISE, IT SOUNDED LIKE A SPACESHIP XD (Ok nvm, that’s actually adorable. HES SQUEAKING) 11:31 😭 16:53 Clipsy! :D
2:03 *activate beat boxing mode* 2:07 i litterally just said that! 7:04 he sounds like a toddler 😭 7:19 screaming goat 11:33 pretty positive hes faking 22:50 was that a hiccup or a voice crack? 23:24 last episode linee 23:28 i couldnt understand what Clipsey said here someone tell me
I swear to god this Sun is just keep getting louder and louder in his panics about the darkness and turning into Moon. Dude is just screaming his little head off- he is just not having none of the darkness and shadows. Puppet's theory of Sun being a Agoraphobic honestly makes sense, wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. But the fact they could get another 'Eclipse' whether Sun and Moon Merge.. or if they Separate, it's something that could either go well or bad. More so bad for the separation. Guess We'll find out what'll happen though in the future. The joke of Eclipse calling Puppet a Cow has me cackling, get the feeling that's gonna be the way they just 'bond' with each other, by making fun of one another. It's honestly funny.
WHO DARES TO QUESTION MY BABY?!?..oh okey it's Puppet :3 00:39 WHAT'S WRONG SUNNY😭 05:57 I LOVE SUN SM😭😭😭💕💕 THE SCREAM HELP 06:45 Puppet knows how to deal with ppl tagt has HIGH ANXIETY LMFAOO 08:17 MY BABY NOOOO😭😭💔💔💔 16:38 WE BOTH ARE AGORAPHOBIC!!....oh...
if only they had earth in this dimension I'm sure she could have found a way to calm sunny down unfortunately they don't have earth in this dimension. do you think puppet and sun will become friends at some point. also i know earth can and won't ever be created in this dimension i just wish they had her or someone like her in this dimension.
i wish we could hug him he deserves a hug and someone to talk to so it's nice to see puppet talking to sun maybe at some point they can/will be friends
7:17 SUN HOOTING AND HOLLERING IS SO FUN also, I just want to point out that sun needs a little bit extra care when it comes down to the situation him and moon are in. I feel like a lot of the characters are pushing him really quickly out of his comfort zone like in this episode when it’s clear that he’s still very heavily programmed to be just a daycare attendant animatronic and not having his own personality like SAMS sun all he’s ever known is the daycare and all he’s ever known is when he changes into moon it hurts like hell it’s like when you are little you learn that after you put a mug in a microwave and you heat it up that the outside of the mug is hot and burns because it hurts but when you get a microwave safe mug that doesn’t heat up on the outside, you’re very hesitant to grab the mug regularly and not with a cloth or from the handle because you’re used to it burning that's how sun is his mind has been conditioned to live like that and it’s going to take a lot to decondition him from those things. It’s going to take a long time for him to realize that it no longer hurts to change into moon that nothing bad will happen if he leaves the daycare, but he also needs to be taught when he moved around before yesterday‘s episode when the pain receptors were turned off, it would hurt moon but the reason he didn’t know those things was because he wasn’t the one inside the body 24/7 he was the one out most of the time, therefore he didn’t experience the pain moon felt and moon stayed still because he knows that pain not because he likes sun and he didn’t want to cause him pain, but for the fact that he knows sun doesn’t know any better now that’s not to defend him sun 100% is in the wrong for keeping moon inside all the time with the worry of moon hurting somebody and he should give moon more of the benefit of the doubt I think both of them eventually need to find some way to have a conversation with each other because it’s clear that moon has built-up resentment that he 100% has the right to feel and sun needs to learn and hear from moon that moon isn’t that bad of a person that sun thinks he is I think what they need to do is have SAMS sun and moon talk to this universes sun and moon
It's eye opening to see what this looks like to someone else. This isn't going to change how afraid I am of certain unnamed people, places, and things, but at least I know how insane I look before I have a full-blown panic attack over them.
.....oooooooh I think I get why Eclipse is nervous about separating them or combining them. There can only be one Eclipse with the same demensional code, in a demension at a time. That can cause some problems for him there... Also, side note..... this Sun is SO hard to get a reading on. Initially I just found him overly obnoxious and a hypocrite, but the Agoraphobia theory is a very interesting one. But i feel like there's more to it than that. The excessive stuttering and VERY extreme over-the-top reactions makes me think about Ruin. How good of an actor he was to make everyone think he was crazy the whole time.... to be fair, it could be genuine. But ever since that Ruin reveal, I know Davis can be VERY crafty with his characters.... I'm intrigued 🧐
The end where Eclipse says that both ways will still end up with an eclipse makes me think a bit. Maybe Eclipse doesn’t want another him to be made because he doesn’t want that one to end up like himself, feeling abandoned and betrayed. He clearly doesn’t want either of them to suffer, mainly moon. When he yelled at Sun about keeping Moon locked away, was he upset and discontent with the possibility of Moon being just like him, angry and vengeful? He seems to care. In his own way, he cares about others more now than he did before. I think that it was mostly Earth’s doing that made him start to care, and I’m glad that someone was able to help him, even if he doesn’t want to admit it.
I give Puppet credit. She's very smart to trick Sun with the barrels and stuff. And I've never heard of agoraphobia before, but that's interesting. I think you might need Earth's help with this.
