Suzuki Truck V6: Replace timing tensioner -Part 5 of 5

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  • @jimmynibblez8883
    @jimmynibblez8883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8 years on and still helping people, im balls deep at the moment doing this and re watched for a refresher

  • @mikerobinson8734
    @mikerobinson8734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the process of tackling this job right now. My wife’s xl7 has started to make this noise and your videos have me the confidence I needed. Thank you

  • @stevenoakes857
    @stevenoakes857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did this repair based on this video on a previous Suzuki I owned. Ran like a top. I bought a second 2002 XL7 and I gave the first truckster to my son in law who unfortunately wrecked it...long story.
    I'm about to do the tensioner on this new one but will be combining it with valve cover gasket replacement that means the whole intake manifold will be coming off.
    I would have never tried this repair had it not been for these videos. I think a lot of Suzis end up in the junk yard either but a jumped timing chain or a quote on a shop repair for this tensioner replacement.
    Thanks so much for the videos. I'll have them on a tablet while I'm turning wrenches. 👍

  • @zoidberg444
    @zoidberg444 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of your best video series to date, I'm a sucker for these long project videos.
    Nice to see a yank who can drive stick as well. First time I drove an automatic I was on holiday in the US, apparently almost no one drives manual there. I pull out of the hire place and my left foot found the brake pedal instead of the clutch and I stopped so hard I almost knocked myself out.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +zoidberg444 It's the Russian genes! Over in the Siberian wilderness most people don't know how to drive automatics...the old timers say they are for handicapped people and women HAHA :) But yeah I had a hard time finding this one...had to drive a couple hours to pick it up. Was the only stick-shift SUV left in the State of Pennsylvania!

  • @Roy-ov6xg
    @Roy-ov6xg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!! My Grand Vitara has 256000 miles on her and this will be the first time I've ever had to do anything to it, I bought her brand new. She needs a new water pump. I only change the oil about once every 18 months or so and I've never flushed the radiator. I've treated this vehicle like a red headed step child and she just keeps running. This is by far the best vehicle I've ever owned.

  • @regmiles
    @regmiles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't recall if I wrote to thank you for this series of videos. Because of your effort in creating this series of how-to repair videos, when our 2001 Suzuki XL-7 V6 started making that bad sound, caused by the timing chain tensioner going bad, I was able to repair it myself. We have an automatic transmission, so the process was a little different but also alike enough, that your videos greatly helped my efforts.
    I've read, in some of the repair forums, that this job should not be attempted by anyone who is not an expert. Because, even some experts can mess it up. Well, I'm no expert, at least not that I'm aware of. Hmmm, maybe I am. Since I managed to do what some pros could not. I figured, if I ended up messing this job up, I'd be no worse off. I'd still have to throw the vehicle away and get another ride. But I fixed it and it's been purring like a kitten ever since! So, thank you! THANK YOU!

  • @Baffi_
    @Baffi_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the videos buddy!
    I just did a complete timing chain job, and you had a ton of helpful info here for me.
    Lol and right as I was getting upset about how little space I had, you mentioned new cars and I remembered it wasn’t too bad working on this engine lol

  • @jakeandtheplot
    @jakeandtheplot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Highly informative and it was a great pleasure to watch the work etc. I will attempt this myself asap on an old automatic v6 with 180k miles on it

  • @grahamharder6511
    @grahamharder6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making the series, gonna tackle this job tomorrow and there are some good tips in these videos, thanks for documenting the process it definitely helps a guy figure out whats going on prior to taking on the job. The initial 14hr timeline is a bit intimidating but it doesn't seem like it would take that long to get it done.

  • @citizenenak
    @citizenenak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Just purchased a water pump replacement for my 2006 XL7 and was thinking it went near where the thermostat is housed. After realizing it was behind the timing cover I decided to find out as much as I could. This video helps alot. Hopefully it will go as smoothly as working on my 70 ford.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully...but don't count on it. The Suzuki V6 is kind of a pain to wrench on. I think you will appreciate your old Ford after this!

  • @corkyc6015
    @corkyc6015 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ivan, nice work and a very comprehensive video. I wish manufacturers would listen to techs and make components that will fail easily accessible! 13 - 14 hours labor is outrageous. You know the dealership would charge you book rate and the tech will take the shortcuts. Customer forks over $1600 in labor plus double retail cost for parts.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Corky C Yup that's how the system works...good thing I didn't have to take it to the dealer for this repair!!

