Killers more than anything is seeing Marty’s portrayal of violence and his maturity in depicting it. In his early works, the usage of violence was accompanied by Thelma Schoonmaker’s quick cut editing or grand music cues to play up the glorification of the violence. Here Marty and Thelma frame the violence from afar- there are no cuts and no spectacle editing decisions. The frame is a funeral for the characters. It’s blunt and quick.
You have not watched enough of his work if you think Martin Scorsese ever glorifies violence. He explicitly deplores it. Also the majority of his films are not violent.
Seeing Raging Bull for the first time was like a spiritual experience. I've never seen a film photographed and edited like that--Scorsese himself has a quote about Kubrick that fits with how I feel about it: “Watching a Kubrick film is like gazing up at a mountaintop. You look up and wonder, how could anyone have climbed that high?” After watching Killers of the Flower Moon in theaters, I had that same feeling. It's an experience above all else . . . so rich so dense . . . to zoom in too much is to miss the greatness of it as a whole The two minute section on Perspective deftly ties together many threads , well done
I feel like this video put Blackie from Killers in a more interesting light to me. In Scorsese’s other films I feel as though Blackie would be a reoccurring character that betrays them in the end and it feels personal. But in Killers he get shafted by the “big guns” in town and so he flips on them. Simple as. Their collapse isn’t an explosion but a blowing over of a house of cards
That's very accurate to how it really went down. Hale's biggest downfall was probably employing a bunch of outlaws with no loyalty to anything other than their own self interest. As soon as he was no longer the most powerful influence in the situation they flipped on him.
You are a fantastic writer! A really great script you've written here -- rarely do I watch video essays where I feel like actually reading the essay written for it would be interesting or engaging but you have a great authoristic voice.
An interesting discussion on auteurism. Scorsese is one of the greats, who’s definitely aware of the elements of film language that people read into with his pictures.
What I have realised is how underestimated Martin Scorsese's storytelling skills are. He absorbs books, often at the instigation of Robert Anthony De Niro, and then finds out what is the heart of them. I think it was during the James Christian Kümmel interview for Killers of the Flower Moon (2023) that he mentioned the process by which he transformed the detective story into the betrayal story. He is very personal and I doubt he could ever do a third-person story let alone a Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Christie, Lady Mallowan story.
Its rare that I comment....but I would commend you for your commentary on scorsese for its depth and sheer impromptuness... One thing which has struck me is just how many cinema commentators keep bringing this "reducing attention span" thing among new generation as if its an established fact. This is far from true and meta-analysis conducted on this subject doesn't favour the reducing span hypothesis. Recently UCL neuropsychiatrist Stuart Ritchie also critiqued this...
You’d make a good lawyer, you’re confident, articulate, and wrong. Actually, you’re a little delusional. Marty was once my favorite Directors back in the 70s and the 80s. Taxi driver, raging bull, king of comedy… that’s when he was at his peak. After that, it was mostly downhill… Some ups and a lot of downs. The Irishman is completely unwatchable. It’s such a piece of trash. The departed won him best picture and it’s god awful. He hasn’t made a good film in… 20 years? Yes, his new one killers of the flower moon is pretty damn good but it’s not a masterpiece. taxi driver changed cinema forever. Killers will be loved and forgotten. Marty’s greatest problem is that he surrounds himself with yes people.. Nobody tells him when he’s driving down the wrong lane. A lot of great directors have four or maybe even five great movies in them and then the well runs dry. Francis Coppola is a perfect example… Paul Thomas Anderson… Just brilliant and then what happened? He makes crap like licorice pizza. This is the man who made “there will be blood” what a fall from Grace.
Lots of big words to try to convey your thoughts... never a good look. Also maybe a second angle to hide you jumbling over those big words with the jump cuts? This film is a renowned director doing his best to portray a very delicate subject matter that has never been brought to light to the best of his ability.
Killers more than anything is seeing Marty’s portrayal of violence and his maturity in depicting it. In his early works, the usage of violence was accompanied by Thelma Schoonmaker’s quick cut editing or grand music cues to play up the glorification of the violence. Here Marty and Thelma frame the violence from afar- there are no cuts and no spectacle editing decisions. The frame is a funeral for the characters. It’s blunt and quick.
So well written and a great observation. This says something about artists changing with age.
You have not watched enough of his work if you think Martin Scorsese ever glorifies violence. He explicitly deplores it. Also the majority of his films are not violent.
It felt to me like we as the audience were witnesses to the crimes, rather than having any relationship with their participants.
This video is the type of film criticism TH-cam needs more of!
Yeah. Enough with the outrage culture critics who are ironically just trying to make some $$$ off of being outraged.
