Great Composers - Bach (BBC, 1997) - Part 7/7

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  • Mass in B Minor BWV 232 - Chorus ''Cum Sancto Spiritu'' (John Eliot Gardiner, English Baroque Soloists & Monteverdi Choir)
    Art of the Fugue BWV 1080 - Contrapunctus XIV (Joanna MacGregor)
    Mass in B Minor BWV 232 - Chorus ''Dona nobis pacem'' (John Eliot Gardiner, English Baroque Soloists & Monteverdi Choir)

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  • @Laura_B__
    @Laura_B__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this entire documentary very much. Thank you for uploading it!

  • @BachScholar
    @BachScholar 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ms. MacGregor makes the point that Bach died before completing this fugue. This is the popular belief, but as Wolff emphasizes in "The Learned Musician", it would have been impossible to compose a quadruple fugue without having first planning the final section where all the subjects are combined. Thus, Bach most likely did indeed finish the fugue, and the final portion has simply been lost rather than not completed.

  • @barrocke
    @barrocke 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot SoliDeoGloria8550 for post this greay great video, it made me cry, I don't know you in person but I love you. Thanks again !

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Point 2: Bach used the theme BACH in some compositions before that, the point is that was the first time he used as a subject of a fugue. In the video that is said with all words.

  • @ClaptonDennis
    @ClaptonDennis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good documentary, thanks a lot 🙂

  • @davidliverman4742
    @davidliverman4742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god Bach existed!!!

    • @berulan8463
      @berulan8463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And God may be glad that Bach exists, so there's someone who can show the beauty of his creation in such a wonderful way.

  • @BachScholar
    @BachScholar 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree. I have found BACH several times before this final fugue. A good example is in the unfinished fugue BWV 906. The countersubject uses the motive (m. 3-4) although transposed. Also, Contrapuncti 8 and 11 use BACH extensively in all its permutations.

    • @BenEmberley
      @BenEmberley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you listen to his Brandenburg Concerto No.2, you can hear it in the Bass line of the 1st Mvt

  • @Jimyblues
    @Jimyblues 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting this... Well done... I'd like to recommend Anthony Newman's Brandenburgs. The ornamentation is superb, unlike any others, just a tip.

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an extended review of Bach's music, yet they barely touched on Bach's absolute mastery of instrumental counterpoint via his instrumental works. No other classical musician could claim to be the undisputed master of his particular form other than Bach, and his mastery of counterpoint. The WTCs, all the organ works, the Musical Offering, etc.

  • @BenEmberley
    @BenEmberley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last Chorus........

  • @BachScholar
    @BachScholar 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good point, if true. But how do you know Bach didn't have drafts?

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Itis known that Bach didn't have drafts of his compositions. Probably he knew how the fugue would finished with the superposition of the 4 subjects ( 3 or 4 subjects? )in the final section. I think he just didn't have time to transmite that from his head to the paper.

  • @neobass7030
    @neobass7030 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    if js bach can life another 10 years it will make more magnificient masterpiece.

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am reading the comments I did here 10 years ago and I disagree with all of trem. :) 10 years reading and studying Bach made a lot of improvment that I thought about Bach. The Christof Wolff thesis about why we didnt find the famous quadruple fugue finished is very plausible for me today. He finished the fugue, and because was probably blind in that time he dictated to someone, and that was lost, like a lot of obter Bach’s works were lost across the time.

  • @sesdeux
    @sesdeux 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @bootskevin
    @bootskevin 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe she meant that it was the first time B-A-C-H is used in the Art of Fugue.

  • @CoffinTrick
    @CoffinTrick 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think she means that it was the first time B-A-C-H was used as the subject of one of his fugues... i know he had snuck it in other things before but i dont think he ever used it as a subject until then

  • @KittensVarietyChannel
    @KittensVarietyChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else think the woman with the Afro-resembling hair is quite attractive?

  • @kevineduardomartinezreateg8939
    @kevineduardomartinezreateg8939 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    BACH GENIO DE GENIOS

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading the texts about him and because was not found . I don't think that Bach in a fugue to 4 voices would need some draft.
    Mozart had also few drafts, but he made some ones, sometimes. Beethoven for example was the oposite: had a lot of drafts. The drafts of the Symphony 9 have 900 pages! , I read once.

  • @lindasegerious9248
    @lindasegerious9248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is Donald Trump playing the trumpet at 1:26?

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    It´s very seducer and romantic to say Bach never used the |B A C H theme in a own composition before the famous Last Fugue, but in fact that is not true.
    Anyway, B A C H theme is not a tonal theme. I Mean, it doesn't sounds like a tonal motiv. The composer have to have a lot skill to becoming into a tonal one, and more, a tonal subject of a baroque fugue.

  • @softmoth4428
    @softmoth4428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Trump? More like Trump-et @7:59

  • @cubanbach
    @cubanbach 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheSlily -h