This video was pre-recorded before the banning of Terraforming. As you can see in my decklist, terraforming shows as “Limited”. The rules also states before the series began that if your deck contains a Field Spell, Terraforming and Metaverse is allowed. So we’re going to be sticking with that. If you want to further check out the rules please visit tsx1.com 🙏🏻 Regardless, we hope you guys enjoyed todays episode 😈
The funny part about this video, Sam isnt even being toxic. Seereax is always being toxic in all these videos. If Seereax would learn to STFU we wouldnt have as much drama lmao.
@@benjamindavis4683real life not enough? You have to be an idiot online as well? I know they say ignorance is bliss but don’t you think you’re taking it too far? Let’s take this to some extremes for a moment… let’s say I kidnap you and force you to play a game of Russian roulette if you want to escape with your life but the gun I gave you has a single bullet while mine has 5, hell I’m clearly cheating, let’s just go ahead and say you have a blank, you attempt to tell me that I’m clearly cheating and tell me this is unfair, but I just laugh at you, call you a little crybaby, and mock you… that’s what you just did, minus the extreme situation I conjured up as an example… sounds rather idiotic no? Or was this not toxic enough?
Not gonna lie, I was expecting the end of the video to be both of them going to the rules and seeing who was right. Next season, Rhym or Doto bout to pull up as a judge
@@himothy9871 it's a card that can be summoned by tributing monsters, traps or spells. It's immune to the type of cards used in it's tribute summon. It's usually played in stun decks. If you tribute a spell and a monster for example it's immune to spells and monster effects. Then you can Royal command making traps not work. Then master peace can't be removed from the field. This is just one example of its broken utility. There are so many things you can do with it's ability to remove it's owners own stun tools and be practically invincible. It's probably a top 5 card ever.
These two dueling reminds me of when we all played Yugioh for the first time and we would argue with each other about how the rules work. "You cant use Blue Eyes thats not fair" *normal summons Blue Eyes without tributing* These videos give me a great nostalgic feeling.
A memory I have similar to this is my friends doing the same thing, but they also had a Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon and would send them to the graveyard and treat it as a tribute summon without using Poly lol
Seereax brings up a good point, some cards are only banned because they are broken outside of their own archetype. You should come up with your own ban list for these duels.
But still these rules are as fair as they can be, i mean using true king of all calamities in a true draco deck is still extremly broken and it wouldnt be remotely fair. Plus i dont think the deck wouldve been in the same tear if that card was unbanned.
Generally speaking low tier, Boss monsters normally are banned because they’re broken and other decks so seereax has a very good point. Let’s be honest, the card did the same thing as foolish burial. They should look at revising the rules and make it so that any deck lower than D tier is allowed to use one boss monster from the banlist , if it’s in archetype.
Also, I feel like Sam was so frustrated, that the rule was broken that he wasn’t really listening to what seereax has had to say, because he asked does have a very good point.
Personally If I was to Errata Lavalval Chain, to legit ONLY work with-in its Archtype, like make the effect only work if you have " So many " Laval " monsters in your GY, and since Laval's are a GY based archtype, it would be balanced, as SeeReax bring up as a fair point; " The card isn't broken when its used in its own archtype; it was only broken/banned cause its effect could be used WITH ANY DECK at all "
@@Polar87honestly the card could even target pyros or even fire monsters specifically and it would at the very least get bumped up to 1. I still strong, but not as splashable outside of specific decks. Or you could bump the summon requirements and make it need laval monsters.
@@Srs-zb5qx because the card is banned is Master Duel and the rules they agreed explicitly say (as shown at the beginning) if a monster is banned in MD it cannot be used regardless of whether it belongs to the archetype. It was an honest mistake on SeeReax’s part because he was playing unlimited and is unfamiliar with the card, but it’s still a rule break. Sam was right.
But effect wasnt game changing, so he just could let it go for first game, and than "nerf" that card if Seereax honestly made mistake by piking. Dont need blindlly citate rules, need to look at situation
@@ritmantas rules are rules tho, why have rules if u dont follow them. Besides seereax wasnt like "oh my mistake" he Doubled down. I get u can be like ok just dont use it next game or just dont use the effect, but he was arguing for his life without admiting to his mistake which is just not ok. And just cause it wasnt game changing does not change a thing. Just cause your mistake luckily didnt change the result, it was still a mistake u should be Held accountable for. Thats how it is in any tournament. And again if he would man up to his mistake u can be more understanding, but he didnt. Honestly im mostly just watching for seereax, but that was just poor sportsmanship and pathetic behavior. Instead of apologizing he just made excuses.
Sam definitely had a point considering seereax literally broke the rules but I agree with him that Chain wouldn’t be banned if it could only send laval monsters
@@Ninpo.lightskin.mode.activated I still say it should not have been put in deck but ya it’s banned for use out of arctype not in arctype (if it was arctype locked it be legal at 3) but Sam was being kinda of a dick by insinuating it’s Seereaxs fault for not knowing ever banned card in existence with how he kept saying “and who’s fault is that” in response to serreaxs very valid response of “you put a banned card graceful charity on the staples wheel so I had to put my deck in unlimited how was I supposed to know” Sam should have just said. I’m sorry that’s fair please remove it next match this game it’s fine. And it have ended there
@@reddragon9064 this is what I thought too, I felt like both of them could’ve handled it better and moved on, but it was funny as hell so i’m all for it LOL
They already have the rules laid out and written up. For once Sam actually was in the right here but it's up to them how they want to deal with it. Deion said himself that he didn't read the rules so it is on him.
@@TheArtDump if rules are laid out and written up, how come every yugioh tournament there’s admins? This just goes to show that no matter who made the rules, there’s always loop holes. Yugioh is sometimes very complex because when you’re being specific, you ignore other cards descriptions, when you make a broad rule, it ignores specific plays. That’s why there are admins to give a 3rd point of view on what’s fair.
@@dvgamingpro9883 Or at the very least to review the decks so Sam can't keep yelling "You Can't Play That!" for cards that are usually perfectly valid. Their bickering is fun, but that line has gotten very old 😅
I feel this series needs an impartial, 3rd party judge to check the rules both duelists decks to avoid both duelists from cheating - unintentionally or otherwise.
This duel felt like the duel between Marik and Bakura 😂. They were working together and then end up turning on each other one episode and this episode describes that.
My favorite thing is Sam saying this is Seereax fault for not knowing that his card is banned but he somehow spun on a completely different tier last duel. Love the series and reminds me of me and my friends playing.
Yeah, I get your point, but Sam spun the wheel for a tier below Seereax's and he still won with technically a worse deck. The toxicity between these two is insane, though 😅 This episode was crazy. They're incredibly competitive, but yeah, I could also see myself arguing to that extent when it comes to this stupid card game that we all love for some stupid reason 😂
@@brackkusamaz4015 high E is technically a lower tier for whatever reason, that being said, I feel like the two were mislabeled then since high E just in total has better decks than low E when you compare the two 🤔
Even if Sam is right on this occasion, he really needs to stop being "boy who cried wolf" when it comes to cheating, cause even a judge will just start ignoring you if you make too many false claims.
