Yes. Retro games are a bit of a hassle. They cost a lot, cartridges and consoles are hard to maintain, while emulation is getting better, with all the up-scaling, front-ends and one button quick-saves.
@@ogre27kain Im a collector so I do buy games just to have them as collectables. But if you just want to play the game just get emulators which to be honest is better to play the games even in a better quality through emulation than physical. I buy them and most of the time I emulate my games. People who say that you need to play in original hardware to play these games are the real gate keepers. Playing these games as gamers is what matters than you owning them physically
@PerfectSwagHD I get your point, and I'm a collector as well. I guess to clarify I'm referring to gatekeeping as people who buy with no intention of playing a game, they are just interested in the investment opportunity which in turn inflates the price for people who want to actually just enjoy the game. I'm not saying it's wrong to collect, but I'm not ok with creating scarcity just to grow your investment. I firmly believe that games are meant to enjoy and if your not then I guarantee there is someone who will find a use that doesn't just cause an item to sit on a shelf and turn to dust. I have hundreds of games, and if I find myself without intention or desire to ever play a certain game, then I return it to the second-hand cycle to hopefully find someone who will. I don't want video games to end up like cars rotting away in some old guys garage to never be seen again.
@@ogre27kain I understand your point here but I have no problem ppl doing this even if you are just doing this for investment purpose. To be honest if you are buying retro games for investment purposes. Investing on conservative index fund will make you more money in the long run than buying these games (not financial advice). Majority of ppl who try this are not very bright the only scenario this would work if you are buying seal copy of games and then grading them and hope you make money from doing this but still its huge speculation like crypto/nfts. At the end of the day its a free market if you think these prices are ridiculous then dont buy them and eventually prices will come down it would choose take ppl to say no to the price. Personally I collected several "rare" games but i dont care of financial value I do it because i just like the feeling of being few of the ppl who owned this game. I just like this hobby when i encounter a game thats out of the price range I refuse to paid that amount.
I don’t think this stuff will slow down anytime soon. They won’t make physical media anymore. The prices will go up and down, but eventually, they will go up in the long-term.
You can only watch so many collection videos, game room tours, and pickups videos before you get tired of seeing those videos. I've been youtubing since 2007, and those videos have been around since before then. As far as the retro scene getting stale, it's been stale for over a decade, everyone is just now coming around to it now. You can only watch the same kinds of videos so many times before you get tired of that format. As for the collecting aspect, for some markets, people get priced out, so they collect for the next era up. Gamecube comes to mind when it comes to being priced out. Also, since the people who grew up playing the PSWii60 as children are now getting to the age where they want to go back and experience nostalgia from their childhoods in the 7th gen, retro gaming content will shift in focus to reflect the younger demographic. Retro to them is completely different than it is to 70's/80's kids. Pickup videos are tired content. The retro gaming scene which used to produce edited reviews and interesting content, bringing nostalgia out in others, has fallen to the lazy content god of the youtube algorithm. When yt became about making money instead of sharing your passion, content became lazy, and passion for making content died.
I dont Watch Phoenix Resale or Metal Jesus or Most Collectors due to them all Being Douche Bags with that being said I collect for me and not to Impress anybody...
Prices for games got absolutely stupid over Covid, so now I just buy Everdrives and enjoy the physical games I do have. I'm not spending $300 for a game that sold millions, like Gen 3 pokemon. That's a scam, and all of this speculative market shit utterly destroyed my interest. I used to be able to buy SEGA Dreamcast Dev Kits for that kind of money.
Outside of Phoenix Resale and Retro Rick, gaming content in the form of pickups, hunting, and collecting is still going strong on TH-cam. There are plenty of new videos every week. It all depends on whose content you watch and the number of channels you tune into weekly.
It can be really satisfying to piece a CIB game together yourself, but like you said. Who in their right mind would pay more for the box than the game itself? Well, the extreme collector, that's who. I think we're seeing some resellers actually tear games apart to sell a la carte in order to maximize profits. As for youtube videos? It seems like they were niche at one point, but over the past 2 years I'm literally getting flooded with pick-ups, hidden gems, and just retro game content in general. It's too much. Too much money for the games, and too many videos to watch them all. It was cool when it wasn't cool.
I personally enjoy having just the disc/cart, I just want the game and they tend to be cheaper to find since a lot of collectors don't want them. It also helps that they're much easier to find space for and have the art on them.
