I'm sorry to hear that there might be big changes in three years! I've enjoyed your videos, machinery and hearing your discussions! Hopefully things change for the better and work out. Don't stop making the videos...it's a good place to vent with like minded farmers/people! Hang in there!
The 4 wheeler battery is not too expensive, but expensive is a relative thing. There have been times I couldn’t afford the down payment on a free hotdog. Last year I traded in an old JD lawn tractor on a new one but had to buy a new battery for the old lawn tractor because the old one wouldn’t hold a charge. I had the option of buying a new battery at Sam’s Club for $20 or letting the JD dealership sell me one at their price. I didn’t even price the battery at the dealership. I went right over to Sam’s Club with the old battery and had the new battery installed within minutes. It strikes people as being odd; buying a new lawn tractor but wincing at a $20 battery. I’ll tell you, I thought long and hard about the new lawn tractor and eventually budgeted for it. I bought it over time with zero interest if paid within 24 months. I did without a lot of things over the last year but I paid off that lawn tractor in 9 months. I could have used savings to buy it outright but chose to pay for it over time and not disturb my nest egg. But I still cringe at paying $20 for that new battery for the old mower. I wish you well, friend.
I understand your frustration with the landlord/ guy wanting to do cattle situation. What would bother me more is that if you budge this time then he will expect you to budge next time he wants to give out 5 10 15 acres? Not saying thats going to be the case but just something I'd consider. Best of luck to you, I hope the future starts looking better for PA Farms
It seems like it should be the landlord’s resposibility to put in a new fence. Would the pasture be only the cornstalks or would it be part of that overgrown tiber in the back ground ?Also you have a lease for that land that the landlord should respect. Too bad, sounds like a landlord that has been removed from the farm maybe a couple generations. Enjoy the time you have now, and good luck in the future.
I understand your frustration. Back when my family used to make there own hay and grain to feed their dairy cows. Times have changed with the economy. In order to be more productive you need to find what is value added in your buisness. Whether it is business added or directly to the customer. Look into regenerative agriculture. If you put ruminants on land they can pay you back exponentially. They import fertilizers to the land if managed right can give you high quality meat. This is something that is in high demand in this country right now.
I had the same thing happen to me on 30ac that I rented from citiots. It started with a hay field. Guy didn't even call and tell me. I found out when the other guys tractor was in the hay field. Fortunately the contract was up that year and there was no way I was going to renew it, cause of that and the fact they set the one field on fire being stupid with fireworks.
Well hopefully your lease works out as long as you want it. I enjoy your channel it seems your landlord is in the wrong asking you to give up a section of land.
Unless prices tank in three years, it sure sounds like you are going to be pushed out. I almost wonder if the guy wanting to put a fence and cows there is trying to get his foot in the door to either rent or buy the place when your lease is up. I do have to deal with rental ground but am lucky that we own our home farm. I sure hope if you want to continue farming you can find another place in the future, even if it's small and you could just purchase it. Best of luck!
On the topic of the other guy and his interest, you have it rented. Not him. Legally and personally, you can tell him and the landlord no and not feel bad. As far as continuing to farm, you can’t be afraid of spending more money to do it. This is an expensive business, as you can’t pretend like it isn’t. The reward is there and it justifies the risk. All it takes is the initiative and the fire to get it done. If you want to keep your farm alive, you may have to get down and dirty and step on some toes to do it. The neighbors would do the same if they were in your boat. Good luck over the next three years and I hope you can keep it going
You sound a bit down and very frustrated, farming is a tough enough game to be in without additional pressures from other people. Hope you find your way through these difficulties. I have been a farmer here in Australia for over 40 years, the best advice I can give you is this, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.” Proverbs 3:5&6. Regards from Down Under.
The word is "overzealous". It will catch up with them when there is another price collapse which is guaranteed . it's clear that you're getting tired and fed up with the whole miserable mess. You're equipment will never be worth any more than it is right now. Cash out and go.
I have been lucky i do a bit of land rental but still own a fair amount to keep me stable. I am also lucky to have an outside investor that needs to spend money obviously so what he buys land wise i custom farm it for him. Its worked for us so far as a niche when most want the land for themselves.
