Eventually! Geneviève Bujold as the first choice was pretty bland, if the leaked scenes on TH-cam are anything to go on. Kate Mulgrew may have been a bit of a cow to Jeri Ryan, but she was perfectly cast for Janeway
w41duvernay Rick Berman wanted Kate from the beginning but couldn’t convince Brandon Braga and Jeri Taylor to ditch Bujold in the start. Actually Jeri Ryan and Braga ganged up on Kate she didn’t want Voyager to be about the sexualisation of women she thought the fans were better than that and her comments got taken out of context.
What ticked off most fans of Voyager was that after 7 years of Chakotay and Janeway pining for each other, TPTB decided to pair him with Seven. They had zero in common and she was half his age. That coupling still pisses me off. End Game should have been about Voyager returning to Earth and J/C finally being free to pursue a relationship.
beawild nah I like that there wasn't and didn't have to be anything romantic between chakotay and janeway I think it would have spoiled it I didn't see any tension just a mutual admiration and close friendship there didn't have to be romance it was nice and perfect how it was. As for seven and chakotay it seemed rushed and stupid there was no need for it.
+beawild I'm a bit late here, but wanted to say: Janeway and Chakotay had a lot of chemistry, but expecting romance to happen simply because of this isn't a fair appraisal of relationships - and insulting to non-romantic relationships. I understand you, though: I too loved their moments in the early seasons. But honestly, this world needs more non-romantic relationships like the one they had. It needs chemistry between characters/actors to not always be about "do they like each other?" "when will they realise it?" or "how long do we have to wait until they start bumping uglies?". All these questions are fine enough on their own, but they are not the epitome of what makes characters worthwhile investing in. We NEED more amazing, kindred, *platonic* relationships between different genders in tv/movies, etc.
Jessus, why bring having a gay person into it, why the need for box ticking all the time? Its a tv program that people like to watch, there is no need to politicise it
It's easy to react that way. But one has to ask, if there was not that strain of thinking, would we have gotten Uhura on the bridge? That first on-screen kiss between Kirk and Uhura? Certainly one could cynically view that as a form of checkboxing social engineering in its own time. Would you oppose that? Anything that is not normalized at time can be viewed as checkboxing. The problem today is that there is a strain of Star Trek fans who are interested primarily in the social engineering aspect of Trek. This also has attracted writers to the series who are not fans first, but are agenda-driven first. They mistake artistic illustration of a human ideal as mere checkboxing that they can co-opt in order to exert social power, ignoring that all of that originally served the universe that is was dramatizing, and was not a means to any didactic ends. It was done to show an ideal future and required internal congruency. Of course, this "beating people over the head-ism" should be avoided. Sadly that is what the new shows have failed to avoid. It's true that Roddenberry knew what the reaction would be to certain things. And imagined they might be important. But how could he not? He was also in the world and saw things from both perspectives, from the world that is and the world he was creating. Merely having that awareness is no evidence of favouring checkboxing and social engineering in and of itself. And yet that is what people of a certain mentality cling to in Trek. Displaying a homosexual character in a position of leadership, where the homosexuality is normalized and treated as entirely natural and non-controversial would have been a boon to Voyager, especially it would have been a boon to a character who was free from modern tells and mannerisms, and who's storylines with regards to relationships were written to be genuine rather than saccharine or heavy-handed. No matter when something like that is done, it can always be viewed as politicization until the point it is fully normalized in the world that is. The correct way to do it is to make it an attribute that is incidental to the character and treated by the writers as entirely non-remarkable. But in order to do that, we first must be willing to approach a way of thinking that can easily be mistaken for checkboxing.
@@Radeo well, did we need a kiss between Kirk and Uhura or anybody? Star Trek is a science fiction tv series, why the need for any kissing? Lets take a step away from relationships...to a degree. Do we really need to know if a Star Trek character is gay? Does it have any bearing on leadership if the Captain is gay? What about having a captain who is a furrie or someone who likes to dress as a baby? Do you think their sexual preferences as captain should be shown? Where will end? I mean after all, if we are going to ensure all the boxes are ticked, should we have a captain whose sexual preference is bestiality or necrophilia? Why do we have to have their sexual preferences? Why can they not just be shown as people doing their job which is what Star Trek is all about? All this politicising is just ridiculous. People do not watch Star Trek for the heterosexual, gay, transvestite people, they watch it for the science fiction. Lets keep it that way. If people want to watch something about relationships, they can watch some soap opera.
