Yugioh's Weirdest Archetype

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  • @Practitioner_of_Diogenes
    @Practitioner_of_Diogenes 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +31

    I'm surprised you didn't open with talking about the naming convention difference between OCG and TCG that TCG's naming convention also takes from a French retelling of the Alice in Wonderland that's much darker in nature. Book is titled "Aliss", written by Patrick Senécal. While the OCG having an upside-down A in its archetype name is a dual meaning, that Dodgson was a mathematician and an upside-down A symbolizes universal quantification, as well as the fact that Wonderland is an upside-down world.
    If you ever do a part two of this archetype, specifically on its hacking, programming, and viruses, I can leave a comment explaining some things in detail.
    And really... American McGee needs some justice. EA really denied him to be able to make the third and final game...

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      I won't lie to you, I was so focused on comparing the cards to the source material that I overlooked the fact that the archetype's name might be a reference in of itself. Your points are valid - that the TCG naming convention is likely wordplay on Senécal's book title while the OCG naming convention references both Dodgson's profession and Wonderland itself.
      Don't know if I'll make a part two for this since I mainly cared about the "Alice in Wonderland" references and want to move onto other archetypes/ stories. But I won't say that follow-up video is completely out of the question, especially if we get new waves of Maliss cards. Would love to hear your thoughts on the programming references if you'd like to share - the comments section is always a nice place to get other people's insight!

    • @Practitioner_of_Diogenes
      @Practitioner_of_Diogenes 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@pk_tuneworld Fair enough.
      Outside the obvious naming convention of "maliss/malice" being a reference to malware, or malicious software (could also be referring the "Melissa" computer virus, but extremely unlikely because that virus used phishing methods via adult sites), the letters in the angle brackets (, , & ) reference libraries in coding. Libraries in coding are generally publicly available stores of code that one can "call" upon in an IDE (Integrated Development Environment), with "iostream" being the most commonly used (it mostly is used for displaying and taking in lines of text (example would asking a player for their character's name)). In these three libraries' case, it'd be calling upon "pawn", "queen" and "chapter" libraries, which would house the cards in question. The fact some of the Link monsters gain effects if they point to a monster (which would likely be either a or monster) can also be seen as a thing in coding called "inheritance", which is where files in the same project can "call" one another to gain access to the contents within said file- normally, said file that's being attempted to be accessed would need that content set to "public" for it to accessed, though. "Inheritance" would make more sense in an XYZ archetype, though.
      The next bit in the naming convention would be in the main deck monsters, which really have the weakest references to viruses in my book. I can't seem to find the reference I read about a virus that had the word "mouse" in it again (all I can find as proof is computer mice can be affected by malware or viruses that can take control over the cursor unprompted), but from what I recall, the "mouse" virus in question would copy itself as another program to hide from detection (hearsay now, as I can't refind the reference to this virus). There are viruses called "Rabbit", which is named that because it copies itself over and over till the harddrive is completely overrun with just that virus, bit like rabbits can overrun an environment if not dealt with quickly. Chessy Cat can be seen as a reference to the CopyCat virus, which is a virus aimed at infect android devices and its goal is to root itself in the OS of the device, allowing remote access and control.
      The extra deck monsters are pretty much the easiest to explain and find references on. Red Ransom is a little more than just referencing ransomware, as one of the other ED monsters reference ransomware- Red Ransom also references Code Red worm (worm is a type of virus, btw, similar in nature to the "rabbit" virus mentioned), which mostly used an exploit in Microsoft Windows in the very late 1990s. Combining these two references gives the idea that "Red Ransom" refers to a ransomware that can infect an entire network (or domain... AKA, kingdom), not just one specific computer because of its replicative nature. White Binder is the easiest, as it easily references a "binder" program, which compresses files into a single executable, which is sometimes used by hackers to insert viruses into otherwise harmless programs to make the virus harder to detect (one of the easiest bits to find, as yugipedia mentions this). Hearts Crypter clearly references crypter programs, which encrypts programs that allow it to attempt to bypass security programs... which is on the yugipedia for her trivia... what the pedia doesn't mention is she could also reference CryptoLocker, which was a Trojan Horse virus that functioned similarly to a Ransomware Malware, and used a crypter program to do it.
      The traps I almost thought was a reference to how programmers would sometimes abbreviate variables, classes, or objects in their code, then I read what one of the viruses targets, making itself appear like a bit of code in an OS. The abbreviation is actually referring programs and code in an operating system, fitting as it references chapters or specific sentences in the book, which the book could be seen as the operating system of Wonderland. Plus, the OS is generally found in the "C" drive.
      The field spell reference could be what the pedia says it is- a reference to cybercrime and ways of getting your hands on viruses, hacking tools, and malicious software.
      There are other references in some of the other comments, like one mentions "Alice" in general.

