Working on some more videos at the moment but this time no tank's. But 2 are ww2 related and 1 is a bit more current events. I do have some tanks on my to do list🥸
I disagree, this tank was very important for France for many reasons. 1) The war never ended, France needed to restore order in their colonial empire, the French army fought heavily between 1946 and 1962 across multiples colonies, tanks were desperately needed and the US had no real interest in helping them since it was aganist colonial empires, and the UK was a literal competitor. 2) France needed to boost their political power, they needed to support their post war claims with military power somehow. pre-war Poland, Albania, Korea and Yugoslavia were never restored by the occuping military powers, tanks were needed in order to defend French claims over Germany and the UN, none of them were initially recognized. 3) bordering Spain was still a problem, an allied intervention in 1945 or 1946 to restore "democracy" was still considered a possibility, if France was able to lead (or carring alone) said operation without help, it would be considered a military power again, tanks were needed. 4) A Soviet invasion was considered a real possibility in 1946-1953 since the USSR had double the manpower and armor of the allied powers, tanks were needed. 5) the tank wasn't bad, no other NATO tank in 1949 had 120mm of sloped armor and until 1953 the french had no access to better guns other than the 75 and 76mm guns on the Sherman. 6) The engine was a 600HP Tiger engine, it wasn't worse than the soviet V-2, unfortunatly the lack of spare parts and the aviability of M47s after the end of the Korean war resulted in their retirment in 1953.
the tanks also had defects, recognised in an internal paper of the army ordnance which listed the following faults it considered inherent to the design: -high and weak side profile -not enough power from the engine to overcome the precedent problem -insufficent observation means for the gunner and commander -the running train is delicate, of long and complicated maintenance and wears rapidly the rest was a mix of outdated solutions, lack of care on assembly, dilapidated industry and crew misuse and any faults resultant were considered not too serious provided a solution could be found in due time notes makes no mention of particular weaknesses of the armour other than the side considered insufficient for a tank of it's class (leading to the vehicle being reclassified as a tank destroyer), but already in 1951 the fate of the tank was in the balance as many issues were proving difficult to solve and it was well understood that the role of the tank was mostly for the french tank industry to make their teeth on, so by 1953 (allegedly after a firing incident causing the death of a turret crew) they were removed from service and Panthers were used until American M47s were procured
@@quentintin1 The ARL-44 was regarded, since its very conception, as a transition tank to restart the French tank industry. It quickly led to other prototypes like the AMX M4, then the AMX 50 family.
@@dlrowolleh5855 yes, but even if it was a transition, which it very much was, there was initially some hope it would form some part of the french tank force in the immediate post war, but choices in design and the issues of construction caused it to be effectively dropped on the spot
Awesome video man. You genuinely made this all interesting and captivating, and you cover history that I never even thought about. Great job, keep this up
The ARL 44 kept many skilled automotive and military engineers in the country and prevented them from being poached by US and other foreign arms companies preventing a massive post war brain drain. It was a Job Creation and Public works project that essentially saved the French Armaments industry as well as many other side related industries without it later tanks like the AMX series would never have been built. Was it a great tank no it wasn't it was terrible, but sometimes you need to do these style public works projects to stop an industry from collapsing and preventing a brain drain. This is something France actually has a very good record at with projects like TGV, Rafale and the way the French Nuclear Industry works all allowing France to have an excellent domestic base that is competitive and allows them to punch well above their weight and is why France is one of the few nations that can produce it's own tanks or planes and unlike the US has built a number of nuclear power plants within the last 50 years this is why now that the US and the UK are going back into nuclear power they are having to hire French companies as they allowed their domestic capacity to die. As a direct result of this project France has a very successful domestic arms industry sometimes a project is more about the politics and creating capacity than the product.
The point of this tank was not necessarly to create a great tank but to put french engineers back at work after these 4 years of stop where so many things evolved (sovereignty of French equipment was always very important for the French and it's not just a question of pride but also defence and jobs). And in general it did pay off, the French managed to create successfull design that was well sold outside of France during the cold war and is now the second biggest weapon manufacturer in the world. As a engineer myself, I can assure you that you get much more experience creating something rather than copying something.
