@@angulinhiduje6093 i mean, he is gold now, so the coaching have worked, just need time for the knowlege o set in and change his bad habit, change never happen in one day no matter the subject
@@joemama9479 not really, i think if he plays for a year daily he'd get to masters and maybe find him at ranked reset, but that's a LOT of effort still lmao
@@LazoGT he doesn't even know what all the champions do yet, and the game has been out for 14 years... It would be insane if he hit masters at any point, considering that the playerbase as a whole has been improving for that long, ESPECIALLY the upper elos. Then again, it is North America, which is closer to a zoo than a competition...
9:15 To make sure you get exp, and dont wanna check the hud for it, you can turn on a setting for showing on your character when you gain exp. Its under the same category as the gold pop up on minions setting.
best video so far alois. i learned a lot of the most basic stuff about this game. Completely changed my mindset, because i thought the same way about league as Ludwig did. Thanks for the info!
This was fantastic. Would actually love to see a followup sometime where you check in with him and see what areas he's improved/failed to keep up practice in. The accountability would probably help him with his goal, too. Whether you're actively coaching him or just doing the occasional VOD session, definitely drop a sequel if you both get the chance! Also, I think you guys should do a live session as well after some VOD reviews to mentally warm up maybe? Keep up the awesome work, coach o7
30:00 he came in range later, but his attack speed is so low that he didn't hit minion a single time while he was in it. It also does not go in circles, it deals # amount of damage every # seconds around garen.
For the bluetooth auto attacks, essentially any ability that modifies an auto animation *WILL* connect once the animation gets around 1/5th through (garen q, nasus q, aatrox passive, jax w, voli q, etc)
its great to see someone getting coached that doesn't just accept concepts as absolute truth without truly understanding and getting the logical aspect in other words, ludwig has a big brain.
it does count. When u use your abillity dmg changes mid flight. This is abused on mid because u can trow most skillshots and while they are mid air lvl them up so u deal dmg of higher lvl spell but pay mana of lower lvl
26:48 actually if you level up a spell midcast it applies the damage increase instantly. A micro thing is to cast your skillshot before leveling it to use the lower cost mana and level it mid flight and it'll deal the full damage
Same thing for items, btw For example, if you die as a teemo and the enemy is still poisoned and you are able to buy an item, the poison damage will take the new item into account
27:05 correction: YES, it does count and make the spell stronger. For example Ahri Q, when you've used the spell and then level it up during animation two things will happen: 1) DMG is of the new spell AND 2) spell cost is still of the lower level => more dmg and lower mana cost. Skill-capped made a short about that.
26:56 I believe this is actually wrong! At least, on specific casting abilities like Viktor. On Viktor, you can cast your level 1 e and upgrade it to a level 2 e during the cast animation. If the e casts as a level 1 spell but hits as a level 2 spell, you will deal the level 2 spell damage while using the mana of a level 1 spell. This leads me to believe many duration abilities are spaghetti coded and can be abused just like this one.
Great video, Not only was Alois a great coach, i think Lud did a great job being a student and actually listen instead of letting his ego get in the way.
1:10:25 >"if you are playing something like camille then you might want a gank" Yeah, because then Camille can get moving around the map and help you (the jungler) do other things and win the game quickly before she eventually starts to go downhill on the scaling early champs need 1 good "help" to get out of lane and help the jungler win right away late champs need the jungle to use their own potential with the rest of the team somewhere else while they get ready to be helpful later
I also watched Lud play this live and as your piggy student I was dying inside at the lost cs. Several times watching Lud play league during that challenge I had to close stream because of the sheer amount of cannon minions lost
Hey Ludwig, if there’s a chance you read this, just know that you simply have to play the game and ENJOY the game to get better. Lots and lots of hours specifically for early game. Getting a lead in early game (0-15minutes) will generally dictate how the game goes. There’s so many things you have to experience to know. Just as long as you enjoy the champ you’re playing with, this should be a smooth ride to atleast gold. If you’re a prodigy, maybe to platinum. But gold and plat are pretty much the same lol
ludwig already bought coaching from caedrel and somehow has ended up not using it but tbh alois is way better of a coach because it what he actually does
caedrel's stream schedule (and most eu streamers) doesn't overlap with ludwig's, so scheduling it is probably tough. i guess ilois just scheduled around him. i think the coaching with caedrel is still in the works though
Already within the first 4 minutes I can tell alois is not a great coach for a beginner, he is for people who understand the game but there's no way lud is taking in half of what he said
Amazing that between the two of them they couldn't realize that abilities like garen's SPIN and fiddle's SUCC have a tick rate and aren't continious damage
59:55 do not let it go unnoticed that Ludwig said he was a top 50 melee player, which is entirely untrue for all of human history. he could whoop me though
I'm a little surprised that he didn't really realize what happened when ludwig walked away from the gank. For a new player your vision radius might as well be a small circle around their champ when they are doing something (last hitting in this case). He didn't even realize his jungler was ganking. I guess you could say ludwig was slow but it's really just more like he has sensory overload and can't spare cycles to watch the map
U should probably make a tier-list for Ludwig how strong enemy lanes are, like lane-bully → easy beatable, also that laners with ignite shouldn’t be traded with
Imagine a game of chess where you could intentionally skip your next 3 turns to bring back a piece or something. And any check would interrupt it, cancelling the summon.