@@cplcabs Romances occur on Star Trek. Romances occur period, because you're dealing with human beings who have emotions. Attempting to evade this is the attempt to not confront the issue. It's already established that ST has a variety of different plots and themes, romance is not a primary, but is among them. Kes-Neelix was an on-going inter-species one that rarely was put center stage, but existed and helped express ech character's value, motivations and flaws. Keiko and Miles O'Brien in an inter-racial marriage. That also was rarely a storyline itself, but they are portrayed as a "unit". Crusher and Picard had their history and overtures, which added to a subtext of understanding. Riker fell for anything that moved, human, alien, even that androgynous species where he basically romances a man. Would you have everyone presume that everyone else is straight when romances do occur? Why? Don't equate bestiality with homosexuality. Consenting adults sharing their feelings is far different than someone advertising their own mental disorders.
@@cplcabs I consider it EXTREMELY telling the fact that you think featuring gay people in any way in the media is inherently political AND that you compare homosexuality to kinks and fetishes. You are homophobic. Homosexuality is NOT like bestiality or necrophilia, homophobe. Homosexuality is between CONSENTING PEOPLE, and it shapes the way we see the world. It's not a dirty secret we should hide out of embarrassment, like you're heavily implying. And it's FUNNY to me that Star Trek can have all the heterosexual romance it wants and you don't complain, but the mention of adding a SINGLE gay captain and suddenly there's too much politics for you. Homophobe.
I swear I'm easy to talk to! I Didn't mean to sound like I spoke four languages! I just meant I spoke Russian and English fluent and was learning French and Spanish lol
I hated the end of both TNG an Voyager. It made no difference how good the episodes are. It was end of and era. TNG was the begging of the end and Voyager was the final end. Looking back at periods of time is like remembering people who have died. The 90s was a great decade to live in. A good mix of most everything, in my world anyway.
Love Kate Mulgrew. She's an amazing actress. Her portrayal of Janeway was perfect. And I love that she wished there had been an openly gay character on Voyager. Granted, now we know Seven is....but it would've been interesting to establish that on Voyager instead of Picard.
Seven on ST: P, that is not real cannon, and not real Star Trek! Remember, everything in new age Star Trek, Must, Contractually, be at Least 25% different, in comparison to original cannon! True Story! Original seven of nine, was, and ISSSSS, ComPletely heterosexual. (No bisexual side Whatsoever. VOY seven, and STP seven, is NOT the same. Will not argue!) Nothing wrong with that. People can prefer, what they prefer. Does not make them good Or bad. They just Are, who they Are!
@@RyanPerfect Uhm...no. Star Trek: Picard is not "contractually obligated" to be 25% different from the classic series. Neither is Discovery. Especially since Paramount and CBS re-merged last year. Soooo, not sure where you're getting that information from. And that's also a very poor explanation about how Seven from Voyager and Seven in Picard are two different characters...
This is typically Kate Mulgrew co-joining with questionairs on stage. I love how she sings out the answers in a light hearted way and pantomining her phases so they'll be deeply felt.
Dont get me wrong, if there was a gay leader I wouldnt care as long as the writers write a good story. With Discovery all the PC B.S was noticeable that it took away from the story. Like at the end when Seven and Chokotae got together i was like what. They made it awkward and a crappy side story to the show. The sad part Im a gay millennial and cant take this PC crap anymore.
As a gay women who has always love Star trek - tng, ds9 and voyager - I could not stand Discovery and Picard. So much was wrong with it, from the brutality and gore, to the brutalization of cannon, to all the woke propaganda, etc. I've had enough of it.
I didn't like the ending, but I agree with Kate on one thing.. I think Chakotay and Seve of Nine Hooking up was a bad Mistake. Janeway and Chakotay should have hooked up and consumated their deep friendship into a Sexual/Romantic Relationship. I think Seven of Nine should have hooked up with Harry Kim.. I think Seven of NIne and Harry Kim would have been a great Couple.
The last voyager episode was an anticlimax, they could have done so much with it. It should have been a movie or a three parter, it felt a bit rushed. Even dedicating half the season to their arrival into the alpha quadrant with one last alpha quadrant themed plot would not have been excessive! I'm not sure about this new star trek series coming out, i'd prefer a series about the stargazer featuring a younger picard or an enterprise b/c themed series perhaps a mini series. tbh though i'll take what i can get since it's been so long since we had a new series
USER10051987 we all wanted more but then it wouldn't have been voyager I have gone over this and I think it was perfect that it left the rest to our imagination. Yes seeing them land go to headquarters and be back on earth was something I wanted but apart from busting out through the Borg sphere I am now happy
You can tell that Kate Mulgrew really love talking to fans...many Trekkies don't like her Janeway character but you can't deny she is a fantastic person when she is with Star Trek fans.
