used furina burst before Kazuha because it helps her get more FanFair points for more buff i suppose... and if furina had her complete fanfair stacks she could have done this faster than mona, but since she has restrictions and i don't wanna hide such restrictions. My personal conclusion is:- mona stands no chance if fight is longer than 7 seconds since furina is really good for long terms fights because of her really high skill duration meanwhile mona skill is kind of dmg per screenshot. so if fight extends more than 7 seconds mona buff will be over and furina will win for sure but if NO than mona will surpass furina because of her no condition buff!
Using any external healing so furina can get her fanfair points faster will be considered as external buffs so I will not use such buffs in a comparison
I think I'll skip wait for character that are good with furina to come out. She doesn't have that many good teams in my opinion right now. Apparently she nerfs neuvillettes damage due to one less draconic stack
Just want to also mention that mona brings TTDS buffs into equation for attack scaling charecters (such as ayaka) but furina esentially alows non hp draining charecters to run marucheese or Vermilion
Bringing TDDS limits your rotation, plus if you are bringing HP scaling units TDDS will not do anything as it scales ATK. Furina > Mona…in terms of buffing main dps’s…but anyway, id rather bring mona and furina…this two is better than yelan furina or yelan mona. Mona dps plus furina support is a yes for me. At higher cons esp c6 furina carries mona to 1shot NA enemies to dust.
@@Okarin-gq6kyExactly lmao, "that is why I pulled" come on bruv No, you pulled because you wanted furina and mona is on standard. There is zero point in justifying your pull.
@@BluecoreGthere is also zero point justifying your comment, reading your comment seems you dont even hab the slightest knowledge about mona's kit, furinas buffs is overtime meaning itll start at base until it reaches 75% dmg bonus as for mona she gibs flat 60% dmg bonus at start and its furation depends on enemy stagger resistance or how long its frozen and can extend upto 13 sec, if u hab c0 furina u cant maximize the 75% buff she needs to be with burst healers in order to gain almost 75%
I didnt wanted Furina, only Beidou and Charlotte😂 and she came on 40.😢 I don't have any team for her. But I hope her buff will help though it won't matter with the team I already have.
Yes a 60% damage buff that only helps with afflicted enemies that last for 6 seconds vs a 75%-100% damage buff that everyone on and off-field can use at anytime as long as you bring a good healer. I wonder which is better.
In nukes mona might be better. Because it gives 60% buff instantly but for overall rotations? Furina's buffs last longer 4 times longer.. and dont forget about furina's hydro application that has 100% uptime and it has good damage too.
@@drimz2949 It's not about hydro application.. i said DMG showcases Where mona beats a c0 furina cuz furina needs to stack fanfare to get maximum buff
I feel like my mona is stronger than my furina. Furina requires complex rotation and it takes effort while Mona gives instant buff. For me tho Benny is a lot better than both of them in terms of giving buff
Thanks for this video, i am thinking of changing my mona to furina, i have c6 ganyu. but after watching i think i will stick with mona since i can throw all my damage within 5 seconds.
The only must pull is one and only zhongli. He makes our game easier and stress free. Other characters pulling are based on ur favorite design or kit or story.
Zhongli is only for level less than 30, after that you should be able to kill faster than things could touch you so zhongli will be nowhere to be found in your team comp
The fact i wanted furina but the game itself gave me my first ever monabat 26 pity on first day of furina banner(asia) after 2 years is enough for me to skip furina for rerun cuz baizhus weapon sucks.
Furina can walk on water the most important thing to have. I have seen all 4* no constellation activated clear abyss 36* and I can only get 33* with 5* characters.
Just got her last time from standard.. AR 60... She was my last standard... And she's really handy for nuke showcase... Higher damage ceiling through omen buff... But that's just how I use her, for nukes nothing else...
@@d-godfather wth you are even asking so??? And you asked mona ttds vs furina in nuke showcase then the answer always will be mona since she can use ttds and even mona provides team wide buff bruh... And why the hack you even need healing in a nuke showcase? I can't understand why you are even asking when you already have your answer...