@@NarutoOnlineGermany bro reax literally said stop whining about a crad who literally does the same exact thing his other card does whats wrong in that lmao
Yall aren't FAKE when you duel, you both speak your mind and don't just say what's convenient for the camera. That's what I'm here for! It shows that yall aren't just friends, you're BROTHERS!
@@quackduckquack "Those who point the finger at the dishonesty of others, but do not hesitate to cheat or steal, are simply revealing their own corrupt nature."
Regardless of whether the card is banned or not, Sam's right that it's in the rules and Seereax shouldn't have put it in his deck and it would have been too annoying to ban/unban cards based on the reason they were banned, but Seereax is right that Lavalval Chain isn't banned for being OP in archetype
Yeah, it was 100% cheating just because it’s against the predetermined rules. Did it win him the duel? Probably not. Was his argument for why it’s banned correct? Yes. But he shouldn’t have used the card.
@@theguy8705 that and his hand that opening game was just really good. Pretty sure he could have avoided the banish another way. I respect Sam for the way he ended it just to clear the air
I think they should be allowed to play the banned cards of their archetypes. Regardless of what they choose, Seereax absolutely deserves to use it after what happened last duel.
Personally I’d say the opposite. I feel like playing the banned cards, while in archetype may not be banned, would change the tier level of deck. Like lavalval chain makes this deck better then E for sure, where it’d meant to be
@@sammckeon738 Nah, deck list tiers are calculated at a measure of all cards being considered "Playable" within their archetype. The rank is given before bans and only adjusted/readjusted during times that support comes out or errata changes. Tearlaments are still considered S+ tier because the nerfs don't affect their placement until actual archetype changes occur despite now being substantially easier to play against due to the limited/banned cards in their archetype.
Realistically, in-archetype, that card doesnt really do anything. Its not that big a deal. I feel like that rule doesn't really take into account the individual cards and I know there's a lot of cards on the forbidden/limited list so you can't check them all but this card hardly does anything in this
That's what reax argument was. The card is only special because of the text, if not that, it wouldn't be band. In a sense he is using the card the way it was meant to be used had it said laval on the text. It's very simple to see.
Yeah it's a good point. But if you have written rules and both agreed to em, it really doesn't matter. Banned is banned. With that kind of mindset it could get really janky with a lot of technicalities. I fully believe Sam is 100% in the right here (for once lmao)
@Ventovader123 true but if 99% of the time Sam is spewing that banned or cheater you can't really take him seriously even if it is playful banter. Plus from what I've seen from other people's comments apparently Sam played a different tier wheel deck yet it still counts as a win😅
The card may do nothing but still it was against the rules and should have been excluded if known to be banned. There was still quite a number of other extra deck cards. Still not that big of a deal.
@@FeRoClan0you’re implying seereax reads every single banlist for this game when he strictly plays with banned cards on his and other people’s channels… you’re not using critical thinking bud
@@FeRoClan0If the rule are so important then why hasn't Sam removed his win from the game before when he used an entire illegal deck based on his own rules.
The moment Seereax spinned Laval Deck, I know that Lavalval Chain will be there. And Sam will react like that. HAHA Edit: Please continue this series. This is 🔥
Lavalval chain is also only decent in a pure Lavalval deck. It hit the banlist because so many other archetypes could use it better and all of those other decks saw consistency that base Lavalvals wished they could have running it. When an archetypes banned card isn't even the best in its own archetype, the archetype itself isn't good.
@@sims8717 yeah it's a fair game but still it's part of the rules regardless if it's just one card.. if the rules says no, you cant just say "oh it's just one card and it doesnt do much for this deck".. u gotta stick to the rules eventhough that card doesnt do much in this game.. i think that's what Sam is trying to highlight tho.. For the High E roll, Sam already admit he is wrong so why bother if someone already admit his mistake ? and Seereax also dont mind gv Sam the win for that episode eventhough he play a High E deck..
@@TheRakuSama bro what kind of paint you sniffing. Sam also said once that SeeReax can run multiples of exodia. Isnt that just as bad as running that ONE banned laval? So running exodia multiples is ok but this is not? You crazy
@@TheRakuSama I don't know which part of the video he admits he's wrong about the High E roll. I didn't see it last video. I'm not finished with this one yet. Unless he does it here. Then that's a lie. If you say admitting cheating with High E is a pass then. That win shouldn't be counted.
I just wanted to say I really appreciate the warning at the beginning of the video about the toxicity. Normally I find that kind of behavior uncomfortable, but knowing about it ahead of time made it feel better.
Sam comparing a card that sucks in archetype and is barely accessible (Lavalval Chain) to a card that revolutionized an entire deck to bring it from tier 4 to tier 1 (3x Master Peace) is truly something.
I also found it hilarious cause battlewasp had something worse than laval chain and he played it without a second thought especially after activating the effect. This is why seereax makes sense but sams rules are very questionable.
to be honest, I agree with him, it's a matter of principle. It would be the same thing with the Lightsworn et caetera. One pass meaning every one pass. The rules were set on before, and he accepted it. petiod.
Sam four videos ago: just set your thing to unlimited who cares if exodia is limited it's your archetype. Sam here: NO iT dOesNt MAttEr if itS YuR ArCheTyPe iTs BANNED.
@@hellfiredragon066 High E is worse than Lower E by their logic, so Sam used a worst deck and win so it inst cheating because it didnt give any advantage
If sams incorrect wheel spin wasnt cheating because he didnt catch it, seereax isnt cheating because he added the banned card not knowing it was banned. Same premise in both situations. Either they both cheated on seperate occasions or neither of them cheated on seperate occasions 😂 i can't lie though...this heat just adds a little bit more spice to the video, we love yall both! lmao
Agreed with Seer Sam keeps reiterating about the "rules" but every rule should be backed up by logic. Seer questions a rule and provides valid arguments, and Sam never once responded with a counter argument to back his rule up.. PS. Nearly all archetypal cards are allowed at 3 in Thematic Yu-Gi-Oh, which I believe these two are playing a version of
Honestly that rule sound stupid they have pot and graceful which are band but an in archetype card that is band is not ok ? Not even capping Sam is crazy
@@sebastianbell941The problem with that is that's tok selcetive of what banned cards can and can't be played. Some archetypes have cards that are banned and should stay banned even if it's only that archetype but Deion getting a banned card here and then if Sam gets a broken banned card later what's stopping him from playing it? That would seem hypocritical at that point to tell him he can't
I was having a kinda a bad day. This made my day. Because this reminds me of when my and brother accidentally purposely play with banned cards to get on each other nerves.
