Seen so many movies with these ghost stations , you can always tell. I remember watching the construction of Bloor line with my grandfather in the early 60s
@@DrewRycerz Yes. I worked downtown , Front & Parliament. Used to take the subway frequently Also accidentally walk through many film shoots. Lol. RoboCop , Tommy Boy , Monk , Kung Fu . But heck I only had a half-hour for lunch. 🇨🇦
I was born in Toronto in 1961 and moved to Japan in 1998. I had no idea there were all these new lines. I wish that York University station was there when I went there. Thanks for the upload. It was interesting and exceptionally edited and narrated.
There are even more being proposed and being built in addition to this video as of 2021. We also have the ontario line coming and proposed waterfront and more scarborough LRT lines. Not to mention an extension of line 4. How long has it been since you’ve been back? I currently go to York and take the subway to get there so I am lucky (but it’s all i’ve known).
@@gordonbgraham man you're old mate just joking around 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a friend of mine visited Toronto in 2006 he said it felt like being in New York City with all the new train lines
Governments trying to redo transit in their image. Every time someone new gets elected, whether its provincial or local, they scrap the previous transit plans in favour of something they cooked up or to save money because god forbid public tax money is use to pay for public transit. Another problem is none of the elected officials are urban designs, transit planners or engineers so all their ideas tend to skew towards votes rather then whats best for the city.
And by the way even Sydney Australia has a much better transit system than Toronto!!! And they also add the metro lines like in Paris too! In some points, Australia seems to be doing better than Canada and I am ho eat with this as I used to live there a few years ago!!!
If they had done short extensions in the 90s like they did in the 70s, Toronto's subway system would have been much better. I've always hated how there was no subway connection between the two Line 1 corridors north of Bloor. That Sheppard subway should have extended to Sheppard West. Oh well.
I wished they put in more money on the Shepard line and instead of stopping at don mills, they went east all the way to uft Scarborough. Shepard line looks useless with only four stops.
There was a whole budget thing back when the Sheppard Subway was built, and it was supposed to be longer but they had to strip it down to only five stations. Part of the reason for that was because of the "State of good repair" program that was created after the 1995 subway crash. Basically means build new subways only when there is enough money to maintain the rest of the system properly.
sheppard subway should've went to sheppard west and scarborough town centre in the east. to provide a scarborough to north york crosstown subway without having to ride down to bloor to make a transfer. it would've alleviated congestion on sheppard from the buses that run there instead of a subway. instead it's pointless and a waste of money.
@@Humulator exactly. Its truly a miracle that the eglinton line wasn't cancelled. I just wished they had made it completely underground, because I still don't understand how are the lrt trains going to bypass all the traffic lights.
I'd love to see a "what if" scenario of what the TTC subway would look like if every planned/cancelled line and extension had actually gone through, and how it compares to what we have.
I have to say.. they are improving it, and I was shocked to see that from finch west to Humber college is going to be completed by 2023.. very impressive
still waiting for north scarborough and even markham TTC extensions. doubtful they ever get done. a Finch crosstown from East Scarborough to West North York is needed too
Some people don't seem to like that its elevated where the existing go train tracks is, but its really the best option cost wise as it uses existing infrastructure.
Transit takes forever to build in Ontario. You can have more Highways build outside the city before anything can be done. Vaughan extension environment engineering for 15 years before lay down the tracks. 1998 3 different routes. Government push back not enough for budget. Good luck. Toronto transportation is Toasted
What’s the Ont line ? I haven’t had a car for financial reason for the past ten years. I’ve lived outside Toronto since then and I can tell you. It’s hell !!! Just takes a Ridiculous amount of time to get places and horrible transfers. I now live in Guelph 🤦♀️. Even worse transit. I can’t even get to near by Kitchener without paying almost $20 and it takes an hour and a half. It’s a 15 min drive. To get to Toronto an hour drive. It takes anywhere from 2:15 mins to 4:20 hours to get there With trains only leaving Guelph Kitchener Cambridge etc. twice in the morning. We are Toronto bedroom communities They should be leaving every hour. It’s just horrible. To see my adult son back home in Aurora it takes us at least 3 1/2 hours with at least four transfers When it only takes an hour and 15 mins to drive there 🤦♀️ After being in Montreal and their amazing system. Toronto is just a mess. You see cities around the world that have new beautiful high tech Trains with many many tracks and then you come to Toronto lol. It’s embarrassing and frustrating to say the least. I hope this Ontario line is something big. We need it lol
@@raymond289 when you have politicians ( and the citizens/money that back them ) barely using or at least needing the transit system it won’t be a big priority 🤷♀️but then again you can say that for a lot of issues involving improving the lives of us peasants lol lol lol. I know I know. If I don’t like how it is .. run and do something about it. I know 🤷♀️🤪. But TBH id rather poke my eye out,😏working with people that do their jobs for power over actually wanted to make it better for EVERYONE Just being honest.🤪😏 Though maybe I should stop talking about it And at least try to get involved. I am getting older though, don’t know how many more years of pestie topless Demonstrations I have left in me 😏. Kidddinggggg 🤣🤪 Have to laugh 😜
@@AMYV3 young lady you have missed tons of world issues. From 80’s wars over oil and 1993 world trade centre, 1994 political systems changes in Canada.
I’m doing a project for school where we talk about something we like and then make a quiz about it. I LOVE the TTC but I needed to know when certain extensions opened so this vid is really helping
I worked at Finch Tower for two years and watched the construction of North York Centre Stn. I have been a way from TTC for 25 years and it was nice to see where it started, where it is today and where it is going tomorrow. Very progressive. Great video for historic value.