Isn't it a good thing that no characters are a must pull in a predatory Gacha games ? Also fights in Abyss isn't that quick as there's probably some BS mobs scattered across the map away from each others. Mona won't work in this situation. Tho i would say Mona is great Damage Per Screenshot unit.
Furina is so limited while being cool at the same time, Cloud retainer will buff her, the healer and anemo unit we need, atm Sayu and Jean are only lite versions
Limited to what? Her buff last 18s for a CD of 15s. You can overheal your team with Baizhu, Kokomi, Jean, Noelle, YaoYao, Barbara and probably Charlotte. If limited for you is because of the need of using a healer in your team... well don't use her or uninstall the game if its too difficult for you lmao.
Furina is still better, in this comparison, there were barely enough time for everyones hp to drain from her skill so barely any fanfare points were made
This is more like a "different utility for different scenarios" thing. You wanna nuke and your dps can benefit from atk boosts? Go ttds Mona. Your dps don't benefit from atk buff and/or has longer dps windows (examples: Xiao, cyno, alhaitham)? Go for furina. This is true for yelan as well: your dps doesn't auto attack (Neuvillette, ganyu, tighnari, lyney, xiao)? Go Mona/Furina. I love what they're doing. They really learned from Bennet: back then, everyone benefited from atk boosts and Bennet was top choice in literallly any team you could think of. Would have been so lame and unfair if furina was just better, always. As a Mona and C1 aqua yelan haver, I would have felt like trashing my primos before furina.
I assume this video is about whos better in bursting down perpetual mechanical array. If u came here to see whos "actually" better, Furina is an easy S-Tier character, Mona is an A-Tier. If u can't decide if u need Furina or not, her off-field damage dealing is incredible, shes capable of buffing your whole team, but u have to be good in managing your party's HP(playing her pneuma osia), if u mastered the HP management, with Furina almost all character can use 4-set hunter.
Guys, i think that bot Furina and Mona are REALLY good, but i think that Furina is better bc: she is also a high dmg sub dps she didn't even had her stacks in this showcase she buffs the entire team with the stacks, she can buff way better than mona with constellations, she can buff even more BUT it depends on your team, if there is a place where a healer can be placed or there is a character that drains his HP Furina will be better, if there isn't any of these things, Mona will be similar to her
The video is a nuke showcase, bc Furina's pets are slower at their first seconds of in battle, but then they increase hydro application, hp drain and then 65% to 100%(c2) dmg bonus, so Furina I better in the overall situation but Mona is good for nukes, and building characters for nukes is not very recommended outside videos.
@@nezuko.0044 If at c1 you have 100% more damage than you start with 150 charges at c2 you start with 300 recharges in just 5 seconds, that is, furina sends all its potential to c2
@@DYSPROGENSHIN For the water walking or to just play a character you like, sure. There's no issue with that. But if someone wants that, Mona isn't really a replacement for her. This video is implying Mona fills her role.
I have an idea What do you think about Furina Mona Hu Tao Yelan with Mona using r5 pamber and 4 maiden Mona will heal just the right amount so that Hutao can keep her passive
i pulled for furina and lost to mona..its my first time getting her so its not that bad at all but it was at my 80 pulls..i need to keep farming more and more for furina again..after finishing innazuma archon quest i left the game and just came back..hope i have the time to farm
Feels like Mona is so irrelevant these days newer players would tend to play Furina even if they have Mona, partly because Mona is so much more technical to play.
You comparing a Burst team with a character that dmg grow over time, also, your rotation is completely trade her Q for nothing. She make my trash build Hu Tao go from 45k per crit CA to 65-81k dmg although she's lvl 60 with talent 1 and only 3 max artifact. Yes, she worth it.