Seereax does have a point when it comes to the use of banned cards. Why would the banned staples be allowed but not in archetype cards when the whole reason they’re banned has nothing to do with their archetype? Even with that in mind Sam is TECHNICALLY not wrong because it was mentioned in the rules. Dion should check the banlist before making his decks
I am just watching your series with @seereax and the way you are talking to each other... it reminds me how my friends and I are talking to each other. What I can say, I am entertained at the maximum level I can imagine. I am so graceful that i got like 40 videos left on this playlist and I RLY hope you keep creating stuff together
To be fair in the exodia episode you said he should`ve just added more exodia pieces to the deck instead of the dark spellcaster monsters. He didn't know he could do that because of the banlist so i can get where the confusion comes from. Nevertheless good duels to you all, it is not real yugioh if you can't have some banters every now and then.
I think Syreax genuinely didn't think it was banned or unplayable in this series. These mistakes happen far to frequent in the series. But Syreax is right about Lavalval chain being banned for being generic. I wish Sam understood that it was a genuine mistake AND ACCEPTED it and I think both could have come to terms to "treat it like a vanilla monster" or something. And make it unusable after the first duel (notice it kinda settled then) just because bottom line it was a genuine mistake. I wish Syreax wasn't bringing it up every single time though too because it made Sam feel kinda uncomfortable (and probably disrespected) It was a heated moment, in this is normal in relationships. Remember they are over it by now probably.
@@sims8717 Nobody knew except in after the fact, only viewers really with the birds eye view. High E is also categorized as the weaker build compared to Low E
I'm with seereax that if i set my deck to unlimited to put in cards like graceful, i'm not gonna think some 1800/1000 rank 4xyz monster in a low rank archtype, was gonna be banned
You guys are so good friends that just keep playing through all the fight 😅 I remember having friends that would just quit and leave for stuff like this 😂
I will say, in the exodia video Sam said Seereax could use multiple pieces of exodia even though it's limited. I understand that the laval xyz is banned, but the limited and semi-limited should be followed as well right?
They have actual rules. They are not, despite all the goofs, making them up on the fly lol. The use of that card is explicitly banned regardless of what we think of it or not
@extonjonas6820 , I understand. I just mean that in the exodia episode, Sam said Seereax could've used multiple copies of the exodia pieces when they are limited. So I feel like it could cause some confusion.
Sam is technically in the right about the rules, but I gotta say, Seereax's logic kinda makes sense The banned laval card most likely wouldn't be powerful enough to get banned if it's only being used with laval cards
He is correct. Laval wasn't banned because of how good it is within it's own archetype, it was banned because of its omni-utility with other archetypes and how it thoroughly boosts the power and consistency of those archetypes more than any singular card ever could. As well as how easy it is to get onto the board, it was rarely even used within its own archetype because in its own archetype it just *isn't* that great.
@@ZeoThatZomi They've directly mentioned using banned cards before so long as they only run one, and it is archetypal. It was a ruling they both have mentioned.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK yeah but wasn't they talking about staples, that banned staples from the wheel is allowed but the rules say you can't run banned cards even if its in the archetype
@@ZeoThatZomi The problem is that, since he was running a banned staple, he had to switch his format to unlimited, so he didn't realize that the laval card was banned. He brought up the reason for the banning thing to make the point that it didn't really matter because it wouldn't affect the outcome of the duel, especially since it does literally the same thing as the rest of his deck. Allowing some banned cards but not others makes sense on paper, but it seems problematic in practice, at least in the context of Master Duel, where you kind of rely on the game to tell you that a card is banned, especially when you've apparently never even heard of the archetype.
Sooo…officially, the series for Low-E is 3-2 in Sam’s favor right? 1 win for Seereax for Sam using the wrong tier wheel and 1 win for Sam for Seereax using a banned card.
Well, I like the use of banned cards that are part of the archetype in this series. It still keeps the integrity of the format due to not having them combined with other cards that makes them broken in the first place = the reason why they got banned in the standard forbidden list. A suggestion. Let banned archetype cards be playable at one copy. Nice content and I really like the arguments. It's hilarious! 😂
Also that Laval card is not even that good within its own archetype. What made it get banned was its omni-utility in OTHER archetypes, and that for something that os so easy to bring onto the field it offers unbeatable consistency to other non-archetypal decks that could bring it out. There was numerous world championships where Lavals never even made top 50, but all the top 10 decks ran that card because of how much it boosted their non-Laval archetype to an extreme degree.
To be fair, seereax does have a point that his deck was set to unlimited in order to have graceful charity, so he doesn’t know what cards are banned. But I get Sam POV as well
He has a valid point especially since it’s never come up before. But for since that rule is there, proper due diligence would be to look at the normal mode list to make sure none of the cards are banned in a deck he’s never played.
@@gilb25 Yes. Yes he does know. I've been watching him enough to know he knows the META and knows the integrity of the game. HE even knows the cards use for combo so how does he NOT KNow since it has been banned for a while now?
The villain is overcoming our hero Seereax! Though the protagonist has been slipping into the dark side, will this mercy given by the villain help our hero on his current path? Will the hero make a true comeback and triumph?! Come back next time on dra- I mean- YUGIOH MASTER WHEEL! (Love the content guys! Been here since the start and this is always fun to watch, I appreciate the fun rivalry you both have and also, Seereax I wish you luck! But you did kinda cheat lmao bro pulled the rule book on you 😂)
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Sam get so heated lmao, he was totally right though so I understand why. It’s like when that one friends beats you once out of a hundred times then refuses to rematch you.
For what it’s worth Sam, I do agree with you here. Tho because of last episode where you played the wrong tier deck, I think SeeReax should kind of get a pass here
Lavaval chain is one of those cards who's only banned because it's good on every deck except it's home ache type. It's like halq who if only allowed to be played in crystrons would prolly would never have seen any play. Tbh rekindling did more in seerax's deck than chain so it should've been fine
Kinda sad really for an archetype to get new support only for the new cards to mostly see play in more competitive decks outside the archetype and then getting banned, which ends up hurting the archetype.
I hope this video gets more likes than the others in the series, felt like this video was genuine and if this doesn't happen in some series, it isn't YU-GI-OH.
@damaged804 Except the rules in the past they have both stated, if those decks have that ranking, it's because of every card that belongs in the archetype that it has that ranking. The reason they used banned cards in the past is because if a low E archetype is unable to use its archetypal card that is banned, then it's even worse than its tier and the match will not be legal. Cards that are banned are often not broken in their own archetype. Lavalval chain has rarely been used effectively in a Lavalval deck, but other archetypes saw consistency boosts that were unparalleled because they splashed it in their non related archetype. A banned card isn't always good enough to save its archetype. In many cases, it's actually not going to save its archetype.
