@@deHelli Currently - everything. Pickups swapped to Fleor Ceramic set from AliExpress, tuners to Harley Benton locking ones, GraphTech nut, Gotoh bridge and tailpiece, removed tone knob and to top it off - did my own refret.
Floyd Rose makes the replacement for TOM style bridges called the FRX, from what I recall it doesn't need any drilling or routing. If you're into modding this might be something to try.
@@Edivademon Doing great, how about you. Did not have/make much time free to practise on the guitar. Should be much more as a novice. But I'm not in a hurry.
I'm thinking about buying this and upgrading the components. Would you say this guitar can be picked up to a professional level with upgrades? Or is it not worth or unable to bring up? And if it is worth it, what upgrades in it would you say are necessary to bring this to the professional world and what else would you recommend?
It is very much possible to bring it up to a high standard. The only thing that would require a later upgrade are the frets. As to the upgrades which would be necessary: - bridge - pickups and electronics - nut So pretty much everything except for the tuners (depends on your string winding technique, the stock ones are not bad). I have an updated video where I have all the upgrades in place. Even with everything upgraded - I think that it's worth it. The only real requirement is to get the initial guitar in good shape out of the box.
@@TheOneTrueAJ They're not bad, my only real issue is that they're size medium and I prefer my frets to be jumbo. They of course require some initial polishing but that's to be expected.
I bought the guitar and I really like it. The only thing I didn't like about the guitar is the headstock. So I swapped the neck of the guitar for an original B.C. Rich neck from a Beast, which fits perfectly. Now the headstock looks at least good.
That's a mod that I had in my mind initially when I got the guitar, but I got used to the headstock and especially the chunkier neck profile. In the end I went as far as replacing the frets recently with the biggest I could get my hands on.
@@_fifeusz So the neck, the frets, the neck profile on mine was exactly like the Beast. The only difference was the headstock. At first I thought I could get used to this stupid headstock over time, but that wasn't the case. And so I made the decision, just because of the headstock, to swap the neck. The BS20BK now looks like a real Beast from the Bronze series. And if you want to change that, the neck of the original Beast and the Warlock from the Bronze series fit 100%. I think your idea with the black knobs and the black hardware, in the upgrade video is so good that I might adopt it too.
Hi. Thanks for the great demo. I have one question, how's the neck profile of those Hartley Benton, are they slim like Ibanez or Jackson? Do you find Harley Benton BS-20 neck to be comfortable, speedy, quick playable neck? Would this be comparable with something like Jackson JS22 or JS32 series of guitars, or something like Ibanez GRGR 131EX-BKF. I am in search for affordable every day guitar, that I'm not going to baby that much, but that is still nice instrument with fast playable neck. JS22 Dinky is about 2 times the price, JS32 around 3 times (Kelly, or Rhodes, or Worior). Would you rather go Jackson or Ibanez route, or this Benton would be sufficient. Have you ever had a chance to play this series of Jacksons or Ibanez? Sorry on my bad English.comfortable
I wouldn't call this a slim neck, definitely far from Ibanez or Jackson. It is a bit of a thicker C-like profile, kind of like in Fenders. For me it is actually very comfortable - I don't like Ibanez Wizard necks. Unfortunately I can't compare to Ibanez or Jackson guitars that you mentioned.
i have a question So I bought my first guitar 2 months ago and I’m planning to get this one for my birthday this year bc it looks super cool ,it’s super cheap and I love. To play rock metal … so I just wanted to ask if it is wort buying it
In my opinion it is worth it, it can be a bit of a lottery in terms of quality control as it is a cheaper guitar but Thomann has a very friendly return policy. Once you get it set up to your liking it plays very well and, at least for me, is very inspiring. You have to be aware that the neck may be a bit on the chunkier side.
I have an idiot question;..straight outa the box this guitar, can I do some Scott Ian riffs that are tight and chunky? How are the stock pick-ups with noise handling, would I need a gate for palm mutes, etc? Thank you!! This demo is 100% perfect!!
