Joel David Hamkins: The Math Tea argument-must there be numbers we cannot describe or define?

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  • @NikolajKuntner
    @NikolajKuntner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this.
    I find myself coming back to that MO post on the definability definability every now and again.
    :)

  • @NoNTr1v1aL
    @NoNTr1v1aL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely amazing video! Could you please suggest books on mathematical logic specifically in the work of Saharon Shelah and Hrushovski?

    • @drewduncan5774
      @drewduncan5774 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Set Theory by Thomas Jech.

  • @davidtaffs9370
    @davidtaffs9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suspect (infinite) definitions are uncountable, you can map them one-to-one with real numbers. Of course finite definitions are finite.

  • @pmcate2
    @pmcate2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @12:50 you say that A not being periodic implies Leibnizian. But doesn't the inclusion of < with the usual interpretation already suffice? Also, how is definability affected by infinitary logic? For whatever reason my intuition is that languages allowing countably long sentences could have point-wise definability for models with cardinality of the reals, but for models of greater size there would still be undefinable elements. Also, @21:32 by V do you mean the von Neumann universe?

    • @LaureanoLuna
      @LaureanoLuna ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Addressing your first question; consider that the only nonlogical symbols of the language associated with the structure are "