Vybz Kartel Ruling Discussion
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This when personal feelings meets justice
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How? Explain further!
@@kattahb4103ask DPP Paula she said she’s not a fan of vybz kartel she represent justice.
@@aaronwilliams7543 Guess Im in my personal feelings then ..cause neither am I!
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Very intelligent woman,spoken very well so all can understand
The phone that was suppose to be in evidence was not just searched. That officer took the phone home with him from the evidence room and used it as his personal phone , and it was proven that more was done with the phone , to include using a certain machine to mess with the text messages on the phone. The police man then brought the phone back and placed it back in the evidence room. They knew about it and the judge asked him, why did he do it and he said , his own phone was out of minutes. 😮😮😮 That same phone was still accepted into evidence and used as main evidence to secure a conviction. Think about that.
I've been saying it for a while now. This case has way too much error, not just one but many, my G stay outta these basterds hands they'll do anything to put away a man who has strong influence on the population.
I did have respect, sir P but listen him talk about vybz kartel a not talk about this about the phone show me clearly that he too got personal issue with the artist. and I listen that respect for him. Kartel is my artist. What if he do the crime he should do the time Yeah but we clearly see is was not about the murder, because they try to do everything to convict him shame and sad it’s just wickedness.
@@jentrelyfrankson6829 why do y'all keep calling this man's name on my platform? Do y'all ever hear me call his name ??? I am told by a lot of people he says all kinds of things about me and yet I never visit is content or ever speak on him. It's a strategy they use. Talk about who has a good and growing platform and the people will come to hear you. Stop using my name for promotions and disrespecting me at the same time but I guess to all the low vibrational people BEEF SELLS , bring down and disrespect sells , SMH... Leave that name off my platform fam.
Soulflotv, I have a question , is this your platform ? My thought was you made a comment and persons responded.i stand to be corrected
@@Annspencer1206 Your question made no sense. What were you trying to get at exactly?
This woman is fantastic. Really knowledgeable, with her points well-explained.
Wow, they allowed someone to continue on jury even though he attempted to bribe the other jurors. But afterwards the juror was convicted of bribery. If you planned on prosecuting the juror. Why allow him to continue?
Because the law at that time a murder trial cannot continue with less than 11 jurors. One lady from the 12 had already been gone leaving 11. So cutting off the bribing juror would have been against the law. So they kept him.
@@davidpaul5711What happen to that one lady who left? was she scared?
@@bustapuppyshe was threatened
It is worthy to note as well.... that the Defense Lawyers DID NOT Object to the tainted juror continued participation.... the Defense FIRST raised it when the matter reached the JAMAICAN Court of Appeal!!
@@wayneanthony1089 yes they agreed in the judges chambers to continue
This is an embarrassment for Jamaica. I know the case was a super long case but they should’ve called a mistrial and then retry the case after seeing the corrupt juror and contaminated evidence circumstances that happened to taint the trial
They also violated his rights. Intercepting kartel phone and network provider. Corrupted people judging others. That's crazy, further more there's no real interest of justice. DONT WASTE OUR TAXES.
They were rushing to send them to prison any mean necessary
People were gathering outside the courts celebrities were coming from oversease they needed take a decision before chaos erupted and they had evidence he did it.
The state made a mess of them selves
@@delonthomas5049 The defence team made a mess by bribing the jury.
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Their is no justice system in Jamaica
Sad😢
No justice but injustice
'There'
@@davidpaul5711 sorry it's because i was walking whilst i was texting,thanks for the correction
None whatsoever!!!..it just took Kartel to enlightened the bogus system…..
FREE vybes Kartel
Accused!! They are not convicted ..
😂😂😂 cry me a river 😂😂
@@ABPOW6FACTS not about crying
That is it world 🌍 boss to the world.
Serious situation ...they are not saying kartel guilty or innocent they are looking into the situation of the jury....
Dion dem a dunce. The Prosecutions has no evidence for a retrial and no one believe the retrial is in interest of justice and nobody in Jamaica will support the government wasting our taxes to continue fighting Kartel. Their will be a massive outrage in Jamaica if they attempt a real trial. Additionally we demand Paula to resign!
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Yes
Lets just done with this hole thing.
Why? Dunce you will see when he loss this retrial 😂😂🤣 back inside for the 60year.