@@brosandshortfilms7647 you could mean vertical as in, a line is in a vertical coordinate running left to right, or as in the line go in the vertical directions from up to down
Great work! Underrated channel! Now you should branch out from Canada, I would love to see the evolution of the New York City Subway video, hell if I could I'd make one with my extensive knowledge of the subway. It would be a long and challenging video for sure.
@@VanishingUnderground very cool channel brother I will definitely sub I love Subways trains Light rail it's probably because I grew up in New York City just wondering because it seems like you're an expert or really into this is there any City in the world who's Subway is as complexed or even more complxed than New York City in this world ????? I've heard Torontos is or Montreal but I'm not sure I have Friends from Chicago and they tell Me it's heavy public bus use out there that there train system only runs through down town what's the point of that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎👎👎
Great video Zach, doing the timeline with the graphics made it much simpler to understand. It will be really interesting to see your update that will include the Ontario line and how it will interact with what will then be 3 existing lines. I really wonder if the never completed station under Queen street will be completed or bypassed. Thanks and keep up the great content,
Qingdao's 5 year old metro network already exceeds Toronto's 66 year old subway network, and the funny part is that most westerners never heard of Qingdao, China. Both cities have a population of about 6 million.
Population of Toronto proper is a bit under 3 million. Greater Toronto Area is pushing 8 million, depending upon boundary decision and hence included suburbs and regional cities.
there's no money and no political will to get it done. too many GTA people are used to driving that they don't even care if the TTC expands and some don't want to see it expanded because it means higher taxes (used to partially fund the new additions).
jeez this is remeinding me of the fact that I haven't been on the subway in so long. and I only remember torontos map when I see it, even though living here
As of 2023 the Scarborough SRT (Line 3) is being abandoned/shut down 7 years before the Scarborough subway extension from Kennedy to the Scarborough Town Centre is scheduled to be completed
no one i know rides the short train. it's too small to accomodate enough people. everyone i know who lives in north scarborough just takes the brimley express bus to kennedy or whatever express bus they need from STC
There's also the planned extension of Line 1 on the Yonge side, from Finch up to the Richmond Hill Centre terminal just north of Highway 7. Should it get underway, it wouldn't be completed until around 2030, barring eventual delays. There, it would link up with a primary hub of GO Transit, as well as the VIVA/YRT system to head further north, east and west. Given the passenger loads though, it may require a change of trains at Finch to avoid overcrowding.
May I ask what exactly qualifies as a construction tender? About a month ago, Metrolinx began the process of relocating trees near Renforth Station to begin construction of the tunnel bore shaft, so it can be argued that construction on the Eglinton West subway has "begun".
Usually I consider the construction tender to be the one that covers the bulk of the work, similar to the $4.6B one issued for the Hurontario LRT in October 2019. I haven’t included Eglinton West/Ontario Line at this stage as the station names and alignment have yet to be finalized, and I feel like there’s too much uncertainty at this stage of their completion dates.
On the Finch West LRT side, they're about to begin to put down the tracks here on the very west end of the line. They're almost complete with the underground tunnel leading to Humber College.
It would be nice if the subway system in Toronto provides a direct service to Pearson airport. The current combination of UP express and bus service between YYZ and Kipling is less than ideal, with the UP express being somewhat expensive and the bus service a bit of a bottleneck... I'm thinking the light rail line to Humber College can eventually be extended to the airport maybe?
The completely underground extension of the Eglinton LRT to the airport will begin construction this year and finish sometime in 2027. However this portion only brings it to Renforth station, the extension directly to the airport is still being worked out.
Indeed - I recall visiting Toronto a few years back and having to get a bus to Kipling to use the subway to get into the city centre. In this day and age, there's little excuse for a huge city not to have a direct public transportation link from its airport to city centre.
The issue I find with Toronto’s transit expansion is that it prioritized Line 1 too much for too long. As I had mentioned in a previous video, the Vaughan extension should’ve been integrated into Line 4, making it more attractive and promoting more and better connectivity. Any subway extension in the east for Line 4 seems fruitless (as currently proposed), as the expected passenger volume still calls for intermediate service which isn’t practical for a subway. Example: the Line 4 East subway extension would service Warden Ave, skip Birchmount Rd, service Kennedy, and skip Agincourt GO, requiring transit riders to still rely on buses in the same corridor, which would undoubtedly be reduced due to the subway. The formerly proposed Line 7 Sheppard East LRT would’ve replaced bus service along the corridor, and service these intermediate stops, providing better service connectivity and quality, especially given the improvements to the GO regional service along the Stouffville Line. Hopefully a better alternative can be found. The Ford government prioritizes transit MODES instead in spite of connectivity and how it better serves the area on a whole. This goes back to when the late Rob Ford tried to cancel all the proposed transit expansion projects in the pipeline. Instead of having a network of new transit infrastructure, we have two new segregated transit lines being built, with no foreseeable way of connecting them. Toronto transit isn’t just about “Subways Subways Subways”
Funny in 20 years most of all the Chinese cities have 20+ subway lines and High-speed trains and Maglev trains and yet we pay a carbon tax and have Nothing!!
A subway station at Yonge and Steeles has always made sense. Have a bus station in the Centrepoint Mall parking lot for Steeles West and Steeles East. Instead of taking a bus back-and-forth from Steeles to Finch, a commute between subway stops only takes a few minutes.
@@TheTroyc1982 true but its not bad to make the extension at the same time as the relief line now? oh wait metrolinx will wait until the relief lines done to build the yonge north extension......
