I don't know if it's the makeup department or Kirsten Dunst did some method-acting but they did a great job of making her look like 2 days without sleep CONSTANTLY.
This channel has very cool reactions. Here are a few movie suggestions. Phenomenon - John Travolta Here on Earth - Josh Hartnett August Rush - Kerry Russell The Ultimate gift - Abigail Bresslin The longest ride - Britt Robertson Jerry McGuire - Tom Cruise Untamed Heart - Marissa Tomei The Campaign - Will Farrell Trust me. You will love these movies.
If you’re looking for a few political undertones in the film they discussed California and Texas forming an alliance which only means the president probably really fucked up. Then they go into the presidents third term along with drone strikes on citizens. From this I’d assume that it’s pretty much all states vs remnants of the US military on the east coast not including those defecting. Meaning the only real ops were U.S. Military. I guess they were trying to make it easier to not be political. Great film but it is a bit odd that it has nothing to do with the Civil War 😂
I think the reason this movie was set in a fictional American civil war was so that it could be about war journalism specifically and be detached from the politics of the war. Because to set it during a current or past world conflict, I think the story would likely have needed to address what was happening in that war. Even just through where the journalists originate from is adopting a POV. You couldn't set the movie in a fake war in a modern setting between countries - even if you were vague, there would still be some inherent political statements you make just from locations and the racial coding of the combatants, which would take a portion of the conversation away from the journalism aspect. Ultimately, they needed a culturally homogenous war so that it could stand in for the concept of war without meaning anything in and of itself. At least that's how I saw it.
People wanted it to be a run and gun kinda movie but in order to keep things non biased I think this was ultimately the right decision especially with how much tension and partisan our county is already. Also they made it so we never knew the political sides which was also smart lol
Thanks for reacting to this one Jimmy, I feel that it's a deeply misunderstood film and that a surprising amount of reactors seem to have steered-clear of because of not wanting (understandably) to have to deal with potential blow-back of any kind of political commentary beyond the surface. Ironically the film isn't about politics at all, it's about what happens when politics and politicking have failed.
28:25 the movie is beautiful cause our country is beautiful. The message Alex Garland wanted to send I believe was best said by Dunst about how every picture was a warning back home of don't do this. The juxtaposition of beauty with the helicopter & destruction is a real possibility & he's asking us as a viewer is it worth it? Do we want a modern civil war in this beautiful land?
Incredibly misunderstood mainly because it wasn’t what people where expecting but I loved that we saw it through the non biased eyes just like the journalists
I think people who didn't like this movie wanted it to be about the politics of the war, when it was never intended to be that. They wanted to be able to see who the "good guys" were identify with them, and "win" vicariously, and they're mad they can't tell if they should be rooting for or against the president.
I dont agree with what you say about "no one cares who wins". Only saw it in the cinema so this was my 2nd viewing (kind of)... But the president is basically the bad guy. And Texas/California are the "good guys" simply. They were following the "good guys". Ron Swanson is basically playing a version of your current president. I know the word insurrection was mentioned near the start. I think its one where a second viewing you definitely see more details in there about what is going on. The friends who i saw it with didnt really dig it. I liked it more, its definitely not a fun film. But I just like the vibes I get from Alex Garland stuff... I highly recommend his TV Show "Devs" (just one season) and it has Ron Swanson in it too. The girl actress was from Alien: Romulus, and she is in "Devs" too.
@@esinach you are absolutely and incredibly wrong. They do not explain any of the politics of this movie whatsoever. And in fact, the creators wanted it to be like that. It is incredibly dumb to suggest that the current president was supposed to be depicted in this film. Civil Wars are complex and not necessarily “good” vs bad” all the time. You cannot make that decision solely based off this film because they intentionally did not reveal aspects of the full story to maintain the non biased narrative. What you were doing is destroying that by making assumptions to fit your biases.
@@laketyson8720 I didnt say they explain it... But its there, in bits and pieces. Go listen to any interview with Garland. It is dumb to say the current president didnt inspire the character. I didnt say he was him. He 100% inspired him. But Im guessing you are a trumper. Go listen to any long interview with Garland.
@@esinach buddy I did see an interview and in that interview he didn’t go into specific politics or Presidents. What he spoke about was the polarization of views and the distrust of the press and how that wa adding to it. We saw the President for about two minutes and they gave a couple of things that the President did in a 30 second conversation. To take that and translate it to a certain politician, president, or political party is just absurd. I feel like you’re missing the whole point of the movie. There’s a reason that they did not explore the specifics. If it was what you say, it was then they would have. That’s why to me. It seems like you were adding your own biases and opinions and filling in the gaps. That’s not the point of the film. My political views and your political views are irrelevant, so I’m not going to state them. However, you already have. If he 100% was the inspiration, then there would be proof of that so tag the interview of him stating that in the comments and I’ll take a look at it. But I am pretty perplexed on how you could map out the whole landscape and nuances of a film that hardly mentioned any or clearly explained both sides of the conflict.