I understand that if he wants to stay good and keep getting better to "find a role that he likes/fits him" But there's no one who teaches any other role like Alois teaches Top. There's no one that has even close to as solid and cut and dry of a mindset or plan for this game fundamentals can make top lane a systematic W that rarely looses before like diamond If Lud wants to get that good that fast, it has to be the steps alois gave him in this video I don't see another way
Awesome job. When watching Ludwig I couldn't understand why he is so kill centered and why noone he played with was telling him honestly what he's doing wrong. Maybe Connor from time to time. I know he is a good gamer and I'm sure he will be able to climb fast at least through bronze with these FUNDAMENTALS. I don't know how fast he's gonna progess after. Let's see :)
Quick correction, i believe it was proven that if you level up a skill while using it, the damage does increase, at least for projectiles for example you use ezreal Q and you level it up mid air it does increased damage, don't know with channeled abilities like garen E tho
I think Lud really shot himself in the foot by not leveling his account himself. Those many games you have to play to get to level 30 would have really helped him slowly get familiar with the game against people closer to his actual skill level
Lud's analogy of Valorant of being able to beat someone who is fully bought when you're on an eco round with no util is predicated on the basis that your skill level would be a lot higher than your opponent. However everything that was shown in the lane before hand shows that his skill level is in fact lower than Illois.
because in valorant being able to beat that opponent with a full buy is all mechanical, while league is essentially all game knowledge. Thats the hardest thing as a fellow former valorant player to learn as well, that even if this guy doesnt have crazy faker mechanics that he probably knows more about the game than me
the analogy makes sense still, because you could be blatantly better than your opponent in league of legends and still not win, moba games work very different from fps games
@@doria500 I didn't say that the analogy didn't make sense. I just said that his opponent is outgearing him and blatantly better than him in this league game.
@@sockyypoo i'd actually argue that beating an opponent with a full buy if you have a classic isn't fully mechanical at all i'd say its 50 mechanical 50 knowledge. If you're in a long range fight with a classic vs a vandal unless your opponent is 100% terrible you're not going to win that fight. You need the knowledge to get a flank somehow while avoiding trips or play in a spot close to their entry and not get hit by their util like blinds or seen by sova drone, sky dog, cypher cam etc, and that takes having more game knowledge than the opponent for them to not expect you coming.
@@joeyaknow1103 true, there are a lot of situations like that which require some game sense i guess, i just feel like in valorant if you have good aim you can kinda cheese it and just shoot everyone and aim better while in league i feel like there isnt anything (as an fps player) i can mechanically take advantage of to be better than another iron or bronze player.
Hey Alois, I know why the Garen E didn’t last hit the caster minion at 29:30, Garens E will prioritize hitting champions over minions, even though the animation shows it covering a whole area, it will choose to hit the champion over minions iirc
Glad to see Alois helping small streamers get better at league
FRFR 😂😂
Umm Ludwig is much higher than alouis he isn't small.
@@JoshDoes woosh
@@JoshDoesno way bro
@@JoshDoes hes being ironic bro
Ludwig taking this so seriously is honestly pretty cool. Love the fundamentos taking priority
He knows nothing, what else but fundies to teach him
He used to be a speedrunner so im not suprised
don't watch last nights games haha
@@Former4K 2 month later this speedrunner learnt nothing and is still bronze lmao
@@angulinhiduje6093 i mean, he is gold now, so the coaching have worked, just need time for the knowlege o set in and change his bad habit, change never happen in one day no matter the subject
Ludwig meeting tyler1 in a ranked game would actually be the anime arc I never knew I needed
hes never getting to the same elo lmao
It would unironically take him 3+ years of playing daily to get close
@@joemama9479 not really, i think if he plays for a year daily he'd get to masters and maybe find him at ranked reset, but that's a LOT of effort still lmao
@@LazoGT emerald 1 is enough to catch him on reset if you are lucky (or he is playing a smurf)
@@LazoGT he doesn't even know what all the champions do yet, and the game has been out for 14 years... It would be insane if he hit masters at any point, considering that the playerbase as a whole has been improving for that long, ESPECIALLY the upper elos. Then again, it is North America, which is closer to a zoo than a competition...
