NEW Roland FANTOM-EX: Your Ultimate Workstation, Now Upgraded!

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  • @zoomzoom3950
    @zoomzoom3950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    My new Fantom-EX-6 is scheduled to be delivered 1-May!

  • @christopherspencer7910
    @christopherspencer7910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think this Roland EX as well as the former Flagship is a beast no matter how you slice it, any instrument purchased will never be perfect, its the musician that make or break it

  • @Bashanvibe
    @Bashanvibe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now I need to download the expansion for my Fantom

  • @Keyboardnut99
    @Keyboardnut99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Great board I have the upgraded original give me a sticker Roland !

  • @Rightly_Divided
    @Rightly_Divided 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    wait so by upgrading to EX on my current Fantom, the value of my unit is now worth more?

  • @Dombevi
    @Dombevi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is there some sounds of very old drum machine, and juno series synth like the juno 60 and 106, JX3-P, JX8P, alpha juno ?

  • @collinausbury
    @collinausbury 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love seeing v-piano in these synths. makes it a very compelling buy

  • @yamahamotifxs
    @yamahamotifxs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't see much point in this Fantom EX. I currently have a Fantom 7 which already includes the EX update. As a user, I unfortunately had to state that many things are missing in Fantom. I'm convinced by Virtual Analog (Model Expansions) and ACB, but still no multi-channel arpeggios and no way to create your own arpeggios. I've rarely run out of polyphony, but that's a real problem. The sequencer would be good, but it would have been better if not only 64 measures, but at least 256, even in Montage. This would also allow importing a MIDI file without having to load it into 64 Measures divisions. The other thing is that the Time Signature cannot be changed until I set the tempo of the song. If I want to switch from 4/4 to 3/4 in the song, the sequencer won't allow it in the next Pattern. Inactive. It is not possible to change the tempo of the songs during recording. One or two things can be implemented in the Piano Roll, for example reducing or increasing the volume, but it can only be modified for one note. If I want to speed up or slow down a song, I want to set it to every MIDI track. This is obviously a basic thing in a Linear Sequencer. I haven't tried it with Montage, but I think the Super Knob can slow down and speed up a complete song manually with the Super Knob. Split into four Partials, the Zen-Core VA is a polyphony killer. It is not good that the PCM and VA sections are part of a Zen-Core system. The PCM Waveform and VA engine would have been better regardless, because polyphony will always be insufficient. The 256 polyphonic thing is just a dream. Roland did not disclose the real facts. If you're thinking about polyphony, you're not wondering how 4 Partial reduces polyphony more and more when you use more voices in a song. The Fantom would be a great instrument if they hadn't taken away basic things that should have been included.

  • @Khordmaster
    @Khordmaster 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm interested in knowing if there have been any changes to the pattern / song mode sequencer? Namely being able to copy and paste clips / rows of clips faster?

  • @dantewing9723
    @dantewing9723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will the Expansion Libaries from Roland Axial work for Roland Fantom-EX?

  • @jtdiffen
    @jtdiffen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sure would be nice if you let us know which patches you were demoing. ?????

  • @Bruce.-Wayne
    @Bruce.-Wayne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful...Just got the news of this Upgrade....

  • @Rondo00777
    @Rondo00777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can anybody help me. Is Roland Fantom 7 EX and Roland Integra-7 sound module duplicative with sounds? Is a big difference or too many sounds is actually the same? Thanks!

    • @balisaani
      @balisaani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intergra is all the 20th century Roland sounds (all the XV5080 and add on cards) with new circuitry and some (unclear if all). the S-760 (and predecessors) stock library. It's a pretty awesome proposition if you've not got (like me) a fully stocked XV-5080 and 4 x S760s with the entire Roland sample library. In my 20 years of owning it though, I don't think I've gone through all the sounds, and if I did, certainly not twice. So the Integra is a fantastic proposition - all those sounds were sampled masterfully and sound great as is (pretty much) in a mix (live or studio). Or you could buy a lapop and an interface and Omnisphere and deal with menus and so on on stage, or get a new Fantom 7 EX and get the top of the line Zen Core and Supernatural engines and see if those sound better to you - up to you.

  • @PeriandroWipf
    @PeriandroWipf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

  • @MJamesIII
    @MJamesIII 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did they address the after touch issues in the new models?

    • @aalamood
      @aalamood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      also did they address the polyphony issue, and increase the power of the remain 15 channel, on the current Fantom you can use only channel 1 for ACB and vPiano

    • @tonylancer7367
      @tonylancer7367 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, same keyboard feel with "additional sounds" added. 😥

  • @VegersonLaurido
    @VegersonLaurido 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the Fantom 8 and updated Ex 1.00 on Roland Cloud. I would like to know if I can update to version 1.01 EX.

  • @ronborkent
    @ronborkent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So.... the only thing new is that you do not have to endure the horrendous update procedure? No beefed up processor, no more memory, no better polyphony handling ? In all fairness... it's not as bad as Korg trying to sell you a downgrade as the new flagship and then just for fun make you pay a stupid surcharge (520 euro) for the same version but with aftertouch. Oops.. I take that back....a Fantom 6 costs 3066 euro plus the do it yourself upgrade of 200 euro is 3266 euros. The fantom EX is listed at Bax for 4199 euro's....what do I get for the remaining 933 euros difference?

    • @freenfinity
      @freenfinity 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am surprised as well, I think accorideng to Roland Manager, you get all the soundpacks, because, there are almost none to install from Roland Cloud for Fantom Ex, so I guess, they all will be there already..

    • @ronborkent
      @ronborkent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      900 euro in sound packs....???

    • @freenfinity
      @freenfinity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronborkent Actually yes. I counted all paid soundpacks for Fantom and it is 844 eur together + 199 eur Ex upgrade and we are almost in same ball park as new EX. So it is like + - 50euros for that sticker, anything else price wise is fortunately the same..

    • @freenfinity
      @freenfinity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronborkent Yes, its 844 for all the soundpacks for the Fantom in Roland Manager + 199 Ex upgrade

  • @garyclement2888
    @garyclement2888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I have the Fantom 7, and I want the EX sounds, what is the price to purchase? Looking on the website, I can't find a price in the United States?

    • @aalamood
      @aalamood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it is 200$, I think they gives discount in case you have enzyme or JD800 expansion

    • @roland_aus
      @roland_aus  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, thank you for your question :) The upgrade is available through Roland Cloud, you'll be able to see the price in your local currency via the app.

  • @leomarrero
    @leomarrero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, i have a Fantom 08, how could I update it?

  • @oltep
    @oltep 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So aftertouch actually works now?

    • @01blaval
      @01blaval 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they fixed it👍🏼

    • @FeatherGlow1
      @FeatherGlow1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@01blaval But would that fixed in the Fantom EX upgrade as well as the hardware version of the EX?

    • @01blaval
      @01blaval 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FeatherGlow1 That’s what I heard

  • @EdDiazKeys
    @EdDiazKeys 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent!!!!

  • @AR-px9cj
    @AR-px9cj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, as usual...
    I would like to ask you something: I have a Roland Fantom 7 with operating system 3.0 and I want to upgrade to the EX expansion... Can someone tell me if I can go directly from a 3.0 system to the -EX system directly or do I have to first: install version 3.2 of the fantom system 7 to then, install the EX expansion? Thank you in advance, because the Roland people have given me a thousand thoughts and answer everything!! Except what I ask them, it must be that my English is not very good! Greetings from Spain!

    • @davidknight754
      @davidknight754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just upgrade.. it turns it into EX 1.0

    • @AR-px9cj
      @AR-px9cj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really sure? I'm frightened 😅, it turns on Ex 1.01 directly from 3.0,... isn't it? Thanks for you time! 😊

  • @karlhaese7183
    @karlhaese7183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actly what pisses me off about my F06. There's no way to assign the pitch bender or modulation wheel to move 2semitones up or down.