There was no retrial @@themosthigh1075
What do you mean?. Please explain 😂
Free da boss 💯
Dion thick
Yf😂
Dion should get paid to ware that dress.
Looks like she not hiking enough Sah.
You see it too
Think a me alone see it 😂
Watching all the way from florida. If I may say they need to release my brother from prison he has a city to run. I'm homeless over twenty years and waiting on disability check while keeping up from time to time with his case and one time he released then he lock up then he waiting on appeal then he get the appeal. The news team dem all got some ting different. Take care everyone.
UK COURT RULING SHOWED FLAWS IN ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IN THE CASE
What was the flaws ?
@@Jr-me2lzcorrupt govt who just wanted to get rid of kartel any means cause
@@Jr-me2lzcorruption
@@tpslando a kartel lawyers a buy out the juri so hw it was a flaws ?
@@Jr-me2lz sometimes yall need to think before talking or commenting I should say was isat on kartel case when he was sentenced to life? Even if it’s kartel lawyers try to bribe the jury the judge still should cancel the juries that’s just the right thing to do I don’t know kartel personally so it’s no feelings the truth is just the truth
Quash done finish free ,simply
He is NOT free...NOT yet! If he was free he wouldn't still be in a jail cell! He is on his way to freedom...very sad, IMHO !
Retrial refers to the ability to take a case-usually a criminal case-to court again. This usually occurs after the conclusion of a previous trial, and can only take place under very specific circumstances. Retrial: A reexamination of the specific case in a court process.
Can you be tried twice if found not guilty?
At present the law does not permit a person who has been acquitted or convicted of an offence to be retried for that same offence - this risk of retrial is known as “double jeopardy”.
@@kattahb4103or you Paula? Or Paula daughter?
All a unuh sound dunce if all dem evidence fling out weh unuh a guh get fresh evidence fi a retrial if privy council a di highest court and it fling it out suh di hell di likkle court ago decide 😂😂dam educated fools unuh be
Did you fail to understand or are you just being a sheep? Not one of the pieces of evidence was thrown and wasn't even considered in the judgment of Quashed. All evidence will be admitted to the court if there's a retrial. I'm embarrassed for some of you delinquents 🤦🏾♂️
‼️‼️Thank you TVJ for this info, ‼️‼️... If your not guilty, why try to bribe jurys🤔🙄
Am trying to avoid this situation but it in my face am tired of the court case it need to get over
There is a lot to learn in this court case.
Who's watching 😮😮😮
Freedom🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thats it
Great insight
If them free Kartel them can free all Dons
My question to you all the high court of UK said it is squash that mean its fiinish over with so jamaica high court have to follow suit wth the same out come
Quashed doesn’t mean your innocent or guilty
Why is Milton giving credence to "gaza" as a place in Portmore, knowing it as no positivity. Smh. Shame on you Milton.
Free up kartel
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR A REAL TRIAL,IF THEIR IS THEY NEED A BAIL HEARING FOR BAIL
Thats a scary law! the jury are the ones who decide together if you are guilty so who is the one alone that can decide if you would have been found guilty if the jury messed up? Wouldn't that have to be another jury? so isn't that another trial? So their should be a trial to decide if there should be another trial? come on man.
Freedom is a Must the fact that over 12 years ago jurors moved on with their lives, left the country, the amount of frustration & resources required, it’s a wrap. ! Freedom is 💯 100 % guaranteed
Prat an Morgan was the nearest anty dee if mr sharp was still here he would tell you djm
He’s the hot topics for views .
Can you explain to the world how can a officer that has put items into evidence on a murder case can take the same evidence out of the evidence room that's supposed to be supervised so no tampering can take place, the same officer took evidence & tampered with still be allowed to be heard
Mi not working with them❤❤❤😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Just to who is it given the discretion of appointing a Jury? Does the accused have any say about this. Everything must be scrutinized, in ALL this process to insure a proper dispensation of "Justice"
A me alone notice the cheat code to buss a case? Try bribe a juror. 😏
The mobile phone was not an exhibition the Privy Council had leaned their judgement on. It was mainly the failings of the State which the Appeal Court if they had considered the case properly due diligence it would not have any reason to come to London. Where are the Experts in Jamaica Criminal Justice System? (The Higher Courts).
The eagerness of tampering is what makes the case strong against them in the eyes of the public. I feel if none of that happened this case would've been closed already.