Seeing Raging Bull for the first time was like a spiritual experience. I've never seen a film photographed and edited like that--Scorsese himself has a quote about Kubrick that fits with how I feel about it: “Watching a Kubrick film is like gazing up at a mountaintop. You look up and wonder, how could anyone have climbed that high?”
After watching Killers of the Flower Moon in theaters, I had that same feeling. It's an experience above all else . . .
so rich so dense . . . to zoom in too much is to miss the greatness of it as a whole
The two minute section on Perspective deftly ties together many threads , well done
The scene with dinero praying for the sister and then the pan out was peak
I feel like this video put Blackie from Killers in a more interesting light to me. In Scorsese’s other films I feel as though Blackie would be a reoccurring character that betrays them in the end and it feels personal. But in Killers he get shafted by the “big guns” in town and so he flips on them. Simple as. Their collapse isn’t an explosion but a blowing over of a house of cards
That's very accurate to how it really went down. Hale's biggest downfall was probably employing a bunch of outlaws with no loyalty to anything other than their own self interest. As soon as he was no longer the most powerful influence in the situation they flipped on him.
You are a fantastic writer! A really great script you've written here -- rarely do I watch video essays where I feel like actually reading the essay written for it would be interesting or engaging but you have a great authoristic voice.
Just saw killers of the flower moon last night, this is perfect timing lol
An interesting discussion on auteurism. Scorsese is one of the greats, who’s definitely aware of the elements of film language that people read into with his pictures.
What I have realised is how underestimated Martin Scorsese's storytelling skills are. He absorbs books, often at the instigation of Robert Anthony De Niro, and then finds out what is the heart of them. I think it was during the James Christian Kümmel interview for Killers of the Flower Moon (2023) that he mentioned the process by which he transformed the detective story into the betrayal story. He is very personal and I doubt he could ever do a third-person story let alone a Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Christie, Lady Mallowan story.
I just can't stand ignoring "the last temptation of Christ", which is Scorsese's quintessential masterpiece
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The De Niros and the DiCaprios.
Its rare that I comment....but I would commend you for your commentary on scorsese for its depth and sheer impromptuness...
One thing which has struck me is just how many cinema commentators keep bringing this "reducing attention span" thing among new generation as if its an established fact. This is far from true and meta-analysis conducted on this subject doesn't favour the reducing span hypothesis.
Recently UCL neuropsychiatrist Stuart Ritchie also critiqued this...
Good essay. All I gotta say.
You may want to re edit the 8:34 voiceover (it cuts out mid thought)
Head movements annoying af, but good video tho 👍
Ermmmm..
"We kind of thought Scorcese would be dead by now" - The Video
scorsese is pronounced scor-sessey not scor-say-se .... just fyi :)
well I hear a lot of Americans pronouncing it the way he does so that makes a lot of people pronouncing it wrong
Yes, it does.@@douseedee
sure. but that doesn't make it correct just bc a lot of americans say it wrong. :) 💕 @@douseedee
@@douseedee He has corrected people a lot on that. Watch interviews of his.
"Promo SM"
You’d make a good lawyer, you’re confident, articulate, and wrong. Actually, you’re a little delusional. Marty was once my favorite Directors back in the 70s and the 80s. Taxi driver, raging bull, king of comedy… that’s when he was at his peak. After that, it was mostly downhill… Some ups and a lot of downs. The Irishman is completely unwatchable. It’s such a piece of trash. The departed won him best picture and it’s god awful. He hasn’t made a good film in… 20 years? Yes, his new one killers of the flower moon is pretty damn good but it’s not a masterpiece. taxi driver changed cinema forever. Killers will be loved and forgotten. Marty’s greatest problem is that he surrounds himself with yes people.. Nobody tells him when he’s driving down the wrong lane.
A lot of great directors have four or maybe even five great movies in them and then the well runs dry. Francis Coppola is a perfect example… Paul Thomas Anderson… Just brilliant and then what happened? He makes crap like licorice pizza. This is the man who made “there will be blood” what a fall from Grace.
He went color blind with old age and decided to make his movies colorless too. Unwatachable.
Incomprehensibly bad take
You just didnt comprehend it@@HappyPsychoBunny3
Lots of big words to try to convey your thoughts... never a good look. Also maybe a second angle to hide you jumbling over those big words with the jump cuts? This film is a renowned director doing his best to portray a very delicate subject matter that has never been brought to light to the best of his ability.
Your videos are hard to get. Please try to use less prestigious words.
I agree but damn is it nice to listen to.
Scorsese is the most overrated director of all time. Sooo boring and his latest is the most depressingly boring and boringly depressing of all
Outrageously terrible take
It’s almost like it’s sad how the Osage were murdered and he wanted to portray that
@@Alx1116 fair point. But I still think Scorese has made some of the most turgid, boring and overrated movies of all time