As a Frenchman who lived for 7 years in The Netherlands, I can say this means a lot to us! However the road ahead is still long. As we start to see some decent bike lines downtown of most major cities, many suburbs and country side areas still lack the proper infrastructure. Also, short intercity bike trips which can be very nice in NL (for instance between Delft and The Hague that I have done many times) are not a thing yet here in France.
Problem is, walking & bicycles are for local trips, close to home. The same thing can be said about trams when compared to cars or metro/underground systems. A lot of people come from the suburbs to work in Paris, and need their cars (for shipping, goods delivery or business trips).
@@teran1237 There are physical limitations on how many people can use their car in and out of Paris (or any cities for this matter). Transit will always be more effective in a +10 millions metropolis. For instance, the RER A moves more people daily than the entire ring highway around Paris for a fraction of the space used for the convinience of drivers (not to mention the pollution and the energy wasted). Delivery trucks are also a big part of the trafic in central Paris, howerever we should consider using less of Amazon or Wish, instead of giving them more space at the expense of pedestrian, cyclists and public transport users. Other cities like Brussels have also put in place dedicated hours for delivery so for the rest of the day the street are not cluttered by vans.
As a frenchman what is happening in Paris is great but is happening way too slow. Everything that's been done in the past 5 years should have been done 10 years earlier. We have a behemoth of a bureaucracy that constantly slows down projects like this because of an everlasting administrative procedure. It's exhausting.
I think cars should become what motorcycles are currently: a hobby for the middle class, not a requirement for adult life. While cars will still be needed in rural areas (although bus lines and bike paths can make many small towns walkable and eliminate the need for cars for everyone), I think we should design cities such that cars are not required for adult life. This means creating complex networks of heavy and light rail systems in cities and making every city and town with more than 10,000 residents be connected to rail networks (like they were before the idiots of the post WWII era demolished our rail infrastructure for short sighted policy gain). Cars should be for fun, not a requirement for daily life.
@@jonathanbowers8964 This exactly, private passenger motoring should be an exception, not the norm of getting around. Public and shared delivery services for people and goods (excluding uber, door dash and other _platform exploitation_ business models) can easily cover huge lump of the transportation needs that are now fulfilled by the most inefficient way of over a metric ton or few of precious natures resources hauling around mostly just one person at the time and perhaps a grocery bag or two, that creates need for an amount of driving and parking infrastructure that no expanded capacity will ever fully satisfy at the peak hours, while the infrastructure is a mere bleak concrete desert large parts of the time. The costs of inefficiency for societies that results from the private motoring are unacceptable on both economical and human quality of life levels. Talking about failed futurism of the past, it's time to turn the direction indeed.
There are other transportation means in the Paris transit "layer cake", namely the RER, which is the regional express heavy metro system. These lines go deep into the suburbs and use super high capacity trains. Plus, the Transilien network, which is a set of 8 groups of lines of more conventional suburban trains. All these form the 4 main layers of the rail based transit system in Paris : metro network, RER express regional heavy metro network, tram network, and Transilien network. Though, for proper high-speed, high capacity suburb to suburb journeys, there will soon be massive new lines. It's a humongous project called the Grand Paris Express. It currently includes about 200 kilometers of new lines and extensions : 4 entirely new lines, including a gigantic 75km loop line fully deep underground. 3 extensions to 2 existing lines. 84 stations, of which 68 are on the new lines and 16 on the extensions. Currently, more than 100km of these lines' tunnels have been built, with only 80km of tunnels remaining to dig (the rest, about 20km, are on viaducts, in trenches or at grade). Another 5th new line, M19, has been officially proposed recently and would add between 25 and 35km more. It will probably be part of a GPE-2 project to follow. All these lines are in the inner-mid and sometimes mid-outer suburbs, forming mostly arched and tangential lines with huge capacity. The 4 new lines of the initial state of the GPE project are expected to have a daily ridership over 3 million when they'll fully open. All the extensions to existing lines (M11 East, M14 North & South) are opening in June. And M15 South, the first 35km section of the giant loop will open in Q4 2025. Another project, the first phase of the Western extension of RER line E, opens today (Monday 6th of May). It's an 8km extension dug deep underground under the Western side of Paris' core and the skyscraper forest of its Western business district called la Défense. 3 huge new stations open today, including 2 giant underground cavernous cathedrals that are gorgeous. It really is transit-a-palooza in Paris these days.... And I didn't even mentioned the many many tram line extensions that are being built or planned, like the T1 extensions you mentioned. And also the first multi-station urban gondola line that's due to open next year called Cable C1. Plus, a set of proper trambus - busway BRT lines using 24m long electric double bendy busses from Van Hool, with Alstom ground recharge systems and a great slick futuristic look. Another good example of replacing car infrastructure is the "Maréchaux boulevards", which are circular boulevards running around the core city just slightly inner from the Périphérique inner ring road. They used to have massive and noisy traffic. Then these boulevards were mostly remodeled to host the T3a & T3b circular tram lnes. These 2 lines have crazy high ridership for a tram, about twice the entire daily ridership of LA Metro or Chicago's L... Great video!
Holy cow, nice comment, I live in Paris and for one, I'm quite excited for these projects, just something to make your day easier and keep you excited and engaged in the city life
@user-uo7fw5bo1o Yup! Paris transit system is always extremely busy though. RER line A frequently moves 1.5 million passengers per day, it's the busiest line in Europe, followed by line B. (The RER is the regional express heavy metro network). M14, which opened in 1998 as a fully automated driverless metro, is being extended from Orly airport in the South (Paris secondary international airport) to Saint-Denis Pleyel in the North. The 16km (10 miles) extension is expected to open later this month and the ridership forecast for this line after the extension opens is about a million and a half daily (it operates at 80-85 seconds frequency on each track during rush hours. The noria of trains is mesmerizing to watch). The Paris tramway network has grown massively in the last decade and a half, starting line T1 in the early 90's to now 14 lines, with lines T9, T10, T12, and T13 opening recently (T10 and T12 in 2023). The Grand Paris Express massive metro expansion itself is expected to carry over 3 million additional riders per day once completed. T3a and T3b are essentially one circular line operated in two halves. The frequency is quite high for a street running tram. T3a, which is the Southern half, is the most overcrowded one. That's why the Southern section of M15, which is the gigantic metro loop line around Paris core currently being built, is set to open first in 2025, and then followed by the 2 other sections later : M15 East and M15 West. (There's no M15 North per se, it is included in the East and West sections). So that M15 South section can relieve T3a a bit. T3b was recently extended by 7 stations in the Northwest. The circle isn't complete yet, there's still about 15% of the loop missing in the West, and the recent extension opening seems to have revived plans and demand to complete the circle. They've added a dozen new trams to the fleet for the 3.5km extension. Those two really have metro-like ridership.
@@EdwardM-t8p if they were made into metro lines they would only beat line 10 in ridership (and currently 11 but that will probably change once it's extended next month)
@@UnePintade The T3-a & b trams only beat one or two metro subway lines in ridership? Just how many people travel on the other subways? The crush must be as bad as in Japan 😨
Paris regional transports are not only tramways, but also local trains (transilien and RER), regional trains (TER) and buses (A lot of them). If you put them on a map, it will show a very different picture. But you're right on one very important point, Paris is moving away from cars and it's a good thing. I live 65 kms from the paris city center and I never use my car to go to Paris. I always use public transport.
