What we know about Thursday's massive pileup on I-35W in Fort Worth
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- Officials said Thursday evening that six people have died from the pileup crash. More than 60 people sought medical care after the wreck, authorities said.
“Never exit your vehicle on an icy bridge”
Sounds like that one guy saved his own life by getting out of his car..
Ask yourself first why is the bridge icy? It shouldn’t be at any time.
All I can say is...unbelievable!!
@@stevecristofaro5267 I live in Canada. All bridges over water are treacherous at temperatures near, at, and below freezing. Don't lane- change at these times. Also, speeds ought to be vastly reduced before reaching these bridges. All the best to you.
There is not one answer for every situation.
@@diannekalk481 yes I’m aware I live in Montreal we have 10 very large bridges Surrounding Montreal as you know Montreal is an island and surrounded by water and all bridges going over the water. we’ve never had any issues over here because they are all very well-maintained
My father was a civil engineer and spoke about unsafe highway designs ......no shoulders, no lanes leading to exits, exits making drivers "crossover" to get off, with entrances at the same place to oncoming traffic. Chicago highways are known for that as I noticed how these constructions caused juggernauts, back ups and accidents. Yea, certain contractors get these big money jobs from cities and states, they cut corners and put drivers at risk for their faulty designs !!
yes exactly
Public-private partnership. Typical.
Yes Houston freeways are like that too and not maintained well
You bet. This is how it's done now, substandard. Next let's talk about all these "pack n stack" apartment buildings going up everywhere . . . .
Wow!
Treated only 2 days before? Way too long there dummies.
No kidding should be doing it every couple hours
i seen one sand truck driving down the center of two lanes at the same time. this makes it bad because only oneside of the car gets sand on the tires when breaking. it pulls the car to the side with the sand. makes the car spin out.
This is very sad, I live in Ontario Canada and our roads are treated before icy storms etc. I’m not familiar with how things work there, however I hope they change how they treat roads. RIP 🙏🏻💙 😥
I seen the roads look like it needed that night or Morning Not 2 days before smh
I lost my friend this accident. My heart is with you Aaron.
My condolences.
Your friend's family are in my thoughts and prayers. 😭🙏❤
I’m sorry
So sorry 😢😭🙏🏼🕊
Sorry to hear that.
My full condolences go to you , i lost a friend recently & the grieving is a long process . I hope you stay safe & blessed 🦋
I just prayed for everyone that was affected, hurt in this crash and to all of the family members. Everyone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pray for everyone! Please be safe you all!
I love how it's never a problem until it's caused deaths, prayers for the families
True of many things in life, sadly.
yup and when you go with private for profit companies versus public they don't have to care about public safety apparently. they all ready got the money and approval of the project. I think whoever in charge of approving the project should be held accountable because as someone stated above it was approved without a shoulder/proper exits. so someone agreed to this design.
A lot of laws and regulations for many industries are written in the blood of the dead. Change only happens when stuff like this happens.
"Be careful on bridges and overpasses" unfortunately 70% of north Texas highways are bridges. They need to be more pro-active in prepping the surfaces and forcing people to slow down when ice is forming.
I agree.
All of those roads need shoulders....to have an express option with no shoulders for emergency vehicles is my biggest criticism, because these drivers had nowhere to go to get out of the way. As a native from the far northwestern corner of Wisconsin, I can tell you I’ve avoided dozens of accidents in every weather condition up here simply by being able to get out of the way. And anyway, how exactly do you “force” people to slow down, ever??
@@voraciousreader3341 I agree.
@@voraciousreader3341 Yes! I'm also from Wisconsin, now living in Fort Worth, I've wondered why these roads are designed this way!
Jessica just left Racine TX doesn’t get this often. .. Last time it snowed was when the Super Bowl was in Arlington. .. this is a rare occasion for us Texans
Semi trucks should be banned from those express lanes.
Seriously. That FedEx video of that truck just screaming away, flew over and onto other cars. There's no excuse for the speed they were traveling, black ice or not. Had there been no trucks in that lane, I wonder if there would have been any deaths at all.