At originally parish wasn’t scheduled to be liberated by allied army. It happend that french resistance made a coup and some free french division were close. At the end pris was liberated manly from french troops
there was a drive to liberate paris, but it was mostly a french project De Gaulle (with agreement from the americans) ordered Leclerc and hist 2nd DB to make best speed for the capital, catching wind of this ,the French resistance in paris launched an uprising against the german garrison, which, with the helps of advanced elements of the 2nd DB, forced the germans in paris to flee or surrender so Paris was in deed liberated by french people and french army (tho technically the first unit that entered Paris was spanish as it was constituted solely of exiled spanish republicans)
How to disguise your distaste of the French 101 Also, Paris being liberated by the French is a fact. My guy got his info on reddit along with his memes
The url links in the description and pinned comment do not work on the short that you made to promote this. Was so interested came and found it anyways, thank you for the content!
People casually missing the entire point of De Gaulle's speech admist the end of the war because their country can't provide them with decent and cheap education, healthcare, and public transportation
Although this tank was an obsolete peace of crap right out of the drawing board, its desnig and production were still usefull to help France retain the people with the know how, on armor development. If not for this project, those people and thus the capacity to develop and build armoured vehicles would have been lost by the French.
oh come on, we know very well we couldn't have done it without the help of the allies de Gaulle knew very well, his speech in 1944 was purely strategical politics because i'm not sure if you know but president Roosevelt wanted to make France an american occupation zone
The US wanted to treat France has loser of WWII and wanted to occupy it, so the loophole with England help was to say that France liberated themself and that why FFL rush Paris before the américain
This video made my day. Thank you for delivering this masterpiece of a video, on a horrible French tank. I agree with you on everything you said about the French, and the ARL-44. If you show this to a French person, it will cause another French revolution.
Generally the people who like to ignore the main point of the ARL 44 (a transition and propaganda tank) are the same who keep ranting about how the AMX 30 and the EBR were failed tanks (they weren't). Also, the video keeps claiming the French never got any Shermans from us. This is simply wrong, we sold many units to the French 1st and 2nd armoured divisions. The French also used captured tanks, like Panthers during the Rhine offensive. The French also kept buying equipment from us up until they could make most of their stuff on their own by the late 50s, when Israel started buying French brands instead of American brands (which caused them some diplomatic issues).
@@dlrowolleh5855 I see that someone is angry about what I said about the frogs. You need to take what I said with a grain of salt. I am well educated in history and I personally am part French myself, so your rant means nothing.
@@lukefriesenhahn8186 Man I'm a French grown man, this video made me laugh a lot, and you can come share a baguette (we'll cut it with my Opinel of course) with me whenever you like ! It's chill, we know we have to do things "the French way", and some days it even turns out fine 😀
I must add, I'm a 40 yo engineer, and one of my current problems is how often the three youngsters I'm in charge of simply brush my experienced arguments away with a simple "I like my way better" 😀
WHATTTT? SO Charles de Gaulle was lying about the French liberating themselves, and it was in real the English, Canadians, American's and a hand full of other countries that did it? Tell me it ain't so!
Wtf are you talking about??? We have one of the lowest déportation rate thanks to the interior resistance, because this resistance manage to extract thousand of jews out of the occupied territoires, the resistance also manage to send men to Uk for the ''libération army" who participate and sometime made, many battle like: bir hakeim, Tunisia campaign, italian campaign, participate to the normandy invasion, the french landing in southern France, the libération of Paris and of course in germany. the rôle of the french interior resistance has been essential in normandy, here js a little quote of D.eisenhower "We were depending on considerable assistance from the insurrectionists in France. Throughout France the Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign.... Without their great assistance the liberation of France and the defeat of the enemy in Western Europe would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves." so please inform yourself before saying shit about things youd dont know
@@albert_le_t-rex9112 they did have an effective but it was nowhere near the largest, the polish and the Hungarian ones easily beat it even the Yugoslav partisans
@@yuritrainspottingbro you say that after all the things i tell just above, i'm not saying that polish or yugoslav have a bad resistance (unlike you I would nevers denigrated their resistance because their were effective and brave like all the other) but can you tell me anything that they do and the french didnt do ? And btw the hungarian were and the german side so......