By the nature of the rules, Reax did cheat…but man this was comical as hell lmao normally Sam is the one annoying Reax to where Reax is saying “don’t talk to me”. This time it was the complete opposite 😂😂😂
21:00 Bro just listen to Seereax on this. We all know its banned but you cant keep on denying the fact that he DOES Have a point with this specific banned card. ESPECIALLY with how many of his deck does the exact same thing. Dont be such a ruleshark on this one, like those guys calling judge about everything in tournaments. Great Video, we love to see the dynamic between you two! Reminds everyone off those school yard yugioh days! :D
This video was pre-recorded before the banning of Terraforming. As you can see in my decklist, terraforming shows as “Limited”. The rules also states before the series began that if your deck contains a Field Spell, Terraforming and Metaverse is allowed. So we’re going to be sticking with that. If you want to further check out the rules please visit tsx1.com 🙏🏻
Regardless, we hope you guys enjoyed todays episode 😈
Bro Sam even called it and seereax was still cheating
That's my fault I should have read the rules. I'll eat that lmao
Nah you banned bro, to the shadow realm wit yo ass
The funny part about this video, Sam isnt even being toxic. Seereax is always being toxic in all these videos. If Seereax would learn to STFU we wouldnt have as much drama lmao.
For you, it reminded me of this song: "don't cry no more"
"This will get really toxic" Just how we like it. You're both great content creators.
Bro tryna sell me the video like I ain't already here
Agreed
I was damaged near school girl giggling this whole video replaying everything lmao this episode was funny ash bro 😂 Sam x Seereax is goated
Too bad sam crying like a baby 🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼
@@benjamindavis4683real life not enough? You have to be an idiot online as well? I know they say ignorance is bliss but don’t you think you’re taking it too far? Let’s take this to some extremes for a moment… let’s say I kidnap you and force you to play a game of Russian roulette if you want to escape with your life but the gun I gave you has a single bullet while mine has 5, hell I’m clearly cheating, let’s just go ahead and say you have a blank, you attempt to tell me that I’m clearly cheating and tell me this is unfair, but I just laugh at you, call you a little crybaby, and mock you… that’s what you just did, minus the extreme situation I conjured up as an example… sounds rather idiotic no? Or was this not toxic enough?
Damn episode 10 should be dedicated to reading the rules together lol
Agreed both should read the rules smiling lmao. Up this comment
We all know that Yugi players don't read 😅
I hope they don’t skip reading this like the rules 😂😂
I feel ya bro they definitely should
I hope so but everything was pre recorded ahahahahaha
Sams first mistake was thinking a yugioh player is gonna read the rules😂
😅😅😅
And to top it off he’s also a Dragonball fan, so that’s double the amount of no reading he’s doing.
Fr is just means bad grammar training
@@Irock2412And he carries himself like Vegeta so we know what type of timing he gonna be on 😂
Ohh dear my tea is all over the table now... i laugheg so badly
It's funny how much time Sam spent arguing about Seereax breaking the rules when he got a deck from the wrong wheel in the previous episode lmao
Lower tier deck?
true sam went high e tier and seerax went low tier deck
i thought no one else noticed that
Which episode was this hahahhaa
It evened out 🤣
Not gonna lie, I was expecting the end of the video to be both of them going to the rules and seeing who was right.
Next season, Rhym or Doto bout to pull up as a judge
This would be hilarious actually 😂
😂😂
"Wings is a Dragon Ball character, but Squawks is outrageous" -DotoDoya 2023
bro i like rhym and all but he is ass at the game from all those videos posted
They would be funny for the content. But it would piss off the people that know the rulings.
...but it would still be funny 😂
Not the disclaimer 😂😂
Seereax letting Sam play Master Peace if he got True Draco no hesitation is crazy lmao
explain whats masterpiece
@@himothy9871A banned Truedraco card that is very hard to beat once it’s summoned and likely unstoppable in a limited format such as this.
Its because there's a chance he would get it lol
Deion doesn't even know what the card does thats why he said that
@@himothy9871 it's a card that can be summoned by tributing monsters, traps or spells. It's immune to the type of cards used in it's tribute summon. It's usually played in stun decks.
If you tribute a spell and a monster for example it's immune to spells and monster effects. Then you can Royal command making traps not work. Then master peace can't be removed from the field.
This is just one example of its broken utility. There are so many things you can do with it's ability to remove it's owners own stun tools and be practically invincible. It's probably a top 5 card ever.
These two dueling reminds me of when we all played Yugioh for the first time and we would argue with each other about how the rules work. "You cant use Blue Eyes thats not fair" *normal summons Blue Eyes without tributing* These videos give me a great nostalgic feeling.
A memory I have similar to this is my friends doing the same thing, but they also had a Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon and would send them to the graveyard and treat it as a tribute summon without using Poly lol
By far the best episode of the season! “I don’t think I’ve had any friends where I didn’t make them hate me at least once” best line in the episode
Seereax brings up a good point, some cards are only banned because they are broken outside of their own archetype. You should come up with your own ban list for these duels.
But still these rules are as fair as they can be, i mean using true king of all calamities in a true draco deck is still extremly broken and it wouldnt be remotely fair.
Plus i dont think the deck wouldve been in the same tear if that card was unbanned.
Generally speaking low tier, Boss monsters normally are banned because they’re broken and other decks so seereax has a very good point. Let’s be honest, the card did the same thing as foolish burial. They should look at revising the rules and make it so that any deck lower than D tier is allowed to use one boss monster from the banlist , if it’s in archetype.
Also, I feel like Sam was so frustrated, that the rule was broken that he wasn’t really listening to what seereax has had to say, because he asked does have a very good point.
Personally If I was to Errata Lavalval Chain, to legit ONLY work with-in its Archtype, like make the effect only work if you have " So many " Laval " monsters in your GY, and since Laval's are a GY based archtype, it would be balanced, as SeeReax bring up as a fair point; " The card isn't broken when its used in its own archtype; it was only broken/banned cause its effect could be used WITH ANY DECK at all "
@@Polar87honestly the card could even target pyros or even fire monsters specifically and it would at the very least get bumped up to 1. I still strong, but not as splashable outside of specific decks.
Or you could bump the summon requirements and make it need laval monsters.
Alright, we need both them to have rule sheets at all times I hate but love seeing them fight.
Sam actually being mad because he’s right for ONCE is actually really hilarious 😂
Lol that was the funniest part of the whole thing. Sam was actually right but SeeReax was adamant 😂
He was right but at the same time, Chain in Lavals really isn't a big deal. It's just another tool for the deck. Master Peace wins the game on its own
How is Sam right. It belongs in that arch type.
@@Srs-zb5qxSeereax is that you?
@@Srs-zb5qx because the card is banned is Master Duel and the rules they agreed explicitly say (as shown at the beginning) if a monster is banned in MD it cannot be used regardless of whether it belongs to the archetype.