Parisian transit nerd here. 10/10, no notes. Here's a few ideas for further Paris transit/highway videos viewers might like: - A10 diversion for LGV Atlantique - never built "voie de desserte orientale" in the eastern inner suburbs - no relation to transit and IMHO should have never been built, but A86 Duplex is plain cool engineering
The A86 duplex tunnel is a nonsensical idea. Unfit for freight transport because of its low ceiling, it is intrinsically designed for commuter traffic. It should have been a metro or railway line instead.
Pasadena’s residents were plenty wealthy enough to have the time and resources to be able to fight back against something they didn’t like. Thousands of other places weren’t as lucky
Indeed, including the places south of Pasadena where the people covered the main N-S road with 'build I-710' banners, as they were fed up with the traffic passing through their cities on stroads that could be turned into something better, instead of under it on a new freeway, but didn't have the wealth and resource to fight back against their rich neighbours blocking the project!
Should have shown RER and SNCF local lines, not just metro and tram lines. Unless they connect with RER or SNCF some of the tram lines appear to be isolated in the suburbs.
@@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel SNCF is French National Railways and RER is the regional express rail system. Both are different from the metro and run extensively in the Paris region.
like here in luxembourg, it had a big tramway net but it got all removed but then years later the city had a car problem, so they started to build a new tramway from the Luxexpo to the Roud Bréck at first, later they extened it further and further they also made streets smaller or one way only so the tram can fit and since public transport is free, many people use it me included
Yes. I enjoy all the hobos, illegals and crowds so much. Nothing in common with Singapore and Tokyo as they have order and sanitation. Paris is a sh of urine.
I love urbanist YT, really glad I found your channel. This video is so well explained and your graphics are beautiful, really liked you using slides over each other to represent different parts of Paris and different public transport
American living in Paris for several years now, I continue to be impressed with the transport infrastructure here. The grand Paris express is a big topic on this part of TH-cam at the moment, and for good reason, but I'd enjoy seeing your take on it! Or to be a little different, maybe the actual stations themselves in Paris? La Défense, Gare de Lyon, Auber, Chatalet...especially in the RER sections, I find all of these stations more impressive than Union station in Chicago or DC, which are among the best of what the US has to offer. Great quality video & narration, excited to see your channel grow!
Very well documented and accurate, good job ! You forgot RER lines, which are by far the main network used by commuters. 308 millions passengers/year for RER A only !
I live in rural nc, I think an under-estiamted effect of the lack of rail, and subways in the USA is the individual mentality, I do my errands on my time, using my car, It would be interesting if NC did get more rail in it rural outskirts but this is unlikely due to the cost, and sprawl.
As someone not living in the US but in Germany I do my errands on my time, using my feet because everything is close enough together to do that (and honestly most likely faster than if I had to find a parking spot at each end of a 500m trip) since there is no need to build everything at car scale.
I'm hopeful that with the higher ridership post COVID that the Amtrak line between Raleigh and Charlotte has been getting will push policy makers into at least providing more funding for it. Hopefully this spurs enough attention to push for more service extensions to other parts of the state. More options is nice..
But NC IS getting more rail to rural communities. The corridor ID plan is studying more routes in NC than almost any other state. West towards Asheville, East towards Wilmington, and a spur to Fayetteville are 100% possible due to the state continuously breaking Amtrak record after record year after year. The appetite is there
@@Taladar2003I live in Munich, Germany, and it's fascinating to watch how density increases automatically over time when good public transport is provided. There are numerous places where new urban centers grew organically around transport hubs (where buses, trams, subways and/or suburban trains connect). There are even successful new malls (while the car-centric ones are dying), because places where thousands, or even tens of thousands of people come by every day on the way home from work are simply perfect for business, much better than places where people have to actively decide to drive to. This could also perfectly work in the US, but zoning laws prevent it.
One worthwhile example to compare is Auckland, New Zealand. Population 1.4m and growing. Traditionally Auckland had a very busy tram network covering most of the city. Replaced by buses in 1950s, it might have presented some speed and flexibility benefits at the time but on the busiest corridors buses were never going to have enough capacity to deal with the demand. Auckland has had a pretty disfunctional railway forever, and should have built a tunnel they are finally building now (City Rail Link) which will at last allow the train network to service the core of the city and improve speeds and frequencies massively. But the busiest bus corridors are full and need more capacity, Auckland's freeway network is can't be expanded without enormous cost and disruption, and the entire surface transport system is struggling to meet demand. Simple conversion of strategic parts of the freeway to support a light rail network to serve the highest demand centres would expand capacity of these corridors massively, and avoid expensive freeway tunnels etc. Unfortunately the Government backed down from the project after trying to change the scope to become more of an underground metro line which was largely unecessary and would have lead to worse outcomes for 3-4 times the price. But the issues haven't gone away!
Coming from Europe, I lived in Auckland for 3 years in 2006-10. In my experience, while New Zealand is a beautiful and pleasant country in most respects, urban planning and architecture are not among the fortes of the nation. It seems that in the post-war era, Auckland has been developed like a US city, with an emphasis on accommodating the motor vehicle. A network of motorways is the backbone of transport in the Auckland urban area, merging near city centre into an impressively intricate exchange the locals call Spaghetti Junction. There is a transit system, which relies (or relied) on hinky, diesel-powered commuter trains and a bus network. Never before moving there had I even heard of a non-electrified local trains. Admittedly, by the time I left, they'd decided on electrifying the commuter train system. The city earlier had an extensive tram network, but like many other places in the post-war years, shortsightedly tore it down, which is such a pity. There were also some little irritations concerning things I'd earlier taken for granted in transit systems. For instance, sometimes commuter trains were running a bit ahead of schedule, so when walking to my local station, I'd at times see a train scheduled to stop there in a couple of minutes already leaving. The system used two fare zones, but they were not shown on the transit maps. I lived close to Auckland city centre, and often used transit, but even I found it a practical necessity to buy a car.
I live at the very end of what was the A186 road. It closed in 2019 and has been undergoing construction for 5 years… I moved there from Porte de la Chapelle which became the terminus for a time of Tram 3b (demolishing the quasi highway of the Boulevards des Maréchaux which existed just inside the périphérique but have now been replaced by a tram / roadway design very similar to the one in this video). The arrival of the Tram completely transformed the neighborhood (which many might know because it became home to the Adidas Center from the Olympics). My only complaint about the A186 project is that it has now been five years and we still don’t have a road or a tram. The road is supposed to open by the end of this year but the tram is still years away. And that is only the first third of the project. Phase 2 has not yet even begun and phase 3 doesn’t even have funding yet. I’m all for these kinds of transformative projects. But this, combined with another project that has transformed the only other major local road connecting my neighborhood to the city by local roads into a bike- and bus- priority road have been very frustrating. And an extension to the Metro Line 1 that would have created a direct mass transit link was first delayed due to Olympics related construction and then indefinitely postponed due to objections from far richer residents in the town next door who objected. The point being that, while I am all for this kind of development, the truth is that these places developed with easy car movement in mind. And while it makes sense to rip the bandaid off and move in a better direction, the tolerance wears thin when there is not a real alternative put in place within a reasonable amount of time.
This is a really good video, and a really great channel by extension. I really enjoy the writing, the narration and the editing. Well done, you earned a new sub!
Bobigny is where I live, and now I know the history of T1, the tramway I take every day. now everytime I take the tram, I remember this video, and how everything was made...
Excellent vid! The visuals were awesome and really helped convey the point. Felt like the conclusion could have been a little more emphasized, as is the video feels like it ends a little abruptly. Subscribed and looking forward to future videos!
I live in Melbourne Australia, and we have the biggest tram network in the world. I love trams. They really make Melbourne. Thank God unlike Sydney, we weren't stupid in the 1960s and got rid of them. I highly recommend interment Ing a tramway network.
