It looks just great! All you parts made over the past months coming together all in one day! I love cut off disks and use them for a variety of tasks in my shop. Keep up the good work folks!
Me and my buddy got together Sunday and was talking about your project. We both love watching you work things out, build it and adjust to the need. Truly old school, way to go. Now a days every stinking part would be sent out and labor hired out and it would be your phone builder boat builder. It is good to see someone is just as nuts as we are, if we can see it, we build it ...LOL. I like the Phone Builder Boat Builder...sounds like I know something...LOL.
When I think of how much work you still have left and how much enjoyment and inspiration I get from watching you guys solve problems and do stuff and realize how many more videos I will get to see I get even happier. Thanks for sharing.
You guys are awsome! I am a certified welder/ metal sculpture. fist off, your shows are so cool to watch. The fact that you have so much inspiration and determination in your family inspires us all. I love how you really go inch by inch, clearly explaning every move in detail. I have seen tons of welding/ building stuff on youtube, but you guys really are the best. Very fun to watch, and I have learned a thing or two, ok prob 5 things, from your very informitive videos. The welds look good, although, saying this a lil late in the game, with flux core you can never be to clean. A stick 6010 will burn through rust, paint, really anything and still get deep penetration. Gas sheided flux core like you got burns real hot, and therefore would prob burn through rust and stuff. The stength is amazing, but prob would prefer a clean base, compared to say stick welding, due to the penetrating factor. Either way, your building a (Noah's Ark) ! in your front yard, and Im shure that the welds will hold up, you have tested them ten times over lol. you guys are great and just want to wish you a merry Christmas, and happy sailing!
I love it, Doug grunts through the problems and Kay is all finesse. Great team, and very inspiring. I can't wait to meet you guys one day at sea. Till then I'll keep watching, and loving it, by the way congratz again on the next grand baby, another adventuress joins her gran. Awesome, and Aiden now has someone to teach as he learns.
Hilarious!!!! EXACTLY what I have been waiting for. Pleasure on the brain. You guys are absolutely cool. Thanks once again for sharing your adventure. May you be blessed with fabulous success. I am sending as much positive vibe your way as I can.
I'm not sure either, but we're planning on 6 set screws and roughing up the surface. The screws will not only prevent rotation but they should allow us to lock it in place and then pull the shaft so we can tape up both ends before filling it with epoxy.
nice work once again. I'm doing just the same thing on my boat right now! got to work on aligning the whole cutlass bearing, stuffing box and thrust bearing. I really must get round to doing more video. good luck
I have lost a lot of sleep, since I discovered your videos about a week ago... thanks a lot! I am now a junky (pun intended). Love watching and learning from your work, and improvisation in making tools, and accomplishing goals. I used to have pride in my projects, but now, you've made me feel soooo inadequate. :-) What a great family you have - Aden is quite the welder. Cheers!
Keith is the guy that would use heavier wall pipe and use his line boring rig to cut the thing to 2 thousands clearance. I'm the guy that will hack and weld and use glue and not give a 90 corner a second thought, and move on to the next task. ...but I love watching Keith do it right.
The inside of the skeg stays bare metal. A quart of diesel protects it until it's filled with engine coolant. The inside of the propeller tube will get painted later on. The cowl, or propeller shroud will be painted like the rest of the hull. The turbulence should not be an issue for epoxy.
Thanks for info and concern. Doug's the mech man :). He's checked out several forums, did his research and talked to people. But it never hurts to think about it some more.
Yeah, that's a good idea. We'll rough it up a bit before glueing it in. I'm thinking of using 3 set screws at each end to old the alignment, then pull the shaft, seal the ends with tape and fill the void round the bearing with 5 min epoxy.
A note on Marine tex also works good on setting bearings, don't forget a couple good dimpled set screws and bearing are regularly changed every two or three years, so if you can set bearings in release agent so the epoxy or tex holds to the wall instead of the bearing. just what was flipping through my head. ;{)-----
Yes, two big bearings at the top. Video will be up late tonight. We were thinking about 6 brass set screws. 3 at the front and 3 at the back, so we can lock in the alignment with the shaft in place, then pull the shaft, seal the ends and fill the void between the cutlass and the tube with epoxy.
Ha! She got me through college. I couldn't bare to ask any more from her. :) Let me try again. "If you can't do great work, then you can at least do inspiring work."
wow this is amazing! I just found your channel today and I have to go to work in 50 minutes but im determined to watch all of these because id love to build a boat when im not 18(you know?)