Puppet, i know exposure therapy is a thing but i dont think this is how you do it. Mans is clearly terrified. Justified or not phobias and anxietys cant just be swept away like this. Yes this Suns not being very considerate of his Moons feelings and life but traumatizing him more isnt going to help that. I wonder if our Sun would have an idea of how to help this one? Presumably he used to be like this himself.
They want this guy looking after children? He is a child himself! Sun is frustrating and annoying... but as someone with anxiety from a young age he is sadly relatable to me (sigh). I feel bad for him. Guy could use therapy (and maybe a patient parental/ older sibling figure, but not Eclipse hes not the guy for this). Eclipse seems to see another of him forming to be inevitable. But it might not be! And even if it does happen, you might end up with someone more like Solar if you play your cards right.
0:31 GASP FLASHBACK!: Lunar and his do-not-disturb-barrel! 1:00 Omg how his head popped out, so cute! 7:16 If anyone is walking by and sees this, they will turn around and go "Nope!" Yeah Sun and Moon need to talk.
My psychology side: He's having a traumatic response. the other side of me: This Sun is annoying. My Psychology side: I mean he does have right and with the emotions and all that he can't think clearly right now... The other side: That doesn't give him a reason... Psychology side: It's doesn't but you have to understand- Other side: I know we are the same person, can we at least agree he is acting like an annoying child. Psychology side: Yeah, you have a point there...
Is Sunny okay? 0:26 oh 3:55 he doesn’t want to go outside :( 5:12 Sun’s being unfair 5:47 like I said 7:54 15:25 the bridge has a shadow lol 16:00 ITS 5:01 FOR ME
i feel sorry for both sun and moon and if only they had earth in this dimension I'm sure she could have found a way to calm sunny down unfortunately they don't have earth in this dimension.
i wish we could hug him and i hope puppet and sunny will become friends they both deserve to have lots of friends. also I'm calling this sun (sunny) as from now on I'm getting tired of typing/saying this sun so i am now calling him sunny and i think it is cute to call him that
Eclipse was created by Moon leaving his killcode in Sun, but Moon still had the killcode develop in himself again. So, if they just separated the two and didn't remove his kc, he really shouldn't be that different than how Moon was in the beginning. It's still a problem, but it's less of a problem than if they had another Eclipse AND Moon's kc. Also, I wish they could have our Moon contact Sven for them, maybe he could help with the problem altogether.
I hope that Eclipse will at least help Sun a little when the new Eclipse appears in Sun... or it can give the new Eclipse a suggestion about what it can and shouldn't do.Unfortunately, it probably won't help because, as we know Eclipse, he certainly won't come up with the idea of listening to the Eclipse who has experience. Instead, he always wants to do his own thing and not take any kindness from anyone
I wonder if they'll ever have their Sun talk to this Sun? I have a feeling he wouldn't tolerate his shenanigans, but also be able to empathic with him. Still if this Sun CHOOSES to continue acting and thinking this way, he won't change... Also, as an introvert, setting Puppet ignore everyone's "no" and not give them time when he thinks it's for their good is uncomfortable.😅
The noises that Sun apperantly can make:
Keetle noise
Stutter-Beatboxing
Choking
Unhinged screaming.
And ofc, nervous laugh.
For anyone who doesn't know agoraphobia is Fear of places and situations that might cause panic, helplessness, or embarrassment. Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder.
..is that what sun has?
@@Sky-vt9cu probably this version of him
@@Frog_spawn47 do you think therapy could help him
Honestly it's not Sun if he doesn't have anxiety (Original Sun just has anxiety is general lmao)
@@moonrizer-qb5do Some what but it would take a while.
Sun: *steps out the daycare for 5 seconds*
Also Sun: *immediately has a panic attack*
Sun: *Appears in an episode.*
Also Sun: *Breaks my eardrums for the 100th+ time*
Sun: *cute*
Also sun: *ball of trauma*
OMG ❤❤
does anyone else think that he needs therapy
@@moonrizer-qb5dohe had therapy 4 times already
Sun is the type of guy who would get scared by his own shadow
Yup lol
It looks like Eclipse doesn't fully realize how he came to be. Eclipse thinks it was just by Sun and Moon separating, but in reality it was Moon leaving the kill code in Sun. They could still separate them while leaving the kill code on Moon and not having an Eclipse.
I've noticed, lovingly, that most Suns (and moons tbh) seem to have control issues and obsessive compulsions, but this Sun seems worse than og sun. Like eclipse said, og sun had never locked the light switch or stopped nap time even when it hurt him to let moon out.
Okay, but even without the pain Moon still has the urge to kill kids. It would make sense for Sun to be fearful of that.
I don't think Sun knows about that yet, though
Imagine if this happens if they get separated:
Sunshine: ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLIPSE ECLI-
Eclipse: what.
Sunshine: me and moon made a show :3
Eclipse: ARE YOU SERIOUS-
Ngl, that would be really funny
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Man, I thought puppet would be better at this, but like...its odd how she and Eclipse are both actually being fairly considerate of Moon's feelings but trampling on Sun's. He's *afraid* of things, and he's clearly not sure how to deal with that. I feel like pushing him consistently outside of his comfort zone isn't going to help. Someone needs to build a proper rapport with him, get him to confront his fear in a way he feels comfortable with, and find a way to get it through to him that Moon also matters and it's not fair to keep him in so much.