@@joelalexander4513 sure thing you can, I remember the stock pickups were not that bad actually, they weren't microphonic or anything. For extra tight riffs you'd need a gate anyway
@@_fifeusz Duly noted, man. I been pink floyding it for far too long. My bones are in impromptu thrash metal with all the rhodes work thrown in later! Microphonic, though. I used to have a gibson copy brown smally hondo 6 string guitar. That thing you could tap on the panty hose black mesh behind silver soapbars all day, and get some nice ry cooder action going with open tunings and half acoustic strings! with some OD like a breakup tube pre of the presonus variety maybe
I'd say that they are in the same category - it's all down to visual preferences. For me WL-20 is way too far from the original Warlock shape so I went with BS-20. Everything else is pretty much the same in both models.
Looks and sounds good for the price. Just a shame that the headstock doesn't fit the body at all, esthetically. It would have been so easy to design something similar to the BC Rich widow headstock but different enough to avoid the lawyers...
Yea, that's my only real gripe with this guitar, I had some initial plans to make it resemble at least the Ironbird headstock but at this point I got used to this shape. If you're curious about how it handles mods then make sure to check some of my latest videos where this exact guitar is after replacing literally everything except for the wood.
I recommend this one, it's cheap and if you have time then you can hunt for the good ones with Thomann's return policy. It's a great mod platform and it's overall very comfortable
@@starblood2209 Thomann has a very friendly return policy should you get an inferior quality product, you can replace it with close to no questions asked
Hej, widziałem pytanie pod innym filmem też, ale odpowiem tutaj. Jasne, jak najbardziej polecam. Mam ją już ponad rok i nie mam z nią absolutnie żadnych problemów. W stanie sklepowym jest to naprawdę w porządku gitara na początek, ale też jest bardzo wdzięczną bazą pod modyfikacje. U siebie wymieniłem praktycznie wszystko - ale co najważniejsze to wstawiłem mostek Gotoha i pikapy ceramiczne firmy Fleor. Cenowo wyszło mnie to praktycznie tyle samo co cena gitarki. Z wad to jedyne co mogę wskazać po tym czasie to progi - są raczej średniego rozmiaru, a jak raz człowiek posmakuje porządnych, wysokich progów to ciężko potem się przestawić. Nie mniej jednak - bardzo często po nią sięgam kiedy mam chęć pograć w D/C# standard i w tym sprawdza się świetnie. Jak masz jakieś konkretne pytania to pisz śmiało.
@@_fifeusz I do get sound but is the guitar loud without amp?? I wish I could show you but yeah it I think electrics don't make noise without amp mines does
@@altoxico6587 It is still pretty loud without an amp, it varies from one to another but it's pretty good acoustically. That's not a problem if you think that it is.
Surprisingly good, it's even better after changing the bridge to a beefier Gotoh and the nut to a GraphTech. I do like a slightly higher action however, so your results may vary.
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I have recently posted an updated demo of this guitar after changing pretty much entire hardware. Go check it out as well since you're already here!
What was exchanged?
@@deHelli Currently - everything. Pickups swapped to Fleor Ceramic set from AliExpress, tuners to Harley Benton locking ones, GraphTech nut, Gotoh bridge and tailpiece, removed tone knob and to top it off - did my own refret.
@@_fifeuszdude more like a new guitar
@@_fifeusz do you have a link to the fleor ceramic pickups you purchased from AliExpress? Thanks!
I'm in awe of the tones you've summoned from this modestly priced guitar. Excellent music too. Thank you.
I'm planning to buy this 😁 as a beginner, I think this will be a good guitar.
Go for it!
@@_fifeusz 👍👍
Did you bought?
No he byed it@@Metallic.Andriy
I have the model bc rich style. Only 118€ ! For this price, it's incredible!
All the money saved can easily go into mods!
Awesome. i really need one of these with a vibrato tremelo.
Floyd Rose makes the replacement for TOM style bridges called the FRX, from what I recall it doesn't need any drilling or routing. If you're into modding this might be something to try.
duesenberg les trem II
Really cool!
Bought it today!
Yoo! Hope you have fun with it! Check out my other videos to see the modding progress on this one.
@@_fifeusz Thanks! Will check it out.