Thank you for the info, good to know! Hopefully, one day people replace a complete highway with mass transit, not just a stub. That would be an exciting day!
As a French person, I can tell you that this video is very cool and very interesting. Congratulations ! 👏 Indeed, the extension of the T1 is progressing rapidly. It will be opened in 2 phases: first from Noisy-le-Sec to Rue de Rosny, and then from Rue de Rosny to Val de Fontenay. As for the dates, I don't know because it changes every 6 months 🤣. I can also tell you that many people make the mistake, as you mentioned, of only considering Paris when analyzing our capital, which is a mistake. When analyzing Paris, it is important to consider it on a regional scale (Île-de-France region) because Paris, unlike other capitals like Berlin, has not expanded since the enlargements under Napoleon III, which means that neighboring cities have become very important (for example, the economic district of La Défense is not in Paris... And this is the case for many other things). One of the few things I can correct in your video is that we also have other means of transportation for the suburbs, such as the Transilien, which is part of the national suburban network, or the RER which serves the suburbs while passing through Paris. So, the suburbs still have significant transport options. The biggest flaw in our network is that it operates in a "star" pattern, everything is centralized around Paris, so traveling from one suburb to another without passing through Paris is challenging, if not impossible (hence the idea of the Grand Paris Express). The best way to visualize all the Parisian lines is to switch to the transportation mode on Google Maps and see all the lines, which gives an overview of all the networks combined. However, significant improvements are possible on the suburban network (even though it's currently on the right track). As for the dependence on cars, it is important to note that it concerns more the departments known as the "Grande Couronne" (77, 78, 91, 95) which are more dependent on cars. The departments of the inner suburbs (92, 93, 94) are much less dependent due to the presence of transport networks. Although the overall importance of cars remains much lower than in the United States, since the first oil shock, numerous transport development policies have been implemented, so you really have to go far into the outer suburbs to find an area with no transportation options.
Thank you! Yes, the suburbs have an extensive transportation network (the RER, Transilien, bus networks, along with the trams). Still, the RER + Transilien mostly function, as you mention, as a means to transport people into the core, less so as cross-suburban transport. I debated adding information about the RER + the Grand Paris Express, but I decided against it just to keep the video streamlined. Overall (even with the issues many people complain about, which are valid) I think the Paris region's transit systems are world-class. Many cities across North America have a lot to learn from Paris and that's regardless of the fact that Paris is a global capital and economic powerhouse.
Very good video, but to be more precise, when you show the suburbs of Paris, you only showed the cities which are part of the intercommunality, excluding the urban area of the suburbs of Paris which is much larger. All you have to do is compare your blue circle with a satellite view. =D
This video massively overlooks the regional trains (RER and TER) that many times more people than the métro or tram. 2.7 million people take the RER every day (the RER connect suburbs to the city centre and among themselves in a star pattern)
Aw, my house was just a few hundred meters off from being seen at 1:06 x) But I wouldn't be that impacted by the T1 extension anyways. Instead we're getting the metro line 11 extension in a few months, with a station built a few steps away from my building 😁
In contrast, it's very depressing to see the government of Berlin cutting fresh wounds into the urban fabric to complete their inner beltway, while holding off on opening finished bike lanes.
General enquiry re: cycle path design. Where pedestrian pavements cross roadways at intersections, many urbanists suggest the pavement level is retained, forming a 'speed bump' across the road and this seems sensible. In the 'outro' a scene shows a pedestrian crossing across a cyclepath, with a notice that pedestrians should be given priority. My question is, at such locations and at intersections where cycle lanes are crossed by pavements, should the same design considerations apply ... even if the 'bumps' are lower than for higher speed motorised traffic?
Someone already said it but it is difficult to talk about the traways of the Paris area without talking about the RER-Transilien network. This are mainly built along a periphery to center axis unlike most of the train, but they are doing what your saying the metro isnt doing very well! connecting the inner and outer suburbs to Paris and its center, not the traways.
People, people! Read the title of his video! He's not laying out all of Paris transit, he's showing that a locality can choose to take up a highway to lay down a tram. Single focus on a specific question that has been getting a lot of attention lately.
Thanks for the last images of where I grew up, le 19ème arrondissement, canal de l'Ourcq, canal Saint-Martin et la Villette ❤ the extreme center of Paris is overrated, artificial and full of tourists
This is bugging me for some reason but I got to say this. The 710 /210 connection was killed by Rich, white, NIMBYs in Pasadena. Similarly, poor neighborhoods with black and Hispanic/ Latino people were told to kick rocks and had their home taken by Eminent Domain to build the 105, the fwy from Speed. The 710 was built primarily for containers from the port, but it just ends at West Valley blvd in Alhambra. This makes traffic take the streets or jump on the interstate 10 or 60 and then the 5 fwy. When part of the 10 fwy got damaged by fire, downtown was clogged by truck traffic. In short, if you’re rich and white, you get no freeways, NIMBYs secretly don’t want “other people” (PoC) to get there easily fearing crime. PoC neighborhoods get bent, you have an interstate in your back yard.
>They're not connected That's because the video didn't show the RER and Transilien map on top, it would have been unreadable, they very much are connected to the network. The eastern part is also less dense and is reached by lines A,B,D,E,K,P, and R as well as bus lines including the busiest in Europe, the TVM
Lol, the destruction of the A186 is a big fail, now all the A3 stuck all day adding 5-15min every day on peoples route. Also, "public transport" is extremely expensive and theses privates company survives only with the money gift by the country (all the country) to them and Parisian... yes 500k parisian got is for free and 11 000 000 peoples living in the suburbs have to pay 90€ monthly for it or stay at home due to the paris bad management
I've read all comments. And, though I do appreciate trams (trains even more so), I'm left questioning why there is a need for an investment in tramlines while a bus could do exactly the same at a fraction of the cost. Just close off the road entirely and make it bus only. Same as current planned design.
Everything in your video is wrong or fake ... So as i live in Paris next to the tram : 1 - It WASN'T a highway, the Boulevards des Marechaux are avenues, with pathwalks, buildings and shops on it, and there even were alredy dedicated bus lines along it for the PC Bus. 2 - You are making a confusion between the boulevard peripherique and the boulevard des marechaux 3 - Parisians voted AGAINST this solution as the tram was supposed to roll on the abandoned petite ceinture railway line that follows the SAME BLOODT PATH 4 - The city decided to go AGAINST the vote and builded the tram on the avenue 5 - Using the abandoned petite Ceinture railway line North-South of paris would have been done in 20 minutes, it now takes two hours with a tram 6 - The tram is extremely slow, always stucked in traffic and there is no bloody AC inside, this is hell. 7 - The number of stations of the tram are smaller than those used by the former PC bus line 8 - The tram is slower than the former PC bus line 9 - The tram is so slow that it moves less people than the former dedicated PC bus line on the same path. 10 - Housing price along the tram path had exploded, and many of my friends had to move because of it, slowly turning those popular ceinture neighbors into rich ghetto 11 - THERE IS EVEN MORE TRAFFIC JAMS IN PARIS THAN BEFORE THAT GREENWASHED CRAP BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY THE HOLY FRUIT OF NEPOTISM AND INCOMPETENCE THAT CURRENTLTY RUNS OUR CITY ... Conclusion : I am not even using the tram anymore, it is shorter for me to wall 10 minutes to get to the subway than using this waste of public Money. This tram is a greenwashing pile of crap that is still not finished after almost 20 years of work, builded against the vote of parisians and doin a worst job at moving people than the bus he replaced. Bonus : the cicle lines installed along the tram are among the most dangerous you can ride with differences of levels, textures and inclinaisons not only at everyu intersection, but every bloody 10 meters ... So please next time, get more info on topics before dropping a video on it.
