At first I was like.. pretty average tutorial video.. but then when you demoed it with your track i was like (this guy is awesome). really nice tutorial and I like how you had the Picture in picture, very good for me and anyone else to understand how strong a controller can be. :)
@JayCapistrano not sure if i understand your question, but if you are asking about how to create really short percussion noises you can use a sampler and adjust your volume envelope. set the sustain to 0 and decay to taste.
No tutorials up on that topic, but there are lots of ways to go about it. Heavy use of reverb (with a long decay) is one way, time-stretching clips can be fun (try doubling a clip's length to the maximum of 999 and setting the warp mode to texture), granular sampling is good (max4live Granulator), etc. One technique I'm using a lot right now is 100% Feedback loops using Filter Delay. Set different delay times and drop them on return tracks to send audio to them and grab short bits to loop.
Hey man Finally a useful video about doing that kinda drums. Was looking for that so long. Thanks a lot. And nice music by the way. Do you know a good sample pack for prepared glitch drums, like the ones you use? Which one are you using?
@bogabeat the midi effects rack is not at all necessary. i just like using racks to visually isolate the parameters (macros) i want to work with. i use an akai apc40 and it automaps out to ableton's devices. using a rack makes it easier to map the correct parameters out to the eight knobs on the apc. i could have just used midi mapping and selected the parameters i wanted but like i said i just find this cleaner visually.
Hey buddy! I haven't listened to tons of Proem honestly, so I don't have much to say about his techniques, but I remember a while back on a forum or somewhere he was mentioning he really enjoys working with drum synth plugins like µtonic and Tattoo. Might be a good place to start. A quick listen sounds like he just synthesizes a lot of his drum sounds then runs them through a bunch of FX tweaking knobs in real-time. Delays, filters, bitcrushers, distortion, reverb, etc. Maybe some glitch FX too.
can't remember if I sampled or synthesized actually, was a while ago. Nowadays though I'm all about synthesizing these kind of 808 minimal kicks. Much more flexible and actually really easy to whip up in Operator!
Try creating a midi clip that triggers every single note in a drum rack at the same time. Then drop an arpeggiator on set to Random mode, and turn the hold switch on. This will then trigger one random note at a time at the rate you determine in the arpeggiator. Instant vsnares. Not much groove though. You could also draw in notes for drum rack pads that don't have any samples to incorporate some random "rests" into your pattern.
Great work! I'm really into these glitchy beats. I am just starting with Ableton (and electronic generally), and I was wondering if you know if AKAI LPD 8 will be able to do the same function as your APC-40 - I mean, can I turn on and off the arpeggiator mapping the on/off to button to a pad on LPD-8? Or does the pads only work for drums, sounds, etc?
Yes, you could map it to almost any midi controller. You just need to map your AKAI LPD 8 to whatever set up you need. Pads are a binary on/off, so you will only be able to set the arpeggiator to then. Map the knobs to the gate / rates.
If you've only got binary pads, and you want to "jam" with something like this using your controller, the other option (although a little unnecessary) is to set up multiple instances of the arpeggiator on one instrument track, with different sync rates (various milliseconds, or in terms of beat division). Map the on off of each to a different pad. Keep in mind that if you have something set to say 50ms, and then you activate another instance at the same time of say 20, it's going to do the second arpeggiation on top of the original 50, and it's going to get a little cluttered. There is always more than one way to skin a cat, even if you only have a spoon.
Thanks for the tutorial Ryan, I love your style. Just a question, but where did you get those drum samples? Ive been getting into IDM/glitch and my main trouble is mainly getting that clicky glitch drum sample sounds. Ambience is easy thanks to granular synthesis, but those drum samples, I just can't get them to sound clicky/techy/glitchy or whatever the adjective is lol.
Amazing! Do you have any clue on how to replicate the glitch patterns you usually create from laying a Gate over a drum loop? My attempts to replicate that sound lack the character your sounds have. :(
Hey man i really dig your tutorials thanks! Do you like Proem? I think his percussive writing style is awesome! If you are familiar with him I would love to hear any ideas you have about how he is achieving that...
Awesome! 😊 i think you can also use the button as toggle, it makes it easier for me. The beat repeat is also useful for this kind of things! Anyway great work!!!
hi, is there a way to block the midi-channel as long as the arp. is active, so that only the first note gets reprated? hope u see what i mean... or even better, doing it with a delay, so i can cut away the beginning of the note if i activate it a little late-beat? u would really!! help me avoid buying the octatrack ; ) thanks a lot
Is there any advantage to doing this with ableton's native modules? My first thought would be to use Kontakt or Reaon's NN-XT which is built for this kind of granular sampling. Honest question though, not trying to troll.
ya beat repeat is a good way to do this (set to "Insert") but unfortunately you are stuck with only time-synced repeats (1/4, 1/8, 1/16, etc.) but still very useful.
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Namaste! This Video is a good example (for me) why i prefer my REAL vintage tools (like POLYSIX). I accept your way to be "creative", also the Harmonies are nice ... but in this way (I would destroy my fantasy a bit) the Arpeggios need more time to fix. Thanx for the inspiration and ... to let me remind WHY I´m a VINTAGE JUNKIE, (born ´64, so a Kid of the 70ies and 80ies, hehe!!!