At least in Montreal, there was a wider line with a six-station difference between transfer points on the green and orange lines. Here, we're looking at a differential of one and 11 stations.
You did a nice video BUT TORONTO is the largest city and everyone who immigrates to Canada ends up in Toronto. We are sorely lacking in subway lines compared to New York, London, Berlin, Paris, etc. We should be CONSTANTLY building more routes and this should last for the next 100 years easily. MAKE WORK PROJECTS.
I read somewhere that Madrid bought a tunnel digging machine so they could continuously build as part of a long term business plan. By contrast, Toronto goes through years of bureaucratic wrangling to get things going. They should be building tunnels and servicing this massive sprawl for decades to catch up to demand.
1) Yonge-University-Spadina line should have never been extended all the way to Vaughan. The terminus should have been York University. 2) Sheppard line should have been extended west to Downsview (was talked about many times) to have a true connection to that side of the overall line and cut travel times. 3) Still waiting on the downtown relief line.
@@jayman105 Exactly what about it is dumb? It makes things more convenient for everyone and it's clearly a better plan than anything you ever came up with.
@@user-tr9rw7ne8x 1) Travel time for anyone wanting to go from Wonderland to downtown Toronto. 2) Most Vaughan residents own several cars and wouldn't be caught dead using the subway. 3) Costs involved with such a project. 4) It's not necessary, and will never be a priority in any way. If Vaughan wants more transit, they should build their own light rail system instead of leeching off the TTC.
I wish the whole Eglinton lrt line was underground like a subway 😩 the government was too cheap to do it. Underground transit is badly needed just look at keeledale station just stunning 👀
It is not that the government is to cheap... that money comes from us in the form of taxes. Getting that either means waiting longer or substantially raising our taxes.
With Line 3 most likely closing in 2 years, Scarborough will be left with just a couple Line 2 and Line 5 stops. East of Kennedy and north of Eglinton will have nothing for a decade more. Here's hoping the Eglinton East and Sheppard East LRT lines get built
They should really make a Dundas subway. Starting at Dundas station, west to St Patrick, then diagonally up to Dundas West station, and possibly continue to Mount Dennis from there. I say, that sounds like convenience to me.
@@email5023 uhh, the complete lack of expansion in the past few decades? The pointless sheppard subway that's still underutilized? The less than 40 years we got out of the SRT, which will now eventually be replaced by an LRT with less stops? The many many delays in line 5, and numerous idiotic decisions like putting so many stops so close together and tunneling it underground? The fact that we needed a relief line a long time ago and the Ontario line is so far out it didn't even make it in the video?
Agree, look at any other major G-7 city and Toronto is a mess. Berlin, London, New York etc...they all grew over time. Toronto just stopped. I guess building condos and unaffordable housing and crappy shops and restaurants was more important. Too bad really, Toronto could have been a great city, now it's just a steaming ugly expensive embarrassment.
In the later 2020s I would suggest extending the sheppard line to Wilson and making it follow the Yonge-university line as far as finch west where it can meet with the finch line and they could be 1 line
Shame line 4 does not link Don Mills to Midland in the east and to Finch West in the west to provide additional east to west capacity also with the lines finishing at Mount Dennis and Kipling shame that an airport link was not added.
north scarborough and markham getting shafted decade after decade from getting new subway or bus lines. instead they build into vaughan and humber river area. fucking joke....
As soon as subways go into scarbrough they go above ground and become milk runs, look at the scarbrough LRT system and the Eglinton LRT, comes into scarbough comes above ground, even the new Ontario line when it comes to Don Mills though not scarbough but close, it comes above ground. Rob Ford tried to make them underground, politicians and the media fought against him so hard, they used every excuse in the book to not build a underground scarbrough system.
No mention of the Ontario line? Is that not still in the plans? Properties have already been expropriated for this line, so I would think the plans are pretty grounded and still much alive.
@@BYD_LRT it's funny because it's not even close to a NYC mode and level. It's also funny that Toronto didn't look toward their motherland major city, London. This one seems more realistic for Toronto to pattern itself on.
I grew up in Toronto finch and Yonge st Mostly. I went to high school on the subway. Art school Earl haig ♥️. But I’d have to say it’s definitely not a subway line we can be proud of. Especially compared to the Montreal subway system. I hope one day we have the system we deserve ♥️♥️
I have to say that I was shocked when I noticed how small the subway system of Toronto is. I have lived in Sydney and Melbourne on Australia and was impressed by how advanced their transit is down there!! On top they are also adding a metro line like in Paris (underground and yes it comes on top of the current transit that already exist in Sydney). On transit side, I am sorry to say but Australia does a much better job than Canada, even Vancouver! Now 2 years ago, I have been to Santiago de Chile! You know what??? They had 4 lines of underground trains! It is really not bad knowing that Chile is still a developing economy!!!!! Canada should do way better for wheee it stands now! It just shouldn’t be happy with “good enough” when it comes to transit! Even the French speaking Canadians in Montreal seem to be way better than Toronto in terms of transit system! And you know what is the worst or… the best???? Even AFRICA has some acceptable transit: th-cam.com/video/HuNRmsF26_U/w-d-xo.html
Here in São Paulo - Brazil we have 5 Subway(underground) lines, but we have high capacity monorail lines too, and we have 5 more lines of hybrid urban-suburban rail like the S-Bahn in Berlin São Paulo's Subway is the most modern subway in all Latin America
I'm from Toronto and been on many subway lines.. for a system this old it should have been much much bigger.. I'm glad finally Eglinton crosstown is FINALLYYY coming to an end after 12 years 12 bloody years! 😤🤦♂️ There is a joke going around that Finch west line might finish up before Eglinton line 😂 even tho it started 8 years later.. it's been sooo much faster considering Toronto n its construction time 💯👏 over 20 km done in 3.5 years 😎
In my personal opinion subways should be expanded especially the Sheppard line from Yorkdale to markham.. UP express might be going away soon pls add a direct connection of eglinton LRT to airport
In hindsight I should’ve included the Hurontario LRT in my Suburban BRT Network video. Ontario Line construction tender hasn’t been issued yet, which is my criteria for inclusion
I applaud you for mentioning the failed interlining. Most transit channels omit it in history videos like this. Bravo!