  • @theskullboy8700
    @theskullboy8700 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +56

    Your feelings for her, are not real
    Maliss players: THEY ARE REAL TO ME!!!!

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Force Awakens reference is based :)

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We were cheated when Disney took over 😭

    • @snaker_574
      @snaker_574 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@pk_tuneworldforce unleashed 2

    • @Reaper2127.
      @Reaper2127. 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@pk_tuneworld isn't that a forced unleashed 2 quote?

  • @captinBattleship
    @captinBattleship 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    Two things:
    1. The fact that, at time of it's releasd, white rabbit is the most expensive monster means you are literally chasing a white rabbit to play this archetype will always bring a grin to my face.
    2. You mention that they made this archetype like a typical seasonal anime but I think the coding/malware aesthetic the archetype disproves this. I know you said you weren't going to look into that aspect, but the fact they're malware adds the additional spice to make it interesting. I'm not a computer science major or hacker but looking at the characterizations of the extra deck red queens in particular makes sense why one is ransom and the other is cryptic.

    • @Practitioner_of_Diogenes
      @Practitioner_of_Diogenes 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The "cryptic" is more a play on bits of code that encrypt bits of code... which sometimes can hide viruses.

    • @Black_Revue
      @Black_Revue 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I bought 6 OCG BOXES and only got 1 White Rabbit...You have No idea how BS getting a Playable set is

  • @needledealer9971
    @needledealer9971 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    16:22 The reference of TB-11 is actually three blasts as in "White Rabbit blew three blasts on the trumpet". Funnily enough it's usually the main target for White Rabbit. It's effect could symbolize the arrival of a new maliss monster, like how white rabbit announced the queens arrival

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had believed it referenced "Twinkling begins with a 'T'" since the card focused on Hearts Crypter as opposed to Rabbit. But I don't doubt you could be correct. It is true TB-11 is commonly grabbed off of White Rabbit. And, even though I associate Crypter's presence as a hint towards the trial, the fact the card looks almost like a coronation scene supports your idea.

  • @kuriwashere
    @kuriwashere 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    American McGees truly knew how to portrait Alice and her Wonderland in a Grim universe ❤

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love the game to death so would be inclined to agree. Need to replay it one of these days...

  • @catowarmeowson9964
    @catowarmeowson9964 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    "I'm going to Maliss"

  • @jarmandog413
    @jarmandog413 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    6:48 “or tour guide to the scarm you’ll inevitably forget in the end phase”
    I feel called out.

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Me too, me too...

  • @direYGO
    @direYGO 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +41

    very good video! though i would like to offer a bit of feedback, for the zoom ins on the card art its clear you used one of those online upscalers, and i think it lessens the quality of the video making the card art look blurred and sloppy, and if you used the original size it would look too pixelaed, i think a better sollution would be using the original card art at a size where it looks good, and having a blurred duplicae of it behind it, adding a drop shadow to the main card art to have a sense of depth

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      Appreciate the advice, Dire! You are right - I did admittedly use an upscaler so that the photos weren't too blurry when I full-screened them. Some people had made the same comment on the Shaddoll/Noid lore video I made a month ago, but I didn't think the matter was too concerning then. It seems though that a lot of people would prefer the original art, and I could try your suggestion for the next video I'm currently working on (no spoilers :P).