@@windygirl2342 ive seen semis pushing 90MPH
If they treated the highway 2 days earlier...the cars could easily make the salt off the road
People so insensitive bro. “Shouldn’t have been speeding” look at the video people was going at least 45 mph the bottom line is they couldn’t stop. They had no where to turn no where to go but into the wall or another vehicle. The only vehicle I seen actually going fast was the fed ex truck
Dude..fedex trucks are heavier which make it seem it's speeding
If you were going down the same road you'd prob be involved it was unpreventable. It was a trap waiting to happen
@@matthewgwinn1568 most people can't comprehend what you're saying
(Were) not "was".
@@excusemenoexcusemeno1671 yeah, that
We don’t have highways like that here in Wisconsin that I’ve ever seen. Looks like a death trap if your car breaks down or you have a 100 car pile up.. Jesus that is scary.
There’s unfortunately just not enough room to build the highway space that we actually need here. Especially with so many people moving to DFW. That is one of the many poorly designed and fairly new highways built here.
Of course there arent any highways like this in Wisconsin. DFW has more people in it than your whole state.
@cabebet ive lived in Dallas for over 35 years. Its not really that uncommon to experience ice and snow. Now the low temperatures, that's a different story.
Youre RIGHT WIsconsin..y'all smart...death trap / speeding / right.....fr Ft Worth......
@cabebet you dont know anything you idiot....
Federal Highway Administration approved that road without a shoulder
Exactly!!!
Some politician was paid Off.
ALL PROBLEMS IN OUR SOCIETY ARE CAUSED BY GOVERNMENT
Horrible!!! Who? And how do things like this that we can see are a disaster waiting to happen allowed?
@@drewjohnson4794 LOL ignore the “public private” part where highway was designed to make $$
@@drewjohnson4794 ok. If you say so. From being in traffic engineering it typically comes down to taxpayers not wanting higher taxes so make sure you always vote for higher taxes
@@ivyyoung521 drive in California- nearly no highway in the city has a shoulder. It’s not that it was built that way originally- it’s that they added a lane and used up the shoulder. It’s a cheaper way to provide another lane without widening an entire highway. We used to build highways like this everywhere
Fact: Excess speed is the largest factor!
SPEED KILLS ☠️
If below 32, slow the F$”& down, common sense!
Some were going over 70-85 mph it seems.
I love the express lanes but the cement barriers with no shoulders shouldn’t even be legal.
It's a death trap
it is for police traps when they chase cars. my opinion.
On my way home from work last night I had a lady in an SUV one lane over and just ahead of me Riding the brake across every icy bridge. Stay far away from people like that!
Their will be a multi billion dollar class action lawsuit against the DOT. We are in the process of filling the first papers.
They salt and sanded roads 2 days b4 accident says the reporter..
..it has to be done hourly ..what a horrible accident .
this could have been prevented.
And then from speeding too
I know in PA when it's snowing and icy salt crews work throughout the night during the snow and after. People are warned prior te weather conditions don't get out unless you have too, to get enough supplies to last you in case you can't get out. 2 days before would have left those roads in terrible condition!!!! No wonder there was a pile up!!!!
Texas doesn’t know about this stuff. We aren’t used to this
@@bettybenitez9865 I totally agree I'm originally from upstate NY. And WE know to prepare for this stuff ..texas is just not accustomed to storms like this .
@@quinbest While this is true, there's nothing stopping the road authority from contacting a northern state to ask what should be done to prepare for it before the storms hit. But then that seems like common sense to me, and state government isn't always familiar with such a thing.
What we know is people drive way too fast for icy conditions.
People drive way to fast for dry conditions too
This was unexpected black ice that was just over a rise in the road. Once they saw what was happening, it was too late.
@@paulmonk7820 "Unexpected" and "Bridge + Freezing Temperatures" don't go together. Everyone should expect ice to be present and drive accordingly. There's a reason for the thousands of "bridge ices before road" signs in the area.
especially when you can't see it
Advertisers have played a role in the "too fast for conditions" debate. They show their vehicles maneuvering in unreal manners to hype and sell their brand of cars, trucks, and suv's. Who pays attention to that "professional driver on a closed course" disclaimer anyways?
if the highway was so bad why didn't they shut it down before this happened and treat the roads highway department should have been out there not Wait until something like this happens
because it froze over in just a few minutes. It takes that long just to find an extrance.