CV62 is conventional vessel 62. she had 8 1200 psi 986 degree boilers, 2 per engine room. we went through millions of gallons of dfm oil. we used so much so fast the hull tech's had to transfer tanks to keep the ship on even keel. she was sent to a scrap yard back in 1998 30.September good ship. 39 years of service bill clinton even came aboard, that was a long time after i was on though.
i have to say. building a boat is the least of my intrests. I am more into machines but 1 thing we deffinately have incommon is both enjoying building stuff. the satisfaction of completing a project is huge :p i hope one day you are gonna be able to sit on your boat floating on water and enjoying a nice cold beer :p
You'll be glad to know we're definitely thinking about doing just that. We are planning to do some casting at Tulsa's first Mini Maker Faire on September 28th.
we carried 3 of every bearing and packing gland for every main machinary room. there are 4 of the 1 main, 2 main, 3 main, 4 main. back to the story. 178,000,000 tons at 55 knots ordered to do a battle starboard turn makes a hell of a cavitation, we were bounced around like ping pong ball. not even a general quarters to warn us. i was in my rack after a 8 hour watch, just fell asleep. they did the turn and it bounced me out of my rack and onto the deck!
You want set screws, The epoxy will take up any difference in the two dia. between the shaft and stern tube. The set screws will hold it there, When we install cutlass bearings, the bearing set screws holes are drilled a little to create a dimple in the cutless so the set screws will sit in it. Depending on the bearing length multiply set screws are used. From what I can see on your boat no less than 4.
speaking of school buses you should cut the bus into a piece that would fit over that hole in four boat and the top would be done, just fasten it to the deck and seal it, then you would have windows that open, remove some seats and turn others around and put tables between them! just thing of all the work you would save! leave the windshield wipers on the front for rainy days. just paint it navy blue or what ever trips your trigger (IE.. makes your wife happy).
The other thing that concerns me is the ducted prop. I've seen it used on fishing boat so the net wouldn't get fouled. The problem is if any flotsam were hit, it will slide under the hull toward the prop and could jam in the tunnel. I hit stuff when sailing or motoring, what occurs is you first hear a thump then put the engine in neutral and wait until you see it at the stern then go again.
Cavitation - Bubbles the from the the tips of propeller blades cause the the sudden drop in pressure. When the bubbles collapse the create a strong shock wave that erodes the metal of the blade.
Sort of depend on out much we run the engine vs sailing, but I suspect we may change it out every 3 years or so. ...but that can actually be done between a few high tides. The big job will be pulling the rudder.
This may be petty but, I was thinking the tips of the blades should all be as close as possible in the angle and thickness. I would be worried about vibration, and we all know what damage that can cause. Thank great work love it.
I'm still waiting for you to cast that anchor winch. I wont sleep easy till I see it finished and I fully intend to emotionally blackmail you to get it done as soon as possible so I can view the results with my eyes causing pleasure in my brain.
Ha! Our engine is still sitting on it's school bus frame. We just cut the rest of the school bus away. We'll likely just lower it into place and weld some bracing between the school bus frame and the hull. :)
I wondered why you didn't test fit your finished propeller blades while setting the shroud. You have an amazing amount of ingenuity for someone who doesn't build boats for a living. I can't help but think the way you fixed your shroud is going to bite you in the butt later on. I had a friend build a boat and he had to push his stem a little to one side. It didn't seem to be a problem until he tried to steer. The boat always ran in a small right turn which he constantly had to adjust.
Good, descriptive video of what's going on. I use epoxy (Araldite) to hold everything together from the grand piano I rebuilt 40 years ago to the metal cellar door frames in our house, but I am surprised it will hold up in sea water. Is there a special compound used for that service?
I have seen Caissons lay for two years waiting for use, and they failed to brace them internally. When they put them in the River and poured the Concrete, they could not remove the Caissons because they had " Ovaled" over the course of time. I think your Caisson has Ovaled, did you consider measuring it?
In ship building they use Dogs & Wedges all the time as they work along a join of two plates they weld an 'L' shaped dog to the fixed plate and the leg hangs above the free plate and two wedges, one from either side, are driven under the leg to pull the free plate in. In the case of your skeg; the fixed plate would have a 'U' shaped Dog welded to it, then, the wedges would be driven between the free plate and the other leg of the 'U' dog which will pull the two plates together. I hope you understand that.., hahaha.
5 tons each is max for the gantries. And flatbeds are too high. We'll have a house mover jack it up put beams and dollies on for the 15 mile trip to the Tulsa Port of Catoosa.
Looking good you guys, lessons learned are sometimes a pain in the you know what... I was wondering about longevity of those bearings and what role the epoxy will play in maintenance and replacement someday in the future? Anyways looking great and looking forward to some more progress!