Try a free plug in called LIVEcut - it's a small but very powerful generator of glitch, pitch anomalies, stutter back n forth, bit crush and comb filter. the algorithms are a geeky copy of aphex, squarepusher, coldcut etc etc .
String together tutorials until your skills are epic. I rewire Reason sometimes (started on Reason)...the amount of things you can do with that isn't even fair.
Mind-blowing! You need to make an album of such grooves man.
Where can we hear the full track?
At first I was like.. pretty average tutorial video.. but then when you demoed it with your track i was like (this guy is awesome).
really nice tutorial and I like how you had the Picture in picture, very good for me and anyone else to understand how strong a controller can be. :)
same here.
Man all of your tutorials are so creative.. !
I'd really like to watch more of them. I mean, I've watched all of your videos but... NEED MOAR.
@JayCapistrano not sure if i understand your question, but if you are asking about how to create really short percussion noises you can use a sampler and adjust your volume envelope. set the sustain to 0 and decay to taste.
How are you glitching the entire track w that, are you routing the signal of all audio stuff to go thru this device?
No tutorials up on that topic, but there are lots of ways to go about it. Heavy use of reverb (with a long decay) is one way, time-stretching clips can be fun (try doubling a clip's length to the maximum of 999 and setting the warp mode to texture), granular sampling is good (max4live Granulator), etc.
One technique I'm using a lot right now is 100% Feedback loops using Filter Delay. Set different delay times and drop them on return tracks to send audio to them and grab short bits to loop.
watched this to get ideas for a later date. loved your track a lot!!
Love it. I'm mainly focused on trance ATM but always had a curiosity toward glitch, thank you!
Hey man
Finally a useful video about doing that kinda drums. Was looking for that so long. Thanks a lot. And nice music by the way. Do you know a good sample pack for prepared glitch drums, like the ones you use? Which one are you using?
dude that is such an awesome idea! i also really dig the track you used as an example
so dope, and the song is really great too.
sounds as good as any artist i would listen to on the regular
when it glitches almost as a single tone, it gives me awesome chills mate haha
@bogabeat the midi effects rack is not at all necessary. i just like using racks to visually isolate the parameters (macros) i want to work with. i use an akai apc40 and it automaps out to ableton's devices. using a rack makes it easier to map the correct parameters out to the eight knobs on the apc. i could have just used midi mapping and selected the parameters i wanted but like i said i just find this cleaner visually.
Just subscribed. :) Good stuff!
Would you mind sharing which vst you're using for the pads?
I appreciate that,bro.
Hey buddy! I haven't listened to tons of Proem honestly, so I don't have much to say about his techniques, but I remember a while back on a forum or somewhere he was mentioning he really enjoys working with drum synth plugins like µtonic and Tattoo. Might be a good place to start. A quick listen sounds like he just synthesizes a lot of his drum sounds then runs them through a bunch of FX tweaking knobs in real-time. Delays, filters, bitcrushers, distortion, reverb, etc. Maybe some glitch FX too.
I like the electronic kick sound you've got going on (not the live drums). I imagine you synthesized it?
can't remember if I sampled or synthesized actually, was a while ago. Nowadays though I'm all about synthesizing these kind of 808 minimal kicks. Much more flexible and actually really easy to whip up in Operator!
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Awesome :) Defiantly subscribing
Also what deck are you using?
Do you have any tutorials on making the ambient noises or ambient synths
Also can you map the arpeggiator to a luanchpad?
Try creating a midi clip that triggers every single note in a drum rack at the same time. Then drop an arpeggiator on set to Random mode, and turn the hold switch on. This will then trigger one random note at a time at the rate you determine in the arpeggiator. Instant vsnares. Not much groove though. You could also draw in notes for drum rack pads that don't have any samples to incorporate some random "rests" into your pattern.
Great work! I'm really into these glitchy beats. I am just starting with Ableton (and electronic generally), and I was wondering if you know if AKAI LPD 8 will be able to do the same function as your APC-40 - I mean, can I turn on and off the arpeggiator mapping the on/off to button to a pad on LPD-8? Or does the pads only work for drums, sounds, etc?
Yes, you could map it to almost any midi controller. You just need to map your AKAI LPD 8 to whatever set up you need. Pads are a binary on/off, so you will only be able to set the arpeggiator to then. Map the knobs to the gate / rates.
If you've only got binary pads, and you want to "jam" with something like this using your controller, the other option (although a little unnecessary) is to set up multiple instances of the arpeggiator on one instrument track, with different sync rates (various milliseconds, or in terms of beat division). Map the on off of each to a different pad. Keep in mind that if you have something set to say 50ms, and then you activate another instance at the same time of say 20, it's going to do the second arpeggiation on top of the original 50, and it's going to get a little cluttered.
There is always more than one way to skin a cat, even if you only have a spoon.
Awesome Song. What software did you use for your pads sounds?