Yes this puts into words what I’ve been thinking, attacking Sun and yelling at him will get nowhere because you are making yourself an antagonist to him, if you put yourself on his level and try to listen and understand you can have a proper conversation and get him to figure out that he is in the wrong right now but there is a way to fix it😌
@@gamingkat1419 I mean, it *is* going to take a long time to do that, Sun is clearly unwilling to talk just because someone is listening...they both tried asking him about Moon and he refused to admit he knew what they were talking about. And its going to be detrimental to Moon, the amount of time it would take to get Sun to actually trust and open up. I think getting them talking to each other is probably the best short term step, and then working on the getting Sun to be comfortable enough to see reason.
I do agree that the way eclipse and puppet are going on this is not good for Sun mentally. I also think his detaste for moon is going to be a problem too. If he’s so against even the thought of Moon, it’s going to make this healing process very difficult. “You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped.” Getting them to talk is probably best. I think Sun is seeing this as HIS body and not their body. Maybe seeing and talking with moon will make him more understanding to the situation be is keeping Moon under
They should get earth to help
@@mark_jayden3206 Hopefully putting a face to the name helps him see Moon as a person, and not just this dangerous thing that takes over his body and has questionable desires...Moon at this point has openly admitted to having homicidal tendencies and genuinely does not seem to consider that a problem, so some of Sun's fear is warranted...all he knows of Moon is fear and pain and the understanding that this force wants to kill people. Maybe getting to talk and seeing that Moon isn't malicious, just stuck with an unfortunate bit of code and a lack of understanding, will help him to see Moon as some *body* instead of some *thing* , and that will help him move past the fear and start treating Moon fairly.
Then the next thing to work on is teaching Moon that killing is in fact bad.
I agree with Puppet that Sun is acting like a child. He’s refusing to share and being very mean to poor Moon. I hope the gang can help these two coexist peacefully.
i feel sorry for both sun and moon i hope they can be separated at some point that way both can be somewhat happy or that they can at least talk to each other.
Yea i also agree whenever moon is out he tries his best to not cause sunny any pain while sun is just hogging over control :(
Sun: *screeches as loud as he can*
yeah so loud that it hurts my ears XD
In this dimension it seems like moon I kinder then sun. despite the killcode and saying he hated sun. he still did everything in his power to help sun not feel pain. He also agrees that both sun and him should have equal time out.
7:26 😂his random screaming I love it, 8:19 deflated balloon sounds, why is he so scared of moon, he really he acting like a kid
Sun is now traumatized here this early. At least he can leave the daycare but doesn't want to leave.
You guys should get Frank to separate Sun and Moon. He seperated the Bloodmoon twins, he can probably do it with this AU Sun and Moon?
Or you guys can separate Sun and Moon, but keep the killcode in Moon. But, to smooth it or keep it under control, you can kill inmates that are on death row? *Yes, I got that from the alternate universe where nothing everything what we saw happened.*
Why not separate kill code too since he is his own person
@jestinaweems3296 kill code eventually developed into his own person, but he started as just some murder code and is assumedly still that in this dimension.
@@jestinaweems3296 kill code only became a person after but he started as a code that was apart of moon
Sun is my favorite
I do feel bad for Sun, he's incredibly distressed but it's only gonna get worse if he keeps trying to lock Moon away. I hope they find a way for them to at least talk
You know, a sun just out right hating a moon, seems very familiar, especially one smart enough to figure out how to rig the lights
I wonder if this is how dark sun originated
Good theory i wonder if this sun will actually turn out to be evil that would be interesting
I’ve been thinking that too ngl
7:00 - I feel bad for Eclipse in the threater, having to hear Sun's screams ;-;
Sun whens therse a little shadow: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh It's daRk HeE willlllllll ComE out.
Moon: a bit bright buts it's fine.
Davis probably had fun screaming
i wonder if he will sing as sun this Christmas or maybe that was a one time thing.
if he did sing a Christmas song at least just a bit of the song i wonder what song he would sing
In my opinion, everybody is being too hard on Sun. I get they are trying to help but they aren’t going about it in a way that help Sun learn to share with Moon and overcome his fears. Shoving him out of his comfort zone over and over isn’t going to work, it’s just going to make Sun have a panic attack.
Pretty sure Sun is agoraphobic, and a pretty intense case of it too. And since changing at first felt like pain to him and he still doesn’t fully believe it’s gone, he likely associates it with a stressful situation and is therefore afraid of it, having a phobia when intense enough makes you want to avoid the phobia by any means necessary. this is like forcing an arachnophobic person to pet a spider. It’s just not going to help. We should get Earth to stop by and give Sun a therapy session, since he would probably respond more positively to someone more gentle like Earth. I think Earth would be disappointed in Eclipse and Puppet. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Yes
I think you're partly right. I don't think the way Eclipse handled it was good, but i think Puppet actually handled it quite well. Sun needs to be pushed a little or he'll NEVER get out of his comfort zone. Puppet followed through each time she promised him something and gave him rational reasons that leaving was OKAY and he WOULDNT have any problems. She also didn't shove him anywhere either, she just had him do simple tasks. She also asked questions about Moon tried to calmly reason with facts on why he should share.