No, you are wrong, I am sorry. The video talks about the line 1 of the tramway, which did dismantle the A186 in Montreuil. You are talking about the lines 3a and 3b of the tramway, which go around Paris through the boulevard des Maréchaux. Well, almost around all Paris : the loop is stopped between Porte Dauphine and Pont du Garigliano. So, he was right, and my guess is that you did not even watch the video before commenting with so much agressivity. Keep cool mate. I am not going to answer everything you just said. Yet, about few things : the petite ceinture have become a green space, which Paris is extremely lacking of. Plus, the former stations have been converted into shops, restaurants, and associative places. Turning it back into a railway would have been less expensive (yet, quite expensive), but would have destroyed one of the very few parks Paris has. The boulevards des maréchaux was hell when you traveled by car. It is not heaven as of today, I agree, but the boulevards have improved in my opinion, since they also transformed it. The tram is convenient, and it participates in turning Paris into à car centric city, to a People friendly city. The transition is painful and not so well managed, but at least its transitionning. And fast. Also, where did you find the information that the PC line was faster and could move more people ?
@@gregoireduplanil-weill4180 Dude tram in the picture IS the TMS / T3 a/b, i didn"t even click on the video when i saw the clickbait title as for the T1 .. ITS THE SAME CRAP 1 - it wasn't a highway, just a fast dead-end lane to reach the center of the Montreuil city that is empty of any heavy transportation : They destroyed it YEARS ago and the tram works have stopped multiple times. So it"s been YEARS that traffic has exploaded over here, and there won't be any tram before again at least 6 years ... These are poor neioghboors, and they just destroyed the only way to move around they had without any replacement so far .. 2 - In the end, the tram is gonna too small and too slow to replace the lanes he destroyed : They asked for a subway, or at least for the tram to be installed on the current bridged path of the fast lanes to avoid crossing the traffic : they didn't : they destroyed all the bridges, so the tram is gonna be slow as hell, locked into traffic at each crossings ... All these projects have mostly been done without any form of respect of those who lives here / will uses them, and in the end the situation is gonna be worst than before with a shitload of money spent on it.
@@MrElbarto75 @MrElbarto75 "Everything in your video is wrong or fake". You did not even watch the video, and still, you cannot help to comment it, while being extremely agressive. That's dishonest of you. The A186 was a highway, they are called "autoroute" in French. Yes, it was closed and destroyed in 2019. Set to open in 2023, but because of Covid, it was delayed, like every other construction work in France. Line 15 and RER E in the West of Paris were supposed to open way earlier. It takes time. Where did you read that we will have to wait for another 6 years ? Yes, I agree with you on that point, the project could have been handled in à better way. But, once again, things are moving on. The T3 is such a success that even the mayor of the 16th arrondissement is now rethinking his position about the extensions of the T3B in his arrondissement. And yet, ground works were a nightmare. I hope and think that it will be the same here. By the way, I'd still like to know where you saw that the tram was slower and less popular than the bus.
@@MrElbarto75 @MrElbarto75 "Everything in your video is wrong or fake". You did not even watch the video, and still, you cannot help to comment it, while being extremely agressive. That's dishonest of you. The A186 was a highway, they are called "autoroute" in French. It was destroyed in 2019, and was set to open in 2023. Construction works take time, and it was delayed because of Covid, like every other project in France (and the world). I mean look at the RER E, or line 15. It is still quite fast. Also, where did you read that it will take another 6 years of work before the first trams ? Yes, I agree, the project could have been handled in a better way. But at least things are moving forward. The T3 is such a success that nowadays, even the mayor of the 16th arrondissement, a historical oponent to the project, is thinking about the completion of the loop through his arrondissement. Ground work was difficult, similar to the T1, but I hope and think it will work out just fine, and even better than before. By the way, I'd still like to see your references when you said that th T3 is slower and less popular than the PC.
Fun fact: when passenger vehicles are removed from parts of the road network, it is easier for businesses to take deliveries and for emergency vehicles to get through. Also fun fact: most bread in France is baked in the same building in which it is sold.
I don't like your cynical way of talking and unnecessarily serious background music. Better titled Paris Trams T1 Is Extended Partly On Former Short Highway Spur.
In general, as a Dutchman I am impressed by the choices made in Paris to support pedestrians and bicycles over cars. They are doing a great job.
As a Frenchman who lived for 7 years in The Netherlands, I can say this means a lot to us! However the road ahead is still long. As we start to see some decent bike lines downtown of most major cities, many suburbs and country side areas still lack the proper infrastructure. Also, short intercity bike trips which can be very nice in NL (for instance between Delft and The Hague that I have done many times) are not a thing yet here in France.
Problem is, walking & bicycles are for local trips, close to home. The same thing can be said about trams when compared to cars or metro/underground systems. A lot of people come from the suburbs to work in Paris, and need their cars (for shipping, goods delivery or business trips).
@@teran1237 There are physical limitations on how many people can use their car in and out of Paris (or any cities for this matter). Transit will always be more effective in a +10 millions metropolis. For instance, the RER A moves more people daily than the entire ring highway around Paris for a fraction of the space used for the convinience of drivers (not to mention the pollution and the energy wasted). Delivery trucks are also a big part of the trafic in central Paris, howerever we should consider using less of Amazon or Wish, instead of giving them more space at the expense of pedestrian, cyclists and public transport users. Other cities like Brussels have also put in place dedicated hours for delivery so for the rest of the day the street are not cluttered by vans.
As a frenchman what is happening in Paris is great but is happening way too slow. Everything that's been done in the past 5 years should have been done 10 years earlier. We have a behemoth of a bureaucracy that constantly slows down projects like this because of an everlasting administrative procedure. It's exhausting.
Mainly due to Mayor Hidalgo.
Well done. Jane Jacobs wrote about the kind of cities that people really want to live in back in 1962. Nice to see we're heading that direction.
That must be why Paris is BLEEDING inhabitants who find the city unlivable.
Better late than never, guess.
I love how everyone that says this uses cars ( not you though)
That tastes utopical. Am I not feeling good?
Im a car guy and car fan, but i think noone should be able to ignore how cool and incredibly efficient railroads are.
And if rail transport can attract other drivers off the road, it makes driving more pleasant for those who still do it.
I think cars should become what motorcycles are currently: a hobby for the middle class, not a requirement for adult life.
While cars will still be needed in rural areas (although bus lines and bike paths can make many small towns walkable and eliminate the need for cars for everyone), I think we should design cities such that cars are not required for adult life. This means creating complex networks of heavy and light rail systems in cities and making every city and town with more than 10,000 residents be connected to rail networks (like they were before the idiots of the post WWII era demolished our rail infrastructure for short sighted policy gain).
Cars should be for fun, not a requirement for daily life.
@@jonathanbowers8964 This exactly, private passenger motoring should be an exception, not the norm of getting around. Public and shared delivery services for people and goods (excluding uber, door dash and other _platform exploitation_ business models) can easily cover huge lump of the transportation needs that are now fulfilled by the most inefficient way of over a metric ton or few of precious natures resources hauling around mostly just one person at the time and perhaps a grocery bag or two, that creates need for an amount of driving and parking infrastructure that no expanded capacity will ever fully satisfy at the peak hours, while the infrastructure is a mere bleak concrete desert large parts of the time. The costs of inefficiency for societies that results from the private motoring are unacceptable on both economical and human quality of life levels. Talking about failed futurism of the past, it's time to turn the direction indeed.
@@cycleistic1365 Revolutionary.