It was an honest mistake on SeeReax’s part because he was playing unlimited and is unfamiliar with the card, but it’s still a rule break. Sam was right.
I understand SeeReax's logic and I agree with it being a staple in the archetype. But Sam is right, it's written in the rules.
Yeah he needs to be Held at the same Standards as Sam is. Its in the rules its banned and thats that. No arguing there.
But effect wasnt game changing, so he just could let it go for first game, and than "nerf" that card if Seereax honestly made mistake by piking. Dont need blindlly citate rules, need to look at situation
Teraforming also banned in md
@@ritmantas rules are rules tho, why have rules if u dont follow them. Besides seereax wasnt like "oh my mistake" he Doubled down. I get u can be like ok just dont use it next game or just dont use the effect, but he was arguing for his life without admiting to his mistake which is just not ok. And just cause it wasnt game changing does not change a thing. Just cause your mistake luckily didnt change the result, it was still a mistake u should be Held accountable for. Thats how it is in any tournament. And again if he would man up to his mistake u can be more understanding, but he didnt. Honestly im mostly just watching for seereax, but that was just poor sportsmanship and pathetic behavior. Instead of apologizing he just made excuses.
@@yami_yuda5438 look at the pinned comment. This video was recorded before it was banned
Sam using a higher tier deck and Dion using a banned card, perfectly balanced
Outta curiosity- which episode did Sam get that higher deck? Sounds hilarious 😁
@@Vector-jm1qk I don't remember exactly which one but it has to be one of the previous ones than this
@Vector-jm1qk it was a lower tier deck, oddly enough is was far better than seeraxs deck. Either way spun the wrong wheel
@@Vector-jm1qkthe last episode, I think 8? Sam pulled from High E instead of Low E
Very bold of Sam to get mad at Deion for not reading the rules list when neither of them read card effects
When there's a disclaimer at the start you know it will be entertaining 😂😂😂
Damn right it is
I died when Dion said name a better combination than Sam & not handling a loss well HAHA although Sam did have a point here.
Sam definitely had a point considering seereax literally broke the rules but I agree with him that Chain wouldn’t be banned if it could only send laval monsters
@@bruhbruhingham4202 if it was arctype locked it would be legal at 3 100%
@@Ninpo.lightskin.mode.activated I still say it should not have been put in deck but ya it’s banned for use out of arctype not in arctype (if it was arctype locked it be legal at 3) but Sam was being kinda of a dick by insinuating it’s Seereaxs fault for not knowing ever banned card in existence with how he kept saying “and who’s fault is that” in response to serreaxs very valid response of “you put a banned card graceful charity on the staples wheel so I had to put my deck in unlimited how was I supposed to know”
Sam should have just said. I’m sorry that’s fair please remove it next match this game it’s fine. And it have ended there
@@reddragon9064 this is what I thought too, I felt like both of them could’ve handled it better and moved on, but it was funny as hell so i’m all for it LOL
@@tommywayneee as long as no one got actually upset ya
What you guys need is third person to set the rules straight, like a admin.
They already have the rules laid out and written up. For once Sam actually was in the right here but it's up to them how they want to deal with it. Deion said himself that he didn't read the rules so it is on him.
@@TheArtDump if rules are laid out and written up, how come every yugioh tournament there’s admins? This just goes to show that no matter who made the rules, there’s always loop holes. Yugioh is sometimes very complex because when you’re being specific, you ignore other cards descriptions, when you make a broad rule, it ignores specific plays. That’s why there are admins to give a 3rd point of view on what’s fair.
So... add Dzeef
And have a boring, according to the house rules duel? They'd be missing out content!
@@dvgamingpro9883 Or at the very least to review the decks so Sam can't keep yelling "You Can't Play That!" for cards that are usually perfectly valid. Their bickering is fun, but that line has gotten very old 😅
"Oh no Gohan! He's sending cards to the grave!" That had me weak😂🤣
I feel this series needs an impartial, 3rd party judge to check the rules both duelists decks to avoid both duelists from cheating - unintentionally or otherwise.
This duel felt like the duel between Marik and Bakura 😂.
They were working together and then end up turning on each other one episode and this episode describes that.
Villain teamup with another villain will never work out well.
Just waiting to see who stabs who in the back first 😂
Sam: "ITS BANNED!"
SeeReax: I just don't seem to remember who asked
My favorite thing is Sam saying this is Seereax fault for not knowing that his card is banned but he somehow spun on a completely different tier last duel. Love the series and reminds me of me and my friends playing.
Yeah, I get your point, but Sam spun the wheel for a tier below Seereax's and he still won with technically a worse deck.
The toxicity between these two is insane, though 😅
This episode was crazy. They're incredibly competitive, but yeah, I could also see myself arguing to that extent when it comes to this stupid card game that we all love for some stupid reason 😂
@@RENEGADE92wtf are you talking about. Sam spun high e and seereax spun low
@@brackkusamaz4015 high E is technically a lower tier for whatever reason, that being said, I feel like the two were mislabeled then since high E just in total has better decks than low E when you compare the two 🤔
@@brackkusamaz4015 bro high E is the worse one between the 2, are you looking at the tier wheel layout how low is infront of high 🗿 ?
@@RENEGADE92TH-cam comment section be eating crayons with the kind of long ass autism you just spewed
I completely agree with Seereax that laval chain is playable cause it is laval monster so it is part of the family
Even if Sam is right on this occasion, he really needs to stop being "boy who cried wolf" when it comes to cheating, cause even a judge will just start ignoring you if you make too many false claims.
Yeah he whines an awful lot.
@@Legionbass19 so does seereax idk wtf u talking about
@@NarutoOnlineGermany bro reax literally said stop whining about a crad who literally does the same exact thing his other card does whats wrong in that lmao
Yall aren't FAKE when you duel, you both speak your mind and don't just say what's convenient for the camera. That's what I'm here for! It shows that yall aren't just friends, you're BROTHERS!
If it's best of 7 now we should get 2 videos a week
HIGHLY AGREE
Agree
Agree
agree but considering the videos have been getting more and more toxic, I fear next episode will be them killing each other
For everyone saying Reax broke a rule and deserves the game loss so does Sam from last episode lol.
They are both silly asf
Fr man, but it's pretty entertaining lol
i mean sam says reax breaks the rules all the time XD by that logic every duel hes breaking the rules.
If players used the cards in their respective archetypes, there wouldn't be so many banned cards.
Sam cheats every 2nd episode lmao
@@quackduckquack "Those who point the finger at the dishonesty of others, but do not hesitate to cheat or steal, are simply revealing their own corrupt nature."
I love watching these 2 Duke it out every week. You can tell they get frustrated, but you can also see how much fun they are having with it.
That was a surprisingly wholesome ending considering how toxic those duels were.