This was not a great tank and it had many problems, and it's intresting to see how does the tank was developed and why it fucked up, but this video is everthing but objective, half of the video is only dedicated to pure hatred towards the french, not even explaining the point of having a 100% french tank that was more about saving our weapon industry then having actual tanks and not being another contry dependant of the us for it's army. I have nothing against the US if not the hatred they created onto us because we didn't want to participate in the constant war crime that was the gulf war. You can be proud of yourself you just bullied an entire nation. Next time be a little more objective and try to make reschearch about why they did that and not just say their are dumb because you don't understand even a bit why they didn't want to buy more americans tanks then they already had (because they had a lot of them, and didn't reallyy needed any more tanks. It was again just to save our weapon industry). I'm pretty sure you can be better then just spreading hate onto us french, the only thing you know about us is what your media told you and you claim to know us. Come take a look here (not paris), We are not perfect and there can be as much bad people as everywere else but we are not the arrogant despisable people you describe at the start of your video.
In ww2 france used ww1 tech. In cold war france used ww2 tech. French baguette engineering go brrrrrr. Edit: Prob one of the best vids ive seen about the arl 44, keep cooking man, bet you will be big.
We've been blessed with another masterpiece.Keep it up man
I'll do my best🫡
Another great video man, well done. Can't wait to see more tank conetent like this from you
Working on some more videos at the moment but this time no tank's. But 2 are ww2 related and 1 is a bit more current events. I do have some tanks on my to do list🥸
I disagree, this tank was very important for France for many reasons.
1) The war never ended, France needed to restore order in their colonial empire, the French army fought heavily between 1946 and 1962 across multiples colonies, tanks were desperately needed and the US had no real interest in helping them since it was aganist colonial empires, and the UK was a literal competitor.
2) France needed to boost their political power, they needed to support their post war claims with military power somehow. pre-war Poland, Albania, Korea and Yugoslavia were never restored by the occuping military powers, tanks were needed in order to defend French claims over Germany and the UN, none of them were initially recognized.
3) bordering Spain was still a problem, an allied intervention in 1945 or 1946 to restore "democracy" was still considered a possibility, if France was able to lead (or carring alone) said operation without help, it would be considered a military power again, tanks were needed.
4) A Soviet invasion was considered a real possibility in 1946-1953 since the USSR had double the manpower and armor of the allied powers, tanks were needed.
5) the tank wasn't bad, no other NATO tank in 1949 had 120mm of sloped armor and until 1953 the french had no access to better guns other than the 75 and 76mm guns on the Sherman.
6) The engine was a 600HP Tiger engine, it wasn't worse than the soviet V-2, unfortunatly the lack of spare parts and the aviability of M47s after the end of the Korean war resulted in their retirment in 1953.
the tanks also had defects, recognised in an internal paper of the army ordnance which listed the following faults it considered inherent to the design:
-high and weak side profile
-not enough power from the engine to overcome the precedent problem
-insufficent observation means for the gunner and commander
-the running train is delicate, of long and complicated maintenance and wears rapidly
the rest was a mix of outdated solutions, lack of care on assembly, dilapidated industry and crew misuse and any faults resultant were considered not too serious provided a solution could be found in due time
notes makes no mention of particular weaknesses of the armour other than the side considered insufficient for a tank of it's class (leading to the vehicle being reclassified as a tank destroyer), but already in 1951 the fate of the tank was in the balance as many issues were proving difficult to solve and it was well understood that the role of the tank was mostly for the french tank industry to make their teeth on, so by 1953 (allegedly after a firing incident causing the death of a turret crew) they were removed from service and Panthers were used until American M47s were procured
@@quentintin1 The ARL-44 was regarded, since its very conception, as a transition tank to restart the French tank industry. It quickly led to other prototypes like the AMX M4, then the AMX 50 family.
@@dlrowolleh5855 yes, but even if it was a transition, which it very much was, there was initially some hope it would form some part of the french tank force in the immediate post war, but choices in design and the issues of construction caused it to be effectively dropped on the spot
One of them is rusting away just outside of mm park i feel very sad :(
Let’s goooooo, good day when Zwalada uploads
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Always fantastic work! Your editing, and comedy are top notch!
Awesome video man. You genuinely made this all interesting and captivating, and you cover history that I never even thought about. Great job, keep this up
That's the plan. Covering some more obscure stories in a somewhat interesting way👌
Bruh, shows a map of France, proceeds to talk about Paris the whole intro
Same shit different pile
@@danielschmidt4542 At least housing in France is affordable lil bro
@@danielschmidt4542It's like saying people in California and Texas are the same.
French bashers have to resort to such ways to try and make their pathetic "points".
