I like the way they talk about how they speak it's different I like that I hope they keep it. These writers of these stories of Soul reaver, they're like no other lol.
I feel bad for Turel, constantly tortured, possessed, barely fed, hounded every day, and kept prisoner in that pit. Being completely blind. Justice for Turel.
Interesting take on Turel from his dying words it does seem like all he wanted in the end was to be set free, idk if there's any that i feel too bad for but Rahab i kinda always found interesting because he seemed to be the most loyal towards kain and was actually the least hostile one towards Raziel to the point just maybe they didn't have to turn into a fight to the death who knows and he just seemed like a loyal guy in his place to kain that i feel kinda went underappreciated i kinda would've liked more scenes with Rahab i would love to see more lore unveiled on Raziel's brethrens probably could've done more with them.
@@MaryAnders-gz5nf yea he definitely felt like the less likely one to betray Kain. i also wonder since apparently Soul reaver 1 remaster will have the cut content that was left out the original i wonder if they'll actually have turel boss fight in this one since i heard that was one of the cut content but if so that'll be intersting for if they remaster defiance later on thats a piece of the story that will get left out or altered
I miss this game and thanks for the description of which brother is which i always got their names confused and also could never tell who was who in their regular vampire forms lol
lol yea i understand digging through lore and stuff is what it takes the games don't always point these out in plain sight but also the beauty of the legacy of kain series is how much in depth lore it has, and yea my favorite is blood omen 2 but soul reaver 1 is my first entry into the series i had it on dreamcast when i was a little kid
@@BloodRainKnightX yea when i was younger i got lost alot the furthest i would make it to for the longest time was a little bit after the Zephon fight but now i know the map through and through
@@waynetemplar2183 Awesome man. this is a cool and funny way of remember which is which lol. yea for me i just went by the colors they wore like Rahab has blue,Turel has green,Zephon has lighter green or blue but has a long face lol,dumah has purple and melchiah has orange for the longest time thats what i went by now i can tell them better but yea the colors they wore was my key. and yea turel does have big ears and his hairline is so far back lmao
Honestly they should have sticked to the revenge story . That was legacy of Kain at its best. Soul Reaver 1 was the peak and it’s all downhill from here : Blood omen 2 really poisoned the franchise well. The original writer didn’t have the hylden in mind and it shows : When they started going into Hylden that’s when the entire franchise progressively go south. Because she had to retrofit everything to include the hylden and it became a convoluted mess - the pillars , kain motivation, the soul reaver, Hash'ak'gik etc… everything original meaning was twisted to incorporate the damn Hylden. As an overall rule , Good stories have narrative clarity. That’s what make them enticing compared to the complexity and uncertainty of life. Kain got corrupt, seeked revenge and got lost. Raziel got corrupt and seeked revenge. There was plenty enough going with that without adding the damn Hylden and all those BS prophecies and twist over twist over twist. I loved taking out Kain lieutenants : making my way to them, seeing how they degenerated and taking them out each in a different way until making my way to Kain. LoK franchise is a crying shame. There was some pretty cool lore ( guardians, serafan-vampire battle, vampire races , destroyed nosogth ,. ) and a few cool gameplay ideas (spiritual plane puzzle, using environment to kill vampires ) Could have been much better by keeping it simple.
@@plgjp83 I believe this is my most unpopular opinion that i have about anything but Blood Omen 2 is actually my favorite lok game😐 haha, however even so i do understand the massive story flaws the game has though i may not agree with alot of critiques the lok fandom has about blood omen 2 i am willing to hear out what people think of it. That said i do find it interesting to feel everything is downhill after soul reaver 1 because i believe soul reaver 2 had a phenomenal story of course bringing in time traveling is always a risky move and they honestly didn't have to go a time travel route and would've preferred id they stuck to one timeline however i think it didn't get too bad not as bad as what's happening with Mortal Kombat's terrible multiverse crap. As for the hylden story maybe another unpopular opinion idk but i actually like the involvement of a rivaled race to the vampires i just dont like how they were just thrown at us so sudden though, Soul Reaver 2 kinda lingers around these beings but not until the end where Kain says to Raziel "The Hylden we walked right into their trap" is where we get our attention turned towards them which is where Blood Omen 2 comes in as the events is most likely what Kain saw in his vision that opened up a past memory that he had forgotten i know i agree it's pretty messy,so they hint around at them in SR2 then we see them in BO2 i like the hylden involvement but i can understand not being a fan retcons are almost never a good thing.