  • @FeatherGlow1
    @FeatherGlow1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried to get the EX upgrade for my Fantom but it needs the Roland Cloud Manager to download it, and that in turn will not work with Windows 7. Can't imagine what feature is missing from Windows 7 that the Roland Cloud Manager required. So I'm stuck with my Fantom not able to get the EX upgrade. I'm not impressed with Roland anymore.

    • @FeatherGlow1
      @FeatherGlow1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @KingzofSwing Yes. But i have now managed to download the EX upgrade using a Windows 11 laptop that I have just bought. So I should be able to upgrade my Fantom to EX. :)

    • @balisaani
      @balisaani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problems with Mac here - feel sorry for you mate.

    • @zmaninpgh
      @zmaninpgh หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you still running Windows 7 when you invested all of the money in a fancy keyboard… you would think you would have the money to upgrade windows…

    • @FeatherGlow1
      @FeatherGlow1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zmaninpgh Partly because I have lots of software that won't run on later versions of Windows, and partly because it's a hassle reinstalling everything on a new operating system, and finally, because I just don't like the interface of the later versions. But I realise I will have to upgrade one day. I'll do that when I have no choice. I downloaded the EX upgrade onto my laptop (which is Windows 11) and then transferred the files over to my trusty old Windows 7 computer.

  • @digitors
    @digitors 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I update my FA08 to this firmware? How much?

    • @bulletheadbeatz2296
      @bulletheadbeatz2296 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's only for the flagship models

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This arranger is amazing!

    • @ToRFlow
      @ToRFlow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a synth workstation, not an arranger

  • @SunlightOfTheSpirit
    @SunlightOfTheSpirit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This isn’t a classic workstation as mentioned here so beware. There is only one reverb available at any one time so the drums, piano all synths everything share the same space which I’ve found very limiting. The sequencer really is a passion killer and the whole system is geared towards putting most of your effects on in a DAW. MPC is infinite miles ahead in terms of automation and sequencing options and onboard processing. There are only two send effects to be used at any one time plus a single reverb or chorus plus one insert effect so most things that you would shape sound in a DAW are missing. Did I mention only one reverb to use at any given time? If you like one word condescending answers on the Roland Fantom user page, then this is your synth. Many have lived to regret it and not all that glitters……………

  • @drummer5015
    @drummer5015 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this suitable for live performance, or just a workstation?

    • @flippercool1988
      @flippercool1988 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Más para estudio que para en vivo, para en vivo te recomiendo montage o Kronos/Nautilus

    • @lucn6173
      @lucn6173 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bought one (sold it some years later), I wanted this machine for live performance but it is way to heavy to transport and it was not suitable for my type of music (electro)

  • @jjhcw
    @jjhcw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Love it!!

  • @BEASTBEATS700
    @BEASTBEATS700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this workstation has any type of mode to play in key scale? Can u tune your 3rd party 808s?

    • @djkanyon
      @djkanyon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it can, i've seen older models with scale function. You know when the guy only plays on a white keys (C major\A minor) and he obviously played in F sharp major which includes a lot of sharps\black keys

  • @djkanyon
    @djkanyon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had Roland CLoud and JD-800 and it NOT sounded THAT good. Why? Is it Fantom hardware (dsps, filters etc) or i just carried away by the look of new version of the favourite gear?

  • @SloBloLabs
    @SloBloLabs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    C’mon guys, now get your non EX Fantom really fast and save some coins!

  • @FugaziSB
    @FugaziSB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When they show you an animation of the piano lid, you know that it isn't worth the money .
    It's like when they sell a car because the touch screen is bigger...
    Did you make the sequencer better?
    No. But hey, did you check that piano lid going up and down!!

    • @supersoundset
      @supersoundset 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed that the piano lid animation is virtually a meaningless gimmick. The rest however is a great expansion in my opinion and I'm upgrading.