Regardless of whether the card is banned or not, Sam's right that it's in the rules and Seereax shouldn't have put it in his deck and it would have been too annoying to ban/unban cards based on the reason they were banned, but Seereax is right that Lavalval Chain isn't banned for being OP in archetype
Not to mention sam has cheated too so...this just makes them even
Yeah, it was 100% cheating just because it’s against the predetermined rules.
Did it win him the duel? Probably not. Was his argument for why it’s banned correct? Yes.
But he shouldn’t have used the card.
@@Kintakuand he lost that match. Didn't use it again and won.
@@theguy8705 that and his hand that opening game was just really good. Pretty sure he could have avoided the banish another way.
I respect Sam for the way he ended it just to clear the air
@@naughter3674I'm new to this but where did sam cheat
I think they should be allowed to play the banned cards of their archetypes.
Regardless of what they choose, Seereax absolutely deserves to use it after what happened last duel.
Personally I’d say the opposite. I feel like playing the banned cards, while in archetype may not be banned, would change the tier level of deck. Like lavalval chain makes this deck better then E for sure, where it’d meant to be
@@sammckeon738 Nah, deck list tiers are calculated at a measure of all cards being considered "Playable" within their archetype. The rank is given before bans and only adjusted/readjusted during times that support comes out or errata changes. Tearlaments are still considered S+ tier because the nerfs don't affect their placement until actual archetype changes occur despite now being substantially easier to play against due to the limited/banned cards in their archetype.
@@sammckeon738 Eh, Lavalval Chain isn't really that massive for the deck, it's good, but not that good (not in pure Lavals anyways.)
Realistically, in-archetype, that card doesnt really do anything. Its not that big a deal. I feel like that rule doesn't really take into account the individual cards and I know there's a lot of cards on the forbidden/limited list so you can't check them all but this card hardly does anything in this
That's what reax argument was. The card is only special because of the text, if not that, it wouldn't be band. In a sense he is using the card the way it was meant to be used had it said laval on the text. It's very simple to see.
Yeah it's a good point. But if you have written rules and both agreed to em, it really doesn't matter. Banned is banned. With that kind of mindset it could get really janky with a lot of technicalities. I fully believe Sam is 100% in the right here (for once lmao)
@Ventovader123 true but if 99% of the time Sam is spewing that banned or cheater you can't really take him seriously even if it is playful banter. Plus from what I've seen from other people's comments apparently Sam played a different tier wheel deck yet it still counts as a win😅
@@iasked7730 Fair, Sam definitely shouted wolf one too many times and now he's getting eaten 😂
The card may do nothing but still it was against the rules and should have been excluded if known to be banned. There was still quite a number of other extra deck cards. Still not that big of a deal.
I'm with Seereax on this one. The card is banned yes, but in archtype it's fine.
Because it hardly doesn't anything except setup your next turn
It’s written in the rules and he sent it to seereax before hand archetype or not the card is banned and doesn’t fit into the challenge
@@FeRoClan0you’re implying seereax reads every single banlist for this game when he strictly plays with banned cards on his and other people’s channels… you’re not using critical thinking bud
It doesn’t matter it’s still a banned card and still cheating even if it’s unintentional
@@FeRoClan0If the rule are so important then why hasn't Sam removed his win from the game before when he used an entire illegal deck based on his own rules.
I couldn't breath since 9:07 when Lavaval Chain was summoned LMAO!!!🤣🤣🤣
The moment Seereax spinned Laval Deck, I know that Lavalval Chain will be there. And Sam will react like that. HAHA
Edit: Please continue this series. This is 🔥
I mean i think Lavalval Chain is fine considering last duel Sam used a High E deck instead of Low E
Lavalval chain is also only decent in a pure Lavalval deck. It hit the banlist because so many other archetypes could use it better and all of those other decks saw consistency that base Lavalvals wished they could have running it.
When an archetypes banned card isn't even the best in its own archetype, the archetype itself isn't good.
EXACTLY. This is fair game. Sam had an entire deck advantage last game with his High E roll. People are crazy with this one card.
@@sims8717 yeah it's a fair game but still it's part of the rules regardless if it's just one card.. if the rules says no, you cant just say "oh it's just one card and it doesnt do much for this deck".. u gotta stick to the rules eventhough that card doesnt do much in this game.. i think that's what Sam is trying to highlight tho..
For the High E roll, Sam already admit he is wrong so why bother if someone already admit his mistake ? and Seereax also dont mind gv Sam the win for that episode eventhough he play a High E deck..
@@TheRakuSama bro what kind of paint you sniffing. Sam also said once that SeeReax can run multiples of exodia. Isnt that just as bad as running that ONE banned laval? So running exodia multiples is ok but this is not? You crazy
@@TheRakuSama I don't know which part of the video he admits he's wrong about the High E roll. I didn't see it last video. I'm not finished with this one yet. Unless he does it here. Then that's a lie. If you say admitting cheating with High E is a pass then. That win shouldn't be counted.
NO SAM WE NEED YOUR SWAGGY GLASSES AND YUGI IMPRESSIONS DONT LEAVE US 😢😢🥺
+1 BRING THE GLASSES BACK. Like an alter ego sam lmfao
I just wanted to say I really appreciate the warning at the beginning of the video about the toxicity. Normally I find that kind of behavior uncomfortable, but knowing about it ahead of time made it feel better.
Im very late to this series but this was hilarious, "terraforming does not mention any instects BTW " I just died with that 😂😂
They both have a point and it's the most entertaining part of this video
Sam and his forced positivity vs Seereax natural charisma just works
Sam comparing a card that sucks in archetype and is barely accessible (Lavalval Chain) to a card that revolutionized an entire deck to bring it from tier 4 to tier 1 (3x Master Peace) is truly something.
I also found it hilarious cause battlewasp had something worse than laval chain and he played it without a second thought especially after activating the effect. This is why seereax makes sense but sams rules are very questionable.
to be honest, I agree with him, it's a matter of principle. It would be the same thing with the Lightsworn et caetera. One pass meaning every one pass. The rules were set on before, and he accepted it. petiod.
@@Rigald02 What rules bro? We Yugioh players don't read.
@@gormy7293 JUDGE!
Sam four videos ago: just set your thing to unlimited who cares if exodia is limited it's your archetype.
Sam here: NO iT dOesNt MAttEr if itS YuR ArCheTyPe iTs BANNED.
The PERFECTLY mirrored body movement with their arms at 29:34 is killing me
HOW???
LAVALVAL CHAIN Argument got me L-mao, nice one seereax!