I agree that the earth should come over and help. Sadly, because the creator isn't going to be making any more robots since he's dead in this one I feel it's better if he had a more gentle approach rather than ....this.
@@CosmicCloud403 Fair point! Though I still hope Earth can maybe pay a visit, probably under some excuse like “Oh I’m visiting from a different location!” because I’m pretty sure explaining to Sun that dimensional travel is real would probably make his head explode.
Also I’m pretty sure everyone is just being hard on everyone else here, puppet is being too pushy with Eclipse, Eclipse is being too hard on Sun, Sun is being too hard on Moon, everybody needs a mindset adjustment.
@@Kyran_Mai I actually think being pushy with Eclipse might be helpful too in the long run.(Although granted, Puppet probably shouldn’t have BINDED him to a channel for life.😅😅) But anyway, Eclipse is traumatized and no one’s ever reached a hand out to him, before Earth. What people don’t understand about Earth though is that in a way, she was ALSO pushy. She was pushy in her kindness. What Eclipse said to her didn’t affect her because she was able to slow down and acknowledge that Eclipse MIGHT want to change.
Puppet is a different kind of pushy. She IS in a way a little pushy with kindness, but she’s pushy with the idea of not only GIVING Eclipse a friend who can help him, but ALSO a friend who can hang out with him. Not that Earth didn’t help him or enjoy his company, she’s but she help all the time and at the moment she has her own issues. Puppet wants to help him, she WANTS to help him get over the trauma that’s been so greatly rooted in him for so long.
Eclipse is being hard on Sun because of his own trauma, which ain’t good, but at least we get WHY. He’s been Moon at some point and doesn’t want the same thing to happen here… or just doesn’t want someone else to suffer his and Moons pain, honestly it’s a gamble when it’s Eclipse and it comes to his hatred of Moon.😅😅
On Sun being too hard on Moon, I’m not sure if him being hard on him is what this is, as to be hard on someone you have to be setting standards, Moon was never given a CHANCE. Sun just hates him… it makes me wonder if what Dark Sun said is true to some extent… do all Suns REALLY have some part of them that hates their brother? I mean, for many it CAN be justified, but sometimes like now… idk, it’s just something to think about-
Sorry for the long comment, I like theorizing.😅😅😅
Have a cookie for your trouble!🥰🍪
dang I feel bad for feeling myself lose patience with Sunshine but he's not being fair ;w; Hopefully getting him and Moonlight a way to talk might steer things in the right direction
Fingers crossed that things go smoothly!
it's ok I'm sure a lot of people felt the same way you did.
also i feel sorry for both sun and moon and do you think if earth was in this dimension that she could have found/find a way to calm sunny down.
I Kinda felt the same. I feel bad about feeling annoyed at Sun.
Like they said he’s immature and he doesn’t trust these people because all they done is force him to do stuff he doesn’t want to do
@@biobennie-kk9hu yeah to be fair, that doesn't make puppet and eclipse better, not at all and stuff.
Other Moon gonna be depressed as Hell if he was still conscious when Other Sun was out. Geez, the torture to not be able to do anything, like being in a coma. :(
yea but that's basically the same for sun, sun would also be unable to control his own body when moon takes control.
@@em2souls Yeah. But the problem is that once Other Moon’s Kill Code activates, it can cause problems. Being unfairly surpressed for so long, that dark code would figure out how to ruin Sun’s life.
I feel like this video could have very well been titled “Sun having a panic attack!? IN VRCHAT”
Ngl, I don't know how to feel about this Sun. I do really like Sun as a character in most AU's, and the smallest part of me finds his behavior cute like some of the other fans.
However I feel like this Sun can easily be set up as some form of a villain if he's this closed minded about everything. Because at this point he's not listening to any logic. People can barely understand anything he says because he's constantly screaming and stuttering when upset and it is difficult and frustrating to hold a conversation with him. It's frustrating to me watching people try and have a serious conversation with him.
I do think starting out with letting Sun and Moon talk to each other is a good idea because it seems like Sun doesn't see Moon as a person. Based on how Sun handles speaking with Moon, it will show what kind of a person he is. (I do find it odd that Sun and Moon can't already speak to each other in their head because it has been said many times in SAMS that they could.)
This perspective on Sun and Moon's situation is slightly confusing to me because in SAMS and overall FNAF lore, Moon was always the worse one when they were stuck together. Moon caused Sun pain, Moon killed kids, blah blah blah. In SAMS, Moon has showed remorse and regret about his previous actions while in Sun's body and despite the fact that he struggled to move and be his own person because Sun was in the way of that, he still felt bad for Sun. In SAMS it was always about how they were both stuck in a bad situation and they couldn't truly blame each other for any of it. But if SAMS Sun was this bad when he was stuck with Moon, I don't know how much pity Sun deserves. Because this Sun shows no sympathy or empathy for Moon at all, someone just as stuck as him.