  • @notsureigaf
    @notsureigaf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched the whole series, thanks! I had an '03 5-speed Grand Vitara for a couple of years, great little truck aside from a strange electrical problem that drove me nuts for weeks before I tracked it down. Got that car from a Russian guy in Brooklyn, his parents had Suzukis too.
    I was a little surprised to hear some rattle on the final hot start-up at 19:30, but in my experience, timing chains always make a bit of noise even when healthy. That's one of the arguments used by automakers who still build engines with timing belts, though personally I'd much rather have a noisier engine with a theoretically service-free chain vs a quieter engine that needs the front torn down every 60-100k.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "theoretically service-free" sounds good on paper. I would guess that at least half of all timing chain engines need some kind of timing chain service before 200k miles. I honestly don't mind timing belts, since they are quite easy to change, and are indeed very quiet in operation :)

  • @547Rick
    @547Rick 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! No runs, no drips and no errors!

  • @SteveRobReviews
    @SteveRobReviews 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I only wear shorts till October , man you had me wondering if Siberians wear shorts longer than Canadians Ha . Great series Ivan, I liked it for sure.

  • @tomgia1964
    @tomgia1964 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job bro thanks for the video I really needed the help I was scratching my head trying to figure out where all the oils coming from that's got to be the place where it's leaking and that's where the noises coming from you are the bomb

  • @leebarnes655
    @leebarnes655 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    My thoughts on the adjuster were that there wasn't really a fix done other than outright replacement. But now agree with assessment of worn plunger since the replacement did provide a fix after all. Then I get to thinking you need to drill out the dinky oil supply hole and re-use the old one next time the chain goes to rattling as a proof of concept. Might have to wait a while now though. I would have converted it to manual adjustment with pipe plug hole in case for access though too. That's an insane bit of work to replace just that do-hicky. Nice project overall and great savings in labor was realized proving the book can be wrong - I like that part.

  • @wysetech2000
    @wysetech2000 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched all parts in the series and before you started I was thinking you should just push it over the nearest cliff but with a little ingenuity, work and a minimum of expense you have a good running and quieter vehicle again. Excellent repair and video, Ivan.P.S. You didn't say how the fan clutch worked out.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +wysetech2000 Fan clutch is working better than ever! The real test will be climbing up a snowy mountain in 4x4 low-range with tire chains...last winter it overheated :)

    • @eddieallen8982
      @eddieallen8982 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      do what they do on roadkill...take the hood off lol.

  • @shayallday5935
    @shayallday5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your videos , I am in the same process but with some extra stuff replaced , valve lifters , water pump, oil pump, timing set, ect. Only got 91K on mine but I used to go 20K plus per oil change, maybe even 30K once without one.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow 20-30k on an oil change?!? That's abuse! Oil is cheaper than an engine rebuild ;)

  • @chuylee1842
    @chuylee1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. You are the only video available for this car. Awesome

  • @raymilligan9556
    @raymilligan9556 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    since the tensioner didn't seem to be worn in any way , maybe the noise was coming from the oil pump chain , it had allot of slack and you adjusted it out!

  • @upallnight888
    @upallnight888 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worse than missing pieces is having a couple of "Extra" pieces left over. LOL
    Great video, although I don't think I will ever buy a Suzuki. You should post a link to the video on the Suzuki forums.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Upallnight Done. www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-1999-2005-vitara-grand-vitara/15365-h25a-h27a-v-6-timing-chains.html

  • @esaker
    @esaker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ivan. Again, I own an '04 Grand Vitara and I suspect I have some of what you covered here in my future as I plan to drive this truck until the wheels fall off.

  • @randygudeahn7304
    @randygudeahn7304 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    EPIC series Ivan. thanks for using Craftsman tools. Job well done again.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Randy Gudeahn (ProTech) I've always been a fan of Craftsman tools, at least until they started making them in China...noticeable decline in quality, as with many other brands...

    • @randygudeahn7304
      @randygudeahn7304 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +motoYam82 someday, I'll tell you the reason for the China syndrome. At least you can walk in the store and still get it replaced. BTW, I wish I still had my XL7.

  • @Badgertronix
    @Badgertronix 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job Ivan. Hope it lasts many more years for you.

  • @megatonesilva6546
    @megatonesilva6546 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the crankshaft bolt......for those of you who have an automatic transmission in your Suzuki.....there is a small, rectangle shaped piece of plastic under the transmission bellhousing.
    You can see the flex plate teeth if you remove the plastic piece.
    You can heve a friend use a pry bar to bind the teeth to prevent the crankshaft from spinning as you tighten it's bolt.