@@BloodRainKnightX Strictly speaking I don’t care about BO2 as much as I hate what it did to the overall LoK franchise by jamming the hylden in it. Basically the hylden have nothing interesting about them and they retroactively make absolutely every single thing in the lore complicated if not downright dumb. So I very strongly dislike the concept. Like you said : retcons are almost never a good thing and once again LoK proves it so. How much of a bad turn it was can be seen at several levels : - 1 The very fact that SR 1 was a critical darling and by far the biggest commercial hit of the franchise ( selling as much as the 3 following games put together) and that the sales from there kept decreasing tells a very clear story about how the majority feels about this . -2 The fact that defiance let the story unfinished and they didn’t bother picking it up in all those years is another clue of how much an unfixable radioactive mess the storyline had become. - 3 The additional fact that Sam Barrow stated publicly they he wanted to take inspiration from SR1 core and fast forward thousands of year to ignore everything else is another damning judgment on the following games. But there is yet another thing that I want to point out - it’s much more subtle but even more meaningful about what went wrong : the thing is overall LoR has always been kinda rough around the edges. Even for SR1 It doesn’t take long to notice that it was unfinished with plenty of stuff that feels strange or outright missing ( one lieutenant that doesn’t appear, the lack of enemy variety, the abrupt cliffhanger ,.) and if you dig around you eventually learn about all the content that was cut (including some alternative ending still hidden within the game files) . But the thing is : nobody really cared and in many cases even noticed - because the core vision was viable and more powerful and people forgive a lot of the flaws when the feeling is right. The reason why the franchise burned out was not because of some flaws but because the feeling was not right anymore - LoK had simply lost its spirit. Revenge story, spiritual puzzle,. Thrown away and buried under a mountain of Hylden plot poo. So yeah F the hylden.
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I like the way they talk about how they speak it's different I like that I hope they keep it. These writers of these stories of Soul reaver, they're like no other lol.
@@craigwright8216 yea the remasters for soul reaver 1&2 come out December 10th im excited i hope you get it too 🤗
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I feel bad for Turel, constantly tortured, possessed, barely fed, hounded every day, and kept prisoner in that pit. Being completely blind.
Justice for Turel.
Interesting take on Turel from his dying words it does seem like all he wanted in the end was to be set free, idk if there's any that i feel too bad for but Rahab i kinda always found interesting because he seemed to be the most loyal towards kain and was actually the least hostile one towards Raziel to the point just maybe they didn't have to turn into a fight to the death who knows and he just seemed like a loyal guy in his place to kain that i feel kinda went underappreciated i kinda would've liked more scenes with Rahab i would love to see more lore unveiled on Raziel's brethrens probably could've done more with them.
@BloodRainKnightX Rahab was thr middle child so to say, he was constantly proving himself to Kain of his loyalty and devotion.
@@MaryAnders-gz5nf yea he definitely felt like the less likely one to betray Kain. i also wonder since apparently Soul reaver 1 remaster will have the cut content that was left out the original i wonder if they'll actually have turel boss fight in this one since i heard that was one of the cut content but if so that'll be intersting for if they remaster defiance later on thats a piece of the story that will get left out or altered
Such music
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Best story in gaming
@@gerc2005 Agree Legacy of Kain lore is so incredible and very much in depth.
Oh yes
I miss this game and thanks for the description of which brother is which i always got their names confused and also could never tell who was who in their regular vampire forms lol
lol yea i understand digging through lore and stuff is what it takes the games don't always point these out in plain sight but also the beauty of the legacy of kain series is how much in depth lore it has, and yea my favorite is blood omen 2 but soul reaver 1 is my first entry into the series i had it on dreamcast when i was a little kid
@@BloodRainKnightX yea when i was younger i got lost alot the furthest i would make it to for the longest time was a little bit after the Zephon fight but now i know the map through and through
I remember Kain's lieutenants this way; Blue face is Rahab, Scar face is Melchia, Big ears is Turel, Ponytail is Dumah and the one left over is Zephon
@@waynetemplar2183 Awesome man. this is a cool and funny way of remember which is which lol. yea for me i just went by the colors they wore like Rahab has blue,Turel has green,Zephon has lighter green or blue but has a long face lol,dumah has purple and melchiah has orange for the longest time thats what i went by now i can tell them better but yea the colors they wore was my key. and yea turel does have big ears and his hairline is so far back lmao
rahabs death was pretty funny
lmfao even though i like Rahab i did indeed always find both his design and death funny🤣
Honestly they should have sticked to the revenge story . That was legacy of Kain at its best.