The "everything bubble" definitely affected the video game market. Prices went parabolic. Bubbles only last so long and then there's a crash. We are past peak bubble on the way down. During the last recession NES games were selling for $3.
I resorted to just buying the Commando Steel Disaster cart. Almost thought I needed to take it back when it didn't work initially, but I cleaned it and got it to work. At the end of the day, I'm not super die hard about CIB every time. Especially for hella expensive games. Every now and then I'll get a reasonably priced repro case for a loose game and be satisfied.
If I had a dollar for every “My most expensive games on system x” videos I could buy all those games. Seriously though. It’s getting old that type of content and I can’t relate to this stuff at all. The most expensive 360 game I bought was $60.
I agree that the hobby can be expensive. I know that people aren't willing to pay $300 for a used game. The issue is the artificial inflation on certain titles on certain systems. I am a collector but not a seller. I try to catch the games before they go up, during or right after a console generation. I believe that no one can corner the market on collecting, the focus will just shift to different games until the prices normalize. There are a lot of new people making videos and viewers might want to give them a try. The main thing is the money that it cost just to try a retro game.
Think about how much time and effort you spent searching for the box and manual, to frankenstein it together. I imagine that’s why people ask 300 for the complete game in box, not easy to find everything together like that
I think some people are starting to sell off old games for good prices and collecting for other consoles. I'm seeing so many Xbox 360 collecting videos atm.
People are broke and people are tired of others hyping game values up, some games are genuinely rare but with the 360 store going down Iv seen a lot of shady stuff, I bought velvit assassin 2 months ago for 7.99 now it’s like 70 dollars bc of profiteers and marketing hypebeasts on the internet for no reason, it’s not even on the 360 store anymore yet the store going down has caused hypbeasters to ruin the price of a decent little gem, this has happened to countless games and people are tired of it and cannot afford it. I just become patient and wait for the finds, recently got a game for 9.99 at a store worth 150 on eBay so that’s my game over paying these prices
yard sale/pickups videos are cancer on the hobby. retro game prices are only rising, interest is higher than ever, i have teens and preteens buying retro games. people might be priced out, but that doesnt mean theres not tons of people who still can afford it.just because people dont want to watch people humble brag about thier finds doesnt mean there isnt a rabid retro collecting fandom. and the situation of box/manual costing multiple times what the game cost isn nothing new... been this way for 20+ years going all the way back to the early days of NES collecting.
The interest comes from the saturation of 'content'. 3yrs ago not many were making it. Now there are a lot of people doing it. In terms of views.... you are still a slave to the youtube algorithm.
@@retropursuit992 I used to be the latter. It feels so much better to have all my games with a cool front-end and endless filters, up-scaled and all in one place. I only keep a a few of my favs.
@@SylentEcho if I’m honest, nowadays I play everything on my mister fpga or my steam deck up until GameCube/PS2 and it all looks great. No messing around with expensive scalers either. I get better then retrotink 4k image quality for free so it’s a no brainer.
man all i can say if i know what the game is i don't care about buying a lose copy saves a lot of money all i care about is being able to play the game but i'm only for games that i think are good games to me and nobody can tell me different because if i think it good that's all that matters to me also i will consider repro's if it a game i want that is extremly exp[ensive!
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I don't think people are over retro games. I think they are broke
Or just emulating that way you can keep buying just the games truly important to you
@HollowedCrow I hear you there. I'm way more in to the "All Killer, No Filler" mentality now more than ever.
This.
People want to keep tiptoeing around the fact that the country is within our next fall and money for most is hard to come by.
Yes. Retro games are a bit of a hassle. They cost a lot, cartridges and consoles are hard to maintain, while emulation is getting better, with all the up-scaling, front-ends and one button quick-saves.
This is true but PSP, and Xbox 360 is trending early and will be in going hard this July. DS and Wii u games are on a down turn
The crappy part is that most people who buy those cib collector games don't even play them.
Most collector buy these games as collectibles than games
@PerfectSwagHD it's sad and then they act like gatekeepers to the people that actually do want to play them.