And shut down when the first call came in
Do they salt the road ?
Those fews mins when it froze instantly
I was driving on i30 at 4am and they didn’t freeze in minutes.... they didn’t salt anything!!! It was 28 degrees out and if someone had been monitoring the highways and not being cheap and put salt out because they knew the weather was going to be bad this would have never happened .... in 5 Miles I saw 4 semi’s wrecked and probably 7 cars
2 days earlier isn't enough last I checked it can rain where I can turn to ice anytime in those two days which goes on top of the sand
Things we never think about.... Countless times, when driving on icy roads and come up on an accident, I've pulled off into the shoulder, or cars in front of me have, because a truck behind us was loosing traction as it tried to stop. It gives precious more feet for it to come to a stop avoiding more of a pile up. But without that... I can't imagine the feeling of seeing the cars sliding behind you, you want to move out of the way, but there's no where to go and you just have to brace for impact. .
Agreed. This highway was already horrible before the toll and now worse because of the toll. No shoulder no where to go :(
Right I sure was about to say that. .. Born in raised in FW I live right off Berry and 35
@@franknitti2922 .. . Since you live in the area... Is there something you can explain to me that just seems strange. ..... Why is it that the traffic in the opposite lane seemed to recognise that the road was solid black ice, so the traffic was crawling along. But the traffic on the side of the accident didn't ? All the vehicles being funnelled through like a cattle chute could be the sole cause, but I'm just figured there had to be something that wasn't obvious in all the videos.
@@redchic All you need us one person to skid or lose control and with no shoulders, they have no where to go.
@@redchic idiots in the express lanes are a special breed.
Slow down. Is the key, but drivers dont care, driving fast, like they ruuning out time.tailgating
It’s Texas of course this will happen
@Cff Champ the way those cars were crunched, they were not driving slow, you can see that by the evidence.
I have driven that roadway during the day in minimum traffic and it felt dangerous and confusing to drive. It’s a horrible highway
I drive that stretch when visiting two years ago. I loved it. Dallas driver put down their phone and drive and it’s kinda nice. But many highways are elevated and raised which is horrible for freezing so this sort of thing will happen if people don’t slow the f down.
Totally agree! A waste of money
Why is there a highway in the middle of a high way?
@@mralabbad7 from a friend who recently moved from there: it’s a privatized express toll road built down the center of an existing highway as I understand it
@@mralabbad7 because money 💵
My heart goes out to those who lost love ones
I just cut my heart out for those loved ones, i am dead now,.
My cousin’s neighbor was part of the 6 unfortunate people that died, I didn’t know her but my Uncle is very affected by her death. I don’t know her name but R.I.P
Very sad accidents!
@@diegalanpr my old boss was in that accident and lost his life. RIP Aaron!
@@lbc02gaming99 R.I.P Aaron
Stop paying tolls. Negligence. People do need to slow down. No shoulder. Lives losts. Awful
He also said the roads had not been treated for 2 days. Everyone knows come night time the roads refreeze so the city is completely liable for this entire tragedy.
@@RONJAE212003 as they should be
China owns the newest George Bush toll! Wrong on so many levels!
@@RONJAE212003 Maybe partially responsible, but people who don't have enough sense to maintain distance and drive carefully in freezing conditions bear most of the blame in my opinion. Like you said, if everyone knows night time roads refreeze, then why the heck don't they slow down?
Better Slow Roads, or No Roads, Arrive Alive
Road treated two days before? That’s it? Sounds like lawsuits coming.
@K Maxx Actually that's paid for with taxpayer money, so yes, the state does owe road treatment. Salt doesn't last two days. Somebody should have been out there the instant it started raining spreading new salt. Hourly.
I still think about that FedEx truck coming screaming down the road at full speed into the stopped vehicles......forget bad design and look at bad drivers.
That. Fed ex driver passed away I heard
I was there. He was sliding on ice!
@@tammymoore749 And he was going too fast to start with
His brakes probably locked up he couldn’t have slowed down if he wanted too
My prayers for everyone in this accident, especially for those who lost love ones. Such a sad moment especially in this pandemic ♥️
That highway is a poorly designed death trap.
@@bjp4410 NOT a construction site, nor barricades! The two inner lanes with narrow breakdown lane is a privatized express toll road common in a number of large cities.
