F. Chopin - Waltz A-minor - Newly Discovered in 2024 - Analysis - Greg Niemczuk

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  • @matthewwilliams7158
    @matthewwilliams7158 วันที่ผ่านมา +103

    A Chopin piece can’t be official till this guy gives an analysis

    • @mvanbaarsen
      @mvanbaarsen 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Quite so! I sometimes wonder if Greg might be a descendant from him.

  • @RhodesyYT
    @RhodesyYT วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    I KNEW THERE WAS MORE OUT THERE!! I thought all of the hidden waltzes were in private collections

  • @vault587
    @vault587 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Was really looking forward to your video on this. I knew it was coming!

  • @thewordbtrue2461
    @thewordbtrue2461 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    We are privileged to hear your analysis and again,
    Thank you!!! 🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @fishwhosmokesopium6645
    @fishwhosmokesopium6645 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Wow i was just reading an article about this piece and was looking for more info! Great video!

    • @mickizurcher
      @mickizurcher วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you post the link where you read the article? Thank you.

    • @oxoelfoxo
      @oxoelfoxo วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mickizurcher it's in the New York Times originally but subscriber only. maybe other news outlets have reports by now

  • @GuntherWolfen
    @GuntherWolfen วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Amazing discovery! Thank you Greg for bring this to us and thank you for the analysis 😄

  • @barbarafletcher121
    @barbarafletcher121 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I learned about this via an online New York Times piece. I wondered then if you had heard about it! I'm not surprised that YOU are not surprised about the discovery. What makes me happiest, though, is that it has returned you to your analyses of musical pieces!! They're unique and wonderful, and I hope you will continue to do this more often!

  • @tobiedavis8841
    @tobiedavis8841 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    We missed you!❤ so glad to see another analysis! You are my absolute favourite creator on TH-cam!
    I would love to see your analysis of the chopin concertos, i know your probably to busy though. ❤

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I am! But maybe next year

  • @thewordbtrue2461
    @thewordbtrue2461 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm so excited!! Thank you Greg!! I'm all ears🎉

  • @wedemeyerr
    @wedemeyerr วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Unbelievable!!!! ❤❤❤❤

  • @Timothy-c4p
    @Timothy-c4p วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Greg, if it’s Chopin, I would say the introduction is a little unusual. Since the bass is like a drone while the right hand melody repeats itself before making two quick chord changes. That reaches a climax on a higher register diminished 7th chord. So the introduction is bit harsh with those repeated diminished 7th chords. But those two quick chord changes sound odd. And rather abrupt for Chopin. However, when the main melody does begin, it’s the sound of Chopin. Where the music flows naturally before going to a gentle C major chord that offsets the darker sound of the minor tonality. So overall, I find the A minor drone of the introduction with it’s two quick chord changes to be uncharacteristic of Chopin. But, if I remember something about one of Chopin’s Mazurkas in Eb minor, with its unusual tonality, its very fast tempo, and unusual melodic rhythms, he can write music that can surprise you.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe that was some sort of an experiment.... I agree with you!

    • @d_rivadeneyra
      @d_rivadeneyra 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      He has a lot of music that sounds harsh like that. His prelude (also in a minor) wich has really harsh dissonances reminds me a lot of that opening. The intro also sounds a lot like the first theme of his fourth ballade. The last movement of his 2nd sonata, also really harsh. Etc, etc, etc.

  • @謝琦琦-y3l
    @謝琦琦-y3l วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard of this news and piece yesterday from a TH-camr named nice chord.Therefore I was wondering about your points of view. Your analysis is just fantastic .I appreciate you point out many things for whoever loves classical music to think and question.As you study Chopin most your analysis is so reliable and precious to me.Thank you so much for your work 💕💕

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    First Mozart, now Chopin. What a time to be alive.

    • @ptyminski
      @ptyminski 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤖🤖🤖

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ptyminskiWait for Trumps military donaldonaise, soon to be dropped! All our favorite undead are back!

  • @popqueen77
    @popqueen77 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Unbelievable!❤ Thank you so much for introducing this unknown piece to us! And what a ways to be introduced with your analysis🥲. I am moved ✨🙏🏻❤️

  • @BettyjaneSurabian
    @BettyjaneSurabian วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Much appreciated Maestro. I would easily put your opinion as "expert" so your views hold alot of weight for me. Thanks again.