I've never heard anyone say they don't like her Janeway character. I suppose I agree the way they wrote her as being a poor decisionmaker at times for plot purposes was frustrating. But the characterization (from the writers and Mrs Mulgrew) was excellent.
Years ago, I went to a friends house and her parents LOVED start trek. I never watched it from that one episode, 15 years later my new boyfriend sits me down to watch an episode of voyager, within a year we have rewatched voyager 7 times and we just can’t stop. I love Kate mulgrews acting, there is something that keeps me hooked, she’s able to bring a fresh feeling to every episode, even after 10 rewatches!
No it didn't. 😂😂😂 They should have had that earlier on in the season, a couple of episodes earlier. Fans wanted to see the aftermath of Voyager's return.
@@jaysmith6013 So many loose ends they could have wrapped up. But, TNG and DS9 were the same, they had non resolved stories. In DS9, what happened to Thomas Riker? What happened to Odo after he joined the GL? How long was the female shapeshifter going to be locked up for, since she lived a very long time!? What about Laas, did Odo infect him? So many storylines in that needed tidying up! 😊
Ending was horrible. Fans watched that show for 7yrs just to see them make it home. Reactions form characters getting home would've been nice. 15 minutes of closure would've been nice.
I miss Voayger. TNG always was the best ST-show ... but I loved Voayger because of the situation they're in. Voyager was visiting "strange new worlds" in every episode. While nothing beats a cast with Patrick Steward, Brent Spiner and Dwight Schultz ... Voayger was more mind-bending.
We actually don't need or want a gay leader the doc in Discovery is gay isn't that enough, why the need for token box ticking ? I find it annoying for star trek.
Uh dude, you probably missed Kate's body language but she actually didn't like that question. She commented 'we needed a gay leader' but you can tell she has scripted this multiple times at multiple conventions. And Geemonster is right, we don't need or want gay leaders in any Star Trek show. Ticking a box won't make a show any popular...in fact it'll alienate the fans like it did in Discovery.
Both women have let that go. Perhaps you can try also? Everyone makes mistakes, especially when we are in pain. It doesn't make us evil, just human. I am currently reading Kate's books and she is still a magnificent woman in my book.
@@robertstalnaker5728 Apologies, it was meant as a friendly suggestion, nothing more. Unfortunately the written word cannot convey inflexion and thus what was meant isn't always conveyed. Have a nice day.
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Voyager was a mix of good and bad but Kate Mulgrew made an awesome captain. She was perfectly cast.
Eventually! Geneviève Bujold as the first choice was pretty bland, if the leaked scenes on TH-cam are anything to go on. Kate Mulgrew may have been a bit of a cow to Jeri Ryan, but she was perfectly cast for Janeway
I can't see why the French Canadian actress was PICKED over her!
@w41duvernay - Well, Bujold was picked first, and when she bowed out, Kate Mulgrew came afterwords at the last minute.
CaptainPond actually it was the other way around Jeri Ryan and Braga bullies Kate
w41duvernay Rick Berman wanted Kate from the beginning but couldn’t convince Brandon Braga and Jeri Taylor to ditch Bujold in the start. Actually Jeri Ryan and Braga ganged up on Kate she didn’t want Voyager to be about the sexualisation of women she thought the fans were better than that and her comments got taken out of context.
What ticked off most fans of Voyager was that after 7 years of Chakotay and Janeway pining for each other, TPTB decided to pair him with Seven. They had zero in common and she was half his age. That coupling still pisses me off. End Game should have been about Voyager returning to Earth and J/C finally being free to pursue a relationship.
But Chakotay was sure farmboy building her a bathtub hah. Of course a real man would have made it big enough for two.
beawild nah I like that there wasn't and didn't have to be anything romantic between chakotay and janeway I think it would have spoiled it I didn't see any tension just a mutual admiration and close friendship there didn't have to be romance it was nice and perfect how it was. As for seven and chakotay it seemed rushed and stupid there was no need for it.
I can't remember caring either way about that.
But 7/9 needed him!!!! she seemed so lost in life!!! she needed a father figure in her..... LIFE!!! IN HER LIFE!!!!!
