Just a few questions off the top of my head: 1. You weren't swirling hydro in either the Yelan/Sucrose or XQ/no-burst Kaz setups, right? Just making sure I didn't miss anything. 2. Is XQ's E being used after Q just for the C4 buff? I've always considered that neligible outside of National teams so I just do E>Q to save ever so slightly on time spent catching particles (he's the only one who needs them anyways). 3. I'm not sure where it saw it exactly (think it was on Jstern disc) but someone mentioned that just waiting on Bennett before using his tap E took about the same time as no wait + C4 hold E (basically letting the remaining hydro from Yelan Q fully decay). I'd have to check to make sure, but it would just mean that C4 Bennett isn't entirely necessary, nothing more. 4. I'm assuming the reason why you make note of a different setup for CMS Arle with Yelan/Xilonen is that, without it, you don't have enough BoL to do the extended 3N5D combo and thus there's some rotation downtime where you might as well spend driving on Yelan for a bit? Hopefully this question makes sense. 5. So 6N3D (at least for non-CMS Arle) is still preferable over N3C 2N5D N3 in mono-pyro/overload? Just down to a matter of output vs rotation length? 6. Was the Citlali swap necessary for sustaining melts? I couldn't tell if her E would've done the job on the 3rd N3.
1: Yes that is correct. Xingqiu Kazuha no burst gets a hydro swirl at the very end of the rotation but if you want one on the first rotation, you have to deliberately miss a normal attack with Kazuha so you trigger the swords, and do his hold E while still at a distance because if you’re too close, the orbitals will apply hydro. Which can still happen if Kazuha is against enemies that can be yanked off their feet with his hold E 2: Yes Xingqiu E after Q is for his C4 but it’s also a time filler. With a CD of 21s, Xingqiu teams need a little bit of filler in order to wait out the CD. Ofc, if you think you can kill an enemy in 1 rotation then by all means, just skip that and do EQ but if not then this the optimized rotation (you can also gamble and use Sac sword because it can cut the rotation down to 18s if you get the proc but not the second skill. He just needs like 220 ER to make up for no Fav particles) 3: Waiting is an option but you’d have to wait around a couple seconds longer than using his C4 in order for hydro to decay and remove itself completely before Bennett applies pyro with his E. I’ve listed an alternative setup in the desc in case someone doesn’t have C4, or just wishes not to do that. It comes at the cost of some damage lost though because Yelan burst expires before Arles last N3 4: Yea I understand that question. All rotations are optimized for non CMS with each being 18 hits total, but the teams that can take advantage of CMS extra bond WITHOUT extending the rotation time are Xingqiu Kazuha no burst, and Yelan Xilonen. Since these teams have some kind of filler in the setup (Xingqiu QN1EN2 and Yelan QEN3), you can skip both of these to do EQ and give Arle enough time to perform the extended combo. It both frontloads dps since Arle can come on field sooner, and increases dpr with the longer combo 5: As said above, all rotations were done with non CMS bond in mind. So N3C 2N5D N3E is better than 6N3D even in Mono and OL because of its higher multiplier total unless Arle is C1 or if you have enough time to do one last N1 before swapping out. The latter isn’t too hard to do because you can see me finish both rotations with half a second left on her skill, but I wanted to make everything uniform incase people use these combos for optimizer purposes 6: Yes the swap was necessary. The thing about the swap is you can argue that you can just wait for cryo to reapply, but since Arle applies pyro at a faster rate than Citlali applies cryo, the swap also acts as a bit of a way to stall Arle for long enough so she can do the last 3N3Ds without waiting. If you attacked the moment after Citlali applies cryo, the 5th N3D will start before Citlali has the chance to apply cryo. In some cases, the 2.5s icd will be over and you may end up applying pyro 2 hits in a row. The swap prevents this by stalling long enough for the 3 hit rule and the 2.5s icd rule to align on the same hit I hope all that made sense
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Just a few questions off the top of my head:
1. You weren't swirling hydro in either the Yelan/Sucrose or XQ/no-burst Kaz setups, right? Just making sure I didn't miss anything.
2. Is XQ's E being used after Q just for the C4 buff? I've always considered that neligible outside of National teams so I just do E>Q to save ever so slightly on time spent catching particles (he's the only one who needs them anyways).
3. I'm not sure where it saw it exactly (think it was on Jstern disc) but someone mentioned that just waiting on Bennett before using his tap E took about the same time as no wait + C4 hold E (basically letting the remaining hydro from Yelan Q fully decay). I'd have to check to make sure, but it would just mean that C4 Bennett isn't entirely necessary, nothing more.