    • @FugaziSB
      @FugaziSB 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @supersoundset
      I think Fantom is a scam, a premature flashy keyboard rushed to market with nothing really new which is why it came with Roland 90's sounds, I think there not one single sample in Fantom.
      What really pisses me off is that even as a platform it sucks because the new engines can only run one at a time, you have a great organ simulation, but you cannot use it with one of the new synths engines at same time, seriously!!??? Roland, do you know what year it is??!! My cellphone can do better multi tasking than this huge paper weight.
      I really regret buying this keyboard.

  • @simonjonasmusic8410
    @simonjonasmusic8410 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did the Fantom hardware get an update too with this EX version?

    • @Bruce.-Wayne
      @Bruce.-Wayne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it doesn't look like the hardware gets any upgrade according to roland website

    • @simonjonasmusic8410
      @simonjonasmusic8410 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Bruce.-Wayne Thanks man...makes me even more confused about the crazy prices though

    • @MakeMagic
      @MakeMagic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@simonjonasmusic8410Indeed. These look like they've been priced hundreds more than what you used to be able to buy them for and just add the EX upgrade. What are we paying for exactly, the new logo?

    • @park171
      @park171 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You paying for the ex update already installed. 😂

    • @ChristopherJenkins73
      @ChristopherJenkins73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It says 7k sounds in New EX. The original had 3500? I'm confused here on what all you get other than an EX Upgrades and an EX Under Roland on the keyboard! So... IF you purchase the old fantom and spend 199? You get the SAME thing for 2800ish? Via Clearance Price of 2599.00 + 199.00 Up? so for 2800.00 I get the Same thing they are selling the NEW EX VERSION FOR $3200.00?

  • @ursullavandenbord2322
    @ursullavandenbord2322 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Prices in Europe are insane.... NO NO NO 4199 Euros 4699 euros 4999 euros .... Crazy ! Even M8X is cheaper ..... Insane. Bye bye.....

    • @antonioperillo1182
      @antonioperillo1182 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Absolutely I agreed with you!!!!! Even if Is a instrument for a pro customers the price is exaggerated, at the moment!!!!

    • @ItsThatJahncke2
      @ItsThatJahncke2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm actually in the process of returning my Roland fantom 8. I did not buy the ex expansion. I can say that the v piano base sounds are not that impressive. I can also state that the string resonance is just plain bad..

    • @jorjajorjan3863
      @jorjajorjan3863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Too expensive What are they thinking?

    • @michaelcalderon6693
      @michaelcalderon6693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rob a bank europes punishments are a joke lol

    • @EdMiran
      @EdMiran 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is not Roland that make the Price, it is the Music Store.They pay for the Salaries and Wages of Employees,the Rentals,the Taxation, the Electricity and the Operational expenses of the Store.After 1 or 2 years they will be on Sale with 20 to 30 % Discount.

  • @roberthollander4522
    @roberthollander4522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget the JX3-p!

  • @Hannibaul
    @Hannibaul 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a beauty ❤

  • @dutnakke
    @dutnakke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only profiles for Cubase + Studio One? That leaves most of us behind

    • @roland_aus
      @roland_aus  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The FANTOM-EX has custom touchscreen control and dedicated modes for Ableton Live, Logic Pro, MainStage, Cubase, and Studio One.

    • @dutnakke
      @dutnakke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roland_aus Cool - the video made it sound like it was only support for those two DAWs

  • @abdielvelazquez773
    @abdielvelazquez773 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Use to be that software upgrades were free

    • @ablesam
      @ablesam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As far as I remember, all the engines in the OASYS that were additional, were paid upgrades, per engine. Just because it's software, does not mean that it takes less R&D money to build stuff like this.
      Plus, FANTOM EX is a major OS rewrite, not minimal ones like going from v2.5 - v3.0. It takes time, money to port tone generation engines like ACB and optimize them on FANTOM.
      Montage-M isn't that much of an upgrade software-wise, yet people will sell their Montage, lose a couple $100 or even up to a $1000, and willingly go out and buy. Yet when Roland continues to push the limits of hardware and charges $200 for an upgrade of an instrument at this price point, people complain.
      Sure, I'd love it if they fixed the after-touch issue, solved the polyphony issues, upgraded the sequencer and sampler (with more storage), but for what users have already invested in hardware, they continue to push it.