I do realize that it has been mentioned that SAMS Sun and Moon eventually came to an agreement to just go by the lights and not try to constantly fight for control, so maybe this is all just because the virus in Moon hasn't fully kicked in yet and the two have only been stuck in this situation for a few weeks. Maybe SAMS Sun and Moon did act like this way back when. As much as I want to be on Sun's side, I can't agree with his closed mindedness against someone who has actively tried to make things better for him. For someone who is considered the 'nice one', he sure doesn't have a lot of empathy for someone who is being nice to him.
I don't even know if all of that was coherent, but I have no one to talk to... My thoughts on this get more complex than what I've said, but no one wants to read a college essay of my opinion.
Edit: I just realized that the key differences between this dimension and SAMS is that
1: Sun and Moon couldn't talk to each other.
2: Moon wasn't immediately affected by his killcode, or at least only first spoke to Sun when it was in effect.
A SAMS episode from a bit over a year ago was about when SAMS Sun and Moon first met. SAMS Moon immediately despised Sun and wanted to "make his life a living hell". SAMS Moon was incredibly aggressive and bitter, which gave SAMS Sun a good reason to try and keep him trapped.
Maybe that episode is what would've happened to EAPS Sun and Moon if Eclipse and Puppet didn't interfere. Maybe this had all happened before in SAMS, but SAMS Sun and Moon figured out how to speak to each other by themselves. But by that point, Moon's killcode had gotten to him.
It's a similar universe, not the exact same. This Sun is not the exact same as SAMS Sun, so they are going to have their differences, some of which have already been shown such as the fact this Moon felt pain just like Sun unlike SAMS Moon who didn't (he struggled to move but it wasn't pain)
I love your view of this. All good points. I'm really enjoying dissecting these characters, and this Sun is.... hard to tolerate. The sams sun seemed to give everyone a second chance, (often a third). This one is giving NO ONE a chance. Moon, Puppet, or Eclipse even when he's being offered help. We all know dark sun is a thing, we all know not all Sun's are sweet and dopey. It makes me so curious...
@@TaylorTaylor-uj6rn Yeah... I think it's just so weird to me to see Sun in such a negative light, so I'm trying explain to myself the differences between the two universes. I'm so used to Sun being the one in the right when it comes to him and Moon being stuck together, but seeing Sun's perspective and how he handles it in this universe is something I can't get behind.
I do understand Sun's perspective. In this universe he can't talk to Moon. To Sun, Moon is only someone that wrenches away his free will and (used) to cause him pain. But at the same time, Sun doesn't see Moon's perspective at all. It may be difficult to understand someone when you can't talk to them, but anytime someone tries to explain anything, he doesn't listen.
I don't know. I'm thinking too hard about this. The issue is as complex and tangled as Sun and Moon's brain when stuck together.
@@Murakilok I think it’s more complicated than that. Also the original moon was worse and treated sun awful and I didn’t hear anybody calling him out for it at the time.
@@Murakilok i personally wanna think that this sun is like, paranoid. i do wanna feel some kind of sympathy for sunshine, cause like, I don't think forcing then to like, do things against their will is like, healthy for sunshine at all, puppet and eclipse are not exactly good people either. even puppet herself full on states that she is a bad person-
7:22 not sun being an annoying ahh robot 😭😭
He broke my ear drums for the last time-
You can’t blame him he’s been in the daycare his entire existence and has also been told he would get electrocuted if he ever left, now there are new people he has never met before that have turned off the light made him do stuff he didn’t want to and then locked him out of the daycare which is practically his safe place as he said and also what puppet said
Bro acting like a scared dog
Imagine Sun is gonna turn into the antagonist in this au (maybe not intentionally, that's why I said antagonist not villain)
(Also btw the idea came from someone else on a post I made by the person @Rejectgamer473)
That would be cool
sun is acting like a little kid and it's funny
That would be wild
That would be sick
I'm feeling sus too. I think it might be a cover. Hope I'm wrong, I kinda want this sun to be chill. 💀
Gee, give this Sun a *break!* 😅
But I also think that talk might just hint at some foreshadowing. Not sure which though…🤔
Tbh I have VERY mixed feelings for this Sun. He is very scared of Moon,but at the same time he doesn’t like Moon?.. He has very right to be scared,but Moon is also someone too!
It hurts me to see sun so sad and upset 😭
Before u guys hate him remember this is how our sun acted also ‼️
Indeed it was!! ^^
i don't hate this sun i feel sorry for him and moon i hope they both can be separated at some point does anyone think that would make both sun and moon happy that they could both have their own bodies.
I feel bad for this sun because he’s been in the daycare his entire existence and has also been told he would get electrocuted if he ever left, now there are new people he has never met before that have turned off the light made him do stuff he didn’t want to and then locked him out of the daycare which is practically his safe place as he said and also what puppet said
Istg nothing and no-one will make me hate this guy
No not really. This dimension isn’t exactly the same from our dimension. In the flashback episodes it was implied Sun did try being fair with Moon about it.
So EAPS Sun ≠ SAMS Sun
Aww Sun is scared :(
Sun is so paranoid XD
Wow Sun calling Moon disgusting and ugly that is just rude.
At least he's slowly getting better with shadows.
I'll say it again--- I really wish that Eclipse could see the dimension where he was never 'left behind'. Where Moon never left his killcode behind and Moon instead takes his kill code out on deathrow inmates. I really want Puppet to show Eclipse that dimension.