@@sphereintelligence how is it?
@@Edivademon Doing great, how about you. Did not have/make much time free to practise on the guitar. Should be much more as a novice. But I'm not in a hurry.
@@sphereintelligence how long did it come in i heard these take forever to arrive
I'm thinking about buying this and upgrading the components. Would you say this guitar can be picked up to a professional level with upgrades? Or is it not worth or unable to bring up?
And if it is worth it, what upgrades in it would you say are necessary to bring this to the professional world and what else would you recommend?
It is very much possible to bring it up to a high standard. The only thing that would require a later upgrade are the frets.
As to the upgrades which would be necessary:
- bridge
- pickups and electronics
- nut
So pretty much everything except for the tuners (depends on your string winding technique, the stock ones are not bad). I have an updated video where I have all the upgrades in place.
Even with everything upgraded - I think that it's worth it. The only real requirement is to get the initial guitar in good shape out of the box.
@@_fifeusz thank you. I saw the later videos. What's wrong with the frets?
@@TheOneTrueAJ They're not bad, my only real issue is that they're size medium and I prefer my frets to be jumbo. They of course require some initial polishing but that's to be expected.
Sick
I bought the guitar and I really like it. The only thing I didn't like about the guitar is the headstock. So I swapped the neck of the guitar for an original B.C. Rich neck from a Beast, which fits perfectly. Now the headstock looks at least good.
That's a mod that I had in my mind initially when I got the guitar, but I got used to the headstock and especially the chunkier neck profile. In the end I went as far as replacing the frets recently with the biggest I could get my hands on.
@@_fifeusz So the neck, the frets, the neck profile on mine was exactly like the Beast. The only difference was the headstock. At first I thought I could get used to this stupid headstock over time, but that wasn't the case. And so I made the decision, just because of the headstock, to swap the neck. The BS20BK now looks like a real Beast from the Bronze series. And if you want to change that, the neck of the original Beast and the Warlock from the Bronze series fit 100%. I think your idea with the black knobs and the black hardware, in the upgrade video is so good that I might adopt it too.
Where did you find one i cant find a beast headstock anywhere
Super!
Hi. Thanks for the great demo. I have one question, how's the neck profile of those Hartley Benton, are they slim like Ibanez or Jackson? Do you find Harley Benton BS-20 neck to be comfortable, speedy, quick playable neck? Would this be comparable with something like Jackson JS22 or JS32 series of guitars, or something like Ibanez GRGR 131EX-BKF. I am in search for affordable every day guitar, that I'm not going to baby that much, but that is still nice instrument with fast playable neck. JS22 Dinky is about 2 times the price, JS32 around 3 times (Kelly, or Rhodes, or Worior). Would you rather go Jackson or Ibanez route, or this Benton would be sufficient. Have you ever had a chance to play this series of Jacksons or Ibanez?
Sorry on my bad English.comfortable
I wouldn't call this a slim neck, definitely far from Ibanez or Jackson. It is a bit of a thicker C-like profile, kind of like in Fenders. For me it is actually very comfortable - I don't like Ibanez Wizard necks. Unfortunately I can't compare to Ibanez or Jackson guitars that you mentioned.
@@_fifeusz
Thanks for your time bro, you've been very helpful!
i have a question
So I bought my first guitar 2 months ago and I’m planning to get this one for my birthday this year bc it looks super cool ,it’s super cheap and I love. To play rock metal … so I just wanted to ask if it is wort buying it
In my opinion it is worth it, it can be a bit of a lottery in terms of quality control as it is a cheaper guitar but Thomann has a very friendly return policy. Once you get it set up to your liking it plays very well and, at least for me, is very inspiring.
You have to be aware that the neck may be a bit on the chunkier side.
I have an idiot question;..straight outa the box this guitar, can I do some Scott Ian riffs that are tight and chunky? How are the stock pick-ups with noise handling, would I need a gate for palm mutes, etc? Thank you!! This demo is 100% perfect!!