@@esinach Garland - “there are equally plenty of people in public discourse making clear polarized political statements, not interested in joining either of those two camps”
I didn't watch this when it came out, because I assumed it was some leftist propaganda, but the makers really did a fantastic job of being kind of neutral about the opposing sides. When I finally watched it I was pleasantly surprised.
I liked the part of this movie where Tony and Steve started tonguing eachother while Bucky used his metal arm to straight up crank his hog into annihilation
If you fast forward through a movie you aren't allowed to have an opinion on it, regardless of the movie's quality. Bizarre that people do that these days and then think they should comment on it.
I don't think Lee ever got her edge back at the end I think she was just going through the motions and emulating Jessie but not really achieving any results. It's kinda dumb how she just stood there after pushing Jessie out of the way I feel like she could've saved herself as well. I get the passing of the torch moment but logistically it bothers me.
I don't know if it's the makeup department or Kirsten Dunst did some method-acting but they did a great job of making her look like 2 days without sleep CONSTANTLY.
This channel has very cool reactions. Here are a few movie suggestions.
Phenomenon - John Travolta
Here on Earth - Josh Hartnett
August Rush - Kerry Russell
The Ultimate gift - Abigail Bresslin
The longest ride - Britt Robertson
Jerry McGuire - Tom Cruise
Untamed Heart - Marissa Tomei
The Campaign - Will Farrell
Trust me. You will love these movies.
If you’re looking for a few political undertones in the film they discussed California and Texas forming an alliance which only means the president probably really fucked up.
Then they go into the presidents third term along with drone strikes on citizens. From this I’d assume that it’s pretty much all states vs remnants of the US military on the east coast not including those defecting. Meaning the only real ops were U.S. Military. I guess they were trying to make it easier to not be political. Great film but it is a bit odd that it has nothing to do with the Civil War 😂
Loved this one. Such a dark ending. Very underrated.
One of the scariest films I've ever seen
The near future.
I think the reason this movie was set in a fictional American civil war was so that it could be about war journalism specifically and be detached from the politics of the war. Because to set it during a current or past world conflict, I think the story would likely have needed to address what was happening in that war. Even just through where the journalists originate from is adopting a POV. You couldn't set the movie in a fake war in a modern setting between countries - even if you were vague, there would still be some inherent political statements you make just from locations and the racial coding of the combatants, which would take a portion of the conversation away from the journalism aspect. Ultimately, they needed a culturally homogenous war so that it could stand in for the concept of war without meaning anything in and of itself. At least that's how I saw it.
14:15 I think this was a main reason alot of people were disappointed in this movie. I enjoyed the change in perspective and thought it was great
People wanted it to be a run and gun kinda movie but in order to keep things non biased I think this was ultimately the right decision especially with how much tension and partisan our county is already. Also they made it so we never knew the political sides which was also smart lol
Thanks for reacting to this one Jimmy, I feel that it's a deeply misunderstood film and that a surprising amount of reactors seem to have steered-clear of because of not wanting (understandably) to have to deal with potential blow-back of any kind of political commentary beyond the surface.
Ironically the film isn't about politics at all, it's about what happens when politics and politicking have failed.
I respect that its a neutral view. No cheerleading for one side or the other. Kind of refreshing actually.
28:25 the movie is beautiful cause our country is beautiful. The message Alex Garland wanted to send I believe was best said by Dunst about how every picture was a warning back home of don't do this.
The juxtaposition of beauty with the helicopter & destruction is a real possibility & he's asking us as a viewer is it worth it?
Do we want a modern civil war in this beautiful land?
time to rewatch spartacus ,Ashur new series is coming lol
Hey Jimmy have you seen the movie Warrior (2011) with Tom Hardy?
Yes I have
Yayyyy! My second favorite misunderstood masterpiece. Behind "The Room" (2003) 😌🙃. Thanks, Jimmy!
Incredibly misunderstood mainly because it wasn’t what people where expecting but I loved that we saw it through the non biased eyes just like the journalists
@@laketyson8720 Exactly!
The least ringing endorsement for this movie ever.
You’re welcome. 🙂
This movie sucks and you suck for liking it. I bet you do want a civil war you Fing nerd.