;-)
+beawild
I'm a bit late here, but wanted to say:
Janeway and Chakotay had a lot of chemistry, but expecting romance to happen simply because of this isn't a fair appraisal of relationships - and insulting to non-romantic relationships.
I understand you, though: I too loved their moments in the early seasons. But honestly, this world needs more non-romantic relationships like the one they had. It needs chemistry between characters/actors to not always be about "do they like each other?" "when will they realise it?" or "how long do we have to wait until they start bumping uglies?".
All these questions are fine enough on their own, but they are not the epitome of what makes characters worthwhile investing in.
We NEED more amazing, kindred, *platonic* relationships between different genders in tv/movies, etc.
BEST captain EVER!!!!! Wished I was part of her crew. Would board immediately!
These children are so intelligent and articulate I'm so happy we have them
I absolutely LOVE her!
Cool Woman, still a girl inside. Personality much lovely than the figure Janeway.. great Actor!
Well respectively your are wrong. Picard is number 4 and only because he proof x too
Jessus, why bring having a gay person into it, why the need for box ticking all the time? Its a tv program that people like to watch, there is no need to politicise it
It's easy to react that way.
But one has to ask, if there was not that strain of thinking, would we have gotten Uhura on the bridge? That first on-screen kiss between Kirk and Uhura? Certainly one could cynically view that as a form of checkboxing social engineering in its own time. Would you oppose that?
Anything that is not normalized at time can be viewed as checkboxing.
The problem today is that there is a strain of Star Trek fans who are interested primarily in the social engineering aspect of Trek. This also has attracted writers to the series who are not fans first, but are agenda-driven first. They mistake artistic illustration of a human ideal as mere checkboxing that they can co-opt in order to exert social power, ignoring that all of that originally served the universe that is was dramatizing, and was not a means to any didactic ends. It was done to show an ideal future and required internal congruency. Of course, this "beating people over the head-ism" should be avoided. Sadly that is what the new shows have failed to avoid.
It's true that Roddenberry knew what the reaction would be to certain things. And imagined they might be important. But how could he not? He was also in the world and saw things from both perspectives, from the world that is and the world he was creating. Merely having that awareness is no evidence of favouring checkboxing and social engineering in and of itself. And yet that is what people of a certain mentality cling to in Trek.
Displaying a homosexual character in a position of leadership, where the homosexuality is normalized and treated as entirely natural and non-controversial would have been a boon to Voyager, especially it would have been a boon to a character who was free from modern tells and mannerisms, and who's storylines with regards to relationships were written to be genuine rather than saccharine or heavy-handed.
No matter when something like that is done, it can always be viewed as politicization until the point it is fully normalized in the world that is. The correct way to do it is to make it an attribute that is incidental to the character and treated by the writers as entirely non-remarkable. But in order to do that, we first must be willing to approach a way of thinking that can easily be mistaken for checkboxing.
@@Radeo well, did we need a kiss between Kirk and Uhura or anybody? Star Trek is a science fiction tv series, why the need for any kissing?
Lets take a step away from relationships...to a degree. Do we really need to know if a Star Trek character is gay? Does it have any bearing on leadership if the Captain is gay? What about having a captain who is a furrie or someone who likes to dress as a baby? Do you think their sexual preferences as captain should be shown? Where will end? I mean after all, if we are going to ensure all the boxes are ticked, should we have a captain whose sexual preference is bestiality or necrophilia?
Why do we have to have their sexual preferences? Why can they not just be shown as people doing their job which is what Star Trek is all about? All this politicising is just ridiculous. People do not watch Star Trek for the heterosexual, gay, transvestite people, they watch it for the science fiction. Lets keep it that way. If people want to watch something about relationships, they can watch some soap opera.
@@cplcabs Romances occur on Star Trek. Romances occur period, because you're dealing with human beings who have emotions. Attempting to evade this is the attempt to not confront the issue.
It's already established that ST has a variety of different plots and themes, romance is not a primary, but is among them. Kes-Neelix was an on-going inter-species one that rarely was put center stage, but existed and helped express ech character's value, motivations and flaws. Keiko and Miles O'Brien in an inter-racial marriage. That also was rarely a storyline itself, but they are portrayed as a "unit". Crusher and Picard had their history and overtures, which added to a subtext of understanding. Riker fell for anything that moved, human, alien, even that androgynous species where he basically romances a man.
Would you have everyone presume that everyone else is straight when romances do occur? Why?