On another note, if this world has an 'Eclipse' through separation, will it mess with Eclipse's dimensional code, or did he alter his code enough.
2:18 "My name is Puppet and-" I'm here to say I'm gonna kick your ass in a major way. What are you doing? Get outta here... Get outta here!! ((I love Game Grumps lol))
i hope that puppet and sunny (sun) will become friends he deserves to have friends
9:34 omg Sun is pacing in time with the daycare music beat 😭
BRO I THOUGHT SUN WAS USING LIKE A SLIDE WHISTLE OR SOMETHING FOR A SECOND...but it was his squealing XD (8:14)
but hey sun made improvement, a step forward, good job sun 🎨✨
Poor Sun Man Give Him A Darn Break😭😭
(There I Fixed It)
sun acting like a little kid is both funny and adorable
Bro I read that as give him drake😭
@@Zammy_jr😟
@@Zammy_jr hey drake, i hear you like ‘em childish
@@K4T_LUV3Rwhat 😭😭
2:07 Puppet: good beat
11:36 bro...
Sun seems like a bit of a control freak, or am I reading that wrong?
I feel bad for Moon aswell, just having to stay suck in there. Also trying his best not to move while he was out so he wouldn't hurt Sun that much while Sun would move alot.
Yeah
Give this boy a break he’s gonna pull a lunar and explode
Sun deserved this
Puppet plea-! 💥💥
@@pastelnut027 noooo 😭
@@goofygoober.incorporated :)
HELP FR
WE BE INTERIGATING THIS SUN BOY‼️✨💥👹
>:)
YEEEEYYY
You mean interrogating
@@Cl1pticI can't spell lol :D
Yah I'm interrogating him
@@Imtherealpuppet0822 OMG IT'S PUPPET?!😲🤯
7:18 **Bird sun ensues**
Also, i completely understand why eclipse is annoyed by this sun, for some reason-
And i am annoyed too-
Suns Agoraphobia versus Eclipse’s Cronus syndrome (the fear of being replaced).
1:00 when he pops out of the ball pit it’s adorable!!
Nice going, Eclipse. You've successfully traumatized poor Sun. 😭
7:16 Omg Sun is so me ✨️💅😌
7:51 Oh yah so uhm 🤭
Sun is my long lost twin yall 😌💅
8:16 BoOtIfUl singing:3
Puppet is me❤
Oh wait I am puppet...
@Imtherealpuppet0822 Wha
No I'm KC 💅
Y’all ever just hear Sun make noises that can only be described as “Sun noises”… like there is no way to describe that… only he makes those weird sounds man 😂
Edit: Omg he sounds like dog I’m dying…
Why does Eclipse keep talking like SaMS Moon was nice and thoughtful to Sun at first like EaPS Moon is? We had a whole flashback to their very first day alive last year, from Moon’s POV, for the exact moment Sun found out Moon existed, and Moon was very clearly was violent and aggressive and downright cruel to Sun right off the bat?
5:32 yes
0:17 I’m sorry, this Sun is just too cute!! He’s just hiding in the little house, that’s adorable idk why 😭
2:02 The silly XD
3:19 False light 😭
4:47 He’s too silly, HELP- XD
6:09 OMG THE LITTLE NOISE HE DID
6:58 HES SO GOOFY
Is this Sun actually ok? 😭
8:13 WHAT WAS THAT NOISE, IT SOUNDED LIKE A SPACESHIP XD (Ok nvm, that’s actually adorable. HES SQUEAKING)
11:31 😭
16:53 Clipsy! :D
No. He’s definitely not okay
2:03 *activate beat boxing mode*
2:07 i litterally just said that!
7:04 he sounds like a toddler 😭
7:19 screaming goat
11:33 pretty positive hes faking
22:50 was that a hiccup or a voice crack?
23:24 last episode linee
23:28 i couldnt understand what Clipsey said here someone tell me
I swear to god this Sun is just keep getting louder and louder in his panics about the darkness and turning into Moon. Dude is just screaming his little head off- he is just not having none of the darkness and shadows. Puppet's theory of Sun being a Agoraphobic honestly makes sense, wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. But the fact they could get another 'Eclipse' whether Sun and Moon Merge.. or if they Separate, it's something that could either go well or bad. More so bad for the separation. Guess We'll find out what'll happen though in the future.
The joke of Eclipse calling Puppet a Cow has me cackling, get the feeling that's gonna be the way they just 'bond' with each other, by making fun of one another. It's honestly funny.
8:26 the thing connecting the tree to the floor looks like a butt and I can't unsee it 😭🤣
Puppet be milking the cow bit
Bruh this sun is a high pitch frequency when he squeaks its so funny and painful at the same time😂😂😂😅😂😂
2:16 bro started rapping by accident 😂
Edit
Bro sounded like a dog right here 8:15
Use the mirror in the daycare to let Sun and Moon talk to each other like our Sun and Moon did when they first met each other.