Funny enough I actually clicked on the link to see if it would be mentioned.
The unused Bay Street platform is often redressed and used as a movie set, often times filling in for a subway station in New York City.
went on that platform during Nuit Blanche one year, cool stuff
Seen so many movies with these ghost stations , you can always tell. I remember watching the construction of Bloor line with my grandfather in the early 60s
@@DrewRycerz Yes. I worked downtown , Front & Parliament. Used to take the subway frequently
Also accidentally walk through many film shoots. Lol. RoboCop , Tommy Boy , Monk , Kung Fu . But heck I only had a half-hour for lunch. 🇨🇦
Catered a show there once. Had to use the stairs. *KILLER!*
Also, "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3" was filmed there.
I was born in Toronto in 1961 and moved to Japan in 1998. I had no idea there were all these new lines. I wish that York University station was there when I went there. Thanks for the upload. It was interesting and exceptionally edited and narrated.
Finally 2% of what Tokyo has lol
@@WilliamChan Yeah, that and the 40 million people in the greater Tokyo area took some getting used to.
There are even more being proposed and being built in addition to this video as of 2021. We also have the ontario line coming and proposed waterfront and more scarborough LRT lines. Not to mention an extension of line 4. How long has it been since you’ve been back? I currently go to York and take the subway to get there so I am lucky (but it’s all i’ve known).
@@gordonbgraham man you're old mate just joking around 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a friend of mine visited Toronto in 2006 he said it felt like being in New York City with all the new train lines
@@mikegreen5502 getting old beats the alternative...
When I went to Toronto for the first time, I was shocked, I didn't expect such a tiny subway network in such an international city.
Governments trying to redo transit in their image.
Every time someone new gets elected, whether its provincial or local, they scrap the previous transit plans in favour of something they cooked up or to save money because god forbid public tax money is use to pay for public transit.
Another problem is none of the elected officials are urban designs, transit planners or engineers so all their ideas tend to skew towards votes rather then whats best for the city.
It is just so smalllllll compare to the subway in Paris!!!
And by the way even Sydney Australia has a much better transit system than Toronto!!! And they also add the metro lines like in Paris too! In some points, Australia seems to be doing better than Canada and I am ho eat with this as I used to live there a few years ago!!!
When the new lines open it will be about as big as New York when you account for population
@@AK-iu2mp what do you mean even Sydney? it's a bigger city than Toronto.
If they had done short extensions in the 90s like they did in the 70s, Toronto's subway system would have been much better. I've always hated how there was no subway connection between the two Line 1 corridors north of Bloor. That Sheppard subway should have extended to Sheppard West.
Oh well.
I wished they put in more money on the Shepard line and instead of stopping at don mills, they went east all the way to uft Scarborough. Shepard line looks useless with only four stops.
There was a whole budget thing back when the Sheppard Subway was built, and it was supposed to be longer but they had to strip it down to only five stations. Part of the reason for that was because of the "State of good repair" program that was created after the 1995 subway crash. Basically means build new subways only when there is enough money to maintain the rest of the system properly.
sheppard subway should've went to sheppard west and scarborough town centre in the east. to provide a scarborough to north york crosstown subway without having to ride down to bloor to make a transfer. it would've alleviated congestion on sheppard from the buses that run there instead of a subway.
instead it's pointless and a waste of money.
if it weren't a mayor comes and cancels all projects and makes new ones, then the next one cancels and makes new one, we would have more lines.
@@Humulator exactly. Its truly a miracle that the eglinton line wasn't cancelled. I just wished they had made it completely underground, because I still don't understand how are the lrt trains going to bypass all the traffic lights.
I'd love to see a "what if" scenario of what the TTC subway would look like if every planned/cancelled line and extension had actually gone through, and how it compares to what we have.
I have to say.. they are improving it, and I was shocked to see that from finch west to Humber college is going to be completed by 2023.. very impressive
2024 and still not opened yet though I saw them testing it
It has taken an entire generation to get a little bit done on the east end of the city. Pretty shameful.
still waiting for north scarborough and even markham TTC extensions. doubtful they ever get done. a Finch crosstown from East Scarborough to West North York is needed too
Do we need to mention the so called new Eglinton line that was supposed to be finished in 2015?
@@gamingwithtina3920 2019*
@@Humulator the original dead line was 2015
@@gamingwithtina3920 it started 2 years before 2015? how is it going to finsh in 2 years?
Really hope the Ontario Line finally gets built. This iteration of the downtown relief line seems to have the best chance of actually being built.
Some people don't seem to like that its elevated where the existing go train tracks is, but its really the best option cost wise as it uses existing infrastructure.
Transit takes forever to build in Ontario. You can have more Highways build outside the city before anything can be done.