  • @ebiouc7184
    @ebiouc7184 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I miss your analysis sooo much Grieg❤❤❤

  • @brozors
    @brozors วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I thought it was really hard to tell how good this waltz is with Lang Lang playing it not like a waltz.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Bang Bang plays it like an Andante asthmatico rubatissimo e tackyssimo 🙈

  • @PierreLM
    @PierreLM วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Greg, the number one expert on classical music actuality ! Merci pour la vidéo !

  • @jithanthvainatheya2733
    @jithanthvainatheya2733 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always a day to celebrate when you upload Sir, incredible analysis!

  • @sholemgimpel6050
    @sholemgimpel6050 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes! Clearly, a middle part in a "smiling" key is expected, but missing! Thank you!

  • @T-J-S
    @T-J-S วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I should have watched this before learning it lol. I'm so happy to see this piece and your analysis here! I loved listening to this analysis

  • @michelangelovaccaro8191
    @michelangelovaccaro8191 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    30 seconds long fragment and Greg can still show how rich it is. Maybe this was just 20 years old Chopin experimenting over some Liszt pieces he heard in Paris? The Times says that this is from that period but to me it sounds very much like the experimenting late Chopin

    • @yucatron76
      @yucatron76 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It sounds like 1840’s Chopin. How strange.

    • @michelangelovaccaro8191
      @michelangelovaccaro8191 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ Chopin was already ahead of his times

  • @jarosawyarand5984
    @jarosawyarand5984 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Genialnie przedstawiona analiza. Nawet osobie tak nie wyrobionej muzycznie jak ja pokazuje istotę i piękno muzyki Chopina. Lubię słuchać czasami muzyki klasycznej, Chopina również ale na zasadzie; albo mi się podoba albo nie.Pan pokazał mi jak widzieć i rozpoznawać Chopina. Dziękuję.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Cudownie!!! Zapraszam do oglądania innych moich analiz - jest ich bardzo dużo!

  • @bongaz3547
    @bongaz3547 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not a relevant find but still so exiting !! A little blessing for the day

  • @RenataBłażejewska-p9b
    @RenataBłażejewska-p9b วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dzięki stokrotne😊😊

  • @piano_gil
    @piano_gil วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for this video ❤. I think I have got answers on my questions regarding this piece

  • @PhilHarrison762
    @PhilHarrison762 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for bringing authentic and expert comment so soon... I hope NIFC has the good sense to take your views. (I agree I'd have preferred exposition before analysis, though.) You never let us down, Greg😃😃😃

  • @eduardo-v5b2t
    @eduardo-v5b2t วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As always very interesting ......

  • @joaquinoliveraz11
    @joaquinoliveraz11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is so cool! Thanks for bringing this up so fast! Btw, the Waltz kinda reminds me of some Mazurkas, i guess.... but who knows! Thanks for the content!

  • @vk7898
    @vk7898 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are wonderful to know Chopin's music / so much information you giv).
    Thank you for your explanation/ meaning and YOURS exceptional journey through the music.
    I am wondering about If Chopin's works would be played with the passion, as you do .
    I believe that he would say "I just tried to teach them, but you did it"
    Wonderful video and wonderful presentation.
    I follow you on your turné in Scandinavia and Praga.
    Thank you for your music 🎵 🎶 🎵

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you very much!

  • @takjezdzimy7381
    @takjezdzimy7381 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cześć Grzegorzu :) analiza zapowiada się mega ciekawie

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Po polsku też będzie! Jeszcze dzisiaj!

    • @ewapiano1222
      @ewapiano1222 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thank you!

  • @RoccoOnPiano
    @RoccoOnPiano วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for taking the time to make this brilliant video and sharing it with all of us! Given that this piece depicts much pain and suffering, when do you think it would have been composed? Perhaps during the late 1840s?

  • @josac7602
    @josac7602 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hi Greg, will you still make an analysis of Chopin's op. 46 Allegro de Concert? 😊

  • @bigmac9636
    @bigmac9636 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes! Glad you were quick to do an analysis on the new fantastic waltz :)
    Edit: Interesting how you say its kind of an introduction to perhaps another waltz, because apparently (on wiki at least) Chopin did compose a waltz featuring a prelude at the beginning, which has not been found yet, so this could potentially be it?