    • @fishgutt242
      @fishgutt242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Software add-ons not upgrades.

  • @1masterfader
    @1masterfader 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the Fantom. I have the O series. Used it at the Long Beach Jazz festival the past couple of years. (th-cam.com/video/g41VeomuIIw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QwOTjPgcfoQRuTIZ). Can I upgrade if I have the O series? I'm playing the Greek Theater and Requested two Fantoms for this show with a major artist. No other keyboard has an organ with the leslie that sounds so realistic. Also, On the Alto Sax when you use the pitch bend the Sax goes up the Minor scale. Never heard that before. I really dig the layering and the ASDR controls right at my fingertips.

  • @jameselias
    @jameselias 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strip all the audio out of it and make a midi controller out of this beast. Remember when Roland used to make proper midi controllers!? This thing would be fantastic as a logic controller with my Roland Cloud stuff... I'm not going back to workstations...

  • @biggiesmalls7939
    @biggiesmalls7939 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:50 - I would recommend you not "show" aftertouch on the fantoms....... The aftertouch is entirely useless. Requires WAY too much force to activate, and it's essentially an on/off switch. There's no control over how much aftertouch you get. I love my Fantom 8, but I was, and still am, heavily disappointed in the "aftertouch"......

  • @XPJV
    @XPJV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantom EX is almost free based on what it does!

  • @sagarlaishram8845
    @sagarlaishram8845 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yamaha Montage the best 👑

  • @DJpiya1
    @DJpiya1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why would anybody buy this over a Montage M 88 at this price, especially in Europe? 🤔🤔

    • @tiborcom
      @tiborcom 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Europe Thoman 3.869 €

    • @DJpiya1
      @DJpiya1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ yes it is now, but not two months ago. I think that is why the price went down.

  • @jorjajorjan3863
    @jorjajorjan3863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too expensive to have flaws.. I am reading that a lot users have polyphony issues...

  • @Charlesbabbage2209
    @Charlesbabbage2209 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, did you fix the sequencer and sampler? I rented one for a couple of months and I’m glad I did, because this product is trash for real production.

    • @aalamood
      @aalamood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fantom Is great machine and offer a lot of power for music production, seamless integration integration with DAWs, the sequencer is extremely easy to use, many patches and sound design offer variety of options based on the engine you use, end less possibility ....

    • @ablesam
      @ablesam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nop, same board, new paintjob and sticker with the EX-upgrade pre-installed. You're right on that last part, but this isn't meant to be a serious sampler or sequencer, unlike the 2000's Fantom series. Those were meant to be all-in-one units; this is more designed for integration with DAWs and extensive tone generation capabilities.

    • @aalamood
      @aalamood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ablesamThat's why I did not specifically said Fantom EX, I said Fantom, I have Fantom X8, Fantom FA, overall I cannot compare them with the Fantom from all the directions, users interface with scenes, connectivity, number of engine, TR-REC, match easer sampler with different ways to perform that etc.., my only issue with it is the number of Polyphony they can be consumed very easy, if you start using patches with 4 parts each on multiple zones, and the ACB and vPiano only available on Zone 1

    • @PaulMarangoni
      @PaulMarangoni 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ablesam Thank you for pointing this out. I had a feeling that my old Fantom G6 is superior when it comes to the sequencer aspect.

  • @larrymann1272
    @larrymann1272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉Roland Fantom X…I have this
    and won’t ever consider getting
    any other keyboard.

  • @csabakerekes3848
    @csabakerekes3848 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is not a workstation.....even roland calls it a synth. It should have a linear sequencer since day one....shame that the (now discontinued) FA series trumps it in this regard.

    • @penponds
      @penponds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or even the Fantom G8/7/6, I’ve got the 8 & a FA-07. The G is excellent for sampling and sequencing all in one and of course has those amazing ivory touch keys. The FA gives me the SuperNatural sounds I can access from the G via MIDI. And I’ve got the Arturia V-Collection which gives me a pretty convincing Jupiter 8 & Juno 8 emulation!