The deadline to submit the findings of the forensic expert that determined the phone was in Fact tampered with was not met, and therefore the appeals court didn’t allow the report to be used as evidence for the defense, I am sure if they decided to do a retrial the report would be a major key of evidence for the accused, and that’s even if the phone records are allowed to be used against them. Being that the records were obtained illegally more than likely it would be tossed and wouldn’t be allowed in the case.
@@Gregoryml21 The expert was sourced by the defence lawyers. The state experts would have also examined the phone metadata tampering allegation and validated the allegedly illegally obtained reports from the accused service provider which may not be deemed strong enough to be tossed out. So many possibilities, lets just see.
@@Enzo575By probable cause, it seems this was an attempt to taint the trial by misconduct behaviour. To me, a police officer was compromised to do such act.
D privy council concern was the juror invlovment in bribry and if it was a fair trial,but what about the concrete eveidence the state have against the defendents
If the Jamaican public domain who are waiting see that after the English appellant Court distinguished the Case at hand and the Jamaican court system is not forthcoming we all are in problems.Not only who have axes to grind
Free kartel
Welcome to the retrial He will get credit for time served.😂😂
Free every other killers
You know you not your OWN country when another country gets say so in your judicial system and otherwise. I wonder if Jamaica has any say so when it comes to UK matters!!!!
So embarrassing for Jamaica police searching the phone thst should be locked away for evidence
Engineered the evidence
I don't get it. The police would have taken the phone after the date of the incident. The phone evidence is to obtain what communication was conducted during the days leading up to the time of the incident. Why would what was done with the phone after that is of any significant. The accuse was already lock up. These are just distractions, nothing of significance.
@@lintonnelsonWell said 👍....the issue of the phone was a smoke screen used by the Defense....note that the Privy Council totally IGNORED it!!
@@clicksdee9280I didn’t know you can engineer a video lol and kartel saying he’s going to kill someone
ai can mimic voice tbh, haven't you heard ai drake?@@thunderousbandit6679
I love this woman she is not afraid to speak her mind, and so she proves to be very brave.Looking good Dian it seems as if you are not getting any older and that's a blessing.❤🇯🇲
This is why corruption needs to be curtailed. Stop pampering with eveidence and let justice take its course.
So true 👍
My advice to mr Palmer if given another chance to life is to run run run as far away as possible and live the rest of your life in peace love and harmony some where quiet and remember to put God first Jamaica too much problem.
There will be no peace in his life
Run, run, run...where? Caan run from his conscience!
Murderers!
i wonder where lizard is running to now 🤔
@@bustapuppy Terrific Question!
@@kattahb4103 lol I seen you in another comment this show if you were Paula you would’ve been corrupt too
This verdict is a downright shame, embarrassment and disgrace to the Jamaican judicial system. Should not have gone this far. The case was not tried properly and his human rights were breached. Didn't expect the privy council to accept somebody like Kartel. Glad he fought for himself.
exactly
Whose human rights was breached? Give me a break! The only victim in this is the man who was murdered and his loved ones. Kartel or his agents brided that juror and paid that juror to bribe the others. No doubt the judge should’ve dismissed the jurors and jury but Kartell and his co-accused are not the victims.
Exactly
His human rights was Breached,snd the System corrupt,simple
Lizard's human right to life was breached.
That's why Jamaicans needs to keep the Privy Council this prove a very strong point , because the Jamaican courts by itself doesn't give Jamaicans any confidence
So what are you saying, kartel innocent ?
@@courtneybrown8155 y u suh dunce?
@courtneybrown8155 got out your feelings the justice system take oath
@@courtneybrown8155no he's saying our system is corrupted.
Its shocking to see the court will make mistakes and send ordinary Jamaicans to prison but there has never been a mistake in sending guilty politicians to prison.politicians are always "not guilty" Is it that, ummh, our justic system is unjust?
It was no mistake.
Was it a mistake or was it engineered by kartel lawyers?
Great job Deon. You are very good in your field and is able to break down legal matters so we can understand.
