How to read the amount of spin (with Mark Mitchell)

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  • In this video, pro coach Mark Mitchell explains how to read the amount of spin when playing table tennis.
    Most players are able to see when an opponent plays a push or topspin stroke. But do you know how much spin your opponent is actually putting on the ball?
    Mark explains how to read heavy backspin, light backspin and float. He also explains how to read heavy topspin, medium topspin and light topspin.
    Mark's tips will help you read spin better, so you can play the appropriate stroke.
    Mark is an ex-England International with 55 caps. During his playing career he won a European Team Bronze Medal and the National League Team Title twice. He also won the Portuguese Open and Icelandic Open. He was the GB Paralympic Coach for over 18 years, attending 4 Paralympic Games and numerous World and European Championships.
    You can find out more about Mark here:
    www.stneotsttc.co.uk/
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  • @wolfgeowild8709
    @wolfgeowild8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am I the only one who appreciates not only the Mark's technic but also his great pronunciation and voice timbre?

  • @liquidginji3093
    @liquidginji3093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Someone read my mind here. Just yesterday my coach tried to teach me how to read the amount and type of spin of a serve. And now this video comes up. Exactly what I needed.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nobody taught me how to read anything about push shots. I practised pushing with a friend who had come back from the world's and had taken note of the Yugoslavians (this was the 70's) practising pushing. They floated, pushed, jab-pushed, tap-pushed, side-spin pushed, as well touch-pushed-just over the net with little 2-per-second rallies right up to the net.
      Everything I needed to know we practised for an hour, and I never had to learn anything about reading push-shots and basic serves after that. It's learning by doing, seeing, and even hearing: you hear the soft tap of a float return, and the hard, crisp sound of a heavy-spin push, and the forward _jab_ of the blade.

  • @tellmestraight
    @tellmestraight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hello Tom, I really like you bringing in these other experts to teach us. I think this will expand your number of subscribers! Your coverage of these advanced specific aspects is extremely valuable. Thank you.

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks Steve. Yes, I want to keep this approach going forwards. Some videos by me and some videos by other coaches. Always good to have different perspectives.

  • @costaches
    @costaches 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    tremendous tips!!! now, let's go to practicing. ))

  • @jimfarrow3036
    @jimfarrow3036 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best explained videos

  • @jakewills4713
    @jakewills4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have been thinking about this problem in my play, thank you for this video.

  • @vilaizvor7912
    @vilaizvor7912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Tom and thank you coach for your work. Greatings from Romania!

  • @maxargent5194
    @maxargent5194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really helpful for me as a beginner. Great vid.

  • @nguyenmaihoanghai5655
    @nguyenmaihoanghai5655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mark Mitchell and Tom very much!

  • @haegarvonelz2451
    @haegarvonelz2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best Video ever, i have seen to this topics. Thank you. Greetings from Minden 🌹 👍

  • @idrivearttabletennis
    @idrivearttabletennis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful video. Thank you.

  • @seatac2010
    @seatac2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish I could play in super slow motion so I would have time to adjust :-))) great tips, thank you!

  • @tt1cheuk691
    @tt1cheuk691 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark explained very well about the degree I had for many years, thank you so juch

  • @MarcelSM01
    @MarcelSM01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, very helpful!

  • @orionilian
    @orionilian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video!
    Tom Lodziak is a really good coach
    My friends who trained with him ... are very pleased

  • @qomarqomarudin7307
    @qomarqomarudin7307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot coach Tom

  • @anjanabohara5799
    @anjanabohara5799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am your big fan and i had never miss your video

  • @KA-eu9sy
    @KA-eu9sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Tom. Thank you very much Mark. Great video. Wow! :D

  • @danield.7359
    @danield.7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent! The right video at the right time :-)

  • @rahulshaw6929
    @rahulshaw6929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video....👍👍

  • @Jeeva-Tiwari
    @Jeeva-Tiwari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation s

  • @tomekblaszczyk7591
    @tomekblaszczyk7591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tom, I really enjoy and look forward to your helpful tips videos. Just last night I had a great game against one opponent only to start missing most of my loops against another and not knowing why. Thank you for sharing this really makes sense.

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time you will get your revenge!

  • @djfunkychicken
    @djfunkychicken 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent, excellent, excellent.. and thank you !

  • @semaandouaihi2673
    @semaandouaihi2673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mark and Tom . Very interesting.

  • @jagadish861
    @jagadish861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you mark❤

  • @febatman
    @febatman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mark seems like a top coach. Keep up the good work Tom.

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Mark is very experienced and coached at a very high level.

  • @lightawake
    @lightawake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great video - but it would be great if there was a rally clip after his topspin comments too, and another with sound after his comments about listening so that we could actually hear for what he's talking about.

  • @williamoak1825
    @williamoak1825 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom... Thank you so much for that!!!

  • @justchill99902
    @justchill99902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for good tips. One more and very advanced way to read the amout of spin is to carefully watch the ball and the symbol on the ball.. how fast this symbol is rotating.. faster the rotation, more the spin.. but as I said only for advanced players :)

    • @karlschonborn4700
      @karlschonborn4700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do not agree, it s just a concentration quality: concentrate and you will acquire this concept of watching !

    • @abhishekdutta144
      @abhishekdutta144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the Indian way we are taught to play like that. It is indeed very effective in the floater you can clearly see the ball has no rotation at all.