These two argue like an old married couple and I love it😂 I love The Wheel
Sam being mad he's using a banned card, but counts him winning last game using a tier higher deck 😅
He actually used a lower tier deck but yeah I agree it’s a little strange he counts it. At least it’s now 7 games instead of three
@@wildercomet7682 no
@wildercomet7682 no last duel seereax used the low e tier like they should have. Same used high e
@@hellfiredragon066 High E is worse than Lower E by their logic, so Sam used a worst deck and win so it inst cheating because it didnt give any advantage
@joeldias5576 it's cheating if you're supposed to be fighting with the same tier deck, it's the point of the whole series
If sams incorrect wheel spin wasnt cheating because he didnt catch it, seereax isnt cheating because he added the banned card not knowing it was banned. Same premise in both situations. Either they both cheated on seperate occasions or neither of them cheated on seperate occasions 😂 i can't lie though...this heat just adds a little bit more spice to the video, we love yall both! lmao
Agreed with Seer
Sam keeps reiterating about the "rules" but every rule should be backed up by logic. Seer questions a rule and provides valid arguments, and Sam never once responded with a counter argument to back his rule up..
PS. Nearly all archetypal cards are allowed at 3 in Thematic Yu-Gi-Oh, which I believe these two are playing a version of
For once, Sam is actually right when he said "you can't play that"
Sam got that Boy who cried wolf treatment today lol
Honestly that rule sound stupid they have pot and graceful which are band but an in archetype card that is band is not ok ? Not even capping Sam is crazy
@@hibarikyoya854the difference is one is earned through a luck system of which you can get only one. The other one is free and without restrictions.
@petkopetkov7298 yeah but seereax made a good point if it's just LAVAL monsters then chain isn't nearly as broken as it is in neutral....
@@sebastianbell941The problem with that is that's tok selcetive of what banned cards can and can't be played. Some archetypes have cards that are banned and should stay banned even if it's only that archetype but Deion getting a banned card here and then if Sam gets a broken banned card later what's stopping him from playing it? That would seem hypocritical at that point to tell him he can't
i love how scuffed the rules have been makes for great content excited for next episode
I was having a kinda a bad day. This made my day. Because this reminds me of when my and brother accidentally purposely play with banned cards to get on each other nerves.
"accidentally"...
Lol
Seereax does have a point when it comes to the use of banned cards. Why would the banned staples be allowed but not in archetype cards when the whole reason they’re banned has nothing to do with their archetype? Even with that in mind Sam is TECHNICALLY not wrong because it was mentioned in the rules. Dion should check the banlist before making his decks
I am just watching your series with @seereax and the way you are talking to each other... it reminds me how my friends and I are talking to each other. What I can say, I am entertained at the maximum level I can imagine. I am so graceful that i got like 40 videos left on this playlist and I RLY hope you keep creating stuff together
Aint no way sam saying he cheating when he cheated with a whole deck tier higher and still kept his win 😂
Lmao 😂 this is best episode ever, both of you are amazing people
This series is going to give Sam a heart attack
His blood pressure is through the roof 😂
Sam just gives the toxic players vibe , i watched him in everything from master challenges to duel night and he's always salty
The fact that Sam also getting so heated about the Rules when he himself broke the Rules is peak TSX
To be fair in the exodia episode you said he should`ve just added more exodia pieces to the deck instead of the dark spellcaster monsters. He didn't know he could do that because of the banlist so i can get where the confusion comes from. Nevertheless good duels to you all, it is not real yugioh if you can't have some banters every now and then.
I think Syreax genuinely didn't think it was banned or unplayable in this series. These mistakes happen far to frequent in the series. But Syreax is right about Lavalval chain being banned for being generic. I wish Sam understood that it was a genuine mistake AND ACCEPTED it and I think both could have come to terms to "treat it like a vanilla monster" or something. And make it unusable after the first duel (notice it kinda settled then) just because bottom line it was a genuine mistake. I wish Syreax wasn't bringing it up every single time though too because it made Sam feel kinda uncomfortable (and probably disrespected)
It was a heated moment, in this is normal in relationships. Remember they are over it by now probably.
Bro used High E deck last game and didn't bring it up once.
@@sims8717 Nobody knew except in after the fact, only viewers really with the birds eye view. High E is also categorized as the weaker build compared to Low E
The attempted recovery after the argument was so awkward 😂
I'm with seereax that if i set my deck to unlimited to put in cards like graceful, i'm not gonna think some 1800/1000 rank 4xyz monster in a low rank archtype, was gonna be banned
This is the funniest wheel of Yu-Gi-Oh challenge ever especially when cheating is involved. Will Smith slapping Chris Rock moment
You guys are so good friends that just keep playing through all the fight 😅 I remember having friends that would just quit and leave for stuff like this 😂
I will say, in the exodia video Sam said Seereax could use multiple pieces of exodia even though it's limited. I understand that the laval xyz is banned, but the limited and semi-limited should be followed as well right?
trueeee
They have actual rules. They are not, despite all the goofs, making them up on the fly lol. The use of that card is explicitly banned regardless of what we think of it or not
@extonjonas6820 , I understand. I just mean that in the exodia episode, Sam said Seereax could've used multiple copies of the exodia pieces when they are limited. So I feel like it could cause some confusion.
It wouldn't be a true TSX1 and Seerax video if they weren't fighting about the rules. This is honestly so entertaining.
Sam is technically in the right about the rules, but I gotta say, Seereax's logic kinda makes sense
The banned laval card most likely wouldn't be powerful enough to get banned if it's only being used with laval cards
He is correct. Laval wasn't banned because of how good it is within it's own archetype, it was banned because of its omni-utility with other archetypes and how it thoroughly boosts the power and consistency of those archetypes more than any singular card ever could. As well as how easy it is to get onto the board, it was rarely even used within its own archetype because in its own archetype it just *isn't* that great.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCKyeah but the point was that it's banned not why it was banned, even if it was banned for a stupid reason a ban is a ban
@@ZeoThatZomi They've directly mentioned using banned cards before so long as they only run one, and it is archetypal. It was a ruling they both have mentioned.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK yeah but wasn't they talking about staples, that banned staples from the wheel is allowed but the rules say you can't run banned cards even if its in the archetype
@@ZeoThatZomi The problem is that, since he was running a banned staple, he had to switch his format to unlimited, so he didn't realize that the laval card was banned. He brought up the reason for the banning thing to make the point that it didn't really matter because it wouldn't affect the outcome of the duel, especially since it does literally the same thing as the rest of his deck. Allowing some banned cards but not others makes sense on paper, but it seems problematic in practice, at least in the context of Master Duel, where you kind of rely on the game to tell you that a card is banned, especially when you've apparently never even heard of the archetype.
Sooo…officially, the series for Low-E is 3-2 in Sam’s favor right? 1 win for Seereax for Sam using the wrong tier wheel and 1 win for Sam for Seereax using a banned card.
Sam crying will forever be my favourite thing ever because for once he's right but idc because he crys every episode 😂
At least the video got oddly wholesome at the end with them talking about how they treat their close friends/family
This is the best series you both have right now.