They are talking about the crashes and in the background there are cars speeding everywhere. 😥
It’s a highway! Not a city side road.. do you go 45 miles per hour on a highway? No . In texas you go at least 55 mph and the roads at 65- 75 mph on the highway. If not, going too slow can cause even more accidents and traffic . You naturally go with speed of traffic.
@@kailaredwine
I drive 40 when the weather is bad with rain or ice.
People should learn to adapt to changes.....
Toll company needs to get out the check book and be ready law suits.
This is Texas bro... No one's liable for anything here.
Yeah, it's always someone else's fault. Not the people doing 80+ in icy conditions
@@UntiI117 You dont even know if they were actually speeding or they just couldnt stop. A lot of these people died, its not the right situation to assume like that
@@leena7961 They said majority of the drivers were going max speed, which was 75 and much too fast for this weather.
They didn’t treat the overpass the night before this happened.
Exactly two days before is not enough it will get all over the tires etc
Ya they straight up lien
The first thing I noticed was the amount of big rigs driving with motorists, surely their is a safer option. No wide shoulders for emergency stopping or emergency lanes [Designed for Emergency Vehicles Only Minutes save lives] Automated Speed signs these change the speed limit to reflect road conditions eg, Weather, Congestion, Accidents. These are monitored from a central control room also used by law enforcement when tracking criminals. Lead cars these are road vehicles that drive up and down busy major freeways to help slow the traffic down and can be used to push vehicles that break down of to the shoulder where break down crews can assist, this keeps the traffic flowing, people don't get out to push the car of the road putting lives at risk. Although this will not prevent all accidents it will reduce the severity and frequency in my opinion based on data where these practices/designs are in place.
This was a recipe foe disaster
There have been construction areas on highways for years around here and instead of making things better they make them more complicated which causes traffic and accidents this is just so sad
with weather like that, it should be salted/treated everyday
Continuous patrol by both police and maintenance is necessary in winter weather conditions this bad
Ok, guys come on if the roads had been treated well there may have been a three or four car accident but a hundred cars is proof the roads weren’t treated.
2 days earlier???? Ohh yeah someone getting sued, that is ridiculous they should had them roads worked on during the night
We don’t know about this, Texas hasn’t had this in a while.
This is so sad for those who were injured or killed. The private company should be held fully responsible for their neglect.
NO. THE DRIVERS were driving too fast IGNORING THE WARNINGS OF RAIN AND DROPPING TEMPERATURES!!!!
Another factor is 18 wheelers should not be allowed to drive in the Express lanes!!!
You have no idea what youre talking about. Your amazon packages are gonna take a bit longer so don't go whining on twitter!
I'm sorry, but I don't think that caused this tragedy, all lanes were involved. Speed was definitely a cause, and together with unexpected black ice and darkness, these poor people were doomed. It's like dumping a load of boulders or an avalanche down a hill, it isn't going to stop until it gets to the bottom.
Robots taking over them you think it’s gonna get better but a robot trucker won’t be able to stop either
maybe cars shouldnt be allowed on express lanes.
you know what?? maybe if they didnt predict ice on roadways...whats wrong with these weather people? dont they know ice is dangerous?
YOU ARE MISTAKEN
Ive lived in that area for years, most drivers do not slow down much in bad weather. Speed is definitely a factor.
Driving at 70 in close formation on icy or snow covered pavement!!
Possibly the road had just transitioned from wet to ice in a short time due to falling temperature
@@davidpowell3347 Well...it is possible. And I would try to blame it all on the weather if I wasn't a Native of Texas and didn't live around this particular area. And see most people on the daily still hitting speeds of 70+ on the freeway. Despite the many digital road signs that the city has put up, warning about the icy road and weather conditions. Major wrecks are weekly occurrence in this spot. This is the first time a pile up this big has ever happened. And yes, the ice played a part in making it as huge as it was. But...the design is horrible. And it's not only that, but the tailgating in this exact spot is a serious problem.