    • @mikerobinson8734
      @mikerobinson8734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just used the starter. Works like a charm

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job Ivan

  • @VashthStampeede
    @VashthStampeede 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. The only thing that has me scratching my head is, if you wanted to see if the tensioner would eliminate the engine noise and wanted to start the engine with bare minimum hooked up, why did the thermostat and hoses go back on if you thought you might have to take it apart again? After all, there was no coolant in the radiator and just a little still in the engine that wasn't being disturbed by the water pump with no belt. I can see the radiator going back in to seal an oil cooler system.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +VashthStampeede Guess I was just that confident in the repair...wasn't planning on taking anything back apart lol :)

    • @VashthStampeede
      @VashthStampeede 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +motoYam82 I really enjoy your videos and always look forward to the next one. Thanks.

  • @stuzman52
    @stuzman52 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video series Ivan to help folks out there. Keep up the good work...

  • @antoniov4152
    @antoniov4152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent job

  • @zacharygardee4738
    @zacharygardee4738 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video I have the same car with this problem will be working on it this week sometime thank you for the help

  • @MrHyde-wv8wi
    @MrHyde-wv8wi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Helping me to work up the gumption to tackle my 1999 XL-7 V6 timing chain failure RR ..

  • @brentfourmeaux1954
    @brentfourmeaux1954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you please tell me the name or # of the download manual you used in the video. I need to do some work to my own 2000 Vitara.
    I would like to download the same one if it covers the whole vehicle.
    Thanks Brent

  • @billyr9840
    @billyr9840 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice series Ivan. No extra parts either ! Years ago I use to put the parts and nuts/bolts all in separate containers so I would no what went where, but after a while I developed this uncanny ability to know what came from where and what order to put them back! Now a days I usually just put what nuts/bolts I can in there original holes or with the parts that they came off of. Hey, did you tighten the clamp on the plastic air intake at the throttle body?

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Billy R I was wondering if someone was going to call me out on the clamp! Now that you mention it...maybe I should double check it :)

  • @akashtalon
    @akashtalon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice set of videos. Did the disappointing clack finally go away? And whered you get the extra gauges and howd you hook them up?

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Akash Chandrashekar Yup running smooth and quiet :) Oil psi gauge was from Advance Auto Parts; adapted the line right to the oil pressure switch.

    • @akashtalon
      @akashtalon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +motoYam82 Did you retain the stock one or had to tap in?

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      T-adapter

    • @akashtalon
      @akashtalon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +motoYam82 I'm assuming it's held up pretty good? if so, can you be so kind as to snap a pic of the one you used?

  • @zmanvideo1
    @zmanvideo1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this excellent video series!!! can you do an update on the XL-7? You mentioned the rattle is back again? :(

  • @fieldsofomagh
    @fieldsofomagh 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video for timing change renewal.

  • @harryharmer2476
    @harryharmer2476 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bud good video! I'm just about to take apart my wife's 2001 it's got 64,000 mi on it and it's got that annoying tick that at a hot idle sounds like a rattle ,probably the chain. Are you happy with just replacing the one tensioner or would you have replaced the others If you had to do it again? And is it still running smoothly without that ticking rattle?. Thank you very much Harry

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just replaced the primary chain at 200k miles...was a bit stretched. Definitely got better power going up hills now 😁 Mine always rattles anyways mostly on a hot start and idle...just the way it is 😅

    • @harryharmer2476
      @harryharmer2476 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics thank you for your reply I'm kind of leaning towards trying to get a more high volume oil pump and replacing the number one tensioner. With only 64,000 mi it's not making a lot of noise but when it's hot you can hear the clatter.

    • @Adamsmithv
      @Adamsmithv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics did you make a video of this?

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harryharmer2476 just try Rotella 5W40 oil 👍

    • @harryharmer2476
      @harryharmer2476 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yeah that's what I was thinking and I was going to do a seafoam idle for an hour then drain and try the rotella 5 wt 40.

  • @guillermogreen3295
    @guillermogreen3295 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, very well done and informative. Thank you very much!

  • @TexasPLNR
    @TexasPLNR 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Why does the tensioner have passages for oil to exit? Controlled bypass would reduce pressure exerted, particularly when oil is cold and avoid excess chain tension/wear.. May have simply been a design error that allowed too much oil bypass w/ lower viscosity hot oil. Perhaps new tensioner has a different design. thanks for video!

  • @jasonobrien9094
    @jasonobrien9094 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long did it take you from start to finish

  • @normansmith7806
    @normansmith7806 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series Ivan !

  • @regmiles
    @regmiles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, here I am five years later having to change the leaking water pump but I'm stuck. I can't seem to get that crank pulley bolt loose with 125 pounds of pressure on my air compressor. I have the automatic, not a standard transmission. So, I don't think that I can use that trick you used to loosen yours. I can't recall how many pounds I torqued it to while reassembling it. I'm wondering if you might have any additional how-to suggestions regarding this procedure.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@regmiles try putting a breaker bar on it against the frame rail then bump the starter 😉

    • @regmiles
      @regmiles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thank you! A couple of bumps and it loosened it. I wasn't sure that it would work on my automatic transmission but it did. Now to figure out how to remove the pulley.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@regmiles Spray the middle with WD-40, heat it with a propane torch a bit in the middle, tap with a rubber mallot, use 2 prybars to CAREFULLY pry against the timing cover.