Furina 40 stacks dmg vs mona momments do furina as 300 stacks dont reccomend kazuha with furina jean its 1000% better cicle dps furina eUlt pt team with 5% hp jean ult to ger 300 stacks
Oh? You mean I should wait for 10 seconds to maximize her fanfair 💀 Very interesting and cool Bruh it's her downside that she can't get max fanfair without external characters or at least 10 seconds of time waste which should be included in a comparison for the most fair results... It's a different case if you are asking me to hide her downsides if you are biased for furina
@@DYSPROGENSHIN Why didn't you just show both Furina with a healer and then without one? Anyone watching this video who knows little or nothing about Furina and is trying to find out about her will think that her buff is really low because the video doesn't even explain that there is a difference between furina with a healer and furina without. And the ones that do know something about her just know that it's not a true representation of how much she can buff. I know the pinned comment does explain that a little but, there are no numbers which I believe is the point of your showcase? Anyway, I hope this didn't come across as rude I know you make a lot of videos like these and its a lot of work building so many characters and your showcases are very helpful when choosing whom to pull for but, I especially enjoy your build vs build showcases.
@@Livtha listen adding a healer for her team is just like hiding her negatives. saying furina buff is a lot while removing a entire character from your team because you need a healer..... it's just like you are support character while completely ignoring you main dps... you don't need to use a healer like jean who contributes nothing but just a VV shred...instead you can just use a op support like kazuha who boosts dmg for your main dps by at least 40%, even can boost EM by 200 and will even do crowd control.... furina + jean= 75% dmg bonus mona + kazuha =100% dmg bonus the only upside furina have is her burst uptime and else if we are talking about buffs? i don't think she can win.
@@DYSPROGENSHIN Does it matter whether or not Furina or Mona wins in the end, a showcase is just supposed to show the process and result right? This video is a Furina vs Mona showcase and you didn't really show their best option for both characters to maximize their buff. I just don't understand your reasoning to even use Kazhua at all in the video if you weren't also going to show Furina with a healer. Cause now (to me anyway) it's a which is better with Kazhua video instead of Mona buff vs Furina buff. I'm sorry if I'm just not getting something entirely obvious I can be pretty obtuse sometimes.
You forgot that even tho furina's buff is better (more than 100% compared to mona's 60%) , it's consistent 24/24, also your furina doesn't have max levelled burst as far as I'm concerned becaue we only got one week's worth of her weekly boss loot, also you didn't get max fanfare points in your showcase!! There's no comparison honestly, furina just negs!!
Furina, excellent universal buffer and great sub-dps. Raiden is an EM skill bot that competes with Kuki, which is a 4 star that doesn't require constellations and doesn't have the shield proc issue of Raiden's E. Raiden is also the best universal battery in the game. But that's only because the few alternatives that exist are even worse than she is, don't expect anything too impressive. Other than that, she's just a mediocre onfield dps at C0. And has great vertical investment potential as a C2/C3 hypercarry. She's honestly the most overrated character in the game. She was my first DPS too, only because I play HI3rd.
Just as a little update. Calling Furina an universal buffer is a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, she can buff almost any team. But sticking to meta, she's not that flexible because often times there's better options. Still, she's already a better character meta-wise than raiden has ever been.
@@DYSPROGENSHIN we are not talking about one of the first characters of the game by archons i mean the last ones when hoyovers start giving them a role in the meta
Yes but you need Jean or another healer unless Neuvi is using prototype amber or something. Gotta have someone to heal the whole party for Furina's fanfare and max skill damage. ofc even with the team you already got 36* is pretty comfy, but u could put kazuha on other side and Neuvi/Furi/Jean/Zhongli or something similar
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used furina burst before Kazuha because it helps her get more FanFair points for more buff i suppose...
and if furina had her complete fanfair stacks she could have done this faster than mona, but since she has restrictions and i don't wanna hide such restrictions.
My personal conclusion is:- mona stands no chance if fight is longer than 7 seconds since furina is really good for long terms fights because of her really high skill duration meanwhile mona skill is kind of dmg per screenshot. so if fight extends more than 7 seconds mona buff will be over and furina will win for sure but if NO than mona will surpass furina because of her no condition buff!
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She didn't gain any, her pets shows on the screen whenever she gains fanfare points.