Is there a second bearing at the other end of the tube ? I think I would grind a flat on the outside of the cutlass bearing and then drill and tap the tube for a couple set screws. You might even think about welding in a stainless bung and use a stainless set screw. Or maybe 1/2" glass filled nylon bolt for a set screw ?
On the bright side, having a beefy blade tip should help prevent damage from crap getting between the blade and the shroud. Or maybe get stuff stuck worse, I dunno
It looks just great! All you parts made over the past months coming together all in one day! I love cut off disks and use them for a variety of tasks in my shop. Keep up the good work folks!
Me and my buddy got together Sunday and was talking about your project. We both love watching you work things out, build it and adjust to the need. Truly old school, way to go. Now a days every stinking part would be sent out and labor hired out and it would be your phone builder boat builder. It is good to see someone is just as nuts as we are, if we can see it, we build it ...LOL. I like the Phone Builder Boat Builder...sounds like I know something...LOL.
ROFL, now that was an outstanding moment. Doug's talking about trimming and Kay just whips out a sharpie like it's nothing. Love the natural teamwork.
When I think of how much work you still have left and how much enjoyment and inspiration I get from watching you guys solve problems and do stuff and realize how many more videos I will get to see I get even happier. Thanks for sharing.
wow.... you have put your life into this project.... watching all the old ones really makes me appreciate all the crew members more.
You guys are awsome! I am a certified welder/ metal sculpture. fist off, your shows are
so cool to watch. The fact that you have so much inspiration and determination in your family inspires us all. I love how you really go inch by inch, clearly explaning every move in detail. I have seen tons of welding/ building stuff on youtube, but you guys really are the best. Very fun to watch, and I have learned a thing or two, ok prob 5 things, from your very informitive videos. The welds look good, although, saying this a lil late in the game, with flux core you can never be to clean. A stick 6010 will burn through rust, paint, really anything and still get deep penetration. Gas sheided flux core like you got burns real hot, and therefore would prob burn through rust and stuff. The stength is amazing, but prob would prefer a clean base, compared to say stick welding, due to the penetrating factor. Either way, your building a (Noah's Ark) ! in your front yard, and Im shure that the welds will hold up, you have tested them ten times over lol. you guys are great and just want to wish you a merry Christmas, and happy sailing!
A titanic work made with love, sweat, effort and expertise; sincere congratulations!
I love it, Doug grunts through the problems and Kay is all finesse. Great team, and very inspiring. I can't wait to meet you guys one day at sea. Till then I'll keep watching, and loving it, by the way congratz again on the next grand baby, another adventuress joins her gran. Awesome, and Aiden now has someone to teach as he learns.
Hilarious!!!! EXACTLY what I have been waiting for. Pleasure on the brain. You guys are absolutely cool. Thanks once again for sharing your adventure. May you be blessed with fabulous success. I am sending as much positive vibe your way as I can.
Your vibe's have been received and are much appreciated. It's a good ride no matter what the destination.
I'm not sure either, but we're planning on 6 set screws and roughing up the surface. The screws will not only prevent rotation but they should allow us to lock it in place and then pull the shaft so we can tape up both ends before filling it with epoxy.
Always fun to see progress, regardless of the ups and downs. Keep it up, folks. I'm enjoying watching the process!
Much respect, that is one hell of a project.
Love your work and videos. Look forward to every one. Please keep em coming.
Thanks Bruce, and yes epoxy works great in sea water. Most all steel hulls are painted with it.
Love the videos you are in good hands with Keith Fenner I was going to send him a link. :)
Thanks for the thorough explanations...
nice work once again. I'm doing just the same thing on my boat right now! got to work on aligning the whole cutlass bearing, stuffing box and thrust bearing. I really must get round to doing more video.
good luck
I have lost a lot of sleep, since I discovered your videos about a week ago... thanks a lot! I am now a junky (pun intended). Love watching and learning from your work, and improvisation in making tools, and accomplishing goals. I used to have pride in my projects, but now, you've made me feel soooo inadequate. :-) What a great family you have - Aden is quite the welder. Cheers!
Just start posting your projects on TH-cam and folks will start giving you help and motivation and then you can take all the credit for it. :)
Genius true genius. Great job!
I think it's pretty cool your wife works with you on this project...awesome to watch it progressing like it is....a maiden voyage soon to partake.
We work a little almost every day, but weekends are when we get the most done. I have a day job so I can rest.
File to fit, paint to hide ;). Man, that is a PROJECT! Good luck.
Sounds more auto body specific ;-).
Love watching your videos!
Thank you! Appreciate the positive comments.