There are other transportation means in the Paris transit "layer cake", namely the RER, which is the regional express heavy metro system.
These lines go deep into the suburbs and use super high capacity trains.
Plus, the Transilien network, which is a set of 8 groups of lines of more conventional suburban trains.
All these form the 4 main layers of the rail based transit system in Paris : metro network, RER express regional heavy metro network, tram network, and Transilien network.
Though, for proper high-speed, high capacity suburb to suburb journeys, there will soon be massive new lines. It's a humongous project called the Grand Paris Express.
It currently includes about 200 kilometers of new lines and extensions :
4 entirely new lines, including a gigantic 75km loop line fully deep underground.
3 extensions to 2 existing lines.
84 stations, of which 68 are on the new lines and 16 on the extensions.
Currently, more than 100km of these lines' tunnels have been built, with only 80km of tunnels remaining to dig (the rest, about 20km, are on viaducts, in trenches or at grade).
Another 5th new line, M19, has been officially proposed recently and would add between 25 and 35km more. It will probably be part of a GPE-2 project to follow.
All these lines are in the inner-mid and sometimes mid-outer suburbs, forming mostly arched and tangential lines with huge capacity.
The 4 new lines of the initial state of the GPE project are expected to have a daily ridership over 3 million when they'll fully open.
All the extensions to existing lines (M11 East, M14 North & South) are opening in June.
And M15 South, the first 35km section of the giant loop will open in Q4 2025.
Another project, the first phase of the Western extension of RER line E, opens today (Monday 6th of May). It's an 8km extension dug deep underground under the Western side of Paris' core and the skyscraper forest of its Western business district called la Défense.
3 huge new stations open today, including 2 giant underground cavernous cathedrals that are gorgeous.
It really is transit-a-palooza in Paris these days....
And I didn't even mentioned the many many tram line extensions that are being built or planned, like the T1 extensions you mentioned.
And also the first multi-station urban gondola line that's due to open next year called Cable C1.
Plus, a set of proper trambus - busway BRT lines using 24m long electric double bendy busses from Van Hool, with Alstom ground recharge systems and a great slick futuristic look.
Another good example of replacing car infrastructure is the "Maréchaux boulevards", which are circular boulevards running around the core city just slightly inner from the Périphérique inner ring road.
They used to have massive and noisy traffic.
Then these boulevards were mostly remodeled to host the T3a & T3b circular tram lnes.
These 2 lines have crazy high ridership for a tram, about twice the entire daily ridership of LA Metro or Chicago's L...
Great video!
Holy cow, nice comment, I live in Paris and for one, I'm quite excited for these projects, just something to make your day easier and keep you excited and engaged in the city life
That's crazy busy for a 2-line tramway 🚊 in the United States it would be justifiable for a subway for each line!
@user-uo7fw5bo1o Yup! Paris transit system is always extremely busy though. RER line A frequently moves 1.5 million passengers per day, it's the busiest line in Europe, followed by line B.
(The RER is the regional express heavy metro network).
M14, which opened in 1998 as a fully automated driverless metro, is being extended from Orly airport in the South (Paris secondary international airport) to Saint-Denis Pleyel in the North. The 16km (10 miles) extension is expected to open later this month and the ridership forecast for this line after the extension opens is about a million and a half daily (it operates at 80-85 seconds frequency on each track during rush hours. The noria of trains is mesmerizing to watch).
The Paris tramway network has grown massively in the last decade and a half, starting line T1 in the early 90's to now 14 lines, with lines T9, T10, T12, and T13 opening recently (T10 and T12 in 2023).
The Grand Paris Express massive metro expansion itself is expected to carry over 3 million additional riders per day once completed.
T3a and T3b are essentially one circular line operated in two halves. The frequency is quite high for a street running tram.
T3a, which is the Southern half, is the most overcrowded one. That's why the Southern section of M15, which is the gigantic metro loop line around Paris core currently being built, is set to open first in 2025, and then followed by the 2 other sections later : M15 East and M15 West. (There's no M15 North per se, it is included in the East and West sections).
So that M15 South section can relieve T3a a bit.
T3b was recently extended by 7 stations in the Northwest. The circle isn't complete yet, there's still about 15% of the loop missing in the West, and the recent extension opening seems to have revived plans and demand to complete the circle.
They've added a dozen new trams to the fleet for the 3.5km extension.
Those two really have metro-like ridership.
@@EdwardM-t8p if they were made into metro lines they would only beat line 10 in ridership (and currently 11 but that will probably change once it's extended next month)
@@UnePintade The T3-a & b trams only beat one or two metro subway lines in ridership? Just how many people travel on the other subways? The crush must be as bad as in Japan 😨
Paris regional transports are not only tramways, but also local trains (transilien and RER), regional trains (TER) and buses (A lot of them). If you put them on a map, it will show a very different picture.
But you're right on one very important point, Paris is moving away from cars and it's a good thing. I live 65 kms from the paris city center and I never use my car to go to Paris. I always use public transport.
Your editing and content is beyond fantastic! Look forward to your 100K sub special my friend :)
Parisian transit nerd here. 10/10, no notes.
Here's a few ideas for further Paris transit/highway videos viewers might like:
- A10 diversion for LGV Atlantique
- never built "voie de desserte orientale" in the eastern inner suburbs
- no relation to transit and IMHO should have never been built, but A86 Duplex is plain cool engineering
The A86 duplex tunnel is a nonsensical idea. Unfit for freight transport because of its low ceiling, it is intrinsically designed for commuter traffic. It should have been a metro or railway line instead.
"what is A86 Duplex"
"ah, the ÇA ME FAIT PEUUUUUR tunnel"
Pasadena’s residents were plenty wealthy enough to have the time and resources to be able to fight back against something they didn’t like. Thousands of other places weren’t as lucky
Indeed, including the places south of Pasadena where the people covered the main N-S road with 'build I-710' banners, as they were fed up with the traffic passing through their cities on stroads that could be turned into something better, instead of under it on a new freeway, but didn't have the wealth and resource to fight back against their rich neighbours blocking the project!
I like your use of transparent maps instead of CGI graphics. Very creative
Great high quality content. Wish London would follow Paris's lead in expanding our existing tram network in the south!
Should have shown RER and SNCF local lines, not just metro and tram lines. Unless they connect with RER or SNCF some of the tram lines appear to be isolated in the suburbs.
This, the radial trunks carry more people, and are what actually tie the trams together
I have no idea what you just said, but yes, I was confused why tram lines don't connect with each other
Like they're on separate networks
@@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel SNCF is French National Railways and RER is the regional express rail system. Both are different from the metro and run extensively in the Paris region.
@@centredoorplugsthornton4112 and their rails can run trams?
@@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel no. Trams are separate from metro, RER and SNCF.
I love your clear sheets layered to show the map of Paris and its tram / metro lines. A great alternative to computer graphics.
like here in luxembourg, it had a big tramway net but it got all removed but then years later the city had a car problem, so they started to build a new tramway from the Luxexpo to the Roud Bréck at first, later they extened it further and further they also made streets smaller or one way only so the tram can fit and since public transport is free, many people use it me included
Paris has followed Tokyo and Singapore path of people centric development and not a car centric anymore
paris is so dense, you can't use car there anymore
@@user-nwwioxy Amen 🙏🏾
I hate that NYC is just full of useless cars and idiots tryna drive crosstown.
Yes. I enjoy all the hobos, illegals and crowds so much. Nothing in common with Singapore and Tokyo as they have order and sanitation. Paris is a sh of urine.
It took the Tokyo view of ridership, the German view of huge rail lines going through the historical center, and the Dutch view of walkable cities
@@UnePintadeAn Anti-Car Utopia.