That's a smart idea
@@deborahyvon8013 thank you. 😊
WHO DARES TO QUESTION MY BABY?!?..oh okey it's Puppet :3
00:39 WHAT'S WRONG SUNNY😭
05:57 I LOVE SUN SM😭😭😭💕💕 THE SCREAM HELP
06:45 Puppet knows how to deal with ppl tagt has HIGH ANXIETY LMFAOO
08:17 MY BABY NOOOO😭😭💔💔💔
16:38 WE BOTH ARE AGORAPHOBIC!!....oh...
Questioning Sun❎😡
Questioning Sun with Puppet✅🤗
@@Tazz3y_480 lmfaooo
Moon said he attacked little kids he has a killcode, so why is Sun treated so insane when he tries to keep him contained
2:03 Sun created a beat 😭
if only they had earth in this dimension I'm sure she could have found a way to calm sunny down unfortunately they don't have earth in this dimension.
do you think puppet and sun will become friends at some point.
also i know earth can and won't ever be created in this dimension i just wish they had her or someone like her in this dimension.
I had been waiting SO long for them to make a joke like this. Cause it happens A LOT. You can make some sick beats with that stutter.💀
Give the poor man a break- man got violated yesterday TT
i wish we could hug him he deserves a hug and someone to talk to so it's nice to see puppet talking to sun maybe at some point they can/will be friends
8:53 Sun is acting like a child.
9:05 yes you were Puppet.
9:30 Sun. You need to share.
9:46 Sun is just a tea kettle.
Him walking out of the daycare is me when I have to get a shot...
Same T-T
man he needs a hug or something thatll probably help him calm down 😭 hes got some crazy strong ocd istg
7:17 SUN HOOTING AND HOLLERING IS SO FUN also, I just want to point out that sun needs a little bit extra care when it comes down to the situation him and moon are in. I feel like a lot of the characters are pushing him really quickly out of his comfort zone like in this episode when it’s clear that he’s still very heavily programmed to be just a daycare attendant animatronic and not having his own personality like SAMS sun all he’s ever known is the daycare and all he’s ever known is when he changes into moon it hurts like hell it’s like when you are little you learn that after you put a mug in a microwave and you heat it up that the outside of the mug is hot and burns because it hurts but when you get a microwave safe mug that doesn’t heat up on the outside, you’re very hesitant to grab the mug regularly and not with a cloth or from the handle because you’re used to it burning that's how sun is his mind has been conditioned to live like that and it’s going to take a lot to decondition him from those things. It’s going to take a long time for him to realize that it no longer hurts to change into moon that nothing bad will happen if he leaves the daycare, but he also needs to be taught when he moved around before yesterday‘s episode when the pain receptors were turned off, it would hurt moon but the reason he didn’t know those things was because he wasn’t the one inside the body 24/7 he was the one out most of the time, therefore he didn’t experience the pain moon felt and moon stayed still because he knows that pain not because he likes sun and he didn’t want to cause him pain, but for the fact that he knows sun doesn’t know any better now that’s not to defend him sun 100% is in the wrong for keeping moon inside all the time with the worry of moon hurting somebody and he should give moon more of the benefit of the doubt I think both of them eventually need to find some way to have a conversation with each other because it’s clear that moon has built-up resentment that he 100% has the right to feel and sun needs to learn and hear from moon that moon isn’t that bad of a person that sun thinks he is I think what they need to do is have SAMS sun and moon talk to this universes sun and moon
Man I love that this sun acts like a dog/child!!! It makes him sooo different from the other main sun.❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥🤣😅
FR
7:17 me core
It's eye opening to see what this looks like to someone else. This isn't going to change how afraid I am of certain unnamed people, places, and things, but at least I know how insane I look before I have a full-blown panic attack over them.
.....oooooooh I think I get why Eclipse is nervous about separating them or combining them. There can only be one Eclipse with the same demensional code, in a demension at a time. That can cause some problems for him there...
Also, side note..... this Sun is SO hard to get a reading on. Initially I just found him overly obnoxious and a hypocrite, but the Agoraphobia theory is a very interesting one. But i feel like there's more to it than that. The excessive stuttering and VERY extreme over-the-top reactions makes me think about Ruin. How good of an actor he was to make everyone think he was crazy the whole time.... to be fair, it could be genuine. But ever since that Ruin reveal, I know Davis can be VERY crafty with his characters.... I'm intrigued 🧐
The end where Eclipse says that both ways will still end up with an eclipse makes me think a bit. Maybe Eclipse doesn’t want another him to be made because he doesn’t want that one to end up like himself, feeling abandoned and betrayed.
He clearly doesn’t want either of them to suffer, mainly moon. When he yelled at Sun about keeping Moon locked away, was he upset and discontent with the possibility of Moon being just like him, angry and vengeful?
He seems to care. In his own way, he cares about others more now than he did before. I think that it was mostly Earth’s doing that made him start to care, and I’m glad that someone was able to help him, even if he doesn’t want to admit it.
Why is it so funny when sun is dieing for the donnut at 8:03
I give Puppet credit. She's very smart to trick Sun with the barrels and stuff. And I've never heard of agoraphobia before, but that's interesting. I think you might need Earth's help with this.
I love how Puppet keeps trying to include Eclipse even if he keeps saying no
Puppet, i know exposure therapy is a thing but i dont think this is how you do it. Mans is clearly terrified. Justified or not phobias and anxietys cant just be swept away like this.