@@puebespuebes8589as a Californian who lived in the worst neighborhood.... there's a tax to living in the hood
The ARL 44 kept many skilled automotive and military engineers in the country and prevented them from being poached by US and other foreign arms companies preventing a massive post war brain drain. It was a Job Creation and Public works project that essentially saved the French Armaments industry as well as many other side related industries without it later tanks like the AMX series would never have been built. Was it a great tank no it wasn't it was terrible, but sometimes you need to do these style public works projects to stop an industry from collapsing and preventing a brain drain. This is something France actually has a very good record at with projects like TGV, Rafale and the way the French Nuclear Industry works all allowing France to have an excellent domestic base that is competitive and allows them to punch well above their weight and is why France is one of the few nations that can produce it's own tanks or planes and unlike the US has built a number of nuclear power plants within the last 50 years this is why now that the US and the UK are going back into nuclear power they are having to hire French companies as they allowed their domestic capacity to die. As a direct result of this project France has a very successful domestic arms industry sometimes a project is more about the politics and creating capacity than the product.
I love your videos and your channel are really underrated and definitely deserves more view and sub
Thank you❤️
The point of this tank was not necessarly to create a great tank but to put french engineers back at work after these 4 years of stop where so many things evolved (sovereignty of French equipment was always very important for the French and it's not just a question of pride but also defence and jobs). And in general it did pay off, the French managed to create successfull design that was well sold outside of France during the cold war and is now the second biggest weapon manufacturer in the world. As a engineer myself, I can assure you that you get much more experience creating something rather than copying something.
At originally parish wasn’t scheduled to be liberated by allied army.
It happend that french resistance made a coup and some free french division were close.
At the end pris was liberated manly from french troops
there was a drive to liberate paris, but it was mostly a french project
De Gaulle (with agreement from the americans) ordered Leclerc and hist 2nd DB to make best speed for the capital, catching wind of this ,the French resistance in paris launched an uprising against the german garrison, which, with the helps of advanced elements of the 2nd DB, forced the germans in paris to flee or surrender
so Paris was in deed liberated by french people and french army (tho technically the first unit that entered Paris was spanish as it was constituted solely of exiled spanish republicans)
How to disguise your distaste of the French 101
Also, Paris being liberated by the French is a fact.
My guy got his info on reddit along with his memes
The url links in the description and pinned comment do not work on the short that you made to promote this. Was so interested came and found it anyways, thank you for the content!
Thank you for the heads-up ❤️ going to try to fix it
8:35 tho we did got free american sherman and pershing tanks and used them both in eastern France and western germany arcoss the rhine
People casually missing the entire point of De Gaulle's speech admist the end of the war because their country can't provide them with decent and cheap education, healthcare, and public transportation
Found the Frenchman
Anyways didn’t you boys create socialism as a government and write the dos and don’ts of both communism and fascism?
1:05 he is talking about the real france, the "free france". 🇨🇵+ Croix de loraine.
My goat ❤
Although this tank was an obsolete peace of crap right out of the drawing board, its desnig and production were still usefull to help France retain the people with the know how, on armor development. If not for this project, those people and thus the capacity to develop and build armoured vehicles would have been lost by the French.
The ARL 44 did outlive Charlie the Ghoul
hello from norway
oh come on, we know very well we couldn't have done it without the help of the allies de Gaulle knew very well, his speech in 1944 was purely strategical politics because i'm not sure if you know but president Roosevelt wanted to make France an american occupation zone
The US wanted to treat France has loser of WWII and wanted to occupy it, so the loophole with England help was to say that France liberated themself and that why FFL rush Paris before the américain
ARL was to restart the Factorys, they use M4 and Germain tanks.
The ARL was a technologie restart after WWII
De Gaulle was right Paris liberated itself and thats we the americans even drove into paris because they were just going to skip Paris
Paris was liberated by spaniards.
Si.
Idk i think it could really work good if they used it as an artillery. Just use a bigger gun and shortens it length
Viva le tonk
Viva 🇪🇸
Terrible tank in real life, my favorite tank in games
A dutchman talking about the arrogance of the french............ oh irony.
An américain saying french are self centered and have a superiority complex is quiet funny to me.😂
@@SylvesterStaline. Good think I'm dutch
But we are superior...
This video made my day. Thank you for delivering this masterpiece of a video, on a horrible French tank. I agree with you on everything you said about the French, and the ARL-44. If you show this to a French person, it will cause another French revolution.