@@joelalexander4513 sure thing you can, I remember the stock pickups were not that bad actually, they weren't microphonic or anything. For extra tight riffs you'd need a gate anyway
@@_fifeusz Duly noted, man. I been pink floyding it for far too long. My bones are in impromptu thrash metal with all the rhodes work thrown in later! Microphonic, though. I used to have a gibson copy brown smally hondo 6 string guitar. That thing you could tap on the panty hose black mesh behind silver soapbars all day, and get some nice ry cooder action going with open tunings and half acoustic strings!
with some OD like a breakup tube pre of the presonus variety maybe
Is this better than the WL-20BK ?
I'd say that they are in the same category - it's all down to visual preferences. For me WL-20 is way too far from the original Warlock shape so I went with BS-20. Everything else is pretty much the same in both models.
the cheapest the best
Can you tell me what case that is? I have that guitar but I can't find a case that it can fit in
Just a regular Thomann Xtreme case that they have on their site
Looks and sounds good for the price. Just a shame that the headstock doesn't fit the body at all, esthetically. It would have been so easy to design something similar to the BC Rich widow headstock but different enough to avoid the lawyers...
Yea, that's my only real gripe with this guitar, I had some initial plans to make it resemble at least the Ironbird headstock but at this point I got used to this shape.
If you're curious about how it handles mods then make sure to check some of my latest videos where this exact guitar is after replacing literally everything except for the wood.
hi , ive been playing for a few years and I need a good guitar with a fixed bridge, should I buy this? it looks and sound really good
I recommend this one, it's cheap and if you have time then you can hunt for the good ones with Thomann's return policy. It's a great mod platform and it's overall very comfortable
@@_fifeusz sorry what you by thomann return policy I dont understand this part
@@starblood2209 Thomann has a very friendly return policy should you get an inferior quality product, you can replace it with close to no questions asked
@@_fifeusz sorry im still not understanding, you can return this guitar and what they give you back?
@@starblood2209 your money or the same guitar model, your choice
Polecasz tę gitare?
Hej, widziałem pytanie pod innym filmem też, ale odpowiem tutaj. Jasne, jak najbardziej polecam. Mam ją już ponad rok i nie mam z nią absolutnie żadnych problemów. W stanie sklepowym jest to naprawdę w porządku gitara na początek, ale też jest bardzo wdzięczną bazą pod modyfikacje. U siebie wymieniłem praktycznie wszystko - ale co najważniejsze to wstawiłem mostek Gotoha i pikapy ceramiczne firmy Fleor. Cenowo wyszło mnie to praktycznie tyle samo co cena gitarki.
Z wad to jedyne co mogę wskazać po tym czasie to progi - są raczej średniego rozmiaru, a jak raz człowiek posmakuje porządnych, wysokich progów to ciężko potem się przestawić.
Nie mniej jednak - bardzo często po nią sięgam kiedy mam chęć pograć w D/C# standard i w tym sprawdza się świetnie.
Jak masz jakieś konkretne pytania to pisz śmiało.
@@_fifeusz dzięki za info bro kupię ją bo mega mi się spodobała. Dałem Ci suba napierdalaj dalej na gitarach mega spoko pozdro🤘💪
song?
My own riffs
Im looking at buying this guitar as my first, is there anything you had to do to it before playing it?
Aside from lowering the action a bit - nope, it played just fine straight out of the box
@@_fifeusz well damn, it's sold out so I can't buy it☹️
Mine sounds like an acoustic and it's not silent? Help??
Check your wiring - either with a multimeter or give it to a professional. I can't really troubleshoot it for you remotely.
@@_fifeusz it's wiring??
@@altoxico6587 If you plug it into an amp and don't get any sound - most probably wiring
@@_fifeusz I do get sound but is the guitar loud without amp?? I wish I could show you but yeah it I think electrics don't make noise without amp mines does
@@altoxico6587 It is still pretty loud without an amp, it varies from one to another but it's pretty good acoustically. That's not a problem if you think that it is.
How's the sustain, bro?
Surprisingly good, it's even better after changing the bridge to a beefier Gotoh and the nut to a GraphTech. I do like a slightly higher action however, so your results may vary.
Need 1 left handed
i wish more people made demos like this good job gangster - S133P3RH01D