    • @FeatherGlow1
      @FeatherGlow1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@penponds I've had a Fantom G8 for many years and recently bought the Fantom 8 to replace it. After what I've read, I'm thinking I should not sell the Fantom G8 but I should maybe keep them both.

  • @------YeahOK------
    @------YeahOK------ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new hardware?? 😂😂 sneaky marketing right there.

  • @TheSouthernAccent
    @TheSouthernAccent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy expensive

  • @oc10121989
    @oc10121989 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ACB is the worst unfinished developed technology there was by roland i think, i dont know if they had other failes like this in the past

  • @kn39793
    @kn39793 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, the original owners have to pay for the upgrades and the people that buy it brand new get everything. We paid full price too. That is very unfair. They knew what they were doing when they released the upgrade first so that people would buy the software upgrade for people that had already bought the Fantom. They wanted to make money and then release the new Fantom EX and get more sales. It is not fair for us owners that have been invested in this since the beginning to pay for something that comes with the new EX keyboard. They need to give us the EX update for free. Roland, do the right thing.

    • @ablesam
      @ablesam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you seen the prices for the new Fantom EX models? It's cheaper to buy a brand new regular FANTOM and add the EX-expansion to it.
      It's the same hardware, just a new paintjob, sticker and the EX software upgrade comes bundled. People who are buying the FANTOM EX are getting ripped off, not original FANTOM users.

    • @kn39793
      @kn39793 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ablesam I have the original Fantom 8. The original price was the same. I’m saying we who paid the money originally should be getting the upgrade for free. We shouldn’t have to pay for the EX upgrade. It just leaves out the original people who bought it early on in 2019. I get what you’re saying but it is not fair to those who bought it originally.

    • @ablesam
      @ablesam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kn39793 I get your sentiment, but seeing the amount of effort Roland has put into a product that honestly needs a hardware upgrade to be able to fully make use of the EX upgrade (say use V-Piano and ACB models simultaneously, fix the after-touch on all the models, fix polyphony, upgrade the sampler/sequencer), we are quite lucky that Roland has even continued to support this lineup of synths. This is usually not their behaviour.
      FANTOM EX is afaik, a major rewrite of the OS, starting at version 1.0 again. These R&D costs can be recouped by sales of the upgrade. Furthermore, this upgrade is as good as releasing a new product, which is why they have left it up as an option, not a mandatory upgrade.
      Think of it as, if you want a new keyboard, don't buy a new keyboard, just download the OS upgrade. Similar to Windows 10 - 11.
      I can't convince you of the value of this upgrade, that's up to you to decide. But so far, I don't think owners of the original FANTOM are getting ripped off here, it's an optional upgrade. FANTOM OS 3.02 is pretty much the end of the line for the original owners.

    • @zoomzoom3950
      @zoomzoom3950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      even better, the Fantom 6, 7, 8 non-EX versions just had a price drop too.
      I have a new Fantom-EX-6 on the way. My main music store only has floor models available for the non-EX versions; getting a new EX with everything pre-installed, new in a factory sealed box was only $250 difference vs getting an unknown floor model + EX upgrade at $199. Not to mention getting a 15% discount!
      I was waiting for the Korg Kronos replacement release, but who knows when that will be. Fantom EX will work great until then.

  • @salvatorenapolitano6292
    @salvatorenapolitano6292 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very plastic piano sound :(

    • @------YeahOK------
      @------YeahOK------ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As always - unusable in the studio!
      (I use various Kontakt pianos instead)

    • @hanswurst2490
      @hanswurst2490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah... who the heck buys a synth to play piano? You all missed some hundreds of years of sound-development. Supersaw... I would want the Supersaw!!! Syn the sizer!!! Not (e)piano!

  • @rjordist4925
    @rjordist4925 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Korg is still better and affordable. 😂

  • @xray2785
    @xray2785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appalling pricing on these. Greedy Roland.