Vaughan extension environment engineering for 15 years before lay down the tracks. 1998 3 different routes. Government push back not enough for budget. Good luck. Toronto transportation is Toasted
What’s the Ont line ?
I haven’t had a car for financial reason for the past ten years. I’ve lived outside Toronto since then and I can tell you. It’s hell !!! Just takes a Ridiculous amount of time to get places and horrible transfers. I now live in Guelph 🤦♀️. Even worse transit. I can’t even get to near by Kitchener without paying almost $20 and it takes an hour and a half. It’s a 15 min drive. To get to Toronto an hour drive. It takes anywhere from 2:15 mins to 4:20 hours to get there With trains only leaving Guelph Kitchener Cambridge etc. twice in the morning. We are Toronto bedroom communities They should be leaving every hour. It’s just horrible. To see my adult son back home in Aurora it takes us at least 3 1/2 hours with at least four transfers When it only takes an hour and 15 mins to drive there 🤦♀️
After being in Montreal and their amazing system. Toronto is just a mess. You see cities around the world that have new beautiful high tech Trains with many many tracks and then you come to Toronto lol. It’s embarrassing and frustrating to say the least. I hope this Ontario line is something big. We need it lol
@@raymond289
when you have politicians ( and the citizens/money that back them ) barely using or at least needing the transit system it won’t be a big priority 🤷♀️but then again you can say that for a lot of issues involving improving the lives of us peasants lol lol lol.
I know I know. If I don’t like how it is .. run and do something about it. I know 🤷♀️🤪. But TBH id rather poke my eye out,😏working with people that do their jobs for power over actually wanted to make it better for EVERYONE Just being honest.🤪😏
Though maybe I should stop talking about it And at least try to get involved. I am getting older though, don’t know how many more years of pestie topless Demonstrations I have left in me 😏.
Kidddinggggg 🤣🤪
Have to laugh 😜
@@AMYV3 young lady you have missed tons of world issues. From 80’s wars over oil and 1993 world trade centre, 1994 political systems changes in Canada.
I’m doing a project for school where we talk about something we like and then make a quiz about it. I LOVE the TTC but I needed to know when certain extensions opened so this vid is really helping
I just wish if you can do one with the proposed lines that the Ford government wants to add.
Do you mean the Ontario line?
@@bohdantelychko8155 Ontario Line, Yonge North, Scarborough Subway Extension, Eglinton West Subway.
@@Absolute_Zero7 Yonge North has been proposed from before Rob/Doug Ford wanted to add them.
Too far away from the future. ETA 2030 according to Metrolinx
Before I finished playing this video, TTC closed Line 1 one more time
as a Canadian this always happens
Does anyone know why the Yellow line was built so close together downtown? It seems like it could’ve been spaced out a bit more.
Because they can serve the streetcar routes there
My guess was to add capacity to the area rather than service a different region. However, most people tended to take the Younge line anyway.
trust me theres alot of space in between
Those were how far apart the east-west arteries were I believe
Toronto has an extensive streetcar network in that area.
1:48 the second level at Bay station is often rented/loaned out for movie productions.
I worked at Finch Tower for two years and watched the construction of North York Centre Stn. I have been a way from TTC for 25 years and it was nice to see where it started, where it is today and where it is going tomorrow. Very progressive. Great video for historic value.
Really ????? You shouldn't be able to name all the stops on the TTC in 20 seconds.
@@RFM- I was able to name all the stops on the Y-U-S and the B-D but it took me 30 seconds.
@@t.o.9215 good work. There you go. Now practice till you can do it in 20 seconds.
Please do a video on the evolution of Toronto's PATH underground mall.
i second that!!!
He only does videos of transit
@@thundersonic342 I agree..
If he can make senses of the PATH system he will be one step ahead of people actually using it. 🤣
Horizontal Subway lines: *exist
Toronto: We don’t do that here
i think you mean vertical, man
@@brosandshortfilms7647 you could mean vertical as in, a line is in a vertical coordinate running left to right, or as in the line go in the vertical directions from up to down
Great work! Underrated channel! Now you should branch out from Canada, I would love to see the evolution of the New York City Subway video, hell if I could I'd make one with my extensive knowledge of the subway. It would be a long and challenging video for sure.
I’m working on some videos for smaller US cities for the coming months! The channel Metro Liner did a good video on the NYC network
@@VanishingUnderground very cool channel brother I will definitely sub I love Subways trains Light rail it's probably because I grew up in New York City just wondering because it seems like you're an expert or really into this is there any City in the world who's Subway is as complexed or even more complxed than New York City in this world ????? I've heard Torontos is or Montreal but I'm not sure I have Friends from Chicago and they tell Me it's heavy public bus use out there that there train system only runs through down town what's the point of that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎👎👎
These videos are awesome!! Huge fan
Great video Zach, doing the timeline with the graphics made it much simpler to understand. It will be really interesting to see your update that will include the Ontario line and how it will interact with what will then be 3 existing lines. I really wonder if the never completed station under Queen street will be completed or bypassed. Thanks and keep up the great content,
We need badly an East extension in Scarborough to border in Durham region, the population is growing very fast. 🚄
Scarborough subway in talk for over 10 years, dont know if gonna live to see anything gets done. lol
There’s more,extension 1 line to Richmond hill station
and Ontario Line
It’s not gonna to be done b4 the service of Ontario Line. Young subway is already at capacity
@@seanshen8325 *Yonge
no richmond hill
Nice documentary! I have never taken the Toronto subway. I will have to check it out next time I visit instead of driving!
Thanks for the update!