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When it comes to executing any form of justice, Jamaicans on a whole are in the mental state of just going by perception....Good judgement doesn't sit well within us. However, we're talking about Judges and prosecutors who should understand that they must be thorough in a court of law....They must follow the laws according to the books. Every Jamaican must have the basic knowledge of how the judicial system works and when it begins with regards to a case. The ppl must understand that the judicial process doesn't begin in the court, it begins once the crime has been committed, and so it's imperative that citizens stay clear of a crime scene before it has been processed. It is the norm in Ja. when something happens, for the citizens to invade the scene, touch and move things. Then the police officers/investigators often, do not take the time to properly extract and preserve crucial evidence needed to be presented to the courts. Then in the court, the prosecutors and the Judges do their own thing, sometimes overlooking key evidence. The whole system is just a mess...Chaka, Chaka! I think pride and laziness is our biggest downfall! No one wants to listen to anyone because everyone is trying to prove who's bigger and more powerful; and they can't be bothered because it's going to be too time consuming. Growing up, there were 2 sayings: "Short cut draws blood and the easy way works out to be the hardest." Now, it's going to be a lot of blood and sweat to go back through the process. They couldn't be bothered to pause to do it right the first time; now it's going to be twice as hard to resurrect evidence (if they're still available); find witnesses (if still alive, even); and a whole works of other crucial findings. I don't believe that they would want to throw this one out because they had some very compelling evidence to pursue justice. However, I can see something good coming out of this case. It's a huge lesson for everyone in the justice system to reform themselves, if everyone is willing to learn. Once we get our justice to work fairly for everyone, amid the crime and violence, I can see hope for our beautiful Jamaica!
Real talk!!!!!!
Not just the judges and prosecutors, it's also the defendants. The then Jamaica laws and legislation in trial by jury in court were allegedly manipulated in the disruption of justice by tainted jurors and compromised evidence. By cause of probability, this weighs in favour towards the defendants and their accusers.
Corruption in its highest
Yes
STOP misusing the word, "CORRUPT!"
The people who tried to to bribe the jury is currupt.
Its a loop hole in the legal system as bring the matter to the Privy council and try one s luck, which was granted, only issue of fair trial was examined at the Privy Court not the crime. The crime must have been comitted,
Sometimes I don't understand why Black people would accept a system where their cases are sent abroad to be judged for them. This implies a lack of trust in the judicial system of their country, and furthermore, shows a lack of respect for the judges in their country. Do you think a European or an American would be sent to Jamaica to be a judge? That would never happen. Black people fight for your rights and stop other race imposing unnecessary laws for your blessed country.❤❤❤
Court of appeal was clearly corrupt.
It’s scary because this means you can go to the court of appeal as a regular man and innocent and not win. Not to mention evidence tampering and jury bribery.
Very scary as many people won't be able to afford an appeal
Corrupted on the politicians them also,but in a Fearful Way,🚨🇯🇲😬😬
Even kartel was corrupt because if he wasn’t involve involved in certain thinks his name couldn’t be called
When he was in a war with mavado he wasn’t corrupt but as him get capture he is corrupt
No, it is not! Stop misusing the word "corrupt!"
Free the yute dem!! And go ahead and change amoi Issa for killing her son.. Jamaica justice system is a big joke.
Moomoo...wah u sey nuh mek no sense!
Foreign privy counsel see all 3 innocent that exact what they say
Dion is very beautiful and intelligent.
Exactly, what does that mean?
And body look dyam good to
I learn so much listening to this even though I watched it yesterday it’s seem like it’s the first I’m watching . Thanks very much Ms Jackson and you aging like fine red wine .
This woman has a body of a goddess!🤔🙏💝
9ether goddess she is 😍
All uno a fight the world boss uno just a mek uno self look more and more ignorant
Lol how? If the man kill the man… how is that fighting the world boss.
Me rate kartel too but me have sense.
😂😂😂 all of you in the justice system failed and still want the man to be in jail shame on you all smh free the man simple as that
Very smart and intelligent advocate...very intellectual man who knw the laws in and out !
Bless up your self..... Vybz..... You will be free..... GOD love you.... Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Waste of time and money
No, lots of things to learn , money well spent.
@jamaicanprincess4124 I mean if a retrail
Is Shebada Bert's pickney, dem sort of have a resemblance.
It could be you innocently cause ypu dont know if he did r did not
Shut your mouth he ain't innocent
Some a them lawyer money a cut them hand like pants pocket
Them want cartel money 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Thank you
@@anonymous...113well he got a lot that he can’t spend when he’s dead so nothing wrong with spending it to try get your freedom
They basically wash their hands off this case and send back kartel, to the mercy of the same people he is trying to escape form.