You need to use strong teamwide heals to gain large amount of fanfare points immediately after furina burst, such as jean or Charlotte burst
Using any external healing so furina can get her fanfair points faster will be considered as external buffs so I will not use such buffs in a comparison
I think I'll skip wait for character that are good with furina to come out. She doesn't have that many good teams in my opinion right now. Apparently she nerfs neuvillettes damage due to one less draconic stack
Just want to also mention that mona brings TTDS buffs into equation for attack scaling charecters (such as ayaka) but furina esentially alows non hp draining charecters to run marucheese or Vermilion
It would be interesting to see, Marechausse Hunter or whatever is a broken set.
Bringing TDDS limits your rotation, plus if you are bringing HP scaling units TDDS will not do anything as it scales ATK. Furina > Mona…in terms of buffing main dps’s…but anyway, id rather bring mona and furina…this two is better than yelan furina or yelan mona. Mona dps plus furina support is a yes for me. At higher cons esp c6 furina carries mona to 1shot NA enemies to dust.
Getting Mona’s buff for 3 times the duration at 18 secs is a win for me, that is why I pulled Furina
U don't have mona
No, you pulled just because you are simp
@@Okarin-gq6kyExactly lmao, "that is why I pulled" come on bruv
No, you pulled because you wanted furina and mona is on standard. There is zero point in justifying your pull.
@@BluecoreGthere is also zero point justifying your comment, reading your comment seems you dont even hab the slightest knowledge about mona's kit, furinas buffs is overtime meaning itll start at base until it reaches 75% dmg bonus as for mona she gibs flat 60% dmg bonus at start and its furation depends on enemy stagger resistance or how long its frozen and can extend upto 13 sec, if u hab c0 furina u cant maximize the 75% buff she needs to be with burst healers in order to gain almost 75%
I didnt wanted Furina, only Beidou and Charlotte😂 and she came on 40.😢
I don't have any team for her. But I hope her buff will help though it won't matter with the team I already have.
Yes a 60% damage buff that only helps with afflicted enemies that last for 6 seconds vs a 75%-100% damage buff that everyone on and off-field can use at anytime as long as you bring a good healer. I wonder which is better.
0-75% not 75-100....
@@DESIREHOK c1, se toma en cuenta ya que no es difícil de conseguir( y es de las mejores constelaciones del juego)
@@DESIREHOK i think he is comparing c0 to c1, c0 max fanfare gets 75% and c1 gives 100%
Most of Furina's ultimate time is to stack all the fanfares
@@DESIREHOK I’m talking about the max potential of her damage buff C0-C1 not the ramp up genius.
summary of how it really works and without C6 characters as an example: one is for nuking, another is for long-term damage boost. no arguments needed.
In nukes mona might be better. Because it gives 60% buff instantly but for overall rotations? Furina's buffs last longer 4 times longer.. and dont forget about furina's hydro application that has 100% uptime and it has good damage too.
Mona hydro aplication isnt good as xinqu or yelan
@@drimz2949 It's not about hydro application.. i said DMG showcases
Where mona beats a c0 furina cuz furina needs to stack fanfare to get maximum buff
you can use mona in xiangling's team, xiangling's burst will snapshot mona's buff.
and don't forget that mona can use tales of dragon slayer.
@@exdespair6085 dragon slayer talent ?
@@drimz2949 no, its a name of 3 stars weapon
This is literally "what i want vs what i lost to"
lol
I lost to mona c3 then I got furina after 78 pulls 💀💀💀
Since both figures are really similar, it’s not the matter of NEED or not, but it depends if you want her or not.
I lost 50/50 to mona when i tried pulling for furina
I am speechless rn 😢
Edit:thx guys for the likes
Hope you get early drop pal, best of luck. Still got events and an abyss reset over next 18 days
@@positivelyno thank you
Ill try my best to get her
I'm in the same exact situation trying to cope with this video 💀
I feel like my mona is stronger than my furina. Furina requires complex rotation and it takes effort while Mona gives instant buff. For me tho Benny is a lot better than both of them in terms of giving buff
@@syedakib3534 true
2 min silence for those who don't have mona after 4 yrs in genshin 😢 Everytime I only get is bartender diluc and zombie child
Thanks for this video, i am thinking of changing my mona to furina, i have c6 ganyu. but after watching i think i will stick with mona since i can throw all my damage within 5 seconds.
