Steven Pinker: Danger of moral panic over “fake news”

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  • Social media companies face a tough choice in censoring their users. Steven Pinker joins Steven Edginton to discuss rationality, big tech companies and conspiracy theories in the latest Off Script podcast. Watch the full episode above or search “Off Script” on your podcast app.
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  • @AndreiGromit
    @AndreiGromit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is refreshing to hear Pinker express things with more precision and clarity than many many other interviewees on this podcast.

  • @TheFinav
    @TheFinav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can't deny I learned a lot about the interviewer's opinions.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup. His idiotic bias was sadly obvious.

    • @artexjay
      @artexjay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davehogan6589 in which way? he was asking fair questions, going both ways, highlighting the obvious bias on those social media platforms which are not wrong.

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the idea of rationality because I am a champion of Manskills.
    A Manskill had three elements.
    - Requires Thought
    - Demands Effort
    - Produces some Good
    Being rational is absolutely essential to the first element, but I think a case can be made that it has a place in the other two as well.

  • @TabooRevolution13
    @TabooRevolution13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started a new country on the west coast in 2014 now I'm 1st King of the continent in the 1st Noocracy Republic!

  • @leafmealoynederpydeu85
    @leafmealoynederpydeu85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to read this!

  • @bradsillasen1972
    @bradsillasen1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pinker shines!

  • @JaneHasGame
    @JaneHasGame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A rational interview all around

  • @italotter
    @italotter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope everyone listened until the very, very end. Pinker says, "thanks for the conversation." That was an astute thing to say. Anyone who thought that the interviewer was expressing rather too many of his left-leaning ideas should consider this a conversation style and not a classic question/answer interview. It was engaging content as a conversation.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Interviewer was left leaning??? Nope

    • @AndreiGromit
      @AndreiGromit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I did think Steve Edgington was sort of 'leading the witness' in this interview. But even as a conversation, it seemed that Pinker was not willing to offer opposite opinions, although he did bring precision to ideas and opinions.

    • @garypalmer1122
      @garypalmer1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The interviewer worked originally at the Sun - a Rupert Murdoch publication, and now works for the UK Daily Telegraph. Both of these are right wing.

    • @barrynewlander1469
      @barrynewlander1469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The interviewer is clearly a right-winger. He even manages to fudge some facts. Pinker doesn't really belong here.

    • @MrPaulervin78744
      @MrPaulervin78744 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      left leaning?!!? HAHAHAHHA

  • @arthurpletcher7299
    @arthurpletcher7299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just to clarify, Mueller concluded that collusion likely did occur, but the case wasn’t prosecutable. Similar to how Capone was indeed guilty, even though he couldn’t be prosecuted.

  • @shawnburnham1
    @shawnburnham1 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00

  • @briannyob7799
    @briannyob7799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”-Mark Twain.
    The problem with giving antivaxers equal time...

    • @elkpaz560
      @elkpaz560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      World travel your thing then.

  • @davidrandell2224
    @davidrandell2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How likely will Galilean relative motion have the earth approaching the released object? 50/50 at least, or many other options? An accelerometer shows the earth approaching the released object at 16 feet per second per second constant acceleration. Too simple for the modern brain. Rational. Sure. Aren’t facts rational.

  • @duncanweller1
    @duncanweller1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pinker does his best staying on topic with an interviewer who is clearly right-wing biased and not particularly interested in rationality or the truth of things.

    • @desssunder5578
      @desssunder5578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I find it interesting and great to hear how Pinker navigates such questions. It would be quite a boring interview if the interviewer just stuck to central questions and didn't ask difficult questions. it just shows how well Pinker knows his topics and highlights he's debating skills as top tier.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed.

    • @baigandinel7956
      @baigandinel7956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lazy, outdated labels assuming any of the "right wing" are not intetrested in rationality or the truth of things, do not themselves constitute any part of the search for rationality or the truth of things.

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yese, we all klnow rationality and the side of reaality is the one who unironically votd for an installed vegetable lwho cant speak, destroying the country in one year, over the best pres in modern history

  • @matimus100
    @matimus100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently praying and karma is going to resolve these world 🌎 issues
    What's the problem says the 🇬🇧

  • @ladlane
    @ladlane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the end, we gotta admit that Sweden ranks best in the world at handling the pandemic.

    • @dutube99
      @dutube99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We do?

  • @anteeko
    @anteeko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fact checking has been rather unrelible to say the least.

  • @christopherhamilton3621
    @christopherhamilton3621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The science =/= scientists. Just because scientists may not agree doesn’t mean science per se is in conflict. This is exactly the literalist/absolutist fallacy that the religious/right inject into this debate as a form of their own (ironic) relativism.

  • @matthewcurry3565
    @matthewcurry3565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Obtaining realistic information is a goal of its own right. He says there can't be quality, or perfect rationality yet complains about the whole thing. Lmao this dude is comedy gold.

    • @matthewcurry3565
      @matthewcurry3565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Just_Call_Me_Frank well that is easy to say without explanation. Thus is the method of irrational people. Woops.

  • @leec4185
    @leec4185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What Pinker will never get is that prosperity is no substitute for the lack of meaning humans need.

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Think of prosperity as the ideal political platform from which we can all find personal meaning. I mean, even Victor Frankl found personal meaning while captive in the concentration camps, but I think we can agree that that context was far from the ideal political platform

  • @imaginationworker9144
    @imaginationworker9144 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The interviewer comes across as full of himself, over-emotional, and not intellectually qualified to conduct this kind of interview.

  • @dottedrhino
    @dottedrhino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a joke

  • @ZoeSummers1701A
    @ZoeSummers1701A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The right-wing conservative bias of the interviewer comes out yet again.

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm... Yeah. If only it had been left-wing radical activist bias.

    • @ruairidhmcmillan2484
      @ruairidhmcmillan2484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which question was the give away for a political bias of any kind whatsoever? Why am I asking this, this is a terrible idea.

    • @duncanweller1
      @duncanweller1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Edginton is beyond the pale with his conservative opinions, so blindly it seems that it actually makes Pinker's unbiased responses so refreshing. Unfortunately I think right wingers won't listen take in anything Pinker says. I'm astonished that people think Pinker is anything like Jordan Peterson. Pinker is left-wing and has said so. Because that't the only rational way to vote in most countries. The right wing has so lost their minds.

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right or left it's cowardly

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed!

  • @sudarshankhadka8501
    @sudarshankhadka8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy is one of the best interviewers out there! More please!

    • @MarkMark
      @MarkMark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol really?

    • @elkpaz560
      @elkpaz560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkMark Yes.

  • @jaygriffiths6793
    @jaygriffiths6793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found the interviewer more interesting than the interviewee.

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's definitely a sheep to the system

  • @MrPaulervin78744
    @MrPaulervin78744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IRONY=Him (interviewer) going tribal "conservative" rant about Trump, while saying "alot of people" thought they were being rational and the prof calming telling him what was up.