Thanks for the tutorial Ryan, I love your style. Just a question, but where did you get those drum samples? Ive been getting into IDM/glitch and my main trouble is mainly getting that clicky glitch drum sample sounds. Ambience is easy thanks to granular synthesis, but those drum samples, I just can't get them to sound clicky/techy/glitchy or whatever the adjective is lol.
I really enjoyed that tut. Can you upload these two bleep and blop samples or tell me where you got them? :)
cheers!
same effect can be achieved by selecting the loop button on the simpler/sampler and animating/controlling the length of the sample
Amazing! Do you have any clue on how to replicate the glitch patterns you usually create from laying a Gate over a drum loop? My attempts to replicate that sound lack the character your sounds have. :(
Hey man i really dig your tutorials thanks! Do you like Proem? I think his percussive writing style is awesome! If you are familiar with him I would love to hear any ideas you have about how he is achieving that...
Great tutorial and great song. Very well done, and thanks.
Awesome! 😊 i think you can also use the button as toggle, it makes it easier for me. The beat repeat is also useful for this kind of things! Anyway great work!!!
Great tips!!! Love the end result! -MD PandA
Excellent tutorial with great production value.
Of course! Anything that takes in MIDI can be used with this technique.
what synth were you using for the pad on that track
It can be used with apps like "touch osc" to controll ableton live or other DAW :)
hi, is there a way to block the midi-channel as long as the arp. is active, so that only the first note gets reprated? hope u see what i mean...
or even better, doing it with a delay, so i can cut away the beginning of the note if i activate it a little late-beat? u would really!! help me avoid buying the octatrack ; )
thanks a lot
very very good tutorial! one of the best ive ever seen so far! =D
That sounds like a good future song!
Where did u get the samples?
how do I get the bleeps and bloops?
Great quality man, nice job.
Love the track... Are you on soundcloud?
I loved the final result. Thnks for the vid.
Is there any advantage to doing this with ableton's native modules? My first thought would be to use Kontakt or Reaon's NN-XT which is built for this kind of granular sampling. Honest question though, not trying to troll.
Just dragging the arp into the bottom doesn't make it work. How do I do it properly?
Do you have a soundcloud channel?
It's for what the I pad ?
Thanks, a bog fan of your tutorials.
hey so is yours by the way... thanks for sharing some great techniques!
ya beat repeat is a good way to do this (set to "Insert") but unfortunately you are stuck with only time-synced repeats (1/4, 1/8, 1/16, etc.) but still very useful.
This sound was awesome. You should do a tutorial on how to do a song like this!
Lovely tutorial and such a cool song...reminds me of BT - Our Binary Universe,
why have you used a midi effects rack
2:19 - cat?
Brilliant
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Dude! That's a cooool track! Wanna download it! Where plz?
but as he is not assigning multiple controls to the macro ...why can he just directly assign the controls to his controller without using the rack
@yayadvir1 there's an incomplete version on my soundcloud (user ryanmcallister). it's called mother's day draft. hopefully i'll get it finished soon.
hey can u make a tutorial using reason 5 with ableton making a idm song from scrath pleas i would like that thanks for videos
amazing tutorial, amazing track
The track was fire :ooo
great video, thanks a lot, and nice mood on your song
Very handy, thanks, cool track as well.
Very nice example. Thanks for sharing.
Veryy cool man, nice IDM tune. I'll use that technique on my psytrance songs!
great sounding track
Gotta say, man, I really like the track!
Jojo great tip , amazing song !
Nice! Gave me some sweet ideas - thanks!
very cool and simple technique, thanks.
Very nice track, man.
Namaste! This Video is a good example (for me) why i prefer my REAL vintage tools (like POLYSIX). I accept your way to be "creative", also the Harmonies are nice ... but in this way (I would destroy my fantasy a bit) the Arpeggios need more time to fix.
Thanx for the inspiration and ... to let me remind WHY I´m a VINTAGE JUNKIE, (born ´64, so a Kid of the 70ies and 80ies, hehe!!!
I love this sick beat!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea dude, that was sick, thanks.
u-he's ACE synth. Love it.
Nice tune dude.
Try a free plug in called LIVEcut - it's a small but very powerful generator of glitch, pitch anomalies, stutter back n forth, bit crush and comb filter. the algorithms are a geeky copy of aphex, squarepusher, coldcut etc etc .
That was a powerful song.
very nice man! sweet track 2... :)
lovely result
great video, thanks for posting
Thanks man.. great tutorial.
thank you very usefull!
Awesome. Thank you!
what a effin great song!
This is awesome. Thanks!
awesome vid man, thx. you're a boss
String together tutorials until your skills are epic. I rewire Reason sometimes (started on Reason)...the amount of things you can do with that isn't even fair.
Great tutorial, thanks !
great video well done!
awesome track!!!
Dope. Thanks for the knowledge.
Cool technique and thanks for sharing! I'll leave a video response once I've made something from this :)
this is awesome, thank you.
great tutorial m8, thanks!
awesome song.
Thanks for the subscription! Glad I could help :-)