Don't equate bestiality with homosexuality. Consenting adults sharing their feelings is far different than someone advertising their own mental disorders.
@@cplcabs I consider it EXTREMELY telling the fact that you think featuring gay people in any way in the media is inherently political AND that you compare homosexuality to kinks and fetishes. You are homophobic. Homosexuality is NOT like bestiality or necrophilia, homophobe. Homosexuality is between CONSENTING PEOPLE, and it shapes the way we see the world. It's not a dirty secret we should hide out of embarrassment, like you're heavily implying. And it's FUNNY to me that Star Trek can have all the heterosexual romance it wants and you don't complain, but the mention of adding a SINGLE gay captain and suddenly there's too much politics for you. Homophobe.
Bravo Kate clearly the best Captain in Starfleet. Thanks for posting. Kate is so gracious with the fans you don't see that much in Hollywood.
I first saw Kate Mulgrew in 1996! She was just as great then and I remember her inviting a little disabled girl to the stage. Awesome!
Wonderful woman.
She gets more elated speaking to the relatable American person... It's difficult to follow a child who speaks three languages.
I swear I'm easy to talk to! I Didn't mean to sound like I spoke four languages! I just meant I spoke Russian and English fluent and was learning French and Spanish lol
i just realized janeway ordering coffee and picard ordering tea on the replicator was a thing
Kate mulgrew is awesome
I hated the end of both TNG an Voyager. It made no difference how good the episodes are. It was end of and era. TNG was the begging of the end and Voyager was the final end. Looking back at periods of time is like remembering people who have died. The 90s was a great decade to live in. A good mix of most everything, in my world anyway.
Both TNG and Voyager (and DS9 for that matter) had excellent final episodes. Enterprise, on the other hand...
Now we have Discovery and Picard lol!
And Strange New Worlds
@@angel102ify And Prodigy, and Lower Decks!
@@annalaskowska-colan And all these Star Treks are piles of shit. Pozdrawiam
This is such a pleasure to watch. They should get more questions from regular Trekkies.
Such an incredibly classy lady ❤️
Absolutely loved Janeway the Character and Kate Mulgrew the Actor
Love Kate Mulgrew. She's an amazing actress. Her portrayal of Janeway was perfect. And I love that she wished there had been an openly gay character on Voyager. Granted, now we know Seven is....but it would've been interesting to establish that on Voyager instead of Picard.
Seven on ST: P, that is not real cannon, and not real Star Trek! Remember, everything in new age Star Trek, Must, Contractually, be at Least 25% different, in comparison to original cannon! True Story! Original seven of nine, was, and ISSSSS, ComPletely heterosexual. (No bisexual side Whatsoever. VOY seven, and STP seven, is NOT the same. Will not argue!) Nothing wrong with that. People can prefer, what they prefer. Does not make them good Or bad. They just Are, who they Are!
@@RyanPerfect Uhm...no. Star Trek: Picard is not "contractually obligated" to be 25% different from the classic series. Neither is Discovery. Especially since Paramount and CBS re-merged last year. Soooo, not sure where you're getting that information from. And that's also a very poor explanation about how Seven from Voyager and Seven in Picard are two different characters...
I'm still waiting for a voyager M2 !
This is typically Kate Mulgrew co-joining with questionairs on stage. I love how she sings out the answers in a light hearted way and pantomining her phases so they'll be deeply felt.
Dont get me wrong, if there was a gay leader I wouldnt care as long as the writers write a good story. With Discovery all the PC B.S was noticeable that it took away from the story. Like at the end when Seven and Chokotae got together i was like what. They made it awkward and a crappy side story to the show. The sad part Im a gay millennial and cant take this PC crap anymore.
As a gay women who has always love Star trek - tng, ds9 and voyager - I could not stand Discovery and Picard. So much was wrong with it, from the brutality and gore, to the brutalization of cannon, to all the woke propaganda, etc. I've had enough of it.
Show was in serious need of an Epilogue episode.
Best Captain....with Sisko in 2nd
I wish I had a replicator. COFFEE! BLACK!
Get it yourself.
voyager... 10/10 would board again
I didn't like the ending, but I agree with Kate on one thing.. I think Chakotay and Seve of Nine Hooking up was a bad Mistake. Janeway and Chakotay should have hooked up and consumated their deep friendship into a Sexual/Romantic Relationship. I think Seven of Nine should have hooked up with Harry Kim.. I think Seven of NIne and Harry Kim would have been a great Couple.
