I've got the worst ancient greek teacher at uni and this really helps put thing in perspective and more easily understand them. Thank you very much. Also, why has the most important and last video "how to translate" is removed?
Thanks a lot for these clear explanations ! Really getting me hyped for taking ancient greek lessons in the future, I should remember a trick or two by that time thanks again !
I'm a bit confused as to why you are using the letter "s" at the end of the Greek words. I'm not finding "s" in any version of the Greek alphabet that I see online.
I'm a little unclear on the relationship between the, "marker," next to the vocative and how that indicates who you're talking to? Would you please provide more detail about this?
Thank you for the nice lecture, my friends. But just one thing stroke me as weird: Isn't the nominative/vocative plural form τêχναι, with a circumflex instead of an acute? Likewise νίκη.
Hi from Athens, Greece! Very good work in general but I would suggest as an assistant some good Greek MSc or PhD student (preferable from Greece and not somebody of a third generation Greek-American citizenship) just for the right greek accent. For example the Professor (of course not being a Greek) pronounces badly the greek word "τέχνη" as tek-chni that is pronounces the greek letter "χ" instead of the real sound of "chi" as it sounds in the first letter "h" of the english word "his" (...master voice..) wrongly as "khis master voice". The echo of k is totally wrong!
As a Turkish PhD student who does not know Greek but is familiar with peculiar pronunciations of Greek (especially those coming from the throat resemble the pronunciation of some Arabic letters), I have easily spotted that the professor was just being the American he is with such bad pronunciation. Please! You cannot have expertise on a classical language and don't know the true pronunciation of it for goodness sake. Apart from that, lectures seem good to me.
@@kilometrelercemilimetrikhesap Hi! There is no greek letter pronounced from the throat as the Arabic trills. The marvelous Greek language since the very ancient times (I do not refer to Classical Times from 500 bc not even to the Era of Troyan War 1300 bc which for Hellenism is about "recent times" but even older centuries) until now is continuing evolving and it is suprising when somebody discovers that a word we use today has its root for example a verb or word used by an hero of Iliad either from the one side of Aegean Sea like an Achaean or the other side like a Troyan (of course both of Hellenic race. I write it for some ignorant readers not for you. Hellenism were spread in both sides of the Aegean Sea). The Hellenic Language has built-in the clear sounds and the harmonic audibility of her words. It is strictly mathematically structured, enormously rich with light and fine differences among "synonyms" and very flexible and accurate in every meaning. Well, your meaning is not clear after the word "Please"... It is not understood what exactly you said. Pls clarify.
It's Ancient Greek pronunciation, Modern Greek has different sounds than those of the Ancient. If you looked up Wikipedia for chi, you would see that this sound change is written there.
@@unpiccolocuore It is totally wrong your comment. Wikipedia neither is a Holy Bible nor a reliable reference source for Greek Language! There are no different sounds and the Greek language has got proven continuity through time!. Of course there were simplifications. So it is another subject the group of the three palatal greek consonants (κ - γ - χ ) I write them in Greek fonts, that were pronounced and ARE still NOW pronounced using the palate of the mouth and in some words and hellenic dialects were used alternative one for the other of the 3 but NOT AT THE SAME TIME AS WRONGLY in this video THE FOREIGN PROFESSOR PRONOUNCED THEM (see my original comment) using k PLUS x! So my proposal exists that a good authentic Ph.D Linguist from Greece is the best Assistant for the team for the exact greek pronunciation.
@@G_Sachs Seeing you using exclamation marks proves my thought that Greeks just wants to be connected to the past as much as possible. Wikipedia was just an example. Your "opinions" are nowhere near of being a reliable reference opposite to Wikipedia which are controlled by people, not one person. Ancient Greek sounds has changed throughout the time till Modern Greek. I will just give the name of a video and expect you to find you were wrong and apoligise from the creator of these videos for the wrong accusation. The name is Greek Pronunciation: phi, theta and chi from PolýMATHY. Bon chance.
Thank you for these. I decided that this quarantine would be a great time to start learning Ancient Greek.
me too
O Teacher! The student gave the teacher a well-deserved thank you.
thank you - this series is excellent. I'm a lapsed Classicist desperate to return to the fold. Haven't forgotten everything :😀
I like how you relate suffixes to greek subjects, object, and singular or plural. This really helps.
Yo, dude! (Great example of the vocative!)
Thanks for cheering us on!!
I've got the worst ancient greek teacher at uni and this really helps put thing in perspective and more easily understand them. Thank you very much. Also, why has the most important and last video "how to translate" is removed?
Great, but what about dual cases?
One of my favorite TH-cam channels !
sage professor and true beauty assisstant. I ADORE YOU PROFESSOR~~~>
If there is only one accent per word in ancient greek, what is the long matlrk above the alpha on the plural accusative at 6:18?
It is there to indicate that the alpha here a long vowel; it's not an accent.
Thank you :)
Thank you very much for the lectures! Cheers from South America.
Thank you, I really appreciate the time and effort that you have put into making these.
Thanks a lot for these clear explanations ! Really getting me hyped for taking ancient greek lessons in the future, I should remember a trick or two by that time thanks again !
Minor point: English plurals don't consist only of those with an "s" and those with no change. "Children," "oxen," "brethren."
really nice. i'm grateful
This is what I'm here for!