I absolutely loved how succinct and effective your video was. The transparents sheets are a really nice touch ! Loved everything really !
I love urbanist YT, really glad I found your channel. This video is so well explained and your graphics are beautiful, really liked you using slides over each other to represent different parts of Paris and different public transport
American living in Paris for several years now, I continue to be impressed with the transport infrastructure here. The grand Paris express is a big topic on this part of TH-cam at the moment, and for good reason, but I'd enjoy seeing your take on it! Or to be a little different, maybe the actual stations themselves in Paris? La Défense, Gare de Lyon, Auber, Chatalet...especially in the RER sections, I find all of these stations more impressive than Union station in Chicago or DC, which are among the best of what the US has to offer. Great quality video & narration, excited to see your channel grow!
Very well documented and accurate, good job ! You forgot RER lines, which are by far the main network used by commuters. 308 millions passengers/year for RER A only !
The density of interesting information you managed to put into such a short video was really impressive, well done.
Fantastic video. Love urbanist/transit content that also covers suburban areas.
Great job, bon travail.
I really love your style of videos! You are making some cool stuff!
Excellent video! I love the visual showcase with layered slides of Paris!
I live in rural nc, I think an under-estiamted effect of the lack of rail, and subways in the USA is the individual mentality, I do my errands on my time, using my car, It would be interesting if NC did get more rail in it rural outskirts but this is unlikely due to the cost, and sprawl.
As someone not living in the US but in Germany I do my errands on my time, using my feet because everything is close enough together to do that (and honestly most likely faster than if I had to find a parking spot at each end of a 500m trip) since there is no need to build everything at car scale.
I'm hopeful that with the higher ridership post COVID that the Amtrak line between Raleigh and Charlotte has been getting will push policy makers into at least providing more funding for it. Hopefully this spurs enough attention to push for more service extensions to other parts of the state. More options is nice..
But NC IS getting more rail to rural communities. The corridor ID plan is studying more routes in NC than almost any other state. West towards Asheville, East towards Wilmington, and a spur to Fayetteville are 100% possible due to the state continuously breaking Amtrak record after record year after year. The appetite is there
@@Taladar2003I live in Munich, Germany, and it's fascinating to watch how density increases automatically over time when good public transport is provided. There are numerous places where new urban centers grew organically around transport hubs (where buses, trams, subways and/or suburban trains connect). There are even successful new malls (while the car-centric ones are dying), because places where thousands, or even tens of thousands of people come by every day on the way home from work are simply perfect for business, much better than places where people have to actively decide to drive to. This could also perfectly work in the US, but zoning laws prevent it.
Incredible video with great production quality! Keep it up!
One worthwhile example to compare is Auckland, New Zealand. Population 1.4m and growing.
Traditionally Auckland had a very busy tram network covering most of the city. Replaced by buses in 1950s, it might have presented some speed and flexibility benefits at the time but on the busiest corridors buses were never going to have enough capacity to deal with the demand. Auckland has had a pretty disfunctional railway forever, and should have built a tunnel they are finally building now (City Rail Link) which will at last allow the train network to service the core of the city and improve speeds and frequencies massively. But the busiest bus corridors are full and need more capacity, Auckland's freeway network is can't be expanded without enormous cost and disruption, and the entire surface transport system is struggling to meet demand. Simple conversion of strategic parts of the freeway to support a light rail network to serve the highest demand centres would expand capacity of these corridors massively, and avoid expensive freeway tunnels etc.
Unfortunately the Government backed down from the project after trying to change the scope to become more of an underground metro line which was largely unecessary and would have lead to worse outcomes for 3-4 times the price. But the issues haven't gone away!
I'm gonna go down a rabbit hole looking into this 😵💫😂
Coming from Europe, I lived in Auckland for 3 years in 2006-10. In my experience, while New Zealand is a beautiful and pleasant country in most respects, urban planning and architecture are not among the fortes of the nation.
It seems that in the post-war era, Auckland has been developed like a US city, with an emphasis on accommodating the motor vehicle. A network of motorways is the backbone of transport in the Auckland urban area, merging near city centre into an impressively intricate exchange the locals call Spaghetti Junction.
There is a transit system, which relies (or relied) on hinky, diesel-powered commuter trains and a bus network. Never before moving there had I even heard of a non-electrified local trains. Admittedly, by the time I left, they'd decided on electrifying the commuter train system. The city earlier had an extensive tram network, but like many other places in the post-war years, shortsightedly tore it down, which is such a pity.
There were also some little irritations concerning things I'd earlier taken for granted in transit systems. For instance, sometimes commuter trains were running a bit ahead of schedule, so when walking to my local station, I'd at times see a train scheduled to stop there in a couple of minutes already leaving. The system used two fare zones, but they were not shown on the transit maps.
I lived close to Auckland city centre, and often used transit, but even I found it a practical necessity to buy a car.
i mean, wasn't it you guys who voted for the nationals? should've vote for greens or labour if you want the project to continue.
@@byunbaekhyun2283 im Australian not Kiwi lol
@@BigBlueMan118 welp, my bad then. my comment was directed to kiwis.
I live at the very end of what was the A186 road. It closed in 2019 and has been undergoing construction for 5 years… I moved there from Porte de la Chapelle which became the terminus for a time of Tram 3b (demolishing the quasi highway of the Boulevards des Maréchaux which existed just inside the périphérique but have now been replaced by a tram / roadway design very similar to the one in this video). The arrival of the Tram completely transformed the neighborhood (which many might know because it became home to the Adidas Center from the Olympics). My only complaint about the A186 project is that it has now been five years and we still don’t have a road or a tram. The road is supposed to open by the end of this year but the tram is still years away. And that is only the first third of the project. Phase 2 has not yet even begun and phase 3 doesn’t even have funding yet. I’m all for these kinds of transformative projects. But this, combined with another project that has transformed the only other major local road connecting my neighborhood to the city by local roads into a bike- and bus- priority road have been very frustrating. And an extension to the Metro Line 1 that would have created a direct mass transit link was first delayed due to Olympics related construction and then indefinitely postponed due to objections from far richer residents in the town next door who objected. The point being that, while I am all for this kind of development, the truth is that these places developed with easy car movement in mind. And while it makes sense to rip the bandaid off and move in a better direction, the tolerance wears thin when there is not a real alternative put in place within a reasonable amount of time.
This is a really good video, and a really great channel by extension. I really enjoy the writing, the narration and the editing. Well done, you earned a new sub!
Really good quality for such a small channel. Subscribed
Great video and the length is perfect!
Very good and stylish. On your maps you don’t include the RER, why?
Bobigny is where I live, and now I know the history of T1, the tramway I take every day. now everytime I take the tram, I remember this video, and how everything was made...
Excellent vid! The visuals were awesome and really helped convey the point. Felt like the conclusion could have been a little more emphasized, as is the video feels like it ends a little abruptly. Subscribed and looking forward to future videos!
wowww, this is a super cool video on a super cool topic! Lovely editing especially!
I really like the calm ease with which you take on this essay. Also, was that paper stop-motion your own?
The tramway shown in your video thumbnail is the T3b which hasn't replaced a highway but a part of several boulevards
loved this video, great work!
Amazing video !!!
Nice little video
I live in Melbourne Australia, and we have the biggest tram network in the world. I love trams. They really make Melbourne. Thank God unlike Sydney, we weren't stupid in the 1960s and got rid of them. I highly recommend interment Ing a tramway network.
LA used to be the biggest until they sold it to people associating with the car/auto industry and just convert it into asphalt
amazing video!