I'm pulling for furina just for her story. Man I'm so sad. If not now I'll get her in her rerun.
Ahaha take L
Did you?
@@shanchar lost her to qiqi on her original banner. Got her on her rerun
@@gokul-randomgaming3247 that's nice to hear
@@shanchar 🥳
With Furina c2 you can bring both Furina and Mona with Amber R5 for 160 % damage buff and have nice hydro apply so why not ?
Waifu hydro-buffer core, I like it.
Now do the same "test" with multiple enemies or a boss with a shitload HP in the abyss
Noooo that doesn't account for my confirmation bias
In 80 wishes got mona and in next 10 wishes i got furina 😅 now i have 4 hydro 5 stars
Do mono hydro
I got Mona in 80 pull, too. but havent tried the next 10 pull, hopefully i will get furina too 😢
Bro 😂 donate me some primogems. I only had 10 wishes and still didn't get any character 😢
I wish 50 pull and got furina, next i try to pull baizhu in first 10 pull i got jean. Perfecto
i rolled for mona for like 1 month with no luck i think ill roll for furina
Ar 60 here and just got my first mona on furina banner after playing for 3 year
Let’s remember that on Mona we can put the book that gives an additional 48% atk
The only must pull is one and only zhongli. He makes our game easier and stress free. Other characters pulling are based on ur favorite design or kit or story.
That mentality would change after u reach ar 50 and above.Zhongli is benched in my acc😂😂
You didn't forgot about Nahida. One of the best support and must have in every team
Zhongli is only for level less than 30, after that you should be able to kill faster than things could touch you so zhongli will be nowhere to be found in your team comp
Zhongli is good for new players. After some times, you will be pro enough to read enemy's attack pattern...
Zhongli is only must pull if you have skill issue.
The fact i wanted furina but the game itself gave me my first ever monabat 26 pity on first day of furina banner(asia) after 2 years is enough for me to skip furina for rerun cuz baizhus weapon sucks.
Furina can walk on water the most important thing to have.
I have seen all 4* no constellation activated clear abyss 36* and I can only get 33* with 5* characters.
Mona walk on water tooq
@@ajaidbhsoaandbsibut furina doesn't need stamina like Mona, it's not like y'all don't have furina with Mona C'mon
Getting Mona is even more difficult than Furina, you know)) 60 level still no Mona(
Just got her last time from standard.. AR 60... She was my last standard... And she's really handy for nuke showcase... Higher damage ceiling through omen buff... But that's just how I use her, for nukes nothing else...
@d-godfather I wish I will also get her soon, it is also my last standard character that I haven't got yet 😕
I lost 50/50 on Furina banner ..and got c2 diluc... I think i hate him now
@@soujiokita6062 bro, I have c3 Diluc, understand you(
Been curios about this... If furina can replace Mona TTDS on a nuke showcase... Still need boss mats for furina @ only level 80 and talent 7..
Furina will deal less dmg in comparison to mona ttds
@DYSPROGENSHIN
You can also bring another buffer (Bennett) or kazuha for grouping because you don't need the party-wide healer.
@@DYSPROGENSHIN for front loaded DPS noh? But I understand Furina is a whole team buffer
@@irvinggarcia7154 for furina team probably jean will be better for VV shred and healing for thr furinq hp buff mechanic
@@d-godfather wth you are even asking so??? And you asked mona ttds vs furina in nuke showcase then the answer always will be mona since she can use ttds and even mona provides team wide buff bruh... And why the hack you even need healing in a nuke showcase? I can't understand why you are even asking when you already have your answer...