Suspicious She had fear for her son, why they had plan for a guilty verdict then, corruption from the beginning.
Corruption from the beginning because those jurors names should not be known & they threatened the son & she had to leave so it started off bad judge should change get new ppl close the court when picking jurors
Wah me wah know why the corrupt ago use $500k of his own money to bribe the rest of juror? Also how come them know that one juror has a son in prison to threaten him n her?
This lady is brilliant. She was on point with every thing she foresaw and and summarized
It's amazing the gall of these judges to act like this in 2024, they fail to realise we live in the age of information. All this injustice is broadcasted for the world to see
Especially in a high profile case like this. The F were they thinking smh
Crime and violence is not it but it’s about the evidences
This shows that Jamaica 🇯🇲 is not independent but British colonial countries.
You should not send that case back to England 🏴 if Jamaica 🇯🇲 don't believe in the judgment that they make in case, then they have to pay for their actions, of stupidity smile, ❤❤❤.
I cant believe they continued with the jury that was bribed, come on Jamaica do better
My understanding, the defense also gave the go ahead to continue with the tainted juror on the case. How could they then turn around and use it to get a hearing at the court of appeal?
That is exactly what I am saying too. If the defense lawyers were not in favor of the tainted juror to continue then they would have make a submission to the court for him to be removed. That is my argument as an individual who knows a bit about the law and the court system.
Why would they when they knew incase of a conviction it would be their trump card very slick move .
@@be-enlightened12 so they are corrupt as well then.🥱🥱
@@winstonrodney8800 what lawyer is not corrupt you get in trouble whether guilty or not would you find a pure lawyer or one who knows how to bend things in the favour of the defence even in the presence of the highest court we all are corrupt one way or another our justice system being corrupt is bad enuh but they are not wise hence they were outsmarted and humiliated. Whose side I'm on I don't know as I don't even know if these men are guilty or not but now we won't know for sure as our justice system is packed with lunatics. I'm just thinking what if it was a poor person as me who can't afford these lawyers I'd be screwed. But I have no way to be sure if these men were or were not guilty.
@@winstonrodney8800the defendant is task with defending themselves. Why would they stop the state or their enemy from shooting their ownselves?
How could there be so many issues with buffering. This is soo goddamn embarrassing. Why Jamaica still so bloody backward. Everything nerds to be fixed. Get it together guys. Come on man.
They send the case back to Jamaica to see the corruption and levels of unprofessionalism, the world is watching and we see how much unprofessionalism has surrounded this specific case from the beginning, could you imagine this happening to a regular citizen (not famous or rich).
It’s been awhile since I’ve seen Dian you’re looking great
To save the conduct of Jamaican Court you have to free the four freak on the jewelry how to get this mess
JUSTICE should not be ADVERTISING for the Lawyers but for the INJUSTIC
This case was definitely about human rights, justice and due process.
This case about this kartel is a Dam disgrace to over country
If the man is g.... then say it if not let him go and stop wasting taxpayer money
Yes i say it taxpayer money that can use on poor peopel or fix the Dam road
Your bandwidth is limited. Buffers are outdated. This is the age of streaming and 5G technology no need to buffer that’s the ninety’s technology.
What realize is that they looking on the case is an error in the jury ,so they are looking on the conviction is still valid
Exactly
The biggest issue is that a missing person without proof can not be considered dead. By this alone, the case shouldn't have even been considered. There must be valid prove of death, a body or DNA or video of the actual killing ( which would still need validation) not sure why they are even wasting time with this case that should've never been tried from the beginning.
Karel would not kill lizard in his house hd is wiser than that a parliament set him up because he was exposing them too much with their corruption
That criminal should stay in prison
Trying to get justice for a murderer and who was
killed , was a known gunman...!
Don't get me wrong it wasn't right to kill him.
But just saying
Very interesting...!
Gun man that kartel create he was kartel yes man
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The delay hurts the defendant who is sitting behind bars because of the court decision is wrong, JA don’t have a law on speedy trial??
The tainted jurors was one factor and that he didn’t have enough jurors to continue with so it should have been a mistake and they didn’t want to dismiss that jury
Even prisoners are gald kartel will be free!!🎉🎉🎉
Why ?
JA should have alternated jurors of 7 or more so that won’t have that, no defendant going to want judges to here there case over jurors
So true
This Tvj fi a do longtime