Qingdao's 5 year old metro network already exceeds Toronto's 66 year old subway network, and the funny part is that most westerners never heard of Qingdao, China. Both cities have a population of about 6 million.
Population of Toronto proper is a bit under 3 million. Greater Toronto Area is pushing 8 million, depending upon boundary decision and hence included suburbs and regional cities.
dog shit, the TTC is underpaid. Asia's and Europe's subway is better.
yep, I'm from Qingdao the Jade City and its metro system is actually better than Toronto's
there's no money and no political will to get it done. too many GTA people are used to driving that they don't even care if the TTC expands and some don't want to see it expanded because it means higher taxes (used to partially fund the new additions).
@@33l_pr1m00 you also have no freedom
The production quality of these videos is next level! Keep up the great work!
So you're telling me that they're planning to finish the Eglinton LR line? The new LR line to Humber College is in construction chaos.
So nice video thank you so much.
But all the stations still far where I live so sad 😭. We need more station in Scarbrough 😚
And they are going to decommission the Scarborough RT...
Cool video,very educational . New station hype.SOLD.
jeez this is remeinding me of the fact that I haven't been on the subway in so long. and I only remember torontos map when I see it, even though living here
“Spadina, Spadina Station”
Update: there's now a de-evolution as we lost the Scarborough RT, and the Eglinton like probably won't appear until 2025
As of 2023 the Scarborough SRT (Line 3) is being abandoned/shut down 7 years before the Scarborough subway extension from Kennedy to the Scarborough Town Centre is scheduled to be completed
no one i know rides the short train. it's too small to accomodate enough people. everyone i know who lives in north scarborough just takes the brimley express bus to kennedy or whatever express bus they need from STC
There's also the planned extension of Line 1 on the Yonge side, from Finch up to the Richmond Hill Centre terminal just north of Highway 7. Should it get underway, it wouldn't be completed until around 2030, barring eventual delays. There, it would link up with a primary hub of GO Transit, as well as the VIVA/YRT system to head further north, east and west. Given the passenger loads though, it may require a change of trains at Finch to avoid overcrowding.
It’s not gonna to be done b4 the service of Ontario Line. Young subway is already at capacity
@@seanshen8325 What if it was done at the same time as the Ontario line?
Amazing video!
May I ask what exactly qualifies as a construction tender? About a month ago, Metrolinx began the process of relocating trees near Renforth Station to begin construction of the tunnel bore shaft, so it can be argued that construction on the Eglinton West subway has "begun".
Usually I consider the construction tender to be the one that covers the bulk of the work, similar to the $4.6B one issued for the Hurontario LRT in October 2019. I haven’t included Eglinton West/Ontario Line at this stage as the station names and alignment have yet to be finalized, and I feel like there’s too much uncertainty at this stage of their completion dates.
@@VanishingUnderground That’s smart. I doubt those lines will be built, at least not as planned by the current provincial government
On the Finch West LRT side, they're about to begin to put down the tracks here on the very west end of the line. They're almost complete with the underground tunnel leading to Humber College.
It would be nice if the subway system in Toronto provides a direct service to Pearson airport. The current combination of UP express and bus service between YYZ and Kipling is less than ideal, with the UP express being somewhat expensive and the bus service a bit of a bottleneck... I'm thinking the light rail line to Humber College can eventually be extended to the airport maybe?
The completely underground extension of the Eglinton LRT to the airport will begin construction this year and finish sometime in 2027. However this portion only brings it to Renforth station, the extension directly to the airport is still being worked out.
@@robmausser It's not completely underground first off. Second it's slated to be completed by 2030.
Indeed - I recall visiting Toronto a few years back and having to get a bus to Kipling to use the subway to get into the city centre. In this day and age, there's little excuse for a huge city not to have a direct public transportation link from its airport to city centre.
@@cmartin_ok We do now. UP Express
@@cmartin_ok I mean there is the UPX train from downtown. Most cities have an airport express train, not a subway to their airports.
Keep the good work zack
The issue I find with Toronto’s transit expansion is that it prioritized Line 1 too much for too long. As I had mentioned in a previous video, the Vaughan extension should’ve been integrated into Line 4, making it more attractive and promoting more and better connectivity. Any subway extension in the east for Line 4 seems fruitless (as currently proposed), as the expected passenger volume still calls for intermediate service which isn’t practical for a subway.
Example: the Line 4 East subway extension would service Warden Ave, skip Birchmount Rd, service Kennedy, and skip Agincourt GO, requiring transit riders to still rely on buses in the same corridor, which would undoubtedly be reduced due to the subway.
The formerly proposed Line 7 Sheppard East LRT would’ve replaced bus service along the corridor, and service these intermediate stops, providing better service connectivity and quality, especially given the improvements to the GO regional service along the Stouffville Line.
Hopefully a better alternative can be found. The Ford government prioritizes transit MODES instead in spite of connectivity and how it better serves the area on a whole. This goes back to when the late Rob Ford tried to cancel all the proposed transit expansion projects in the pipeline. Instead of having a network of new transit infrastructure, we have two new segregated transit lines being built, with no foreseeable way of connecting them.
Toronto transit isn’t just about “Subways Subways Subways”
Although Line 1 is priotized, it's still to slow in expansions
Nice shot of TTC 3725 @5:31, proudly built by us here in City Of Industry, California.
Three are definitely more than 2.7 million people in Toronto. It’s close to 5 or 6 million people.
The urban planning of Montreal wipes the floor with TO & TTC.