I got furina because i love her character. I'll get her weapon on her rerun
weapon banner is a scam 🗣
Isn't it a good thing that no characters are a must pull in a predatory Gacha games ? Also fights in Abyss isn't that quick as there's probably some BS mobs scattered across the map away from each others. Mona won't work in this situation.
Tho i would say Mona is great Damage Per Screenshot unit.
Ive been doing the abyss with mona since i got her, in vape teams
I just simply use both, trust me when i say it give insane buff damage
Furina is so limited while being cool at the same time, Cloud retainer will buff her, the healer and anemo unit we need, atm Sayu and Jean are only lite versions
How is she limited?
Limited to what? Her buff last 18s for a CD of 15s. You can overheal your team with Baizhu, Kokomi, Jean, Noelle, YaoYao, Barbara and probably Charlotte. If limited for you is because of the need of using a healer in your team... well don't use her or uninstall the game if its too difficult for you lmao.
@@blackister4768 Saving this one for posterity. Furina simp cringefest.
@@irvinggarcia7154 get help bro
Furina is still better, in this comparison, there were barely enough time for everyones hp to drain from her skill so barely any fanfare points were made
Yeah, it's called front-loading. Crucial for speed running.
I’m using them both with C6 yelan and Jean 🔥
This is more like a "different utility for different scenarios" thing.
You wanna nuke and your dps can benefit from atk boosts? Go ttds Mona.
Your dps don't benefit from atk buff and/or has longer dps windows (examples: Xiao, cyno, alhaitham)? Go for furina.
This is true for yelan as well: your dps doesn't auto attack (Neuvillette, ganyu, tighnari, lyney, xiao)? Go Mona/Furina.
I love what they're doing. They really learned from Bennet: back then, everyone benefited from atk boosts and Bennet was top choice in literallly any team you could think of.
Would have been so lame and unfair if furina was just better, always. As a Mona and C1 aqua yelan haver, I would have felt like trashing my primos before furina.
She could be good for f2p normal players ig? Cuz we usually take long to defeat enemies especially in the spiral abyss
Thoughts?
Yeah, but she's difficult to build and not easy to use as mona. But she deals really good dmg nonetheless
She is good for f2p players
@@djampoucheukap1742why difficult to build you just need put alot of HP to her
@@renzjosermiral8606 and er
She need 200 er minimum to have ulti each time
I assume this video is about whos better in bursting down perpetual mechanical array.
If u came here to see whos "actually" better, Furina is an easy S-Tier character, Mona is an A-Tier.
If u can't decide if u need Furina or not, her off-field damage dealing is incredible, shes capable of buffing your whole team, but u have to be good in managing your party's HP(playing her pneuma osia), if u mastered the HP management, with Furina almost all character can use 4-set hunter.
How about you use both furina and mona
Bennett destroys these trash characters in buffing 🤣🤣
Guys, i think that bot Furina and Mona are REALLY good, but i think that Furina is better bc:
she is also a high dmg sub dps
she didn't even had her stacks in this showcase
she buffs the entire team
with the stacks, she can buff way better than mona
with constellations, she can buff even more
BUT it depends on your team, if there is a place where a healer can be placed or there is a character that drains his HP Furina will be better, if there isn't any of these things, Mona will be similar to her
Can I just use them both with another hydro character and an Anemo character?
Why not use both
Bro you didn't even stack furina buff you basically build her buff and still the competition is close just by her own damage
Bro didnt even activated her fanfare once XD
Lost to mona c1 then next 10 pull furina came
Lol furina buff duration is 3 times the amount of mona , also furina does insane off field damage unlike mona
damn, i wanted to pull for furina to experience new gameplay, but i already have mona, and my main dps is ayaka which both of them works really well
The video is a nuke showcase, bc Furina's pets are slower at their first seconds of in battle, but then they increase hydro application, hp drain and then 65% to 100%(c2) dmg bonus, so Furina I better in the overall situation but Mona is good for nukes, and building characters for nukes is not very recommended outside videos.