@@ashleyhanson1150 It would be a sort of nightmare to be driving on a crowded highway and to become aware that the traction is deteriorating due to rain beginning to freeze rapidly or the surface becoming coated with a layer of snow (that isn't as bad as the icing rain however partially because it is so much more obvious)
if you slow to a more prudent speed you still have the traffic rushing up -Road Rage!- and around or possibly hitting you from behind-the best thing would absolutely to get off of that thing as soon as an exit comes up if you get the chance--
actually if at all possible stay off the road,don't go to work if you can help it-even if the road is adequately salted the salt flies through the air as aerosol brine droplets going in to every crevice and cranny of your car and attacking the metal-and I believe salt aerosol going through your heater system is the main cause of cars developing leaking heater cores after a few years on the road,modern cars make it very hard to access and replace the heater cores in most cases (old cars was a simple job)
at least with snow the main danger is the other cars and trucks out there rather than the snow itself
Nobody knows the rules for driving on ice and snow, it's called go slow, don't put the blame on the truck driver who are driving too fast, I am a truck driver, my truck is governed to 65mph, when cars and pickups are going over 100 mph, all the time.
A lot of times, and I’ve this driven this highway everyday, aggressive driving, not counting speed with weather conditions. People lost their lives because of stupidity and not aware of road conditions. Sad
Major lawsuits coming, huge design flaws
What do we need to do to get rid of the tolls on the toll roads? I personally pay minimum $40-$80 in tolls in DFW monthly which (I think) is pretty standard for most people here that travel here. If they aren’t going to take care of the roads... where is this money going to??
The concrete walls of the express lane were holding rain water, metal grates in the lane are needed for drainage, 55 mph in dry conditions.
Makes sense!
Yes, those concrete walls are a big problem. I’ve driven south from Dallas towards Waco on hw 35 , it’s been in construction for years and has these same barriers. More than once during a heavy thunderstorm these concrete walls have prevented water to drain. They also have no shoulders or anywhere to pull over.
Living in TX, see these roads all the time.
" what we know"....
Slick roads.
Driving too fast.
Driving too close.
So never exit your vehicle on an icy bridge? Okay I'll stay in my car and I'll be crushed to death and die! Makes sense.
There was no way to escape! That was terrible. Thank you for the information. Tragic!!!
Basically when the roads look like they're wet!!, and you have freezing temperatures it's called BLACK ICE
SLOW DOWN
Exactly, it is the DESIGN of the EXPRESSWAY. It ignored the safety measurement and landscape of the road for all kinds of speed simulation and weather. My father is a Civil Engineer in Saudi Arabia for 30 years. He loves to talked about civil engineering design. And since I'm an IT, I can get a common sense for design perspective too. Unbelievable. The engineer who designed that expressway is really something. Politics? Deadlines? Lives are at stake even through a blueprint.
They should ban semi trucks on express lane.
They should make EVERY person applying for a drivers license ride in a semi for a day...see how many otherwise intelligent people cut in front of big trucks...and I am convinced they have NO idea what sort of machines they are messing with....what they can and can not do. At least make "driving around trucks" a part of the drivers ed curriculum.
liquid " de icer " must be applied at certain temps too, using the product when its too cold will form a layer of ice.
Oh no! These people are surely not equipped for this type of weather! It's terrible that these people had to endure this!
My thing is I am a truck driver and I know how a lot of these things work. Texas is not a place where it snows a lot or it gets ice all the time. When they said that they have some guys out there to treat the roads two days before but it wasn’t 20 to 30° below.. Then they said that they had some people out there to treat the roads before the accident that letting me know they did not have anyone out there. To treat the road it is a big cover-up so they won’t get sued
@@trayvonmonette8182 Salute yall truckers firstly and thank you for your job ! Yes i agree their is already a big cover up seems to me too. In all my days i do remember this is usually not the typical weather for the south, I am an Oregonian and we still have many folks out here who cant drive in even snow let alone ice, You be safe out there .
@@trayvonmonette8182 nailed it.👊
Texan living in South Dakota here.
The SDers up here can't drive on ice either.
I refuse to be out when it's questionable.
Right why wasn't the roads treated,we pay taxes.
I think you missed the part that said this road is manage by a private for profit corporation.
It’s managed by a company in SPAIN 🤬 The money we spend to avoid the traffic is making a foreigner in a foreign country rich.
@@cherylmcguire5699 hey, sounds like our voting machines too
90% of drivers dont drive with safe distance speed necesary to wet or icy roads that is the problem...