I came to Canada in 2007... Soon after I heard about western line to humber college... Good to know that its going to be operational in 2023...
Will be quite operational
Funny in 20 years most of all the Chinese cities have 20+ subway lines and High-speed trains and Maglev trains and yet we pay a carbon tax and have Nothing!!
SO RIGHT. Ours lines are a joke. Why aren't they still building MANY MORE LINES.
Carbon Tax is a money grab so Trudope the traitor can give to other countries!
You have nothing Because you are paying the carbon tax.
for a city this big is a joke of a transit system, dilapidated and underdeveloped
Agree no more!
aaandddd vox said that THIS city is a good example of transit compared to american ones… i wonder how american transit is like
@@Tinny10_ It sucks in most places.
@@The-Shameless yes, i live here, ive been to Europe, this place is a joke
@@The-Shameless and you must be talking about the downtown core, the only half decently connected place
A subway station at Yonge and Steeles has always made sense. Have a bus station in the Centrepoint Mall parking lot for Steeles West and Steeles East. Instead of taking a bus back-and-forth from Steeles to Finch, a commute between subway stops only takes a few minutes.
the problem is that the Yonge Line is already at capacity and should not be expanded until a relief line is built
@@TheTroyc1982 true but its not bad to make the extension at the same time as the relief line now? oh wait metrolinx will wait until the relief lines done to build the yonge north extension......
Great video
At least in Montreal, there was a wider line with a six-station difference between transfer points on the green and orange lines. Here, we're looking at a differential of one and 11 stations.
They announced that they're adding more subways lines From Science centre through queen and osgoode
They have been announcing new lines for 40 years and few, if any ever came to be. We are better off walking....
Yes google Ontario Line. Cheers.
Are you gonna do an updated video for the Eglinton Crosstown stations??
You know Toronto's population is more than 3 million right? 2.7 million is like 5 years outdated.
more like 5-6 millon.
@@Humulator thats the GTA, the city of toronto has around 3 million
@@chickenbokernot2598 your correct. 5 months ago I had no idea what this kinda stuff was.
You did a nice video BUT TORONTO is the largest city and everyone who immigrates to Canada ends up in Toronto.
We are sorely lacking in subway lines compared to New York, London, Berlin, Paris, etc.
We should be CONSTANTLY building more routes and this should last for the next 100 years easily.
MAKE WORK PROJECTS.
Heck, I think Toronto is sorely lacking to subway lines even to cities like Boston and Montreal!
I read somewhere that Madrid bought a tunnel digging machine so they could continuously build as part of a long term business plan. By contrast, Toronto goes through years of bureaucratic wrangling to get things going. They should be building tunnels and servicing this massive sprawl for decades to catch up to demand.
Very cool! Can you do the Hurontario LRT'
1) Yonge-University-Spadina line should have never been extended all the way to Vaughan. The terminus should have been York University.
2) Sheppard line should have been extended west to Downsview (was talked about many times) to have a true connection to that side of the overall line and cut travel times.
3) Still waiting on the downtown relief line.
why cant you extend it to Vaughan. the university-spdina line isn't at capacity. even with the Vaughan its not at capacity?
Iine 1 should be extended to major mackenzie at both ends connecting to Canada's wonderland and Richmond hill go.
@@user-tr9rw7ne8x That is the dumbest thing I believe I've ever heard in regards to transit.
@@jayman105 Exactly what about it is dumb? It makes things more convenient for everyone and it's clearly a better plan than anything you ever came up with.
@@user-tr9rw7ne8x 1) Travel time for anyone wanting to go from Wonderland to downtown Toronto.
2) Most Vaughan residents own several cars and wouldn't be caught dead using the subway.
3) Costs involved with such a project.
4) It's not necessary, and will never be a priority in any way. If Vaughan wants more transit, they should build their own light rail system instead of leeching off the TTC.
As a person who lived near Downsview station all my life. I will keep calling that station Downsview for the rest of my life
same, as a person who lives near eglinton west for most of my life i will never call it cedarville
will you update this in future?
we need dat scarbs extension asap!
I wish the whole Eglinton lrt line was underground like a subway 😩 the government was too cheap to do it. Underground transit is badly needed just look at keeledale station just stunning 👀
literally half of it is underground bud
@@mike-yk4yk I know that, but putting the whole lrt line underground would be so much better, faster too NO traffic lights.
It is not that the government is to cheap... that money comes from us in the form of taxes. Getting that either means waiting longer or substantially raising our taxes.
@@lisaray101 how would you feel about elevated track?
@@-_8809 Elevated tracks need to be maintained and cost over time, look at the Scarbrough LRT line.
With Line 3 most likely closing in 2 years, Scarborough will be left with just a couple Line 2 and Line 5 stops. East of Kennedy and north of Eglinton will have nothing for a decade more. Here's hoping the Eglinton East and Sheppard East LRT lines get built
That's what Scarborough gets for voting for Rob Ford
They should really make a Dundas subway. Starting at Dundas station, west to St Patrick, then diagonally up to Dundas West station, and possibly continue to Mount Dennis from there. I say, that sounds like convenience to me.
this map, and the state of transportation planning in this province, are embarassing
How?
@@email5023 uhh, the complete lack of expansion in the past few decades? The pointless sheppard subway that's still underutilized? The less than 40 years we got out of the SRT, which will now eventually be replaced by an LRT with less stops? The many many delays in line 5, and numerous idiotic decisions like putting so many stops so close together and tunneling it underground? The fact that we needed a relief line a long time ago and the Ontario line is so far out it didn't even make it in the video?