    • @regmiles
      @regmiles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thank you once again for your reply. I tried to carefully pry it free with a couple of pry tools, after spraying with WD-40 and while I managed to get the pulley off, the edge of it was damaged in the process. I'll have to purchase a replacement.
      No worries. The money I saved doing this job myself has allowed me the funds to replace this part. I called several repair places to check what the cost would be to have them do the work and was quoted between $3,000-$5,000, far more than the vehicle is worth. So, it was worth it for me to do the work myself.
      I've removed all of the timing cover bolts and will have the water pump out tomorrow. Have you any recommendations for a good quality replacement pump? I'm willing to spend more money on a high quality replacement in the hope that it will last for more than five years. Thanks again, Reg

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@regmiles how many miles on your Suzuki? Mine is at 220k, still original pump. I would try my best to get an OEM replacement. Maybe PartSouq.com has it available?

  • @davidgoldberg
    @davidgoldberg 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice series Ivan! Thanks!

  • @drm315
    @drm315 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That squeaky clutch pedal would drive me nuts.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +drm315 It was like that from day one...and the mud bath didn't help either! Can't really hear it when you're driving tho

  • @davidhoppe6996
    @davidhoppe6996 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    By the way, what was the total estimated time it took you to do this. Not that it matters anymore, my wife's xl7 has the same problem, but we just decided to get a Toyota Highlander instead. But, I still have the Suzuki parked in the street, after watching your videos, am thinking of it being a project which might get more for a sale price if fixed.

  • @javiertoledo7432
    @javiertoledo7432 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy buenos vídeos gracias ,me sirvieron de mucho ,

  • @binnsh
    @binnsh 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re tensioner failure, does the engine have full oil pressure? I had an S-10 2.8 oil pump failure, engine failure soon after.

  • @amtyweb9283
    @amtyweb9283 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2002 XL-7, recently... can you share that repair manual pdf with me. I have an exact same model. I live in Aruba and not many people work on my Suzuki. looks like i have to do the repair and maintenance myself.

  • @charlesmiller5078
    @charlesmiller5078 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would of been nice to take apart the new one, and check clearances of the piston and bore, and maybe the spring, heck even the ball, something was out of spec. Go ahead and take it all apart and check...... :)
    You use way to expensive oil, it stays way to clean, you do to good of a job on maintenance. Try 20/60, diesel oil, and dump a can of STP in there for good measure, 30w dosent seem to be thick enough to cover the clearances of the tensioner. But hey its a Suzuki.....Built for long life and freedom from maintenance .
    Great Video........Now go make some money.

  • @toyotoe3732
    @toyotoe3732 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ivan, did u know that Scotty's Japanese cousin is Suzu ki(lmer)?

  • @E-Z_Gaming
    @E-Z_Gaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what was your total time spent on this?

  • @rubenslist
    @rubenslist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much!

  • @abochavez
    @abochavez 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems as though the noise was from the slack on the oil pump chain.

  • @collincapps63
    @collincapps63 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need help with my 07' suzuki xl7 timing chain!

  • @tajhealthnature8570
    @tajhealthnature8570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 thank you

  • @tomgia1964
    @tomgia1964 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked and subscribed👍

  • @Robert-vi6tb
    @Robert-vi6tb 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can just say what mine suzuki liana 1.6 2006 is bone dry, whith no oil leakage, also have a chain with no problems.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Robert jissbom I think this was Suzuki's first experiment with a V6 engine...it shows on the lack of easy serviceability. However they did a pretty good job considering otherwise the truck is very reliable!

  • @willemstreutgers1154
    @willemstreutgers1154 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ivan, a rattling oil tensioner can be caused by using oil with the wrong specs. Nowadays many owners use so called fuel saving oils, but one should obey the instructions of the manufactor of the engine. What counts is the shear stability and Viscosity at high temp and high shear rate I put a link and asume your car need an A3/B3 of A3/B4 spec oil Don't use w30 oil but stay with a w40 .www.tribolex.nl/external/acea2010.pdf

    • @willemstreutgers1154
      @willemstreutgers1154 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Willem Streutgers This is information for European car makers but you will find the same at API for the US.

  • @dawndishdetergent2171
    @dawndishdetergent2171 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    he filled the radiator with Arizona green tea ... im joking i know it was just in a bottle