Hope you will be able to hang on to the farm after the 3 years are up. Would hate to see you disappear from the farming scene. I have always enjoyed your videos.
@@PAFarms Thats good to hear. If you have any spare time, I started posting videos of my operation on TH-cam a couple months ago, although I've been watching others for about 4 years.
I think your needing a crystal ball on that for your questions ?? When the landlord fence's the property for the guy for his cattle as we know it's the sign of change to one guy especially who you'll either get loyal or the other tenants are two faced liars, got a long complicated story of a buddy of mine but it's to long to type what happened to him in 2019. what will you do at the end of the lease, continue on farming on another farm or just call it time and relax ??. Thank you for the video update.👍
Thanks for commenting, one nice thing I have now that I didn’t used to have are two other options as far as farming. I think after the 3 years are up, we will be able to continue with TH-cam and farming.
Its what happened to our farming far north central iowa. Land prices high, rent high. And a band economy. Less established operators, or those with high overhead did not make it. 1977 thru 1980. I left. Iowa for kansas city. Did have a hobby farm, until I slowed with age. No regrets, about decisions.
High grain prices make people greedy and selfish to get more of the pie. Not all I should say though. I think you have managed your crops and machinery and decisions very well to this point.
Different state but similar scenario. In Texas, you pay to hunt. In other words landowners lease the hunting rights by the acre to hunters. You see doctors, lawyers, wealthy business men sniping hunting leases all the time. Even though you have been responsible and have taken care of the land, someone will get a hold of the landowner and offer substantially more than what you are paying. Landowner is only interested in making money so you are out at the end of the season and new person takes over. The end result.....in Texas, hunting has become a sport of the wealthy.
It"s almost pointless to rent your main farm. Extra land is ok. You have to be able to control the long term goals. Renting for only 10 years at a time, you can"t plan any further than that and ties your hands. Loans often run longer than 10 years. Just one persons thoughts for the long run.
I don't get it, if you're on a lease why would you allow 6.8 acres to go to this other cattle guy? Only if you get a financial benefit if your lease price is reduced and or he's paying you like subletting an apartment.
Grass fed cattle on 5 acres…… um so 2 head? Lol. Even if the guy does aggressive rotational grazing I would say 5 max. And that’s assuming on well established grass. Which it’s not. I run 10ish head on 30 acres In Missouri and wouldn’t attempt more. Best of luck to you PA Farms.
He shouldn't really take that bit of land off you till the tenancy agreement over 😬it will be alot of work and they wouldn't be able to keep many on 4.5acres If you finish in spring your only do two more crop's years? Would you try extending the lease? Would you try find somewhere else? Hope you're well 👍
@@PAFarms I'm glad to hear that you're gonna keep going. I live in Australia and was farming, I did buy some land (300 acres) but was farming another 1050 acres on sharecropped land. Things got hard almost a decade ago, so I leased my land out sold my equipment and took a full time job. I still own the land and have good equity now thanks to the magic of inflation. I will get back there one day. I've gotta admit that I'm a little jealous of you because you're actually doing it. Good luck!
There is a younger guy who comes over the mountain to make hay on land he got from door knocking as the next generation and I’ll tell you the local guys are not fond of him.
I'm sorry to hear that there might be big changes in three years! I've enjoyed your videos, machinery and hearing your discussions! Hopefully things change for the better and work out. Don't stop making the videos...it's a good place to vent with like minded farmers/people! Hang in there!
The 4 wheeler battery is not too expensive, but expensive is a relative thing. There have been times I couldn’t afford the down payment on a free hotdog. Last year I traded in an old JD lawn tractor on a new one but had to buy a new battery for the old lawn tractor because the old one wouldn’t hold a charge. I had the option of buying a new battery at Sam’s Club for $20 or letting the JD dealership sell me one at their price. I didn’t even price the battery at the dealership. I went right over to Sam’s Club with the old battery and had the new battery installed within minutes. It strikes people as being odd; buying a new lawn tractor but wincing at a $20 battery. I’ll tell you, I thought long and hard about the new lawn tractor and eventually budgeted for it. I bought it over time with zero interest if paid within 24 months. I did without a lot of things over the last year but I paid off that lawn tractor in 9 months. I could have used savings to buy it outright but chose to pay for it over time and not disturb my nest egg. But I still cringe at paying $20 for that new battery for the old mower. I wish you well, friend.