On the long Run and in the Abyss, furina is better and she has more flexibility
I started the game the first week and not Mona yet 🤷 but I had Furina yesterday 🥰
Fr blud im Ar 58 and no mona
@@nezuko.0044 oh, but the f&cking zombie dwarf has her C6 already 😂
@@nezuko.0044 If at c1 you have 100% more damage than you start with 150 charges at c2 you start with 300 recharges in just 5 seconds, that is, furina sends all its potential to c2
I started playing this year jan, have mona c1 but no keqing
As c3 mona haver ima stab and greet you
You didnt even gain 100 fanfare stacks of course its gonna take longer than mona 💀💀💀
I have both Furina and Mona. Im using Furina with Neuv in one team. So keeping Mona on the other is fine right?
I don't need a reason, she's cute
Who the hell is pulling Furina so they can fight an overworld boss a fraction of a second faster? Where is the full abyss clear comparison?
Ngl I pulled her to play open world😂
@@DYSPROGENSHIN For the water walking or to just play a character you like, sure. There's no issue with that. But if someone wants that, Mona isn't really a replacement for her. This video is implying Mona fills her role.
I have an idea
What do you think about Furina Mona Hu Tao Yelan with Mona using r5 pamber and 4 maiden
Mona will heal just the right amount so that Hutao can keep her passive
Hm, it looks interesting, i will maybe test this
i pulled for furina and lost to mona..its my first time getting her so its not that bad at all but it was at my 80 pulls..i need to keep farming more and more for furina again..after finishing innazuma archon quest i left the game and just came back..hope i have the time to farm
mona c4 buff crit rate so mona win
I dont have a mona but i got furina so its a no brainer to not use furina
whatever..i just want to walk on water..
Feels like Mona is so irrelevant these days newer players would tend to play Furina even if they have Mona, partly because Mona is so much more technical to play.
i got c1 mona losing my 50/50’s on ei’s and kokomi’s banners so she’s still lv 2😡 and i got furina❤
Okay
I don't need her, but i want her. So yeah
Furina vs mona?
Furina and mona 😎👍
Why did you use kazuha last?
Read pinned comment
Mona is better 🤷♀️
swap yelan with hutao
You comparing a Burst team with a character that dmg grow over time, also, your rotation is completely trade her Q for nothing.
She make my trash build Hu Tao go from 45k per crit CA to 65-81k dmg although she's lvl 60 with talent 1 and only 3 max artifact. Yes, she worth it.
Front-loading.
Furina 40 stacks dmg vs mona momments do furina as 300 stacks dont reccomend kazuha with furina jean its 1000% better cicle dps furina eUlt pt team with 5% hp jean ult to ger 300 stacks
What I really need is a c1 yelan...
Same bro I wish if I had a c1 yelan in my main account
Tried pulling for Furina and ended up getting Dehya 😪
☠️☠️☠️
You didn’t get fan fare stacks so it’s not really fair
Oh? You mean I should wait for 10 seconds to maximize her fanfair 💀
Very interesting and cool
Bruh it's her downside that she can't get max fanfair without external characters or at least 10 seconds of time waste which should be included in a comparison for the most fair results...
It's a different case if you are asking me to hide her downsides if you are biased for furina
Ok just know that I’m not biased just making a comment of my opinion sorry if you felt as if I was trying to say something rude or offensive to u
@@DYSPROGENSHIN Why didn't you just show both Furina with a healer and then without one?
Anyone watching this video who knows little or nothing about Furina and is trying to find out about her will think that her buff is really low because the video doesn't even explain that there is a difference between furina with a healer and furina without. And the ones that do know something about her just know that it's not a true representation of how much she can buff.
I know the pinned comment does explain that a little but, there are no numbers which I believe is the point of your showcase? Anyway, I hope this didn't come across as rude I know you make a lot of videos like these and its a lot of work building so many characters and your showcases are very helpful when choosing whom to pull for but, I especially enjoy your build vs build showcases.