    • @KidInari
      @KidInari 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Dire

    • @Meme-pg5tw
      @Meme-pg5tw 47 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      thank you for this dire i am glad more people mentioned the ai upscaler really messing with the video

  • @freestyleninja1788
    @freestyleninja1788 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I personally love mad hacker and think it is overlooked on how it is included in the maliss archetypes art but glad it was mentioned here great work ! and is the mad hatter so a fine addition to my deck 😁

  • @MikeMozzaro
    @MikeMozzaro 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    Interesting video for sure.
    Though I have to say: I'd also be interested to hear how the coding/programing aspects of the Maliss cards work in regard to how those parts reference to the story as well.

    • @joseleonardofarfanperez2838
      @joseleonardofarfanperez2838 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The most of what I can think can be the relation is that the "rabbit hole" is a metaphor for "back door", a hacking technique. And the fact that the field spell says underground could reference black market where "Alice" is a hacker that hacks for money and info

    • @Demon0no
      @Demon0no 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      The references to malware is mostly in the names.
      Red Ransom -> Ransomware (a type of malware)
      Hearts of Crypter -> Crypter (also a type of malware)
      White Binder -> Binder (Software used to hide malware)
      Also the fact that in cryptography you usually use the name Alice to name an entity in an exchange.
      Also they all are cyberse.
      And don't forget the honorary archetype member Mad Hacker.
      Maybe the fact that they return from banish and bring friends also alludes to the fact, that it's hard to remove malware, because not only does it may come back but where there is one malware, there might be more.
      But yeah, I'd also wanna watch a video like this, but for the hacker side of this deck.

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@joseleonardofarfanperez2838 or "Underground" could refer to the dark web.

    • @Practitioner_of_Diogenes
      @Practitioner_of_Diogenes 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Demon0no There's a lot more to it.
      The main deck monsters also reference viruses that have appeared over the years, as well as the angle brackets (, , ) are references to programming.

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The more immediate replies to this comment know more than me LOL
      If Maliss gets more cards, will consider revisiting that other side of the archetype. Was selfish for this video and just wanted to talk about Alice in Wonderland.

  • @iv5480
    @iv5480 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    Honestly I made a fun deck called maliss in gunderland (a mostly rokket involved deck) and it’s not bad actually fun in fact

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I like the name LOL - curious how the two actually mesh together.

    • @iv5480
      @iv5480 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ honestly I feel like Maliss is like a deck that can work by itself and the rokkets definitely mesh especially if you’ve got the support and I only have one copy of the white rabbit and the mouse but two of the cat so it’s not too bad

  • @wallycastagnir
    @wallycastagnir 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    im going to malice

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Black Cybersouls

    • @clawsshotter
      @clawsshotter 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm going to Malice

    • @thorium9
      @thorium9 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Where is Malice?

    • @tunnelingkiller4677
      @tunnelingkiller4677 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Wish Grand Guignol was in this archetype too 😔

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tunnelingkiller4677 would be cool but isn't it completly unrelated to Alice in Wonderland? I guess we could say Despia is the grand guinol of yugioh?

  • @juju5768
    @juju5768 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Just looked at the red and white queens and, did you notice the red points down as she looks down on everyone, while the white one points up as she looks up to Alice to help help her ?,

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I really like this comment! I did mention in the video that Ransom points downwards and Binder points upwards. I only inferred, however, that this alluded to the concept of mirrors emphasized in "Through the Looking Glass". It's cool to think the arrows might also reflect how the Red Queen and White Queen interacted with their subjects as you are saying.