4. I'm assuming the reason why you make note of a different setup for CMS Arle with Yelan/Xilonen is that, without it, you don't have enough BoL to do the extended 3N5D combo and thus there's some rotation downtime where you might as well spend driving on Yelan for a bit? Hopefully this question makes sense.
5. So 6N3D (at least for non-CMS Arle) is still preferable over N3C 2N5D N3 in mono-pyro/overload? Just down to a matter of output vs rotation length?
6. Was the Citlali swap necessary for sustaining melts? I couldn't tell if her E would've done the job on the 3rd N3.
1: Yes that is correct. Xingqiu Kazuha no burst gets a hydro swirl at the very end of the rotation but if you want one on the first rotation, you have to deliberately miss a normal attack with Kazuha so you trigger the swords, and do his hold E while still at a distance because if you’re too close, the orbitals will apply hydro. Which can still happen if Kazuha is against enemies that can be yanked off their feet with his hold E
2: Yes Xingqiu E after Q is for his C4 but it’s also a time filler. With a CD of 21s, Xingqiu teams need a little bit of filler in order to wait out the CD. Ofc, if you think you can kill an enemy in 1 rotation then by all means, just skip that and do EQ but if not then this the optimized rotation (you can also gamble and use Sac sword because it can cut the rotation down to 18s if you get the proc but not the second skill. He just needs like 220 ER to make up for no Fav particles)
3: Waiting is an option but you’d have to wait around a couple seconds longer than using his C4 in order for hydro to decay and remove itself completely before Bennett applies pyro with his E. I’ve listed an alternative setup in the desc in case someone doesn’t have C4, or just wishes not to do that. It comes at the cost of some damage lost though because Yelan burst expires before Arles last N3
4: Yea I understand that question. All rotations are optimized for non CMS with each being 18 hits total, but the teams that can take advantage of CMS extra bond WITHOUT extending the rotation time are Xingqiu Kazuha no burst, and Yelan Xilonen. Since these teams have some kind of filler in the setup (Xingqiu QN1EN2 and Yelan QEN3), you can skip both of these to do EQ and give Arle enough time to perform the extended combo. It both frontloads dps since Arle can come on field sooner, and increases dpr with the longer combo
5: As said above, all rotations were done with non CMS bond in mind. So N3C 2N5D N3E is better than 6N3D even in Mono and OL because of its higher multiplier total unless Arle is C1 or if you have enough time to do one last N1 before swapping out. The latter isn’t too hard to do because you can see me finish both rotations with half a second left on her skill, but I wanted to make everything uniform incase people use these combos for optimizer purposes
6: Yes the swap was necessary. The thing about the swap is you can argue that you can just wait for cryo to reapply, but since Arle applies pyro at a faster rate than Citlali applies cryo, the swap also acts as a bit of a way to stall Arle for long enough so she can do the last 3N3Ds without waiting. If you attacked the moment after Citlali applies cryo, the 5th N3D will start before Citlali has the chance to apply cryo. In some cases, the 2.5s icd will be over and you may end up applying pyro 2 hits in a row. The swap prevents this by stalling long enough for the 3 hit rule and the 2.5s icd rule to align on the same hit
I hope all that made sense
Timestamps:
0:44 overload (Fischl/ Bennett/ Chevreuse)
1:12 Yelan Sucrose (Yelan/ Sucrose/ Bennett)
1:40 Xingqiu Kazuha (Xingqiu/ Kazuha/ Bennett)
2:07 Xingqiu Kazuha alternative (same team)
2:37 Yelan Kazuha (Yelan/ Kazuha/ Bennett)
3:01 Yelan Kazuha alternative (same team)
3:30 Furina Kazuha (Furina/ Kazuha/ Bennett)
3:59 Mono pyro (xilonen/ Kazuha/ Bennett)
4:27 Yelan Xilonen (Yelan/ xilonen/ Bennett)
4:56 Furina Xilonen (Furina/ Xilonen/ Bennett)
5:23 Citlali Xilonen (Citlali/ Xilonen/ Bennett)
No Asimons were harmed during the making of this video
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This video changed my life.
The notes on Furina teams are hilarious lmao
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Am I speechless because Furina is that good? Or am i speechless because there’s nothing good to say about Furina?
Arle goat is here
This video is beautiful. thank you Bepis, glad to see you made it out of the mental asylum xiao put you in😂
I’m glad I give the impression that I made it out, and not that I’m still stuck
Why is the abyss malder doing guides
to show his appreciation for arle for saving him from xiao
Bro help me to decide, C3 stuff of homa or should i go with c2r1
C2 R1
i already have staff of homa i am very confused who to pull for arle or mavuika?
Whichever one you like. Mavuika is better than Arle assuming you have Xilonen but both characters obliterate abyss
arlecchino in the big '25 🥱