@@ogre27kain Im a collector so I do buy games just to have them as collectables. But if you just want to play the game just get emulators which to be honest is better to play the games even in a better quality through emulation than physical. I buy them and most of the time I emulate my games. People who say that you need to play in original hardware to play these games are the real gate keepers. Playing these games as gamers is what matters than you owning them physically
@PerfectSwagHD I get your point, and I'm a collector as well. I guess to clarify I'm referring to gatekeeping as people who buy with no intention of playing a game, they are just interested in the investment opportunity which in turn inflates the price for people who want to actually just enjoy the game. I'm not saying it's wrong to collect, but I'm not ok with creating scarcity just to grow your investment. I firmly believe that games are meant to enjoy and if your not then I guarantee there is someone who will find a use that doesn't just cause an item to sit on a shelf and turn to dust. I have hundreds of games, and if I find myself without intention or desire to ever play a certain game, then I return it to the second-hand cycle to hopefully find someone who will. I don't want video games to end up like cars rotting away in some old guys garage to never be seen again.
@@ogre27kain I understand your point here but I have no problem ppl doing this even if you are just doing this for investment purpose. To be honest if you are buying retro games for investment purposes. Investing on conservative index fund will make you more money in the long run than buying these games (not financial advice). Majority of ppl who try this are not very bright the only scenario this would work if you are buying seal copy of games and then grading them and hope you make money from doing this but still its huge speculation like crypto/nfts. At the end of the day its a free market if you think these prices are ridiculous then dont buy them and eventually prices will come down it would choose take ppl to say no to the price. Personally I collected several "rare" games but i dont care of financial value I do it because i just like the feeling of being few of the ppl who owned this game. I just like this hobby when i encounter a game thats out of the price range I refuse to paid that amount.
I don’t think this stuff will slow down anytime soon. They won’t make physical media anymore. The prices will go up and down, but eventually, they will go up in the long-term.
The rise of pirated physical copies
@@therealjaystone2344gonna be like the dvd scene back in the day 🙀
I see that to.i bought repo sega genesis i am happy there good quality @@therealjaystone2344
Doesn’t quite work like that. It’s generational, don’t get me wrong there’s still a market for this for the next 20 years but after that probably not.
@@retropursuit992 i think you are right
You can only watch so many collection videos, game room tours, and pickups videos before you get tired of seeing those videos. I've been youtubing since 2007, and those videos have been around since before then.
As far as the retro scene getting stale, it's been stale for over a decade, everyone is just now coming around to it now. You can only watch the same kinds of videos so many times before you get tired of that format.
As for the collecting aspect, for some markets, people get priced out, so they collect for the next era up. Gamecube comes to mind when it comes to being priced out. Also, since the people who grew up playing the PSWii60 as children are now getting to the age where they want to go back and experience nostalgia from their childhoods in the 7th gen, retro gaming content will shift in focus to reflect the younger demographic. Retro to them is completely different than it is to 70's/80's kids.
Pickup videos are tired content. The retro gaming scene which used to produce edited reviews and interesting content, bringing nostalgia out in others, has fallen to the lazy content god of the youtube algorithm. When yt became about making money instead of sharing your passion, content became lazy, and passion for making content died.
I'm grateful to you for make this videos you are a honest person
I dont Watch Phoenix Resale or Metal Jesus or Most Collectors due to them all Being Douche Bags with that being said I collect for me and not to Impress anybody...
mj? how?
Prices for games got absolutely stupid over Covid, so now I just buy Everdrives and enjoy the physical games I do have. I'm not spending $300 for a game that sold millions, like Gen 3 pokemon. That's a scam, and all of this speculative market shit utterly destroyed my interest. I used to be able to buy SEGA Dreamcast Dev Kits for that kind of money.
Outside of Phoenix Resale and Retro Rick, gaming content in the form of pickups, hunting, and collecting is still going strong on TH-cam. There are plenty of new videos every week. It all depends on whose content you watch and the number of channels you tune into weekly.
Phoenix and Rick are like that too since Phoenix single handed destroyed the collecting hobby
It has and will always be that the money is in the paper…. Not the game. Great video
It’s getting to the point where you can be very good reproductions where most people wouldn’t even tell if you look in the right places.
It can be really satisfying to piece a CIB game together yourself, but like you said. Who in their right mind would pay more for the box than the game itself? Well, the extreme collector, that's who. I think we're seeing some resellers actually tear games apart to sell a la carte in order to maximize profits. As for youtube videos? It seems like they were niche at one point, but over the past 2 years I'm literally getting flooded with pick-ups, hidden gems, and just retro game content in general. It's too much. Too much money for the games, and too many videos to watch them all. It was cool when it wasn't cool.