Nice video. If I where you I’d try to get back on your family farm if that’s still a option. Will the 986 be up for sale anytime in the near future?
I understand your frustration with the landlord/ guy wanting to do cattle situation. What would bother me more is that if you budge this time then he will expect you to budge next time he wants to give out 5 10 15 acres? Not saying thats going to be the case but just something I'd consider. Best of luck to you, I hope the future starts looking better for PA Farms
It seems like it should be the landlord’s resposibility to put in a new fence. Would the pasture be only the cornstalks or would it be part of that overgrown tiber in the back ground ?Also you have a lease for that land that the landlord should respect. Too bad, sounds like a landlord that has been removed from the farm maybe a couple generations. Enjoy the time you have now, and good luck in the future.
I understand your frustration. Back when my family used to make there own hay and grain to feed their dairy cows. Times have changed with the economy. In order to be more productive you need to find what is value added in your buisness. Whether it is business added or directly to the customer. Look into regenerative agriculture. If you put ruminants on land they can pay you back exponentially. They import fertilizers to the land if managed right can give you high quality meat. This is something that is in high demand in this country right now.
I had the same thing happen to me on 30ac that I rented from citiots. It started with a hay field. Guy didn't even call and tell me. I found out when the other guys tractor was in the hay field. Fortunately the contract was up that year and there was no way I was going to renew it, cause of that and the fact they set the one field on fire being stupid with fireworks.
Well hopefully your lease works out as long as you want it. I enjoy your channel it seems your landlord is in the wrong asking you to give up a section of land.
In my area of SW Ontario we have the same problem with guys trying to snake already rented land, they're called the Dutch.
whats wrong whit the Dutch, hardest working farmers all over the world
@@mennoreuten1563 In sw Ontario they are the pushiest, greediest, most condescending self entitled farmers there is simple as that...
Unless prices tank in three years, it sure sounds like you are going to be pushed out. I almost wonder if the guy wanting to put a fence and cows there is trying to get his foot in the door to either rent or buy the place when your lease is up. I do have to deal with rental ground but am lucky that we own our home farm. I sure hope if you want to continue farming you can find another place in the future, even if it's small and you could just purchase it. Best of luck!
Where I'm at it seems when people sell a new warehouse goes up. I suppose that it adds another competitor to the mix for land.
Are you selling any tractors?
On the topic of the other guy and his interest, you have it rented. Not him. Legally and personally, you can tell him and the landlord no and not feel bad. As far as continuing to farm, you can’t be afraid of spending more money to do it. This is an expensive business, as you can’t pretend like it isn’t. The reward is there and it justifies the risk. All it takes is the initiative and the fire to get it done. If you want to keep your farm alive, you may have to get down and dirty and step on some toes to do it. The neighbors would do the same if they were in your boat. Good luck over the next three years and I hope you can keep it going
Have to plant grass first. Then 4.6 acres will only provide enough grass for maybe a couple unless you want a mud pit. Hes got to be young or citiot.
You sound a bit down and very frustrated, farming is a tough enough game to be in without additional pressures from other people. Hope you find your way through these difficulties. I have been a farmer here in Australia for over 40 years, the best advice I can give you is this, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.” Proverbs 3:5&6. Regards from Down Under.
The word is "overzealous". It will catch up with them when there is another price collapse which is guaranteed . it's clear that you're getting tired and fed up with the whole miserable mess. You're equipment will never be worth any more than it is right now. Cash out and go.
I have been lucky i do a bit of land rental but still own a fair amount to keep me stable. I am also lucky to have an outside investor that needs to spend money obviously so what he buys land wise i custom farm it for him. Its worked for us so far as a niche when most want the land for themselves.
I wanna get into it but I only own 110 acres. How much more land would i need to lease to start? Ty for your time.