Imagine a gay tuvok like indeed queen slay 👑 in his Vulcan deadpan voice
The last voyager episode was an anticlimax, they could have done so much with it. It should have been a movie or a three parter, it felt a bit rushed. Even dedicating half the season to their arrival into the alpha quadrant with one last alpha quadrant themed plot would not have been excessive! I'm not sure about this new star trek series coming out, i'd prefer a series about the stargazer featuring a younger picard or an enterprise b/c themed series perhaps a mini series. tbh though i'll take what i can get since it's been so long since we had a new series
we just need a voyager m2
USER10051987 we all wanted more but then it wouldn't have been voyager I have gone over this and I think it was perfect that it left the rest to our imagination. Yes seeing them land go to headquarters and be back on earth was something I wanted but apart from busting out through the Borg sphere I am now happy
You can tell that Kate Mulgrew really love talking to fans...many Trekkies don't like her Janeway character but you can't deny she is a fantastic person when she is with Star Trek fans.
There is a statue of Captain Janeway now.
I've never heard anyone say they don't like her Janeway character. I suppose I agree the way they wrote her as being a poor decisionmaker at times for plot purposes was frustrating. But the characterization (from the writers and Mrs Mulgrew) was excellent.
Kate is amazing
Years ago, I went to a friends house and her parents LOVED start trek. I never watched it from that one episode, 15 years later my new boyfriend sits me down to watch an episode of voyager, within a year we have rewatched voyager 7 times and we just can’t stop. I love Kate mulgrews acting, there is something that keeps me hooked, she’s able to bring a fresh feeling to every episode, even after 10 rewatches!
Voyager had an awesome ending
No it didn't. 😂😂😂
They should have had that earlier on in the season, a couple of episodes earlier. Fans wanted to see the aftermath of Voyager's return.
@@Locutus
that's what you have your imagination for. Voyager was about getting stranded in the Delta quadrant, they got home, so shows over
@@jaysmith6013 So many loose ends they could have wrapped up. But, TNG and DS9 were the same, they had non resolved stories. In DS9, what happened to Thomas Riker? What happened to Odo after he joined the GL? How long was the female shapeshifter going to be locked up for, since she lived a very long time!? What about Laas, did Odo infect him?
So many storylines in that needed tidying up! 😊
No it didn't i wanted to know what became of the crew after Voyager's return, it seemed a bit to hastily ended
Ending was horrible. Fans watched that show for 7yrs just to see them make it home. Reactions form characters getting home would've been nice. 15 minutes of closure would've been nice.
I wished there was an epilogue at the end of the final episode like battle star galactica or Batman beyond
Love her so much!😍
I love her Red hair, it suits her very well. And she is just the coolest person to meet.
Janeway looks like her evil self in Living Witness!
When they tried talking her into the role they said 3-5 years and she was interested.
I miss Voayger. TNG always was the best ST-show ... but I loved Voayger because of the situation they're in. Voyager was visiting "strange new worlds" in every episode. While nothing beats a cast with Patrick Steward, Brent Spiner and Dwight Schultz ... Voayger was more mind-bending.
Omg now I’m starting the whole series over to rewatch right now. What if the borg found a way to clone her and bring her back.
Love the enthusiastic "yeaaaah"
That ending still sucks, just felt wrong and rushed.
She's awesome
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4:24 'We needed a gay leader'. Someone's hoping for engage at new Netflix series?
We actually don't need or want a gay leader the doc in Discovery is gay isn't that enough, why the need for token box ticking ? I find it annoying for star trek.
Uh dude, you probably missed Kate's body language but she actually didn't like that question. She commented 'we needed a gay leader' but you can tell she has scripted this multiple times at multiple conventions. And Geemonster is right, we don't need or want gay leaders in any Star Trek show.
Ticking a box won't make a show any popular...in fact it'll alienate the fans like it did in Discovery.
1:26 but.. what?
but that she lives to tell the tale
Sad the only thing I associate with her now is her mistreatment of jerry Ryan 🥲
Both women have let that go. Perhaps you can try also? Everyone makes mistakes, especially when we are in pain. It doesn't make us evil, just human. I am currently reading Kate's books and she is still a magnificent woman in my book.
@@annebensler5841 perhaps you can stop assuming you can tell people what to do Karen
@@robertstalnaker5728 Apologies, it was meant as a friendly suggestion, nothing more. Unfortunately the written word cannot convey inflexion and thus what was meant isn't always conveyed. Have a nice day.
The ending was crap and shallow.