  • @yume6423
    @yume6423 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Black Souls reference in a children card game 😱😱😱

  • @joshuataylor7443
    @joshuataylor7443 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    0:13 you make that sound like a bad thing

    • @duelme1234
      @duelme1234 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I can't even tell if that's a joke or not. The "shifter" part alone is bad enough ignoring the first part.

  • @Ragnarok540
    @Ragnarok540 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    In MBTs intro skit for the TMT video on Maliss he claims this archetype also references computer viruses, specifically early viruses. This wasn't mentioned here so that's something to explore on a future video. Anyway, this was really high quality and informative, thanks!

  • @Panda_kabob
    @Panda_kabob 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video my dude

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for choosing to watch it :D

  • @Shadowrulzalways
    @Shadowrulzalways 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The name “Malice” is definitely a reference to the dark comic of the same name.

  • @Thos_Draken
    @Thos_Draken 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another thing to ask is where's the Caterpillar? You know, the supposedly wise one that has a conversation weather on top of a giant Mushroom. As for the actual character Alice, I think it's to be presumed.You're the character

    • @butterfree971
      @butterfree971 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      i think he would be the last main deck member, which will be introduced in ALIN according to the leak

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Oh, there are plenty of missing cards that could be added for certain iconic characters. Caterpillar, sure. But we could get the Mock Turtle, the Gryphon, Tweedle Dee/ Tweedle Dum, Humpty Dumpty, the White Knight - Konami has a ton of source material to draw from. Though, Caterpillar might be more interesting than some of these.

    • @pedrorosa3300
      @pedrorosa3300 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@butterfree971WERE are the leaks

  • @XxSakFexX
    @XxSakFexX 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Madness Return... Bro You just made a sub 👍

  • @pagananarchist4723
    @pagananarchist4723 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A cyberse archetype that focuses around banishing monsters? Sounds interesting. I wonder how well they could potentially mesh with other cyberse archetypes, like Marincess and Code Talkers

  • @leoaltivez7161
    @leoaltivez7161 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Nice hyperbole title to lure viewers

  • @dylanchambers5077
    @dylanchambers5077 8 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    so we got engines, and Alice in wonderland in the same set. Pretty neat

  • @theonlyafropuff
    @theonlyafropuff 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    7:17 YES someone acknowledged him!!

  • @lefteron6804
    @lefteron6804 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I only just noticed that cat's tail ends in a usb. Also doirmouse has a tea set around her.

  • @KidInari
    @KidInari 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’m a huge fan of Alice in Wonderland. I grew up watching the 1951 film by the man and the mouse, and loved the interaction between Alice and Sora in Kingdom Hearts. The artwork of the cards are very unique and are designed pretty well. It’s a shame that it got the waifu tax, but it’s still very good. Tho I might not be playing it this format, I have to give the artist and the players a lot of respect. But because of how expensive the deck is, I’ll take my cheap lvl 10 scales monsters

  • @jakeblancaster8498
    @jakeblancaster8498 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I suspect the Maliss Arctype's newer support to consists mostly of Monsters and Traps.

    • @GrEEnF1Re1
      @GrEEnF1Re1 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      2 maliss leaked cards already, main deck moster and a spell card

    • @ccc2839
      @ccc2839 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@GrEEnF1Re1 wait any link please?

  • @RioniXIV
    @RioniXIV 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    DOOR MOUSE

  • @C-M-4ever
    @C-M-4ever 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    They look hot

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Very hot

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anyone watching Alice in borderland

  • @Ai-Saika
    @Ai-Saika 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just got MY White Rabbit collector rare, looking to get the other at the start of 2025!
    Also WATING on the NEW P.U.N.K Deck since its getting support so CANT WAIT!!!!
    Happy X-Mas, New Years and Holidays btw!!!!

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Weirder than Qliphorts?