Hope you will be able to hang on to the farm after the 3 years are up. Would hate to see you disappear from the farming scene. I have always enjoyed your videos.
Thanks, we have some options we are working on for the future. I think it will be good
@@PAFarms Thats good to hear. If you have any spare time, I started posting videos of my operation on TH-cam a couple months ago, although I've been watching others for about 4 years.
You're a great narration man. Look into for a side business m
I think your needing a crystal ball on that for your questions ?? When the landlord fence's the property for the guy for his cattle as we know it's the sign of change to one guy especially who you'll either get loyal or the other tenants are two faced liars, got a long complicated story of a buddy of mine but it's to long to type what happened to him in 2019. what will you do at the end of the lease, continue on farming on another farm or just call it time and relax ??. Thank you for the video update.👍
Thanks for commenting, one nice thing I have now that I didn’t used to have are two other options as far as farming. I think after the 3 years are up, we will be able to continue with TH-cam and farming.
Its what happened to our farming far north central iowa. Land prices high, rent high. And a band economy. Less established operators, or those with high overhead did not make it. 1977 thru 1980. I left. Iowa for kansas city. Did have a hobby farm, until I slowed with age. No regrets, about decisions.
Guy needs his own sawmill for them posts ain’t… hopefully your not out a bunch on that field dutchy good video!
Down here we call them ground hogs. Ive had ground taken away from me and my friends.
High grain prices make people greedy and selfish to get more of the pie. Not all I should say though. I think you have managed your crops and machinery and decisions very well to this point.
Different state but similar scenario. In Texas, you pay to hunt. In other words landowners lease the hunting rights by the acre to hunters. You see doctors, lawyers, wealthy business men sniping hunting leases all the time. Even though you have been responsible and have taken care of the land, someone will get a hold of the landowner and offer substantially more than what you are paying. Landowner is only interested in making money so you are out at the end of the season and new person takes over. The end result.....in Texas, hunting has become a sport of the wealthy.
The interest rate keep going up and everything else.some will get in debt will broke them
Yea, I’m glad to be debt free, less pressure
There is an old saying
Livestock dead stock
what year is your 685?
1989 I think
What up PA farms?
Here the pilgrims are looking for ag exemption on property taxes
Dont worry we some this farmers do this same thing in the latel 70 s and early 80s by the mid 80 s a lot of them whet broke
It"s almost pointless to rent your main farm. Extra land is ok. You have to be able to control the long term goals. Renting for only 10 years at a time, you can"t plan any further than that and ties your hands. Loans often run longer than 10 years. Just one persons thoughts for the long run.
I don't get it, if you're on a lease why would you allow 6.8 acres to go to this other cattle guy?
Only if you get a financial benefit if your lease price is reduced and or he's paying you like subletting an apartment.
Grass fed cattle on 5 acres…… um so 2 head? Lol. Even if the guy does aggressive rotational grazing I would say 5 max. And that’s assuming on well established grass. Which it’s not. I run 10ish head on 30 acres In Missouri and wouldn’t attempt more. Best of luck to you PA Farms.
Get a cdl and start buying land.
He shouldn't really take that bit of land off you till the tenancy agreement over 😬it will be alot of work and they wouldn't be able to keep many on 4.5acres
If you finish in spring your only do two more crop's years?
Would you try extending the lease?
Would you try find somewhere else?
Hope you're well 👍
I have had two other options come up this year so I’m probably going to be able to continue elsewhere.
And don't think it's legal I'd be talking to a lawyer your land lord is violating your lease him self lol
@@PAFarms I'm glad to hear that you're gonna keep going. I live in Australia and was farming, I did buy some land (300 acres) but was farming another 1050 acres on sharecropped land. Things got hard almost a decade ago, so I leased my land out sold my equipment and took a full time job. I still own the land and have good equity now thanks to the magic of inflation. I will get back there one day. I've gotta admit that I'm a little jealous of you because you're actually doing it. Good luck!
Sounds like ur slowly getting pushed out
There is a younger guy who comes over the mountain to make hay on land he got from door knocking as the next generation and I’ll tell you the local guys are not fond of him.
But that's what Farm Credit is telling farmers to do