Soul Reaver 1 was the peak and it’s all downhill from here : Blood omen 2 really poisoned the franchise well. The original writer didn’t have the hylden in mind and it shows : When they started going into Hylden that’s when the entire franchise progressively go south. Because she had to retrofit everything to include the hylden and it became a convoluted mess - the pillars , kain motivation, the soul reaver, Hash'ak'gik etc… everything original meaning was twisted to incorporate the damn Hylden.
As an overall rule , Good stories have narrative clarity. That’s what make them enticing compared to the complexity and uncertainty of life. Kain got corrupt, seeked revenge and got lost. Raziel got corrupt and seeked revenge. There was plenty enough going with that without adding the damn Hylden and all those BS prophecies and twist over twist over twist. I loved taking out Kain lieutenants : making my way to them, seeing how they degenerated and taking them out each in a different way until making my way to Kain. LoK franchise is a crying shame. There was some pretty cool lore ( guardians, serafan-vampire battle, vampire races , destroyed nosogth ,. ) and a few cool gameplay ideas (spiritual plane puzzle, using environment to kill vampires ) Could have been much better by keeping it simple.
@@plgjp83 I believe this is my most unpopular opinion that i have about anything but Blood Omen 2 is actually my favorite lok game😐 haha, however even so i do understand the massive story flaws the game has though i may not agree with alot of critiques the lok fandom has about blood omen 2 i am willing to hear out what people think of it. That said i do find it interesting to feel everything is downhill after soul reaver 1 because i believe soul reaver 2 had a phenomenal story of course bringing in time traveling is always a risky move and they honestly didn't have to go a time travel route and would've preferred id they stuck to one timeline however i think it didn't get too bad not as bad as what's happening with Mortal Kombat's terrible multiverse crap. As for the hylden story maybe another unpopular opinion idk but i actually like the involvement of a rivaled race to the vampires i just dont like how they were just thrown at us so sudden though, Soul Reaver 2 kinda lingers around these beings but not until the end where Kain says to Raziel "The Hylden we walked right into their trap" is where we get our attention turned towards them which is where Blood Omen 2 comes in as the events is most likely what Kain saw in his vision that opened up a past memory that he had forgotten i know i agree it's pretty messy,so they hint around at them in SR2 then we see them in BO2 i like the hylden involvement but i can understand not being a fan retcons are almost never a good thing.
@@BloodRainKnightX Strictly speaking I don’t care about BO2 as much as I hate what it did to the overall LoK franchise by jamming the hylden in it. Basically the hylden have nothing interesting about them and they retroactively make absolutely every single thing in the lore complicated if not downright dumb. So I very strongly dislike the concept. Like you said : retcons are almost never a good thing and once again LoK proves it so.
How much of a bad turn it was can be seen at several levels :
- 1 The very fact that SR 1 was a critical darling and by far the biggest commercial hit of the franchise ( selling as much as the 3 following games put together) and that the sales from there kept decreasing tells a very clear story about how the majority feels about this .
-2 The fact that defiance let the story unfinished and they didn’t bother picking it up in all those years is another clue of how much an unfixable radioactive mess the storyline had become.
- 3 The additional fact that Sam Barrow stated publicly they he wanted to take inspiration from SR1 core and fast forward thousands of year to ignore everything else is another damning judgment on the following games.
But there is yet another thing that I want to point out - it’s much more subtle but even more meaningful about what went wrong : the thing is overall LoR has always been kinda rough around the edges. Even for SR1 It doesn’t take long to notice that it was unfinished with plenty of stuff that feels strange or outright missing ( one lieutenant that doesn’t appear, the lack of enemy variety, the abrupt cliffhanger ,.) and if you dig around you eventually learn about all the content that was cut (including some alternative ending still hidden within the game files) . But the thing is : nobody really cared and in many cases even noticed - because the core vision was viable and more powerful and people forgive a lot of the flaws when the feeling is right. The reason why the franchise burned out was not because of some flaws but because the feeling was not right anymore - LoK had simply lost its spirit. Revenge story, spiritual puzzle,. Thrown away and buried under a mountain of Hylden plot poo.
So yeah F the hylden.