Thank you for the info, good to know! Hopefully, one day people replace a complete highway with mass transit, not just a stub. That would be an exciting day!
Just add one more lane (of railways).
As a French person, I can tell you that this video is very cool and very interesting. Congratulations ! 👏
Indeed, the extension of the T1 is progressing rapidly. It will be opened in 2 phases: first from Noisy-le-Sec to Rue de Rosny, and then from Rue de Rosny to Val de Fontenay. As for the dates, I don't know because it changes every 6 months 🤣.
I can also tell you that many people make the mistake, as you mentioned, of only considering Paris when analyzing our capital, which is a mistake. When analyzing Paris, it is important to consider it on a regional scale (Île-de-France region) because Paris, unlike other capitals like Berlin, has not expanded since the enlargements under Napoleon III, which means that neighboring cities have become very important (for example, the economic district of La Défense is not in Paris... And this is the case for many other things).
One of the few things I can correct in your video is that we also have other means of transportation for the suburbs, such as the Transilien, which is part of the national suburban network, or the RER which serves the suburbs while passing through Paris. So, the suburbs still have significant transport options. The biggest flaw in our network is that it operates in a "star" pattern, everything is centralized around Paris, so traveling from one suburb to another without passing through Paris is challenging, if not impossible (hence the idea of the Grand Paris Express).
The best way to visualize all the Parisian lines is to switch to the transportation mode on Google Maps and see all the lines, which gives an overview of all the networks combined. However, significant improvements are possible on the suburban network (even though it's currently on the right track).
As for the dependence on cars, it is important to note that it concerns more the departments known as the "Grande Couronne" (77, 78, 91, 95) which are more dependent on cars. The departments of the inner suburbs (92, 93, 94) are much less dependent due to the presence of transport networks. Although the overall importance of cars remains much lower than in the United States, since the first oil shock, numerous transport development policies have been implemented, so you really have to go far into the outer suburbs to find an area with no transportation options.
Thank you! Yes, the suburbs have an extensive transportation network (the RER, Transilien, bus networks, along with the trams). Still, the RER + Transilien mostly function, as you mention, as a means to transport people into the core, less so as cross-suburban transport. I debated adding information about the RER + the Grand Paris Express, but I decided against it just to keep the video streamlined. Overall (even with the issues many people complain about, which are valid) I think the Paris region's transit systems are world-class. Many cities across North America have a lot to learn from Paris and that's regardless of the fact that Paris is a global capital and economic powerhouse.
Great video!
You gave me more information about where I live than myself
> says "... and in the US"
> shows Toronto
Saying "... in Europe and North America" would be more correctly.
Great video👍
Très bien fait! Par contre, la carte du métro de Paris ne comprend pas le RER, qui fait quand même une différence dans la petite et grande couronne
Merci! oui c'est vrai j’ai pas mis les lignes RER dans les plans, je pense que ça les aurait un peu trop encombrées…
Very good video, but to be more precise, when you show the suburbs of Paris, you only showed the cities which are part of the intercommunality, excluding the urban area of the suburbs of Paris which is much larger. All you have to do is compare your blue circle with a satellite view. =D
It wasn't I-710 from Pasadena to LB but it was back when it was state route 7.
great video
This video massively overlooks the regional trains (RER and TER) that many times more people than the métro or tram.
2.7 million people take the RER every day (the RER connect suburbs to the city centre and among themselves in a star pattern)
cool video, thanks
10/10 for the clip of fans cheering at the highway removal
Great job! More public transport!
insanely well vid
Montreal should watch and learn 😢
Aw, my house was just a few hundred meters off from being seen at 1:06 x)
But I wouldn't be that impacted by the T1 extension anyways. Instead we're getting the metro line 11 extension in a few months, with a station built a few steps away from my building 😁
In contrast, it's very depressing to see the government of Berlin cutting fresh wounds into the urban fabric to complete their inner beltway, while holding off on opening finished bike lanes.
Very informative video. I live in the hyper center of Paris and I don’t own a car
General enquiry re: cycle path design. Where pedestrian pavements cross roadways at intersections, many urbanists suggest the pavement level is retained, forming a 'speed bump' across the road and this seems sensible.
In the 'outro' a scene shows a pedestrian crossing across a cyclepath, with a notice that pedestrians should be given priority.
My question is, at such locations and at intersections where cycle lanes are crossed by pavements, should the same design considerations apply ... even if the 'bumps' are lower than for higher speed motorised traffic?
nice video
Someone already said it but it is difficult to talk about the traways of the Paris area without talking about the RER-Transilien network. This are mainly built along a periphery to center axis unlike most of the train, but they are doing what your saying the metro isnt doing very well! connecting the inner and outer suburbs to Paris and its center, not the traways.
6:02 Pietons weren't prioritized, classic Paris, haha
3:50 "Noisy le Sec all the way to Val de Fontenay"
Subtitles : "vastly Le Cirque all the way to Vodaphone to name"
Yup 100% legit.
Something like this would have been unthinkable 50-60 years ago
People, people! Read the title of his video! He's not laying out all of Paris transit, he's showing that a locality can choose to take up a highway to lay down a tram. Single focus on a specific question that has been getting a lot of attention lately.
When you take a look at Lausanne, you will find this situation twice. Once from the east and the other one from the west.
At 2:48 the line 14 is outdated (it goes to Saint Ouen)
Thats cool, I wish here in Germany politicians would be that brave!
2:50 Not speaking about the RERs make it look like only in wall Paris have public transportation. It's not true.
La Suisse est un rare pays où vous pouvez allez sans voiture, même en montagne !
NANTES MENTIONNÉ !!
Thanks for the last images of where I grew up, le 19ème arrondissement, canal de l'Ourcq, canal Saint-Martin et la Villette ❤ the extreme center of Paris is overrated, artificial and full of tourists
This is bugging me for some reason but I got to say this. The 710 /210 connection was killed by Rich, white, NIMBYs in Pasadena. Similarly, poor neighborhoods with black and Hispanic/ Latino people were told to kick rocks and had their home taken by Eminent Domain to build the 105, the fwy from Speed.
The 710 was built primarily for containers from the port, but it just ends at West Valley blvd in Alhambra. This makes traffic take the streets or jump on the interstate 10 or 60 and then the 5 fwy.
When part of the 10 fwy got damaged by fire, downtown was clogged by truck traffic.
In short, if you’re rich and white, you get no freeways, NIMBYs secretly don’t want “other people” (PoC) to get there easily fearing crime.
PoC neighborhoods get bent, you have an interstate in your back yard.
Your white savior complex is not showing quite hard enough, try amping it up even more.
Bois de Boulogne and Bois de Vincennes are in the city limits not in the inner suburbs.
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 THE LION WAS HERE 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 No. 352
Still those trams are not connected and they don't over much options in the eastern parts of Paris Metro area.
>They're not connected
That's because the video didn't show the RER and Transilien map on top, it would have been unreadable, they very much are connected to the network. The eastern part is also less dense and is reached by lines A,B,D,E,K,P, and R as well as bus lines including the busiest in Europe, the TVM
@@UnePintadethanks i learned something new
Meanwhile in Kolkata,govt is planning to rip off the tramways and make more flyovers 🙂🙂🙂
no trébuchet?
Go Paris!
and meanwhile Berlin, Germany is cutting down trees and remodelling parks to build a new highway in 2024...
Highways is such an American word...
The more common wording around the world is "motorway", in many languages.
Well done Paris, Auckland n z city take note
Oh man. Please make a Patreon
cool
Trust me you really don't wan't to take tramway T1 on a daily basis.