@@Livtha listen adding a healer for her team is just like hiding her negatives.
saying furina buff is a lot while removing a entire character from your team because you need a healer..... it's just like you are support character while completely ignoring you main dps...
you don't need to use a healer like jean who contributes nothing but just a VV shred...instead you can just use a op support like kazuha who boosts dmg for your main dps by at least 40%, even can boost EM by 200 and will even do crowd control....
furina + jean= 75% dmg bonus
mona + kazuha =100% dmg bonus
the only upside furina have is her burst uptime and else if we are talking about buffs? i don't think she can win.
@@DYSPROGENSHIN Does it matter whether or not Furina or Mona wins in the end, a showcase is just supposed to show the process and result right?
This video is a Furina vs Mona showcase and you didn't really show their best option for both characters to maximize their buff. I just don't understand your reasoning to even use Kazhua at all in the video if you weren't also going to show Furina with a healer.
Cause now (to me anyway) it's a which is better with Kazhua video instead of Mona buff vs Furina buff. I'm sorry if I'm just not getting something entirely obvious I can be pretty obtuse sometimes.
We need both🙂↕️
You forgot that even tho furina's buff is better (more than 100% compared to mona's 60%) , it's consistent 24/24, also your furina doesn't have max levelled burst as far as I'm concerned becaue we only got one week's worth of her weekly boss loot, also you didn't get max fanfare points in your showcase!!
There's no comparison honestly, furina just negs!!
You don't have to worry about burst lvl it's 10
Furina is a must
Not a single character is a must.
is yelan replaceable?
can I see mona build plz
And what role does Noel play?
Healer for Furina fanfare stacks
Try on boss have 3M HP 😅
Mona Build pls:)
GUYS HELP SHOULD I GET FURINA OR RAIDEN I HAVE A GUARANTEED
Furina, raiden is just an electo applicator just use kuki, better and easier main dps to use than raiden
Furina, excellent universal buffer and great sub-dps.
Raiden is an EM skill bot that competes with Kuki, which is a 4 star that doesn't require constellations and doesn't have the shield proc issue of Raiden's E.
Raiden is also the best universal battery in the game. But that's only because the few alternatives that exist are even worse than she is, don't expect anything too impressive. Other than that, she's just a mediocre onfield dps at C0. And has great vertical investment potential as a C2/C3 hypercarry. She's honestly the most overrated character in the game. She was my first DPS too, only because I play HI3rd.
@@irvinggarcia7154 Xingqiu is the most overrated character in the game by far
Just as a little update. Calling Furina an universal buffer is a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, she can buff almost any team. But sticking to meta, she's not that flexible because often times there's better options.
Still, she's already a better character meta-wise than raiden has ever been.
Yes but i pulled her because of the quest mainly
i don't have mona
Dudes literally comparing an archon to a standard character 💀
Archon stuff sounds good in lore but gameplay wise even a cook from liyue performs better than an archon from mondstadt....
@@DYSPROGENSHIN we are not talking about one of the first characters of the game by archons i mean the last ones when hoyovers start giving them a role in the meta
song?
i use nouvillete, mona,zhongli,kazuha. will it be significant damage increase if sub mona with furina? i love to see if such team works well
Yes but you need Jean or another healer unless Neuvi is using prototype amber or something. Gotta have someone to heal the whole party for Furina's fanfare and max skill damage. ofc even with the team you already got 36* is pretty comfy, but u could put kazuha on other side and Neuvi/Furi/Jean/Zhongli or something similar
She is not that anyway
I need her for permafreeze lol
😢😢😢 but I don't have Mona either
Cons mona?
But i simp both so idk which to use
got both of em
im good with both
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Fucc I need mona
I have both anyway
Ma bro ur char is too strong, this useless i cant see any diffrent
just see the results where I have written the dmg output of each character it will be more than enough for final conlusion.
bad team comp
Lmao....
Jealousy right??? I am 100% sure my any team is 10 times better than your best team😂 so just cry....
@@DYSPROGENSHIN😂
Easy use them both
Gameplay podre
Mona not goog in the apyss
But i simp both so idk which to use