I hope the families and victims sue the toll road company, North Tarrant Express, out of existence. They f**king failed to do their job!!!!
Dont agree...these people shouldnt of been out icey FRIGID WEATHER SPEEDING....stay home...$$$not worth it...@least DONT SPEED IN COLD WEATHER...& tailgate...plus suing will not bring loved ones back.........
Everyone is so sue happy these days. My guess is there was some bozo at the front of all this that was driving stupidly that caused the initial accident.
As a Truck Driver, I firmly believe that the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration should MANDATE CB Radios in all commercial vehicles. This way drivers can pass on unsafe driving conditions.
some driver don't speak English im truck driver too and i see lot truck driver they don't understand English that's the problem too
Imma say it again. Ban Semi-trucks. Did we build the railroad for no reason??? No need for ten thousand pound trucks along civilians vehicles.
I don’t care about their purpose, as a Texan I know this mess started from a bad trucker who probably didn’t have a radio.
Dot tx and tarrant county should be held accountable for this situation on 35 w
No, the idiots that cant drive are responsible
Get rid of the toll roads!
I’m just upset at how we taxpayers get nailed the left and right we pay taxes OK we pay taxes and this ain’t sitting right with me
I totally agree with you, always say that this I35 road includes 2lanes tollways and 2lanes freeways, they are only collecting money from every way.
OLD POORLY DESIGNED for profit and not maintained = TRAGEDY
@@omahanb1 That's even worst! So it's poorly designed for MONEY then. Horrible. I hope that every single person involved sues. EVERY SINGLE ONE!
The worst brand new design!! And they keep increasing the tolls here too!
Last treatment was 2 days beforehand?? Rain and just people driving on it will thin it out and spray it off during that time! Treatments like that need to be done immediately prior to the storm and continue every few hours through the storm! Someone's got a lot to answer for now!
If that road was treated at all I would be really surprised we won't get the truth the state would be sued for everything
Don't pray, SLOW DOWN.
Do both!
That fedex was driving tooo fast , how could it not be aware of your surroundings.
All those red bright lites of vehicles.
There should be an app about Black ice. Just like Amber alerts
Yes the app
Should disable your car
So can stay home
Toll way is quick to charge you for driving on it.
Let's see how quick they pay out if it was their fault for the accident.
Salt or sand? There's a huge difference.
If either was used and had some effect on the roadway, this would have not been nearly as bad
Traffic bottle neck is almost all the way at that small area, bad design
got to find a solution before another deadly accident occurs
Not having shoulders on _EVERY HIGHWAY_ is ridiculous!!
This was so sad 😭 RIP to them that died🌸🌸 Reminds me of the final destination movie 😦
Real Life Shh. this is the MOST HIGH Work.
@@iriefarms1212 Duh I’m very spiritual and believe In YAH I was just sayin 😒💅🏽
@@user-kd8hq9wp3h Ms. Diva I Am in Full Agreement. Haha.
This not just in Texas it's every where people are driving at insane speeds! I live in Joplin and traveled on I44. The speed limit is being ignored by the police! The cars are driving at least eighty mph and still being passed by cars coming up from behind at
ninety. Trucks are doing eighty as well and all of this is bumper to bumper. It's like a NASCAR race! Need more police on the road!!
I smell a lawsuit to the company of the maintenance of the toll road and the state for not treating the road right
That’s right....WHY WASNT IT TREATED AND IF IT WASNT THEN WHY WAS THE ROAD OPEN TO TRAFFIC....IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED THE NIGHT IT WAS RAINING.....SO THE SCUMBAGS WHO DID NOT TREAT IT NEED TO BE SUED OUT OF EXISTENCE....
It was treated and it didnt rain the night before.
@@barefootbrains46290 What I hear is that it was treated 2 days earlier. Traffic had probably done away with whatever that was in 2 days.
I’ve been driving Interstate systems for 30+ years and always avoid these fly throughs because of this reason. I’ve seen the “Fatal funnel” several times over the years. I always give myself an exit strategy. This is just 😞 sad.
Yesterday I went off on the city/state......Oh Boy, safe to say after the lawsuits against the private company responsible.....they will obviously be out of business. Horrific situation.
