Typical mistakes: overlooking candidate moves

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  • @kirkmason7079
    @kirkmason7079 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    “What looks nice in chess is not always correct.” Love it!

  • @ircjesselee
    @ircjesselee 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Glad to see you more active again. Instant clicks 😊

  • @westofwahpeton4692
    @westofwahpeton4692 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    So glad you’re posting again. You have a gift for explaining things

  • @farainfarsai5098
    @farainfarsai5098 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Like other good teachers, you break down complex problems and clearly explain it. This shows your deep mastery. Thanks for posting again.

  • @chiburger
    @chiburger 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    That first example is astounding. The correct move is so easy to be blind to.

  • @T1J
    @T1J 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    these videos are absolutely amazing for where I'm at in chess right now. i feel like I know my openings but still dont understand how to make correct plans and my calculation is pure trash. this channel is a godsend

  • @Drummond-rh8ur
    @Drummond-rh8ur 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I still have a chess catalogue from 1994 containing your "Krushing Attack" videos!

  • @hellenOaks
    @hellenOaks 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    There are a lot of bad things about the internet but being able to have a chess lesson by Irina Krush is nothing short of true magic

  • @courageousknight
    @courageousknight 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Such an instructive first example in this excellent video! Thank you GM Krush!

  • @nickdoody5291
    @nickdoody5291 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This so speaks to a weakness I've noticed in my own calculation, which is a bias against changing the pawn structure. I always forget I can capture pawns, even when that's clearly a strong option. Thanks for the video.

  • @epictetuscasanova
    @epictetuscasanova 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Geez, you're amazing at these lessons.

    • @Daniel-qx6bg
      @Daniel-qx6bg 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      she's the best

  • @dongaknima5194
    @dongaknima5194 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Found out about you through a video on Kasparov vs the world and hearing about your move suggestions gave me a really cool impression of you, love all of your lessons, appreciate ya!

  • @СтаниславХаджиев-щ6т
    @СтаниславХаджиев-щ6т 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    2 videos in 24 hours, that's a late Christmas gift.

  • @1988MaxVivas
    @1988MaxVivas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is a great channel. Excellent lesson!!!
    Thank you.

  • @rhysgriffiths9675
    @rhysgriffiths9675 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video! I often notice when watching Eric Rosen stream that his most frequent mistake is missing candidate moves rather than making calculation mistakes. Maybe this is the sort of detail that can elevate an IM to GM :D

    • @golendorfjules1838
      @golendorfjules1838 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is simply not true, missing candidate moves is often because that candidate move is just too difficult to find, Eric Rosen, just like any other chess player rather makes calculation mistake that's what separate Im and Gm, among other things

  • @chessveer
    @chessveer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    as a 800 rated player ,this channel is goldmine

  • @chiva6760
    @chiva6760 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think the things you cover is perfect for my rating range. U explain it so well thank you so much❤

  • @innopva9973
    @innopva9973 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    thanks for this!!! your content is so helpful so glad you are posting again and explaining

  • @BobbyRunout_SmoothMoves
    @BobbyRunout_SmoothMoves 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Really hope you keep this New Year resolution going. Thank you!

  • @kevinwinter4514
    @kevinwinter4514 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just watched. More than useful. Very nicely explained Irina 😀

  • @chessyoshi8626
    @chessyoshi8626 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for all the great instruction!

  • @farhanahmed7477
    @farhanahmed7477 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much mam. Please keep making videos. We want to learn from you. You are a great teacher.

  • @chrissharkeyai
    @chrissharkeyai 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video! Glad I discovered your channel!

  • @2Oldcoots
    @2Oldcoots วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fascinating Insights!!

  • @Para-rt9uk
    @Para-rt9uk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Irena, 'lets get into it'. Yup, lets do. Great instrutional stuff.

  • @azul4em
    @azul4em วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video, thanks.

  • @choco1101
    @choco1101 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was following the first example and I just feel the bloodlust taking over to go for the "look good" moves without fully exploring everything.

  • @DedaOG
    @DedaOG 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Perfect video. Just had a game where I failed to even think of the only winning move

  • @NGEternal
    @NGEternal 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The lighting in this video is stellar

  • @stevenseymour4372
    @stevenseymour4372 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, this is very instructive.

  • @user-sf3ks1yl5b
    @user-sf3ks1yl5b วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've played blitz for many years and developed the habit of using little or no time on the opponents moves. I now find it hard to change my thinking pattern.