  • @zorinjo7920
    @zorinjo7920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm first, great videoooo finally🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @marleiserashford396
    @marleiserashford396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @Alexreal47
    @Alexreal47 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be nice you could explain how to defend these shots.
    When the top spin or back spin is heaviest how should we respond or opposite.

  • @vladimirkleban16
    @vladimirkleban16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TNX, Tom!

  • @re7430
    @re7430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wish i had friends to play with

  • @balestas4309
    @balestas4309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Tom ! Very good video as usual.
    I have a question: Recently, i improve alot my backhand technics, but i still can't use it effectively in competition. Maybe i think too much about using my backhand and forget to get back to my forehand (and forehand footwork) which is my strength.
    How can I gradually integrate my backhand into my game?

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Initially, you may have to really put yourself in a backhand mindset. So when you play, you tell yourself that you MUST play positive backhand strokes. Don't worry if you make mistakes - this is part of the development process. The more you commit to using your backhand in matches, the more natural it will become. But if you keep stepping around and using your forehand, then your backhand may never develop.

    • @balestas4309
      @balestas4309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomLodziak Thank you coach

  • @Franky_1974
    @Franky_1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good explanations! Thank you very much. But it's not so easy to hear AND to watch the amount of spin. It depends on the opponent how fast or hidden the moves are. The opponent may be using variations that make it difficult to read the spin and the contact point of the ball correctly.

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are correct - it is not easy to watch the bat angle, listen to the sound and then play the appropriate shot. The game is so fast, you have very little reaction time. This is why you have to train for many, many years, until the your play becomes instinctive. You see the contact, you hear the sound and your body automatically knows how to adjust.

  • @nubnub4263
    @nubnub4263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My serve is quite good, it has a good amount of backspin and when it hits the enemy’s court, it immediately stops. My serve uses wrist, I like this because its nit that fast and becomes short, but i want to add more spin so it becomes sort of a “ghost serve” but how do i improve that, the rubber that i use is a Yinhe moon i think (i do not know exactly).

  • @glObOfad365
    @glObOfad365 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's best to give samples of sounds that you were referring to and compare the difference

  • @user-lq6mq6uu4h
    @user-lq6mq6uu4h 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were good!

  • @eloimumford5247
    @eloimumford5247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know a lot of players litterally every-ball--spinners ...once you decyphir them and respond by more agressiveness they meet their defeat . Every time i play soft i am owned by spinners ...my motto : kill his spin. Thanks for the alphabet reading lesson !

  • @isithardtobevegan53
    @isithardtobevegan53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to play against anti-spin and against long pimples and against short pimples?

  • @yudistiraliem135
    @yudistiraliem135 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t know that Tim Apple is such a good table tennis coach.

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do table tennis people call it a topspin when the spin is generated more on the back of the ball? Proper topspin must be when you increase the speed to where you actually brush ontop of the ball.

  • @user-px4do1pw2g
    @user-px4do1pw2g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd 👌🏻

  • @kdgr
    @kdgr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🏓👍

  • @Allanwify
    @Allanwify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hard part is to stay focused

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, agreed! When my focus drifts, then I make mistakes.

  • @alika5989
    @alika5989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gj

  • @anjanabohara5799
    @anjanabohara5799 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give one stag blade

  • @ncrean66
    @ncrean66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately, no easy way to read the spin unless you are familiar with all the shots your opponent uses. This is why pro players practice many types of serve while using just 2 or 3 of them on tournaments.

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does take a lot of time and practice to get good at reading spin AND for your brain to process the information AND for your body to play the appropriate shot in return. From my experience, it takes most players 5-10 years of regular and purposeful practice to get very confident at reading spin well.

  • @maenacional7646
    @maenacional7646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They look all the same to me.. damn I really need to practice more..

  • @circuit401
    @circuit401 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guide by gordon ramsay

  • @Vaultdorr
    @Vaultdorr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my god, that was the worst url I have ever seen!

    • @groovecontrol243
      @groovecontrol243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello Vaultdorr, I'm very disappointed with your remark. I have the
      very good fortune of training with Mark every week. He's the best
      coach I've trained with, his attention to detail is second to none.
      He has so much experience and knowledge, that he trains players
      at local and national level. My game has improved alot under his
      tutelage. Vaultdorr, if you live in the Cambridgeshire area. Come down
      to one of Marks training sessions, I think you'll have a very different
      opinion.

    • @Vaultdorr
      @Vaultdorr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@groovecontrol243 I think you misinterpreted what I meant. I don't doubt for one second that the club is great and Mark obviously knows what he's talking about. I was just making a joke about the url (the internet address stneotsttc.co.uk) being a bit difficult to read and communicate :)

    • @courtesywater6hi992
      @courtesywater6hi992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@groovecontrol243 no hes not marks a wanker

  • @kamiljurkiewicz3807
    @kamiljurkiewicz3807 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom.. are u Polish???

    • @TomLodziak
      @TomLodziak  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1/4 polish! My Grandad was from Poland.

    • @kamiljurkiewicz3807
      @kamiljurkiewicz3807 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomLodziak it's like Tomek Lodziak :D i must have known :) keep creating such great content :)

  • @audioplatform6299
    @audioplatform6299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video does not take into account, the amount of spin opponent is giving you..