Answer: Because the city planners had more than one braincell
T3a and T3b almost circle paris. It is not in your map
WELL DOME PARIS
Lol, the destruction of the A186 is a big fail, now all the A3 stuck all day adding 5-15min every day on peoples route. Also, "public transport" is extremely expensive and theses privates company survives only with the money gift by the country (all the country) to them and Parisian... yes 500k parisian got is for free and 11 000 000 peoples living in the suburbs have to pay 90€ monthly for it or stay at home due to the paris bad management
what ?
@@UnePintade the first exemple is just fake bc it's a big fail
I've read all comments. And, though I do appreciate trams (trains even more so), I'm left questioning why there is a need for an investment in tramlines while a bus could do exactly the same at a fraction of the cost. Just close off the road entirely and make it bus only. Same as current planned design.
didn't talk much about the tram actually, very shoet, we didn't learn anything about the tram
you can find videos about T1, it's not a new tram
America could never. 😂
Everything in your video is wrong or fake ... So as i live in Paris next to the tram :
1 - It WASN'T a highway, the Boulevards des Marechaux are avenues, with pathwalks, buildings and shops on it, and there even were alredy dedicated bus lines along it for the PC Bus.
2 - You are making a confusion between the boulevard peripherique and the boulevard des marechaux
3 - Parisians voted AGAINST this solution as the tram was supposed to roll on the abandoned petite ceinture railway line that follows the SAME BLOODT PATH
4 - The city decided to go AGAINST the vote and builded the tram on the avenue
5 - Using the abandoned petite Ceinture railway line North-South of paris would have been done in 20 minutes, it now takes two hours with a tram
6 - The tram is extremely slow, always stucked in traffic and there is no bloody AC inside, this is hell.
7 - The number of stations of the tram are smaller than those used by the former PC bus line
8 - The tram is slower than the former PC bus line
9 - The tram is so slow that it moves less people than the former dedicated PC bus line on the same path.
10 - Housing price along the tram path had exploded, and many of my friends had to move because of it, slowly turning those popular ceinture neighbors into rich ghetto
11 - THERE IS EVEN MORE TRAFFIC JAMS IN PARIS THAN BEFORE THAT GREENWASHED CRAP BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY THE HOLY FRUIT OF NEPOTISM AND INCOMPETENCE THAT CURRENTLTY RUNS OUR CITY ...
Conclusion :
I am not even using the tram anymore, it is shorter for me to wall 10 minutes to get to the subway than using this waste of public Money.
This tram is a greenwashing pile of crap that is still not finished after almost 20 years of work, builded against the vote of parisians and doin a worst job at moving people than the bus he replaced.
Bonus : the cicle lines installed along the tram are among the most dangerous you can ride with differences of levels, textures and inclinaisons not only at everyu intersection, but every bloody 10 meters ... So please next time, get more info on topics before dropping a video on it.
No, you are wrong, I am sorry. The video talks about the line 1 of the tramway, which did dismantle the A186 in Montreuil.
You are talking about the lines 3a and 3b of the tramway, which go around Paris through the boulevard des Maréchaux. Well, almost around all Paris : the loop is stopped between Porte Dauphine and Pont du Garigliano.
So, he was right, and my guess is that you did not even watch the video before commenting with so much agressivity. Keep cool mate.
I am not going to answer everything you just said. Yet, about few things : the petite ceinture have become a green space, which Paris is extremely lacking of. Plus, the former stations have been converted into shops, restaurants, and associative places. Turning it back into a railway would have been less expensive (yet, quite expensive), but would have destroyed one of the very few parks Paris has.
The boulevards des maréchaux was hell when you traveled by car. It is not heaven as of today, I agree, but the boulevards have improved in my opinion, since they also transformed it.
The tram is convenient, and it participates in turning Paris into à car centric city, to a People friendly city. The transition is painful and not so well managed, but at least its transitionning. And fast.
Also, where did you find the information that the PC line was faster and could move more people ?
@@gregoireduplanil-weill4180 Dude tram in the picture IS the TMS / T3 a/b, i didn"t even click on the video when i saw the clickbait title as for the T1 .. ITS THE SAME CRAP
1 - it wasn't a highway, just a fast dead-end lane to reach the center of the Montreuil city that is empty of any heavy transportation : They destroyed it YEARS ago and the tram works have stopped multiple times. So it"s been YEARS that traffic has exploaded over here, and there won't be any tram before again at least 6 years ... These are poor neioghboors, and they just destroyed the only way to move around they had without any replacement so far ..
2 - In the end, the tram is gonna too small and too slow to replace the lanes he destroyed : They asked for a subway, or at least for the tram to be installed on the current bridged path of the fast lanes to avoid crossing the traffic : they didn't : they destroyed all the bridges, so the tram is gonna be slow as hell, locked into traffic at each crossings ...
All these projects have mostly been done without any form of respect of those who lives here / will uses them, and in the end the situation is gonna be worst than before with a shitload of money spent on it.
@@MrElbarto75 @MrElbarto75 "Everything in your video is wrong or fake". You did not even watch the video, and still, you cannot help to comment it, while being extremely agressive. That's dishonest of you.
The A186 was a highway, they are called "autoroute" in French. Yes, it was closed and destroyed in 2019. Set to open in 2023, but because of Covid, it was delayed, like every other construction work in France. Line 15 and RER E in the West of Paris were supposed to open way earlier. It takes time. Where did you read that we will have to wait for another 6 years ?
Yes, I agree with you on that point, the project could have been handled in à better way. But, once again, things are moving on. The T3 is such a success that even the mayor of the 16th arrondissement is now rethinking his position about the extensions of the T3B in his arrondissement. And yet, ground works were a nightmare. I hope and think that it will be the same here.
By the way, I'd still like to know where you saw that the tram was slower and less popular than the bus.
@@MrElbarto75 @MrElbarto75 "Everything in your video is wrong or fake". You did not even watch the video, and still, you cannot help to comment it, while being extremely agressive. That's dishonest of you.
The A186 was a highway, they are called "autoroute" in French. It was destroyed in 2019, and was set to open in 2023. Construction works take time, and it was delayed because of Covid, like every other project in France (and the world). I mean look at the RER E, or line 15. It is still quite fast. Also, where did you read that it will take another 6 years of work before the first trams ?
Yes, I agree, the project could have been handled in a better way. But at least things are moving forward. The T3 is such a success that nowadays, even the mayor of the 16th arrondissement, a historical oponent to the project, is thinking about the completion of the loop through his arrondissement. Ground work was difficult, similar to the T1, but I hope and think it will work out just fine, and even better than before.
By the way, I'd still like to see your references when you said that th T3 is slower and less popular than the PC.
Barto faut regarder le vidéo avant de faire une dissertation dans le vent
Fun fact: railroads never are used to deliver a loaf of bread to your local grocery store, or your grandma to the hospital
Fun fact: when passenger vehicles are removed from parts of the road network, it is easier for businesses to take deliveries and for emergency vehicles to get through.
Also fun fact: most bread in France is baked in the same building in which it is sold.
It wouldn't be a real urban planning channel without throwing some racism accusations in there, huh? Just stop it.
it's the fact, highways have racist roots.
Most highways were built in poor communities, which are mostly black. Use your brain maybe?
what ? are you saying 1950s america wasn't racist ???
@@UnePintade It’s completely irrelevant. No one mentions the racism against whites either , which is way more common nowadays.
Did you slowed down your voice 1.25x to extend your video? XD
Next time try to write a proper content...
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I don't like your cynical way of talking and unnecessarily serious background music.
Better titled Paris Trams T1 Is Extended Partly On Former Short Highway Spur.
This is a cult
I agree. Car owners are very cultish.