Keith is the guy that would use heavier wall pipe and use his line boring rig to cut the thing to 2 thousands clearance. I'm the guy that will hack and weld and use glue and not give a 90 corner a second thought, and move on to the next task. ...but I love watching Keith do it right.
Always look forward to your Videos. Another good one!
Today I needed to see success, thanks.
The inside of the skeg stays bare metal. A quart of diesel protects it until it's filled with engine coolant. The inside of the propeller tube will get painted later on. The cowl, or propeller shroud will be painted like the rest of the hull. The turbulence should not be an issue for epoxy.
Thanks for info and concern. Doug's the mech man :). He's checked out several forums, did his research and talked to people. But it never hurts to think about it some more.
Great work!!!You should be very proud of yourselves.....
Yeah, that's a good idea. We'll rough it up a bit before glueing it in. I'm thinking of using 3 set screws at each end to old the alignment, then pull the shaft, seal the ends with tape and fill the void round the bearing with 5 min epoxy.
Happy happy get to play with all the parts pieces can't wait
grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't looking good. wish I had the drive all you guys have
A note on Marine tex also works good on setting bearings, don't forget a couple good dimpled set screws and bearing are regularly changed every two or three years, so if you can set bearings in release agent so the epoxy or tex holds to the wall instead of the bearing. just what was flipping through my head. ;{)-----
I don't know why, but reading that plan literally made me laugh out loud. Great Idea.
You folks are inspiring!
Thanks Keith. I had not considered pulling the bearing and leaving the epoxy.
Your prop set up is great.
It's really coming along! Great job
Thanks! We're looking forward to that day too.
Thanks! Glad you've enjoyed watching them. :)
Yes, two big bearings at the top. Video will be up late tonight. We were thinking about 6 brass set screws. 3 at the front and 3 at the back, so we can lock in the alignment with the shaft in place, then pull the shaft, seal the ends and fill the void between the cutlass and the tube with epoxy.
We are most definitely going to put that idea high on the list. :)
Glad you found us!
What a beautiful ship Skipper.
I'll say one thing is for sure...You got a good Woman.
I have one too : )
We'll have sails on the boat too. ...and yeah, I'm a big fan of never-seize.
I think they came out quite nicely, too.
luv your work
Your talents Sir are mind-blowing. As always, nice work, what a beauty.
Thank you, Fred!
Ha! She got me through college. I couldn't bare to ask any more from her. :) Let me try again.
"If you can't do great work, then you can at least do inspiring work."
looking really good, keep up the good work!!
wow this is amazing! I just found your channel today and I have to go to work in 50 minutes but im determined to watch all of these because id love to build a boat when im not 18(you know?)
Wow, that looks nice .
Those blades are sweet.
CV62 is conventional vessel 62. she had 8 1200 psi 986 degree boilers, 2 per engine room. we went through millions of gallons of dfm oil. we used so much so fast the hull tech's had to transfer tanks to keep the ship on even keel. she was sent to a scrap yard back in 1998 30.September good ship. 39 years of service bill clinton even came aboard, that was a long time after i was on though.
The Hundested variable pitch propeller, control box has thrust bearings build in.
In time sand will round & smooth off the edges , Looking good .
i have to say. building a boat is the least of my intrests. I am more into machines but 1 thing we deffinately have incommon is both enjoying building stuff. the satisfaction of completing a project is huge :p i hope one day you are gonna be able to sit on your boat floating on water and enjoying a nice cold beer :p
love the new t shirts!! :D
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them. :)
You'll be glad to know we're definitely thinking about doing just that. We are planning to do some casting at Tulsa's first Mini Maker Faire on September 28th.
Чувак, ты крут!!
И жена у тебя отличный помошник!
Looking good guys. Well done.
Thanks, Elio.
Maybe next Spring. When we are ready to install the engine bed. But it will only be installed for the fit up and then pulled out.
we carried 3 of every bearing and packing gland for every main machinary room. there are 4 of the 1 main, 2 main, 3 main, 4 main. back to the story. 178,000,000 tons at 55 knots ordered to do a battle starboard turn makes a hell of a cavitation, we were bounced around like ping pong ball. not even a general quarters to warn us. i was in my rack after a 8 hour watch, just fell asleep. they did the turn and it bounced me out of my rack and onto the deck!
If you guys keep this up your going to have a boat soon !
You want set screws, The epoxy will take up any difference in the two dia. between the shaft and stern tube. The set screws will hold it there, When we install cutlass bearings, the bearing set screws holes are drilled a little to create a dimple in the cutless so the set screws will sit in it. Depending on the bearing length multiply set screws are used. From what I can see on your boat no less than 4.