This isn’t a masterpiece and it’s not misunderstood. You’re a loser.
The cinematography in this movie. Chef's kiss quality.
Completely agree. It’s such an odd but extremely interesting tone. A pretty big fan of what this movie did.
I liked this movie, I just hated the ending because Kirsten died to protect her idiot protege.
Sweet
It was ok, but I expected more/better.
I think people who didn't like this movie wanted it to be about the politics of the war, when it was never intended to be that. They wanted to be able to see who the "good guys" were identify with them, and "win" vicariously, and they're mad they can't tell if they should be rooting for or against the president.
The president was the bad guy, that was clear.
Beautifully shot film about a terrifyingly possible future.
I dont agree with what you say about "no one cares who wins". Only saw it in the cinema so this was my 2nd viewing (kind of)... But the president is basically the bad guy. And Texas/California are the "good guys" simply. They were following the "good guys". Ron Swanson is basically playing a version of your current president. I know the word insurrection was mentioned near the start. I think its one where a second viewing you definitely see more details in there about what is going on.
The friends who i saw it with didnt really dig it. I liked it more, its definitely not a fun film. But I just like the vibes I get from Alex Garland stuff... I highly recommend his TV Show "Devs" (just one season) and it has Ron Swanson in it too.
The girl actress was from Alien: Romulus, and she is in "Devs" too.
@@esinach you are absolutely and incredibly wrong. They do not explain any of the politics of this movie whatsoever. And in fact, the creators wanted it to be like that. It is incredibly dumb to suggest that the current president was supposed to be depicted in this film. Civil Wars are complex and not necessarily “good” vs bad” all the time. You cannot make that decision solely based off this film because they intentionally did not reveal aspects of the full story to maintain the non biased narrative. What you were doing is destroying that by making assumptions to fit your biases.
@@laketyson8720 I didnt say they explain it... But its there, in bits and pieces. Go listen to any interview with Garland.
It is dumb to say the current president didnt inspire the character. I didnt say he was him. He 100% inspired him.
But Im guessing you are a trumper.
Go listen to any long interview with Garland.
@@esinach buddy I did see an interview and in that interview he didn’t go into specific politics or Presidents. What he spoke about was the polarization of views and the distrust of the press and how that wa adding to it. We saw the President for about two minutes and they gave a couple of things that the President did in a 30 second conversation. To take that and translate it to a certain politician, president, or political party is just absurd. I feel like you’re missing the whole point of the movie. There’s a reason that they did not explore the specifics. If it was what you say, it was then they would have. That’s why to me. It seems like you were adding your own biases and opinions and filling in the gaps. That’s not the point of the film. My political views and your political views are irrelevant, so I’m not going to state them. However, you already have. If he 100% was the inspiration, then there would be proof of that so tag the interview of him stating that in the comments and I’ll take a look at it. But I am pretty perplexed on how you could map out the whole landscape and nuances of a film that hardly mentioned any or clearly explained both sides of the conflict.
@@esinach Garland - “there are equally plenty of people in public discourse making clear polarized political statements, not interested in joining either of those two camps”
@@laketyson8720 Dude I aint reading that, It seems I touched a nerve.
This is what Trumps third term will resemble. Mark my words 👍🏻
Exactly…. If not sooner.
It's absolutely criminal that this wasn't nominated for an Oscar in sound design, but of course Emelia Perez was. Smh.
Our not too distant future = (
Yeah, and right after that, Y2K is gonna happen 😂
I didn't watch this when it came out, because I assumed it was some leftist propaganda, but the makers really did a fantastic job of being kind of neutral about the opposing sides. When I finally watched it I was pleasantly surprised.
Captain america civil war?
sure
I liked the part of this movie where Tony and Steve started tonguing eachother while Bucky used his metal arm to straight up crank his hog into annihilation
Couldn’t get into this movie. I fast forwarded thru most of it
Maybe try watching it next time?
@MrHarbltron I did watch some of it. Almost half the movie, that was enough.
@@MrHarbltronThat's a super hard task, one of the hardest tasks on the planet!
If you fast forward through a movie you aren't allowed to have an opinion on it, regardless of the movie's quality. Bizarre that people do that these days and then think they should comment on it.
@@benrobo1134 bizarre that people comment but don't read both of your comments.
This movie coulda been so much better, but instead they focused on journalism 😴
I don't think Lee ever got her edge back at the end I think she was just going through the motions and emulating Jessie but not really achieving any results. It's kinda dumb how she just stood there after pushing Jessie out of the way I feel like she could've saved herself as well. I get the passing of the torch moment but logistically it bothers me.