Yes this Suns not being very considerate of his Moons feelings and life but traumatizing him more isnt going to help that.
I wonder if our Sun would have an idea of how to help this one? Presumably he used to be like this himself.
At least puppets trying to help sun
Puppet need to somehow get Sun and Moon to talk to each other. Otherwise this will keep being an issue.
You know… one person willing to work with the other and the other not at all on sharing a body… Eclipse didn’t you or previous you do that to Sun…?
Other Sun is so ungrateful for his Moon!
Yea, it seems like Sun has a bit of a control problem
6:14 😢
Notice how puppet always invites eclipse to movie night or games. I feel eventually he’ll say yes?
They want this guy looking after children? He is a child himself!
Sun is frustrating and annoying... but as someone with anxiety from a young age he is sadly relatable to me (sigh). I feel bad for him. Guy could use therapy (and maybe a patient parental/ older sibling figure, but not Eclipse hes not the guy for this).
Eclipse seems to see another of him forming to be inevitable. But it might not be! And even if it does happen, you might end up with someone more like Solar if you play your cards right.
The voice actors are amazing at this! I can't believe it.
3:30 guys all light is now fake!!
THE DRAMA IS REAL RN
And the trauma
You guys really need to let Sun have a break and NOT loose his mind!
So many Question so little time✨️☕️ although is this the best idea to separate them...
Every Sun is just severely traumatized 💀
Nah Fr
do you think this sun needs therapy
0:31 GASP FLASHBACK!: Lunar and his do-not-disturb-barrel!
1:00 Omg how his head popped out, so cute!
7:16 If anyone is walking by and sees this, they will turn around and go "Nope!"
Yeah Sun and Moon need to talk.
My psychology side:
He's having a traumatic response.
the other side of me:
This Sun is annoying.
My Psychology side:
I mean he does have right and with the emotions and all that he can't think clearly right now...
The other side:
That doesn't give him a reason...
Psychology side:
It's doesn't but you have to understand-
Other side:
I know we are the same person,
can we at least agree he is acting like an annoying child.
Psychology side:
Yeah, you have a point there...
He’s acting like a child Sun is Eclipse or Puppet might have to Separate Sun and Moon so that way Sun won’t have to freak out on losing control
OH WHY??????
The little boy has trauma 😭😭😭😭
i hope puppet and sun will become friends also do you think this sun and moon will be able to become friends at some point
Is Sunny okay?
0:26 oh
3:55 he doesn’t want to go outside :(
5:12 Sun’s being unfair
5:47 like I said
7:54
15:25 the bridge has a shadow lol
16:00 ITS 5:01 FOR ME
i feel sorry for both sun and moon and if only they had earth in this dimension I'm sure she could have found a way to calm sunny down unfortunately they don't have earth in this dimension.
@@moonrizer-qb5do the creator made earth later on after they separated, so they probably won’t have an earth in this dimension, no.
@@chippybug i wonder if there is a way for earth to visit this dimension
@@moonrizer-qb5doshe probably can later on, we’ll just have to wait and see!!:D
We need the Lunar and Earth show back first:(
2:02 wow sun doesn’t know he had this talent []people start to make a song out of this sound[]
It actually hurts to see sun so upset and distressed 😭🥺
i wish we could hug him and i hope puppet and sunny will become friends they both deserve to have lots of friends.
also I'm calling this sun (sunny) as from now on I'm getting tired of typing/saying this sun so i am now calling him sunny and i think it is cute to call him that
@@moonrizer-qb5do I fully agree I’ll give him a little comfort torch
Fr! I wanna hug him :(
I JUST LOVE THE PART WHEN SUNS OUTSIDE THE DAYCARE GIMME MORE OF THESE GUYS I LOVE IT I WANT SUN TO MEET THEM IMAGEN IF ITS THEIR PAST😍😁
Bruh litreallyy every single sun now just gets absaloutely disrespected- i feel bad for him T T
Eclipse was created by Moon leaving his killcode in Sun, but Moon still had the killcode develop in himself again. So, if they just separated the two and didn't remove his kc, he really shouldn't be that different than how Moon was in the beginning. It's still a problem, but it's less of a problem than if they had another Eclipse AND Moon's kc. Also, I wish they could have our Moon contact Sven for them, maybe he could help with the problem altogether.
No Puppet, you're not a bad person. You're just trying to help Sun face his fear, and Eclipse can help too like he did a lot.
I hope that Eclipse will at least help Sun a little when the new Eclipse appears in Sun... or it can give the new Eclipse a suggestion about what it can and shouldn't do.Unfortunately, it probably won't help because, as we know Eclipse, he certainly won't come up with the idea of listening to the Eclipse who has experience. Instead, he always wants to do his own thing and not take any kindness from anyone
Omg puppet trying to rap is so cute❤❤
I love how immediately when puppet and eclipse get there they just start traumatizing sun
I wonder if they'll ever have their Sun talk to this Sun? I have a feeling he wouldn't tolerate his shenanigans, but also be able to empathic with him.
Still if this Sun CHOOSES to continue acting and thinking this way, he won't change...
Also, as an introvert, setting Puppet ignore everyone's "no" and not give them time when he thinks it's for their good is uncomfortable.😅