  • @inciaradible7144
    @inciaradible7144 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic video and I really got to get more in the habit of doing this; I tend to play too much on instinct and just overlook particular moves that I find later during analysis. Funnily enough, I did, for some reason, spot Qg1 though.

  • @Nemtomi
    @Nemtomi วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very useful on my 1600 level as well!

  • @allanwatts6922
    @allanwatts6922 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great lecture 😊

  • @totalmonkeyspeed260
    @totalmonkeyspeed260 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great lesson 🙏

  • @JuxChess
    @JuxChess 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    such a wonderful video... Qxg2 seems so counter intuitive, but once you see it, you cant unsee it. lol

  • @janmaarten6250
    @janmaarten6250 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is so tempting to immediately start calculating the first move that comes to mind. And then the second and then the third. Even when you know that it is better to list the candidate moves first. Yes, there are also temptations in chess!

  • @eclecticexplorer7828
    @eclecticexplorer7828 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was among my initial candidate moves (first position). I didn't have to go back at the end. I have failed to spot candidates in other chess problems that should have been easier, though.
    On the last position, I did look at Qg1 first. I missed Re2 as a response to Qd1, however, so I was not seeing why one position would be better than the other.

  • @sebastiandierks7919
    @sebastiandierks7919 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:16 Qf4 is also a check, should also be included in the list of candidate moves. Doesn't look natural and isn't good after Kc2, but if we're listing candidate moves before doing any calculation, it should be included I guess.

  • @yangye7754
    @yangye7754 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chess is hard and these examples just show how hard it is.

  • @Jörg-DieterMeyer
    @Jörg-DieterMeyer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting!

  • @chessloverontwitch
    @chessloverontwitch วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great to see you creating content Irina. Happy New Year!

  • @patrickdaly1088
    @patrickdaly1088 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Open Minded and Desperate" I lol'd. Timely video for me, I was just thinking about spotting candidate moves being slow, mostly moves down the tree. Do you think it's a good idea to still stick to those heuristics for the most part, but be ready to ask your brain a second time for candidate moves when the first ones don't work out? You caught Qg2 the second time, but shouldn't our heuristics lead us to the more likely moves first, as a matter of principle, and when those don't work out we check for more?

  • @TheFutureIsThePast77
    @TheFutureIsThePast77 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice

  • @bessithor1571
    @bessithor1571 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, Irena! Would you ever analyze the correspondence game between Garry Kasparov vs the rest of the world in a video?
    Thanks for the teaching either way and a happy new year!

  • @golendorfjules1838
    @golendorfjules1838 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, very instructive.

  • @AARSkeeter
    @AARSkeeter วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just realized I went to High School with her and yet I’m only just getting into chess now. I should have started earlier. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @truthshallsetyoufree-n8o
    @truthshallsetyoufree-n8o 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a way to spot on what to calculate so you don't need to calculate every single piece that can be moved in the board?

  • @ManishSingh-bq2un
    @ManishSingh-bq2un 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice T shirt!!!

  • @abdellahambarky41
    @abdellahambarky41 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ❤❤❤

  • @AlbertoMendozaMedina
    @AlbertoMendozaMedina 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you by chance have or use a technique (any) to determine candidate moves in a position? That you could share and show? Thanks Irina!
    I ask that because in this video you basically did/showed what you said (in this video) we should not be doing (calculating sequences before listing all the [possible] candidate moves in the position, to avoid missing/overlooking good moves)

  • @shadeburst
    @shadeburst 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Perhaps you already have a video on how to salvage a draw from a losing position?

  • @Sicilian-Popcorn
    @Sicilian-Popcorn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good video and i recommend you to put a chess piece on the thumbnail of the video because its not obvious that this is a chess video from the thumbnail

  • @Sumac44
    @Sumac44 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is literally the problem I keep running into

  • @JerseyDevil43-c9y
    @JerseyDevil43-c9y วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are like wine , better with age :)

  • @Pizzanicv
    @Pizzanicv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I need to improve my calculation deapth. How to train that?

  • @abliviax
    @abliviax 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do I pay for this lesson?

  • @srikanthtupurani6316
    @srikanthtupurani6316 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chess is unforgiving and cruel. One mistake it is over.

  • @farooqmohammed316
    @farooqmohammed316 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't believe you are a Grandmaster instead of a women Grandmaster or an IM for that matter. I used to see your analysis for magnus vs ian wcc with Anand and dubov.