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ngl, after having spent some time reading Duel Terminal lore for other videos I was working on, I feel like the Qliphorts aren't too strange. They may look a little funky, but the whole concept of a planet having a back-up program to purge the surface in the advent of a planet-ending threat isn't too rare in Sci-Fi. But, also, the title is partially clickbait :P

  • @WorstofTrishula
    @WorstofTrishula 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    KONAMI WAIFU BAIT GRINDSET

  • @Chaosweaver19
    @Chaosweaver19 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Agreed love this arkatype and the set is wold to crossover breakers we are crossing over and break8ng into book caraters

  • @cythebunny
    @cythebunny 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait I throught it was a chess

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      So, it is true that the letters in the "" of the monster card's names are abbreviations for "pawn" and "queen". This likely references the fact that "Through the Looking Glass" focuses on chess + characters like the White Queen/ Red Queen (Yugioh has them as White Binder/ Red Ransom) are chess pieces. Nonetheless, the original "Alice in Wonderland" emphasized playing cards since the Queen of Hearts and her soldiers are based off of different suits (and were portrayed as actual playing cards).

  • @aarona5111
    @aarona5111 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe we were alice all along.
    Haha called it

  • @AnotherWindaSimp
    @AnotherWindaSimp 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can I have a loan to buy 3 copies of each Maliss card to be happy? Thank you

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was going to ask you for the loan...?

  • @solairefan5420
    @solairefan5420 23 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Where is Alice?

  • @mr.zluxsd539
    @mr.zluxsd539 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    SHE IS REAL TO ME

  • @duelist4512
    @duelist4512 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Speedroid Video when?

  • @Meme-pg5tw
    @Meme-pg5tw 47 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    really good video, idk how i wasnt subscribed but again the ai upscaler is extremely obvious and takes away my focus from the video

  • @theunknownshadowish
    @theunknownshadowish 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bit of feedback, I know many older yugi players play mtg (me included)
    Buuut I don't think using mtg terminology works well. For example you mentioned Maliss p "tutors out" a trap card..... Yeea... That's not a yugi term

  • @ifrit420
    @ifrit420 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm going to (M)ALice.

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah they all aren’t real. Getting tired of the anime girl archetypes.

  • @sajjad6387
    @sajjad6387 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Where is the punk video? ://

  • @awanama4565
    @awanama4565 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    would

  • @BenjamimaLP
    @BenjamimaLP 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dotscaper is the Hare 😮

  • @lorenbrown7100
    @lorenbrown7100 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To bad for malice players long live odd eyes supremacy and if odd eyes won’t get he job done triple negates with speedroids and clear wings should be fun and if I feel like stealing monster good old predapower if only phantom knight got more ed support

  • @Luna-Starfrost
    @Luna-Starfrost 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I correct that for you: Yugioh's Worst Archetype. There, thank me later.
    It might be a bit overexaggerated, but it's deffo *one of* the worst! Like any other deck that plays Shifter. I don't care how Maliss uses this toxic bs card, I don't care about the artworks or it's lore. It uses shifter, it doesn't belong in the game. That alone puts it amongst the worst together with all the other crap like Kashtira, Tenpai, Floo, etc.
    With all that being said, nice video. As always. Loving your channel.

    • @pk_tuneworld
      @pk_tuneworld  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      I don't know, hating a deck because it can play Shifter is kinda weird. So many decks in this game could play Shifter if they wanted to. Decks like Myutant, Ultra Athlete, and Weather Painter don't see the light of day - they're actually hella rogue (if not worse). But they can play Shifter (and oftentimes do). Does that make them decks to hate on? In my eyes, no; they're just using a good card to stay relevant. Why not just hate Shifter itself as opposed to the decks that use it? Unless, of course, you hate parts of those decks that also use it (i.e., if you dislike Kashtira because they can banish your key cards, that's fair).
      Maliss is incredibly sick IMO. First "midrange" deck we've had in a while; combos are convoluted, so you can show skill expression through your plays; and (in my eyes) it's not outright unbeatable unlike the boards Snake-Eyes was making last format. It also just hard loses to Lancea. It's a shame Maliss is so expensive because I think a lot of people would actually enjoy it if they had the chance to sit down and play with it.
      I don't blame you for disliking the deck. I admit I'm also biased - though I don't own the deck, I've tested it quite a bit and, obviously, love the Alice in Wonderland inspiration. But I feel like there's more to judging a deck than whether or not it can play Shifter.