So impressive! :)
Thank you! It's one of our new "things". We're going to make T shirts that inspire us with the build.:)
speaking of school buses you should cut the bus into a piece that would fit over that hole in four boat and the top would be done, just fasten it to the deck and seal it, then you would have windows that open, remove some seats and turn others around and put tables between them! just thing of all the work you would save! leave the windshield wipers on the front for rainy days. just paint it navy blue or what ever trips your trigger (IE.. makes your wife happy).
The other thing that concerns me is the ducted prop. I've seen it used on fishing boat so the net wouldn't get fouled. The problem is if any flotsam were hit, it will slide under the hull toward the prop and could jam in the tunnel. I hit stuff when sailing or motoring, what occurs is you first hear a thump then put the engine in neutral and wait until you see it at the stern then go again.
prop looks nice
Cavitation - Bubbles the from the the tips of propeller blades cause the the sudden drop in pressure. When the bubbles collapse the create a strong shock wave that erodes the metal of the blade.
Sort of depend on out much we run the engine vs sailing, but I suspect we may change it out every 3 years or so. ...but that can actually be done between a few high tides. The big job will be pulling the rudder.
This may be petty but, I was thinking the tips of the blades should all be as close as possible in the angle and thickness. I would be worried about vibration, and we all know what damage that can cause. Thank great work love it.
I used to be a teacher. One should always have a writing instrument available. :)
I don't know if that's petty or not, but I'll put my best grinder on it, and we'll see what happens in a few years when we put it in the water.
She is correct ! That is pretty !!
Missed it by THAT much.
WOW! With a carbon footprint like that you are surely doomed to some version of hippie hell.
I love watching this build, I was just wondering if your neighbors call you Noah.
Howdy Dan. Yeah, get your video camera running. I'm still trying to decide how to connect the yoke to the rudder post.
next to him real women hats off to you both
I'm still waiting for you to cast that anchor winch. I wont sleep easy till I see it finished and I fully intend to emotionally blackmail you to get it done as soon as possible so I can view the results with my eyes causing pleasure in my brain.
Ha! Our engine is still sitting on it's school bus frame. We just cut the rest of the school bus away. We'll likely just lower it into place and weld some bracing between the school bus frame and the hull. :)
I wondered why you didn't test fit your finished propeller blades while setting the shroud. You have an amazing amount of ingenuity for someone who doesn't build boats for a living. I can't help but think the way you fixed your shroud is going to bite you in the butt later on. I had a friend build a boat and he had to push his stem a little to one side. It didn't seem to be a problem until he tried to steer. The boat always ran in a small right turn which he constantly had to adjust.
Good, descriptive video of what's going on. I use epoxy (Araldite) to hold everything together from the grand piano I rebuilt 40 years ago to the metal cellar door frames in our house, but I am surprised it will hold up in sea water. Is there a special compound used for that service?
I have seen Caissons lay for two years waiting for use, and they failed to brace them internally. When they put them in the River and poured the Concrete, they could not remove the Caissons because they had " Ovaled" over the course of time. I think your Caisson has Ovaled, did you consider measuring it?
In ship building they use Dogs & Wedges all the time as they work along a join of two plates they weld an 'L' shaped dog to the fixed plate and the leg hangs above the free plate and two wedges, one from either side, are driven under the leg to pull the free plate in. In the case of your skeg; the fixed plate would have a 'U' shaped Dog welded to it, then, the wedges would be driven between the free plate and the other leg of the 'U' dog which will pull the two plates together. I hope you understand that.., hahaha.
We like to refer to it as an "organic" process. We really don't know how something is going to be done until, until it's, well, done. :)
Workmanship expectations are in tack! cheers, Great video, That would of bugged me too!
;{)-----
5 tons each is max for the gantries. And flatbeds are too high. We'll have a house mover jack it up put beams and dollies on for the 15 mile trip to the Tulsa Port of Catoosa.
If you can't good great work, then you can at least to inspiring work.
Looking good you guys, lessons learned are sometimes a pain in the you know what... I was wondering about longevity of those bearings and what role the epoxy will play in maintenance and replacement someday in the future? Anyways looking great and looking forward to some more progress!
Is there a second bearing at the other end of the tube ?
I think I would grind a flat on the outside of the cutlass bearing and then drill and tap the tube for a couple set screws. You might even think about welding in a stainless bung and use a stainless set screw. Or maybe 1/2" glass filled nylon bolt for a set screw ?
On the bright side, having a beefy blade tip should help prevent damage from crap getting between the blade and the shroud. Or maybe get stuff stuck worse, I dunno
Well, that makes good sense
Could you sleeve the cutlass bearing with something like a piston liner so that is a better fit?