I'm a bit confused as to why you are using the letter "s" at the end of the Greek words. I'm not finding "s" in any version of the Greek alphabet that I see online.
Never mind :) I saw another version of it and in this typeface, it's more clear that the one form does look a bit like an s.
It is based on Greek, An intensive course, right?
Yes, that's right: by Hardy Hansen and Gerald M. Quinn.
The Center for Hellenic Studies thanks a lot!
what on earth is that letter at the bgining of the example nown It looks like a backwards gamma to me but Im not sure please help
I think it's just a Tau, in Ms. Gillespie's interesting handwriting
Why the use of Erasmian phonetics instead of the Modern Greek pronunciation?
Because it's not a lesson in modern Greek.
Why would you learn ancient greek just to use the reduced modern pronounciation?
I wonder why you pronounce η as 'ei' and not as 'ee'.
Because that's the letter for the long ē vowel, but in modern greek to to iotacism it shifted from ɛː to eː to iː to i over the centuries
voice is too low professor
Thank you
I'm a little unclear on the relationship between the, "marker," next to the vocative and how that indicates who you're talking to? Would you please provide more detail about this?
The marker is just like saying "hey" or "yo"
Ευχαριστώ πολύ!
Good teaching style but I'm confused as to why they have not started with the alphabet? Wouldn't that be the starting point?
Thank you for the nice lecture, my friends.
But just one thing stroke me as weird: Isn't the nominative/vocative plural form τêχναι, with a circumflex instead of an acute? Likewise νίκη.
The ε in τέχνη is short so no circumflex, but the ι in νίκη is long so there you would be right.
the T in techne through me off, thought it was a backwards gamma 🤪
What no ablative! You can see I'm coming here from Ancient Rome!
Thank you very much, I am really enjoying this lessons.
So glad they are working for you! Stay tuned for more!! Best, Claudia
Damn! You should have sent out an arrest warrant! I haven't been here for almost 2 years!
thank you!!
What's an example of vocative in english? ....Yooo. 🤣I'm dead.
Hi from Athens, Greece! Very good work in general but I would suggest as an assistant some good Greek MSc or PhD student (preferable from Greece and not somebody of a third generation Greek-American citizenship) just for the right greek accent. For example the Professor (of course not being a Greek) pronounces badly the greek word "τέχνη" as tek-chni that is pronounces the greek letter "χ" instead of the real sound of "chi" as it sounds in the first letter "h" of the english word "his" (...master voice..) wrongly as "khis master voice". The echo of k is totally wrong!
As a Turkish PhD student who does not know Greek but is familiar with peculiar pronunciations of Greek (especially those coming from the throat resemble the pronunciation of some Arabic letters), I have easily spotted that the professor was just being the American he is with such bad pronunciation. Please! You cannot have expertise on a classical language and don't know the true pronunciation of it for goodness sake. Apart from that, lectures seem good to me.
@@kilometrelercemilimetrikhesap Hi! There is no greek letter pronounced from the throat as the Arabic trills. The marvelous Greek language since the very ancient times (I do not refer to Classical Times from 500 bc not even to the Era of Troyan War 1300 bc which for Hellenism is about "recent times" but even older centuries) until now is continuing evolving and it is suprising when somebody discovers that a word we use today has its root for example a verb or word used by an hero of Iliad either from the one side of Aegean Sea like an Achaean or the other side like a Troyan (of course both of Hellenic race. I write it for some ignorant readers not for you. Hellenism were spread in both sides of the Aegean Sea). The Hellenic Language has built-in the clear sounds and the harmonic audibility of her words. It is strictly mathematically structured, enormously rich with light and fine differences among "synonyms" and very flexible and accurate in every meaning.
Well, your meaning is not clear after the word "Please"...
It is not understood what exactly you said. Pls clarify.
It's Ancient Greek pronunciation, Modern Greek has different sounds than those of the Ancient. If you looked up Wikipedia for chi, you would see that this sound change is written there.
@@unpiccolocuore It is totally wrong your comment. Wikipedia neither is a Holy Bible nor a reliable reference source for Greek Language! There are no different sounds and the Greek language has got proven continuity through time!. Of course there were simplifications. So it is another subject the group of the three palatal greek consonants (κ - γ - χ ) I write them in Greek fonts, that were pronounced and ARE still NOW pronounced using the palate of the mouth and in some words and hellenic dialects were used alternative one for the other of the 3 but NOT AT THE SAME TIME AS WRONGLY in this video THE FOREIGN PROFESSOR PRONOUNCED THEM (see my original comment) using k PLUS x! So my proposal exists that a good authentic Ph.D Linguist from Greece is the best Assistant for the team for the exact greek pronunciation.
@@G_Sachs Seeing you using exclamation marks proves my thought that Greeks just wants to be connected to the past as much as possible. Wikipedia was just an example. Your "opinions" are nowhere near of being a reliable reference opposite to Wikipedia which are controlled by people, not one person. Ancient Greek sounds has changed throughout the time till Modern Greek. I will just give the name of a video and expect you to find you were wrong and apoligise from the creator of these videos for the wrong accusation. The name is Greek Pronunciation: phi, theta and chi from PolýMATHY. Bon chance.
boo not learning anything