  • @mvanbaarsen
    @mvanbaarsen 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you very much, Greg, for your stunning analysis of this fairly odd waltz. To me, it sounds like an Unvollendete avant la lettre 😏

  • @kakhigiorgadze8487
    @kakhigiorgadze8487 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think it could be a VERY early sketch. the musical characteristics are there. in a way I feel like these motives are seen in his other music but more refined. I only suspect the form and structure of the piece which is definitely not Chopin, but again this could be because it's a sketch. before coming to any conclusions we have to wait what the experts say, where did the sources come from and cet.

  • @mickizurcher
    @mickizurcher วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree, it is very sophisticated, the modulations, etc. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was Chopin, who can get so wonderfully intense?
    What can you tell us about the origins of this manuscript?
    Thanks so much. This was great to hear.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You say it as if the authenticity is in question. I read the articles about it and it is clearly an original.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's really not sophisticated.

  • @Tbilii
    @Tbilii วันที่ผ่านมา

    i remember following your youtube channel since you had 2k subscribers.
    i always enjoy watching your videos i love chopin, i love his pieces.
    Can you soon begin analyzing another composer pieces maybe?
    or its just for chopin ?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You really remember that? Wow!
      I think I will! I was thinking about Mozart's Sonatas first. We will see. I also have many concerts so it's not like it used to be in the pandemic.....

  • @nikocuneo2589
    @nikocuneo2589 วันที่ผ่านมา

    YESSS

  • @ronaldbirkelbach4360
    @ronaldbirkelbach4360 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm skeptical about this piece. I don't think it's stylistically Chopin in any stage of his composition evolution. How could this be in the collection of an "autograph collector" and he not bring this to someone's attention?
    Love your channel, btw! I play a lot of Chopin, and you always give me another perspective which is very value to me.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks a lot! I was skeptical just like you! But after playing it through 30-40 times I started to believe....

    • @theodorek.4563
      @theodorek.4563 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I am also skeptical. In the age of AI, how coincidental would it be to find a Mozart and a Chopin piece in the same year? Can newly discovered posthumous works ever be trusted again?! I want to believe though and I will trust the experts on this one.

  • @dancohenhemsi163
    @dancohenhemsi163 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hello Greg the king!!!! Great to see an other video by you, after I saw all of them! I looked at the score. Chopin's wrote FFF, at the begining, not even after FF. That is not typical to Chopin's, I think there in not even 1 piace by him with 3f before 2f. What do you think about that? Liszt and Tschaikowsky can write 3f without any logic, but Chopin, in my opinion, not

    • @mickizurcher
      @mickizurcher 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I disagree. I do not think Chopin is predictable. Fff sounds good to me.

  • @Coffebucks
    @Coffebucks 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Chopin nice ❤

  • @jenskluge7188
    @jenskluge7188 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It might be a sketch from the time when he also wrote the f# minor polonaise and was experimenting with new forms (he tried out a Mazurka within a polonaise there). Definitely it would not be an early piece. Also, he did write unconventional and striking introductions at times. So it is quite possible that this piece begins differently than the other valses.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      There are (brief) introductions in several waltzes.
      Also I disagree about this being a work of Chopin's maturity. Sounds immature to me. If that sounds too harsh: not very idiomatic. Could be a work by (almost) anyone.

  • @neilyates1102
    @neilyates1102 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chopin's final mazurka is clearly a work written by him although possibly not completed; however, composers have written some very short compositions especially in times of emotional stress. To me, this "valse" is not a completed composition but just a fragment of a valse that might have been. It looks like Chopin's handwriting and may be by him but it is nothing more than a sketch or fragment and cannot stand as a piece on its own. So, while it is interesting it is probably something that Chopin would have thrown away if he was not inspired to do more with it! We are looking at music that should have been in Chopin's waste basket and it was things like this that he had in mind when he asked that some of his fellow composers go over his remaining unpublished works after his death and to destroy anything not worthy of him.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      At someone stating the obvious! Thank you!

  • @Zarty-Music
    @Zarty-Music วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the masterclass! The abrupt ending on A minor after movig to C seems strange to me. As far as I know the Op. 70 no. 2 is the only Chopin's waltz that presents a modulating first theme that moves from a minor mode to its relative major like here, but in that case it simply moves away from the initial key. Since this looks like a sketch, I wonder if those last two bars were a temporary solution by Chopin or whoever wrote the manuscript, to end the piece "for now", instead of proceeding to the second theme, presumably in C major or another contrasting key.
    Another thing that bugs me is the repeat sign, as Introductions are usually not repeated. But then again, as this is a ketch not meant for performance, I can imagine some details were overlooked by the writter.
    Anyways, great work here, you earned a new subscriber!