    • @adamking5563
      @adamking5563 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Dude you people and your whining about shifter is so annoying. Like you've had how many years to learn to counter it? Quit sounding like whiney little sissies. I bet you are that same dude that played Tear ishizu back in the day and called it "Fair".

    • @Luna-Starfrost
      @Luna-Starfrost 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @pk_tuneworld The thing is, Shifter is not a card that you "have as an option" like so many others. Generally said, every deck could play Shifter because technically thats how it works. Youre free to put in every (legal) card into your deck, if it works or not.
      But Maliss is a deck that can "actually play" shifter, as in not killing itself with it. Cause that the thing, Dimension Shifter is one of the most problematic cards ever, I'd argue its even worse than Maxx C. It's interesting that you say that Maliss "hardloses" to Lancea. I hope that you know that Lancea is literally hard countered by Shifter, since you cannot resolve it under Shifter. Even if you go first, your opponent can activate Shifter in response to Lancea and thereby simply turn it off as well as your graveyard. So, hope that you either have the one-off Called by the Grave or that you have one of the few decks that effectively can play Crossout. Those are only if you go first obviously. If your opponent goes first and Shifters you then.. Well, good luck. Theres currently not a single card in the entire game that you can activate against that.
      Decks that can play Shifter are problematic simply for this very card. I' GLAD that this deck is overpriced as hell, not gonna lie. If it was cheap, then it would be like Floo was at some point, the typical fun killer for any "smaller" tournament. If you play the actual game outside of Master Duel, then you definetely know what I mean by going to a tournament with 5 rounds and only actually playing 1 or maybe 2 of said 5 rounds.
      As for the comparison with Snake-Eyes, I know that has little meaning but I gotta be honest, I never knew what people disliked about Snake-Eyes. It's endboards, even with Apollousa around were absolutely laughable, the only thing it had going for itself was really good Stamina and being a notorious Handtrap spammer. Same goes for Maliss, it's Endboards are a joke except under Shifter. But thats not Maliss being good then but Shifter being simpl, busted, which is the entire problem with this deck, it's carried simply by this card. I tested a lot with it myself as I initially fell in love with the decks premise and mostly it's lore but when I realised that it's another Exo-Sister situation where the deck relies completely on one busted card to stand around.. Bluargh.

    • @slimshady7437
      @slimshady7437 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      While I agree (in sentiment, you weren't kidding when you said you might be exaggerating) that shifter is a frustrating card, I feel like if the only way those decks had to have a macro cosmo effect was, you know, macro cosmo, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If shifter applied a "Gozen Match" or "Rivalry" like effect, you wouldn't hate monotribe decks this much just because they can play it, would you? It's just an issue of an unbalanced card.
      In addition, those decks are only marginally pushed by Shifter (at least the most relevant ones): Kashtira and Floo have been oppressive decks even without shifter in the equation (ironically, and sadly, all thanks to other lockdown effects), same for Ritual Beast while it was never as widespread as the previous two, and Tenpai has topped time and time again without it. None of them would drastically change their place in the power scale without shifter (emphasis on drastically, off they would lose a win button).
      Also, I'm not sure what you mean by Shifter counters Lancea. While both effects are applying, Lancea wins and cards can't be banished, and since Lancea just tributes itself it can be used while shifter is already active. Do you simply mean that since shifter lasts 2 turns, you might lose a turn just like the maliss deck just lost one under lancea? I'm curious of what you mean.

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Luna-StarfrostYou can activate Gamma and Orange Light against Shifter dropped by your opponent when they go first.
      The hysterical thing about Shifter is that it would probably be less toxic if it banished the cards face-down.