The construction firm won’t be held responsible bc several state agencies have to approve designs, and there also may have been federal oversight of some sort.
Incredible salt the roads two days earlier that’s like me shovelling my driveway two days before a storm comes in Canada
Tolls should be outlawed. Want to help traffic, everyone use the added lanes. Why charge for something that was probably paid for by the taxpayers anyway
Better Slow Roads, or No Roads, Arrive Alive
They have been working on I35,820, etc. for years and years. They are working designs for the traffic in 2005 not considering the amount of cars out there now. It’s all bologna, the toll roads a waste. They should just have made 5 lanes of traffic....everywhere..TXDOT Fail...
Semis and cars shouldn’t be in that same lane it’s totally blocked in that’s insane ! Semis should be in a separate lane!,!!
my state have lane for trucks
Interstates were made to move freight. So I’m guessing you’ll be on the service road. Lol
Yes somebody was to cold and lazy to do the job
I say someone was in too much of a hurry to drive for conditions.
@@mountains889 They're not used to it is all. People from the Midwest can look at those conditions and know what's up immediately but people from the south not so much.
@@cfoster6804 i totally agree - just like people in Colorado aren't used to pouring rain, but most people drive slow in pouring rain (in Colorado) except texas
Toll ways are meant for profit open the toll ways and that will make less traffic and more safety
We have WAY too many of these tollways in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.
@@avalondreaming1433 baltiomore was unbearable... $20 in tolls just to get to and from work. made almost unpreventable. luckily it was a short stay for a project and be finished with that scam.
@@carfreak290 I know someone here who used to spend $200 a month in tolls. New meaning to the term highway robbery.
If the walls weren't there it would have been the whole freeway the walls confined it to those lines. The walls saved the other lines from a tragedy all at the same time.
have maintenance trucks on the road every day when weather is this bad every day before and after not what the excuse that oh well Texas weather changes frequently no!! have trucks on the road every day I don’t care no excuses
texas doesn't get snow and ice very often - drivers know when it ices up to stay home or go slow. No one has 4x4s, the whole city has relatively few snow plows and it makes sense. Do you think Hawaii should have maintenance trucks for snow as well?
Semis shouldn’t be in that lane with cars! Those people would be alive if it wasn’t for the semis . They need to separate cars and semis.
@@jonuran9750 why the heck not? Maybe cars shouldn't be on the road and let the professionals drive instead. If some car hadn't wrecked, none of this would've probably happened. thousands of other miles a cars being driven in the area without this size of problem. You just can't take a "once in a career incident" and change everything. Are you also for wearing a mask the rest of your life just because it could save one life?
@@thescramble4309 Texas is 4th lowest ranked for people buying 4 wheel drive vehicles. Only Florida, Louisiana, Arizona rank lower. About 15% of your vehicles are 4x4s. Colorado leads with 73%
Whether there are shoulders and exits or not, there was forewarning of the weather. I think most of the people involved weren’t doing anything wrong and anyone that knows how it is trying to stop and/or navigate a vehicle on ice, most people were victims.
What I find astounding is how much damage was done after the initial pileup. Clear visibility, known icy roads, clearly a massive amount of emergency vehicles already responding with lights flashing. People should’ve been going extremely slow in perfect weather let alone in icy conditions, instead of waiting to brake until it was too late.
Again, I don’t think most of the people were guilty of this. But the ones that were caused so much tragedy.
And NEVER stay in your car after a pileup. EVER. RUN.
So sad my prayers are for the families and friends
I never knew it got that cold in Texas. I'm from New York.
North Texas does, which Dallas/Fort Worth is in. The panhandle does too. Wichita Falls gets blizzards.
The roadway has always been elevated on this portion of 35W and never has there been an incident like this until now. There is a lot more that contributed to this that needs to be considered and investigated than just the road.
say what you want to say. flash freezing is unpreventable and a few cars will wreck regardless... then, you have no escape path if youre behind them. that is a flaw of the road. do i think some cell phones/speeding-semis/speeding-cars? absolutely. however, there seem to be factors that would have allowed this to be less tragic that lay on the feet of the people who built this road.
i put to much effort into this. the city/private company better have lawyers already working on this, because lawsuits are going to be inevitable...some of those big name truck lines are going to likely need some legal too.. i saw video of a fed ex truck that had to be going over the limit and smashed a line of cars. a lot of legal time is going to be spent on this for sure.