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. I agree with you and your hesitations. It's just a sketch. That's all.

  • @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay
    @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay วันที่ผ่านมา

    The beginning reminds me of Chopin's prelude No. 14 in e-flat minor.

    • @mickizurcher
      @mickizurcher วันที่ผ่านมา

      In what regard?

  • @michelcamachomusic
    @michelcamachomusic 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Update to the comment i made before. 4 hours ago I was playing the waltz over and over and i composed the missing section B and concluded the waltz, I'll upload a version very soon, was studying it a lot cause it's pretty challenging with the composed section and development. Indeed I can confirm 90% it is by Chopin. I said 90% cause I feel 1 bar is missing between bar 23-24 it feels like something is missing but it could be omitted with tricky performance. I later read the NY times article which it's very complete, and many of my theories were similar to what they talked about. I assume this was written by Chopin as a gift postcard, so he maybe was in a rush or something before writing it. The way it was played by Lang Lang is not correct in my opinion. This Waltz should be played kinda like Op. Posthumous in E minor. Of course without more context it could be performed differently but after concluding it I'm pretty sure this should be fast.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I don't dare to compose the B section.... I could but I simply don't dare....
      Also, probably there would also be a C section at least, and the coda. Who knows ... We'll never know

  • @michelcamachomusic
    @michelcamachomusic วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I still believe this is not by Chopin at all, after listening to other versions and play it myself. And if it is, is an unfinished work, it is obvious is unfinished in my opinion. He could really surprise you composing something unusual like Prelude op.28 no.14 or the mazurka in eb minor among other works that could sound different to his more well known music. Chopin would vary the second presentation of the theme i.e, (instead of repeating the whole thing) even is not too much but he would do, before going to a second part or B section. There are other reasons why I don't consider this is a work by Chopin at all. It was created by someone very skilled without doubt and it's nothing surprising since romanticism were fulled of great unknown or forgotten composers. The first bars sounds more of the middle part of Rachmaninoff's C# sharp prelude to me than a Chopin's scherzo (I'm not saying this was composed by Rachmaninoff of course not) anyways, i appreciate the effort you put in your video and analysis, which it's good and valuable. I have some theories behind this work: 1. It was written by a fan of chopin, a student or a person who wanted to get money from it.
    2. It was written by other composer who wanted to play a joke, or just composed in his style or a similar approach to chopin and somebody replaced the name to Chopin's name
    3. It was written by Chopin himself but he regretted on publishing and preferred to keep it away from public eye. It is known he could even cry if he felt that a composition was not good enough and it could spend days Locked up in his room (as reported by Georges Sand in his staying at Mallorca island)

  • @nojohns1748
    @nojohns1748 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing. Many Thanks for the quick video! The piece feels a little unfinished, what kind of embellishment would you recommend if i want to play a "proper" ending?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's hard to write it here. I think you have freedom to chose what seems best to you.

  • @mickizurcher
    @mickizurcher 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Maestro any chance you c’could post a screenshot of the score so we could all touch the heavens for a moment?!

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You can find it on the internet. Google it!

  • @jordidewaard2937
    @jordidewaard2937 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting! I agree it could very well be Chopin.
    I hope at the very least that it was written by a human composer, though from hearing other A.I. pieces, I doubt A.I. could produce such a piece at this point.

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When is It supposed to have been composed? Which year?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Between 1830-1835

    • @alessandropelizzoli6613
      @alessandropelizzoli6613 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@gregniemczukok, thanks a lot.

  • @hstanekovic
    @hstanekovic 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It also sounds like a possible mazurka?

  • @foljamb
    @foljamb 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    unconvincing doubt, mastro greg--as for extreme dynamic markings that may or may not indicate authorship, maybe a copyist actually wrote the middle section of op 9 #1..then, you know, slipped it in... for me there is no doubt that this piece is a fragment or incipit of late chopin when he was experimenting with the waltz as he was with the polonaise

  • @musimedmusi8736
    @musimedmusi8736 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wonderful analysis, but it would have been much more satisfying if he had simply played the whole piece before analyzing it. Analyzing it without first playing it only really works when it’s a piece everybody already knows.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ahhh thank you so much for this comment. I agree with you!! I thought about that after I finished analyses ("oh, I'm talking too much at the beginning instead of playing".....)But now it's too late....
      I recorded it in a separate video...