  • @ManosErikosKlapsakis
    @ManosErikosKlapsakis วันที่ผ่านมา

    Qg2 or Rc2 10:48

  • @conradgonzalez1570
    @conradgonzalez1570 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😍

  • @Relinger
    @Relinger 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Irvina, you need to check your setting because all your video is very choppy

  • @imsamtw
    @imsamtw 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it’s not critical moment,any move is just okay

  • @wolfgangwiesinger9502
    @wolfgangwiesinger9502 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ...N×f2, Rf1 is not possible?

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As impressive a chess player as she is, there are stronger Grandmasters than Irina Krush, sure. But based on the dozens of her videos that I’ve seen, no other TH-camr reduces complicated positions and concepts to simple to understand ideas that chess players of any level can understand better than Ms. Krush. In this regard she may be the best of the best.

  • @TDIMZII
    @TDIMZII 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    me potato 😁

  • @mahmoudnoaman7112
    @mahmoudnoaman7112 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wasted my time following gotham chess🙂

  • @modernholyblues
    @modernholyblues 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    open minded and desperate...sounds like my ex

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And you're making the typical teaching mistake. Adriaan de Groot's book "Thought and Choice in Chess" demonstrated that the fundamental difference in level of chess players at all levels is that the weaker player does not even consider the correct move in critical positions. For some reason, this fundamental result has been ignored, even though it is at the heart of chess improvement. The only exception is Willy Hendrik's book "Move First, Think Later."

    • @AndreLuiz-v2h1x
      @AndreLuiz-v2h1x 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I dont understand the first sentence of your comment. She's teaching just fine.

    • @alekhinesgun9997
      @alekhinesgun9997 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's her mistake?

    • @ilanpi
      @ilanpi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alekhinesgun9997 The key difference between levels is the inability to consider the correct candidate moves. The implication is that no amount of rational explanation is sufficient to improve, you just have to first see the right move. Her explanations are after the fact rationalisations which don't actually correspond to the actual process. At one point, she states: "This move caught my eye" which is the correct process, but is something that can't be transmitted by teaching. You all should read the books I mentioned.

    • @alekhinesgun9997
      @alekhinesgun9997 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ilanpi She's just explaining that we often have blindspots for moves and that in order to find the correct answer you need to ask yourself the correct question. In the Qxg2 puzzle I found the answer pretty quickly because I saw the pattern of King on e3 and Qf2 mate and thought to check if there was a way I could get my queen there and seeing that Qf2+ and Rf2+ didn't immediately work led me to come to the move of Qxg2. I began with the question, not the starting move of Qxg2. There's a newer way of approaching candidate moves that suggests you'll only see move if you know what you're looking for. Azel Chua does a good job at illustrating this in his podcast with dr Can. You still worded your comment ambiguously but if you're suggesting that no amount of rational explanation will get you to the right answer if you don't see the first move instantly then I believe that's unfounded.
      I still don't know what your argument with Krush is other than you like that she says it caught her eye and that you don't like her post rational justification (which is literally how we learn and know what to do differently next time...)

    • @ilanpi
      @ilanpi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alekhinesgun9997 Hello! You are making statements about "how we learn" but I wonder whether you have actually studied this topic. As far as I know, there are no academic studies about the effectiveness of chess teaching. I have taught university courses about this. For example, I show that the use of the word "learn" is an abuse of language, as in "children learn to walk." I illustrate this with a video of a wildebeest walking within a few minutes of being born, which shows that walking is in fact hard wired (with the reasonable hypothesis that mammals have similar central nervous systems). Similarly with language, for example, do you plan you sentence so it has correct grammar? These questions are quite subtle. I propose that you read "Move First, Think Later" to find out more about these topics.

  • @nicbentulan
    @nicbentulan 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Carissa Yip dating Wesley So? Look at Carissa's tweet of their jerkygate photo together. Also Carissa's header of Wesley at the 2022 Olympiad hasn't changed for 2.5 years

    • @rhysgriffiths9675
      @rhysgriffiths9675 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wtf???

    • @JahacMilfova
      @JahacMilfova 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lol

    • @davidheath5429
      @davidheath5429 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So what?

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@davidheath5429 1 if I'm right then I can brag to people that I was right. Lol 2 I'm also curious what people think of this 1 decade age gap. I'm Filipinx. My mom says there's no issue with this. Other people say ok. Others say weird. I'm torn. Curious to hear opinions.

  • @jobarepeco
    @jobarepeco 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, thank you! Maybe consider framing the board in the video in such a way that when both the youtube title and the lower time bar are showing the board isn't obstructed. Not terribly important and maybe worse for mobile but a suggestion nonetheless