Generally the people who like to ignore the main point of the ARL 44 (a transition and propaganda tank) are the same who keep ranting about how the AMX 30 and the EBR were failed tanks (they weren't).
Also, the video keeps claiming the French never got any Shermans from us. This is simply wrong, we sold many units to the French 1st and 2nd armoured divisions.
The French also used captured tanks, like Panthers during the Rhine offensive.
The French also kept buying equipment from us up until they could make most of their stuff on their own by the late 50s, when Israel started buying French brands instead of American brands (which caused them some diplomatic issues).
@@dlrowolleh5855 I see that someone is angry about what I said about the frogs. You need to take what I said with a grain of salt. I am well educated in history and I personally am part French myself, so your rant means nothing.
@@lukefriesenhahn8186 Man I'm a French grown man, this video made me laugh a lot, and you can come share a baguette (we'll cut it with my Opinel of course) with me whenever you like ! It's chill, we know we have to do things "the French way", and some days it even turns out fine 😀
I must add, I'm a 40 yo engineer, and one of my current problems is how often the three youngsters I'm in charge of simply brush my experienced arguments away with a simple "I like my way better" 😀
@@kartofff I will gladly share a virtual baguette with you.
Another fun fact the French had one of the smallest resistance movements of the war
WHATTTT? SO Charles de Gaulle was lying about the French liberating themselves, and it was in real the English, Canadians, American's and a hand full of other countries that did it? Tell me it ain't so!
@@zwalada ik shocking isn’t it also the polish resistance in Warsaw is one of my favourite topics of the 2nd world war it’s quite interesting
Wtf are you talking about??? We have one of the lowest déportation rate thanks to the interior resistance, because this resistance manage to extract thousand of jews out of the occupied territoires, the resistance also manage to send men to Uk for the ''libération army" who participate and sometime made, many battle like: bir hakeim, Tunisia campaign, italian campaign, participate to the normandy invasion, the french landing in southern France, the libération of Paris and of course in germany. the rôle of the french interior resistance has been essential in normandy, here js a little quote of D.eisenhower "We were depending on considerable assistance from the insurrectionists in France. Throughout France the Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign.... Without their great assistance the liberation of France and the defeat of the enemy in Western Europe would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves." so please inform yourself before saying shit about things youd dont know
@@albert_le_t-rex9112 they did have an effective but it was nowhere near the largest, the polish and the Hungarian ones easily beat it even the Yugoslav partisans
@@yuritrainspottingbro you say that after all the things i tell just above, i'm not saying that polish or yugoslav have a bad resistance (unlike you I would nevers denigrated their resistance because their were effective and brave like all the other) but can you tell me anything that they do and the french didnt do ? And btw the hungarian were and the german side so......
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This was not a great tank and it had many problems, and it's intresting to see how does the tank was developed and why it fucked up, but this video is everthing but objective, half of the video is only dedicated to pure hatred towards the french, not even explaining the point of having a 100% french tank that was more about saving our weapon industry then having actual tanks and not being another contry dependant of the us for it's army. I have nothing against the US if not the hatred they created onto us because we didn't want to participate in the constant war crime that was the gulf war. You can be proud of yourself you just bullied an entire nation. Next time be a little more objective and try to make reschearch about why they did that and not just say their are dumb because you don't understand even a bit why they didn't want to buy more americans tanks then they already had (because they had a lot of them, and didn't reallyy needed any more tanks. It was again just to save our weapon industry). I'm pretty sure you can be better then just spreading hate onto us french, the only thing you know about us is what your media told you and you claim to know us. Come take a look here (not paris), We are not perfect and there can be as much bad people as everywere else but we are not the arrogant despisable people you describe at the start of your video.
In ww2 france used ww1 tech.
In cold war france used ww2 tech.
French baguette engineering go brrrrrr.
Edit: Prob one of the best vids ive seen about the arl 44, keep cooking man, bet you will be big.
Wait there are more people that made videos about this waste of space that the French call a tank?
Cold war France used American tanks and domestic products. The domestic products exported so well that we felt bad about it (EBR, Amx 13, Amx 30, ...)
poggies!
That guy sounded very hitlerish in his speech.
Well I admire the France and I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them........ however!
Bro how do you not have more subscribers you’re an amazing content creator!
Because I'm lazy and don't upload enough 🙃
@@zwaladabro you’re my favorite TH-camr!
@@Senzu_bean_enjoyer your standaards must be very low. But thank you for the compliment ❤️