@@carfreak290 well said.....
What we know is freezing rain fell froze over roads and people crashed
1:14 operated by north TYRANT express, excuse me tarrant.
@Hang Tyrants 😄
Fauq Tarrant County!!!! I hate that place and there crooked govenrment
More travel lanes = more money
No money in sholders??? So Sad!
You wanted toll money so you put concrete barriers up surrounding the toll lanes...the crash was in the toll lanes, not the no toll lanes. Those vehicles within those toll lane concrete barriers had no "out"...no shoulder, no ditch, no nothing. You created the perfect storm...winter or summer. Picture summer, 100*, someone's car just stops in those toll lanes, no place to pull off...can anyone hear the multi chain pileup at 75mph because of that??? Should have closed those toll lanes both direction in bad weather and made everyone drive in the non toll SLOWER SPEED lanes... But hey, you collected toll from each and every one of them...right.
If the weather man or women say's ice/snow is coming our way like today or tomorrow. That should tell you to slow down and don't speed. If you don't have to drive in this weather than don't.
Report: Start raining at freezing temperatures.
Answer: copy, will dispatch a sand truck to spread material.
Report: 10-4.
I will dispatch a state troopers to warning traffic.
Answer: great , everything is going to be okay. We're in charge.
Atte: D.O.T.
Not only that but they should not let 18 wheelers drive on the express lane. It should be for cars and pickup trucks. I drive the express lane when I’m in Fort Worth when I drive for Uber. And let me tell you these trucks drive slow in the express lane, some people don’t even drive the speed limit always on a hurry or under the speed limit. No more 18 wheelers should be allowed at all.
Also look into why truckers are driving so fast in wintry weather? When they get into these pileups? They were speeding, and they can't stop in time as they slide into the wrecks killing so many people.
They have to push thier time for profit. 😒
Many many factors are to blame dude
Semis need to fill contracts in a timely fashion which is why they go at highway speeds even on ice, of course they are slowed down for the ice weight and speed hate each other. That’s kind of how ice works, plus they are most likely from south of Iowa so they don’t know how to properly deal with ice while staying at top speed (just get snow tires)
@@funnyyylock true that I'm with... a normal driver can see 3 miles ahead of you tell me why cars fly by us truck driver doing 80mph or faster in bad weather truck drivers aren't always the blame in accidents
Toll ways are 70 mph
The 1 st response team did Do a great job on helping these people and clean this up safely Great Job Ft Worth Team....❤🙏🇨🇱
People are going to drive fast to all the comments below about people slowing down I would bet not one of them obeys the typical 55 mile an hour speed limit faithfully. But how do you build a highway with no shoulder? That's just idiotic. You're just asking for trouble. To me that's the larger issue.
I used to live in Dallas and Fort Worth & let me tell you it's the people that move in from other states that get snow, they think they can drive the regular speed limit on the roads that look like they're wet when it is actually the black ice. And that's what causes these accidents.
It must be said... I lived in Texas for over 3 years. I’ve driven all over the United States and Texas has some of the most aggressive, rude and frightening drivers that I’ve experienced. They follow right up on other driver’s bumpers and cut people off ALL the time. They drive horrifically aggressive. They do not leave space between cars, especially in bad weather. They drive fast and inconsiderate. This is why there was a pile up... no distance to stop. They drive ver selfishly. The semi trucks are also dangerous that drive thru Texas and I witnessed many times truck drivers swerving on the highways in Texas and cutting cars off or driving up right on other’s bumpers. This disaster had a lot to do with the drivers!!!! Texas needs to require a driving manners course and driving safety to renew licenses in Texas. The overwhelming rude drivers and dangerous nature of driving in Texas was a major reason that I moved to Oklahoma!
I totally agree
I saw that coming i picked up a load there wednesday morning the mirrors on my truck and front end was covered in ice and people were blowing past me...I live in Texas...Texas people cant even drive in rain how are they going to drive on ice
No point tweeting and throwing blame, get those people out of there to the hospital. Save who you can save! Clean the place up then talk about whos guilty for what.