Agree, look at any other major G-7 city and Toronto is a mess. Berlin, London, New York etc...they all grew over time. Toronto just stopped. I guess building condos and unaffordable housing and crappy shops and restaurants was more important. Too bad really, Toronto could have been a great city, now it's just a steaming ugly expensive embarrassment.
COOL VIDEO! 😎
The line 3 in Toronto will be closed in 2023 due to the line 2 extension
There will also be another line going south from one of the eglinton Crosstown's stn (science center stn will be it)
In the later 2020s I would suggest extending the sheppard line to Wilson and making it follow the Yonge-university line as far as finch west where it can meet with the finch line and they could be 1 line
completely different technologies
Shame line 4 does not link Don Mills to Midland in the east and to Finch West in the west to provide additional east to west capacity also with the lines finishing at Mount Dennis and Kipling shame that an airport link was not added.
north scarborough and markham getting shafted decade after decade from getting new subway or bus lines. instead they build into vaughan and humber river area. fucking joke....
As soon as subways go into scarbrough they go above ground and become milk runs, look at the scarbrough LRT system and the Eglinton LRT, comes into scarbough comes above ground, even the new Ontario line when it comes to Don Mills though not scarbough but close, it comes above ground.
Rob Ford tried to make them underground, politicians and the media fought against him so hard, they used every excuse in the book to not build a underground scarbrough system.
Cool music 😎
Music Credits?
No mention of the Ontario line? Is that not still in the plans? Properties have already been expropriated for this line, so I would think the plans are pretty grounded and still much alive.
there is no construction timeline for it and who know when it will get built. Land was also expropriated for and Pickering International Airport.
When are they going to build a service from union station down and along the harbourfront?
How come the subway service is not referred to as a Metro?
Toronto has always been a New York City wannabe. LOL
The term "Subway" tends to be used in anglo countries. Sub meaning "under" or "below".
@@BYD_LRT it's funny because it's not even close to a NYC mode and level. It's also funny that Toronto didn't look toward their motherland major city, London. This one seems more realistic for Toronto to pattern itself on.
I grew up in Toronto finch and Yonge st Mostly. I went to high school on the subway. Art school Earl haig ♥️. But I’d have to say it’s definitely not a subway line we can be proud of. Especially compared to the Montreal subway system. I hope one day we have the system we deserve ♥️♥️
this map still haunts me from 10 years of living in Toronto lol
nice
What about the Ontario Line? It’s mentioned in the video
Such a small system for such a big city.
lets go my favourite station is finch west
At the start of the video I thought u done said “this is Toronto, Canada home to 2.79 people”
Nice! But there's another line coming...7th, the Ontario Line...
I have to say that I was shocked when I noticed how small the subway system of Toronto is. I have lived in Sydney and Melbourne on Australia and was impressed by how advanced their transit is down there!! On top they are also adding a metro line like in Paris (underground and yes it comes on top of the current transit that already exist in Sydney). On transit side, I am sorry to say but Australia does a much better job than Canada, even Vancouver!
Now 2 years ago, I have been to Santiago de Chile! You know what??? They had 4 lines of underground trains! It is really not bad knowing that Chile is still a developing economy!!!!! Canada should do way better for wheee it stands now! It just shouldn’t be happy with “good enough” when it comes to transit! Even the French speaking Canadians in Montreal seem to be way better than Toronto in terms of transit system!
And you know what is the worst or… the best???? Even AFRICA has some acceptable transit:
th-cam.com/video/HuNRmsF26_U/w-d-xo.html
Here in São Paulo - Brazil we have 5 Subway(underground) lines, but we have high capacity monorail lines too, and we have 5 more lines of hybrid urban-suburban rail like the S-Bahn in Berlin
São Paulo's Subway is the most modern subway in all Latin America
I'm from Toronto and been on many subway lines.. for a system this old it should have been much much bigger.. I'm glad finally Eglinton crosstown is FINALLYYY coming to an end after 12 years 12 bloody years! 😤🤦♂️
There is a joke going around that Finch west line might finish up before Eglinton line 😂 even tho it started 8 years later.. it's been sooo much faster considering Toronto n its construction time 💯👏 over 20 km done in 3.5 years 😎
What is the name of the music used in the video?
The High Line by Causmic
@@VanishingUnderground thanks!
3M people in the City, 6M in the greater area, and this sad excuse for a transit system
In my personal opinion subways should be expanded especially the Sheppard line from Yorkdale to markham.. UP express might be going away soon pls add a direct connection of eglinton LRT to airport
In 2023 they are discontinuing line 3 the Scarborough LRT!!
*3 million people live in toronto
It's more of a mutation than an evolution.
2 footages of montreal transit in the beginning
Try Doing Lost Spring Wyoming Sometime!
why didn't you include the Ontario and Hurontario lines in this video?
My guess is because Ontario Line is only proposed and not under construction.. and Hurontario Line isn't in Toronto.
In hindsight I should’ve included the Hurontario LRT in my Suburban BRT Network video. Ontario Line construction tender hasn’t been issued yet, which is my criteria for inclusion
Ontario has suffered from poor transit planning for decades. Band aid solutions are quite evident.
We need a subway from Cambridge to the Yonge line!
best transit in the world!
Edit line 5 is here now
line 1 should be extended to steeles then a yrt line into markham.
You forgot the"Ontario"in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
the fact that you pronounced it trano instead of toronto immediately gives away that you're from here
The Scarborough LRT is such a disaster. Barely should be on the map honestly.
64 years for this.
the bend north at main st is incorrect east of victoria pk