I personally enjoy having just the disc/cart, I just want the game and they tend to be cheaper to find since a lot of collectors don't want them. It also helps that they're much easier to find space for and have the art on them.
Things always die off.
The "everything bubble" definitely affected the video game market. Prices went parabolic. Bubbles only last so long and then there's a crash. We are past peak bubble on the way down. During the last recession NES games were selling for $3.
I resorted to just buying the Commando Steel Disaster cart. Almost thought I needed to take it back when it didn't work initially, but I cleaned it and got it to work. At the end of the day, I'm not super die hard about CIB every time. Especially for hella expensive games. Every now and then I'll get a reasonably priced repro case for a loose game and be satisfied.
Emulating is the answer
If I had a dollar for every “My most expensive games on system x” videos I could buy all those games. Seriously though. It’s getting old that type of content and I can’t relate to this stuff at all. The most expensive 360 game I bought was $60.
I agree that the hobby can be expensive. I know that people aren't willing to pay $300 for a used game. The issue is the artificial inflation on certain titles on certain systems. I am a collector but not a seller. I try to catch the games before they go up, during or right after a console generation. I believe that no one can corner the market on collecting, the focus will just shift to different games until the prices normalize. There are a lot of new people making videos and viewers might want to give them a try. The main thing is the money that it cost just to try a retro game.
I’m over collecting I did it for over 10 years and got what I wanted mostly especially Boxed N64 games. 100%
Now I emulate things that are expensive
The arcade 1 up punisher plays way better I’ll never go back to the 16 bit consoles
A lot of money to buy cabinet dust holders , is better buy game to play it
I got out because by and large it became a hobby rife with scumbags.
Think about how much time and effort you spent searching for the box and manual, to frankenstein it together. I imagine that’s why people ask 300 for the complete game in box, not easy to find everything together like that
I think some people are starting to sell off old games for good prices and collecting for other consoles. I'm seeing so many Xbox 360 collecting videos atm.
People are broke and people are tired of others hyping game values up, some games are genuinely rare but with the 360 store going down Iv seen a lot of shady stuff, I bought velvit assassin 2 months ago for 7.99 now it’s like 70 dollars bc of profiteers and marketing hypebeasts on the internet for no reason, it’s not even on the 360 store anymore yet the store going down has caused hypbeasters to ruin the price of a decent little gem, this has happened to countless games and people are tired of it and cannot afford it. I just become patient and wait for the finds, recently got a game for 9.99 at a store worth 150 on eBay so that’s my game over paying these prices
yard sale/pickups videos are cancer on the hobby. retro game prices are only rising, interest is higher than ever, i have teens and preteens buying retro games. people might be priced out, but that doesnt mean theres not tons of people who still can afford it.just because people dont want to watch people humble brag about thier finds doesnt mean there isnt a rabid retro collecting fandom.
and the situation of box/manual costing multiple times what the game cost isn nothing new... been this way for 20+ years going all the way back to the early days of NES collecting.
The interest comes from the saturation of 'content'. 3yrs ago not many were making it. Now there are a lot of people doing it. In terms of views.... you are still a slave to the youtube algorithm.
“Emulate bro” crowd loving this video.
Why not emulate ? It’s easier lol
I mean the emulation bros are better then the sit on a shelf collecting dust bros
@@retropursuit992 I used to be the latter. It feels so much better to have all my games with a cool front-end and endless filters, up-scaled and all in one place. I only keep a a few of my favs.
@@SylentEcho if I’m honest, nowadays I play everything on my mister fpga or my steam deck up until GameCube/PS2 and it all looks great.
No messing around with expensive scalers either. I get better then retrotink 4k image quality for free so it’s a no brainer.
I don't play modern games i love retro only im very happy with retro😊
I have a sealed copy of punisher on the genesis and bought it a long time ago, anyways I just play the arcade 1up.
Old games are good, but Windows 11 won't run them.
I'm having fun playing my xbox 360 video games
man all i can say if i know what the game is i don't care about buying a lose copy saves a lot of money all i care about is being able to play the game but i'm only for games that i think are good games to me and nobody can tell me different because if i think it good that's all that matters to me also i will consider repro's if it a game i want that is extremly exp[ensive!
I would rather watch a real game store owner than an interview with that limited run guy.
I don’t agree with any of your points but maybe.
Man idk whats up with prices i have punisher for 190 best offer cart and box i the best offer i got was 100 idk lol✌️