But maybe a third party can review decklists to avoid any confusion?
This seem to be the logical conclusion
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Well, I like the use of banned cards that are part of the archetype in this series. It still keeps the integrity of the format due to not having them combined with other cards that makes them broken in the first place = the reason why they got banned in the standard forbidden list.
A suggestion. Let banned archetype cards be playable at one copy.
Nice content and I really like the arguments. It's hilarious! 😂
See I thought they had it as banned=only 1 copy
Also that Laval card is not even that good within its own archetype. What made it get banned was its omni-utility in OTHER archetypes, and that for something that os so easy to bring onto the field it offers unbeatable consistency to other non-archetypal decks that could bring it out.
There was numerous world championships where Lavals never even made top 50, but all the top 10 decks ran that card because of how much it boosted their non-Laval archetype to an extreme degree.
Actually got a headache from laughing so hard at your reactions to SeeReax's constant trolling! Priceless!
I think this is a good opportunity to update the rule on the power point then show it in class.
After seeing the power point I have no words.
To be fair, seereax does have a point that his deck was set to unlimited in order to have graceful charity, so he doesn’t know what cards are banned. But I get Sam POV as well
Seereax knows this card is banned. He was just playing dumb for chat.
He has a valid point especially since it’s never come up before.
But for since that rule is there, proper due diligence would be to look at the normal mode list to make sure none of the cards are banned in a deck he’s never played.
@@C_H_U_ does he know tho? Seereax likes playing Yugioh, but I don’t think he is the type to know that things are ban, etc.
@@gilb25 Yes. Yes he does know. I've been watching him enough to know he knows the META and knows the integrity of the game. HE even knows the cards use for combo so how does he NOT KNow since it has been banned for a while now?
@@C_H_U_sam isn't going to see your comment little bro
The villain is overcoming our hero Seereax! Though the protagonist has been slipping into the dark side, will this mercy given by the villain help our hero on his current path? Will the hero make a true comeback and triumph?! Come back next time on dra- I mean- YUGIOH MASTER WHEEL!
(Love the content guys! Been here since the start and this is always fun to watch, I appreciate the fun rivalry you both have and also, Seereax I wish you luck! But you did kinda cheat lmao bro pulled the rule book on you 😂)
I was about to type a previously on Master Wheel Z comment but ya kinda beat me to it😅
@@Starkiller8472 Great minds think alike 👍
Sam was right but i think seereax was also right 😅 if laval was errata'd to say only send lavals, noone would bat an eye.
That clip in the beginning where the 2 kids are fighting was perfect to describe what we witnessed in this video
Yo I never seen Seereax be this evil in this series. 😂😂😂. He really got inside your head for real. Best video by far.
Well deion also did legitimately break the rules lol.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Sam get so heated lmao, he was totally right though so I understand why. It’s like when that one friends beats you once out of a hundred times then refuses to rematch you.
He played an entire tier higher and kept his win the episode before though..... So he's wrong on principle
@@PicmanrebornHigh E is technically a LOWER tier then Low E. He played a worse tier and won. That’s why it counted as a win.
@@PicmanrebornI’m saying technically because that’s how the wheel spin is set up.
For what it’s worth Sam, I do agree with you here. Tho because of last episode where you played the wrong tier deck, I think SeeReax should kind of get a pass here
Lavaval chain is one of those cards who's only banned because it's good on every deck except it's home ache type. It's like halq who if only allowed to be played in crystrons would prolly would never have seen any play. Tbh rekindling did more in seerax's deck than chain so it should've been fine
Kinda sad really for an archetype to get new support only for the new cards to mostly see play in more competitive decks outside the archetype and then getting banned, which ends up hurting the archetype.
29:34 when they unknowingly mirrored each other mid salt, made me audibly lol
I hope this video gets more likes than the others in the series, felt like this video was genuine and if this doesn't happen in some series, it isn't YU-GI-OH.
Didn’t Sam play from the wrong tier the other video lol I think seereax is okay😂
I like the use of banned cards since they’re tied to their archetypes in these duels.
no its unfair. not every deck has a broken card like for example master peace...
@damaged804 Except the rules in the past they have both stated, if those decks have that ranking, it's because of every card that belongs in the archetype that it has that ranking. The reason they used banned cards in the past is because if a low E archetype is unable to use its archetypal card that is banned, then it's even worse than its tier and the match will not be legal.
Cards that are banned are often not broken in their own archetype. Lavalval chain has rarely been used effectively in a Lavalval deck, but other archetypes saw consistency boosts that were unparalleled because they splashed it in their non related archetype.
A banned card isn't always good enough to save its archetype. In many cases, it's actually not going to save its archetype.
You better have more of those deckboxes or 2nd drop cuz they are gonna fly off even quicker than everything else before. It looks so sick!
Seereax sarcasm in game 2 had be rolling
Incredible video. Don't get toxic just for content going forward, but you two genuinely going back and forth like that was hilarious.
I think you should allow each other to use banned cards within the archetype unless said card was banned as a hit to the archetype deck itself
By the nature of the rules, Reax did cheat…but man this was comical as hell lmao normally Sam is the one annoying Reax to where Reax is saying “don’t talk to me”. This time it was the complete opposite 😂😂😂
How is it cheating
@@brandonlacy5918it was in the rules bro
@@malikjackson9337But Sam cheated last video by using a Higher Tier Deck against Seereax, so it evens out this time.
@@codenamelance6518 lower tier deck
@@Shihlyse High E is above Low E, it's just placed weirdly on the site. Check for yourself.
Watching this series out of order. Sam doesnt complain when he uses a "banned" card. "Its part of the archetype".
Maybe it's ptsd from having to play against it in the past... XD
21:00 Bro just listen to Seereax on this. We all know its banned but you cant keep on denying the fact that he DOES Have a point with this specific banned card. ESPECIALLY with how many of his deck does the exact same thing. Dont be such a ruleshark on this one, like those guys calling judge about everything in tournaments.
Great Video, we love to see the dynamic between you two! Reminds everyone off those school yard yugioh days! :D
The fact that seereax had Sam quiet asf was so funny 😂😂😂. Glad you a good sport
I think lavalval chain being used just for his archetype is fine.
@@RNE1993 yeah, but being able to send a card to the gy when you deck is trash changes nothing.
@@gaugusto1000ablelaval effects revolve around the gy so while the deck as a whole isn’t busted laval chain makes it a lot closer to busted then trash
@@gaugusto1000ableStill against the rules brother
@@hombojimbo mean sam cheated last episode so it evens out 😂
@@annusforever3106 yeah, but laval has no single card that sending it to the gy has any major effect.
I really enjoy this series even when they annoy each other.
The absolute salt coming out of both of you is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂
I want in like 4 months when they’re playing tearalements for Sam to put lavaval chain in his deck
That Spanish comin out not wanting to lose the argument