  • @SharonChenMusic
    @SharonChenMusic 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does not sound like early Chopin ? Thanks ..

  • @h.jzimmermann9594
    @h.jzimmermann9594 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dieser neu entdeckte a- Moll-Walzer ist hübsch, aber sehr kurz. Wann aber wird endlich Chopins Walzer H-Dur von 1848 aus dem Privatbesitz veröffentlicht?

  • @lukasfrancis4567
    @lukasfrancis4567 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How convinced are you this is 100% Chopin? I am convinced although i think it might have been a gift to somebody, hence never being published or in the public eye since

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm more and more convinced

  • @bigos_regnum
    @bigos_regnum 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    imagine prompt: waltz in style of chopin

  • @RModillo
    @RModillo 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a clear photo or reliable transcription of the manuscript?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's a reliable transcript of the manuscript

    • @RModillo
      @RModillo 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregniemczuk I meant, that the rest of us can see. Is there a clean photo of the postcard out there?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @RModillo yes

  • @Michelangelopiano
    @Michelangelopiano วันที่ผ่านมา

    name ? wear can i heare this watlz

  • @fionauys4958
    @fionauys4958 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Greg where can I get the sheets?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Google it!

    • @fionauys4958
      @fionauys4958 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregniemczuk I can't find proper sheets 😭

  • @Heroicpolonaise
    @Heroicpolonaise 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What does this piece differ from Chopin mazurkas? The first idea that came to my mind was this is one of those...

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      His handwritten title: Valse - 😀😀😀😀

    • @Heroicpolonaise
      @Heroicpolonaise 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregniemczuk :D that's the point I'm aware of, but besides that? It really sounds to me a bit like mazurka in F sharp :)

  • @monuum
    @monuum วันที่ผ่านมา

    This waltz sounds like Mazurka à Émile Gaillard

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thought the same. The mazurka is incomparably better though. And not only because it's a complete, developed piece.

  • @rudolfpianos
    @rudolfpianos 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is late Chopin for sure

  • @dannilosouza4955
    @dannilosouza4955 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It reminds me Clara Schumann

  • @josealvarenga3198
    @josealvarenga3198 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This new piece was done by A.I

    • @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay
      @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay วันที่ผ่านมา

      ChopGPT

    • @izenkixiron5173
      @izenkixiron5173 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Impressive feat, if that's true. Not only AI did forge Chopin's handwriting, it was able to produce it on a period-accurate piece of paper! (Sarcasm, of course. They checked both the handwriting and the age of the paper it's written before announcing this discovery, according the NYT article.)

    • @josealvarenga3198
      @josealvarenga3198 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This kind if stuff is not only happening in music so that you know. A beautiful well preserved Roman statue was just recently found in Bulgarian city.

  • @yuiop987
    @yuiop987 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was listening to this stuff for 10 minutes, but real Chopin's piece didn't come up. I cannot judge about the music from merely talking. He ought to have played the whole piece first and then analyze it.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know I should. But I recorded it in a separate video.... Believing that people would listen to it first before the analysis.
      Now it's too late

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video! I don't think that it is a real Chopin piece. That's just my opinion...

  • @johntitor.
    @johntitor. 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    AI?

  • @ahmadalghiffari2653
    @ahmadalghiffari2653 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Liszt might be the next one😂

  • @1141951fraffly
    @1141951fraffly 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    There are no degrees of uniqueness you know. Not "The mos unqiue hotel in London"!

  • @aeroslayer2
    @aeroslayer2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It sounds like a Rachmaninov composition

  • @neshomk
    @neshomk 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice music, well analyzed and entertaining. But I think this is AI generated

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Impossible. They found original paper from 1830-1835.

    • @neshomk
      @neshomk 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @gregniemczuk Chopin didn't use to write his name on top of his compositions, the triple forte mark is very suspicious, the 3/4 time signature indicates a valse, why would he write Valse as redundant information in the beginning.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @neshomk yes, the name Chopin is not written by his hand. That's 100% confirmed. But the notes are written by him 100%