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9:15 To make sure you get exp, and dont wanna check the hud for it, you can turn on a setting for showing on your character when you gain exp. Its under the same category as the gold pop up on minions setting.
I saw him talking about how he'd love to coach ludwig, we made it happen boys
best video so far alois. i learned a lot of the most basic stuff about this game. Completely changed my mindset, because i thought the same way about league as Ludwig did. Thanks for the info!
I always forget Ludwig is actually very good at learning things quickly. He seems like a goofball but he is actually very smart
Nah he dumb as hell
Cope
@@hockeyfan145 GENUINELY, wtf do you mean by this? Cope what?
@@hockeyfan145 i dont think you know what cope means
Looks like I triggered the Ludwig fanboys
Yes, I needed this so bad watching Ludwig play is agony
vid is so helpful tbh, going through all the fundamentals from the ground up in one vid
Coaching someone like ludwig is actually so damn helpful, he asks great questions and is entertaining at the same time. Hope to see more of these! ♥
This was fantastic. Would actually love to see a followup sometime where you check in with him and see what areas he's improved/failed to keep up practice in. The accountability would probably help him with his goal, too. Whether you're actively coaching him or just doing the occasional VOD session, definitely drop a sequel if you both get the chance!
Also, I think you guys should do a live session as well after some VOD reviews to mentally warm up maybe? Keep up the awesome work, coach o7
9:00 You go in the settings and check a box for showing minion xp. Helps a lot at the beginning to feel that xp range
As someone who started playing last week this video specifically is very informative.
30:00 he came in range later, but his attack speed is so low that he didn't hit minion a single time while he was in it. It also does not go in circles, it deals # amount of damage every # seconds around garen.
I think this is the single best video you ever posted to help beginners/low elo players, thanks allot
For the bluetooth auto attacks,
essentially any ability that modifies an auto animation *WILL* connect once the animation gets around 1/5th through
(garen q, nasus q, aatrox passive, jax w, voli q, etc)
its great to see someone getting coached that doesn't just accept concepts as absolute truth without truly understanding and getting the logical aspect
in other words, ludwig has a big brain.
I hope this kooperation makes this channel explode. Alois derserves it
Alois hit the big leagues 🙏
Goated guide to understand the basics of wave/lane states for a returning league player like me, ty Alois
it does count. When u use your abillity dmg changes mid flight. This is abused on mid because u can trow most skillshots and while they are mid air lvl them up so u deal dmg of higher lvl spell but pay mana of lower lvl
I think it depends on the skill
@@LoL-dx3si most likly not since im preety sure that there is only one script for lvling abillities
26:48 actually if you level up a spell midcast it applies the damage increase instantly. A micro thing is to cast your skillshot before leveling it to use the lower cost mana and level it mid flight and it'll deal the full damage
Same thing for items, btw
For example, if you die as a teemo and the enemy is still poisoned and you are able to buy an item, the poison damage will take the new item into account
Seeing him play top after the coaching session was hilarious! he ignored every advice lol :D
I'm so glad ludwig realised that league is a resource management game. he's going to go much further with that in mind that most other people
The radius to get ex from minions is varus’ max range Q
27:05 correction: YES, it does count and make the spell stronger.
For example Ahri Q, when you've used the spell and then level it up during animation two things will happen: 1) DMG is of the new spell AND 2) spell cost is still of the lower level => more dmg and lower mana cost. Skill-capped made a short about that.
love the video was very informative and love to see others get into league
holy moly im Diamond and Im learning things from both of them this is hilarious.
26:48 there are abilities that do give you benefits of lvling up while casting
Most helpful everything laid out fundamental video. Thank you for this upload.
I remember alois not being allowed to go to LAN because of his parents being strict and school. Came such a long way, keep it up!
I think this was a great breakdown for a new player, really insightful knowledge that I wish I had when starting.
My two favorite creators lol that's awesome
26:56
I believe this is actually wrong!
At least, on specific casting abilities like Viktor.
On Viktor, you can cast your level 1 e and upgrade it to a level 2 e during the cast animation.
If the e casts as a level 1 spell but hits as a level 2 spell, you will deal the level 2 spell damage while using the mana of a level 1 spell.
This leads me to believe many duration abilities are spaghetti coded and can be abused just like this one.
4:30 is when ludwig voice is back
9:33 So funny dude, we all have that one game where we're like yeah I never want to see this champ again after this game
Great video, Not only was Alois a great coach, i think Lud did a great job being a student and actually listen instead of letting his ego get in the way.
Watched the whole video. Hope you two will do more stuff in the future!
1:10:25 >"if you are playing something like camille then you might want a gank"
Yeah, because then Camille can get moving around the map and help you (the jungler) do other things and win the game quickly before she eventually starts to go downhill on the scaling
early champs need 1 good "help" to get out of lane and help the jungler win right away
late champs need the jungle to use their own potential with the rest of the team somewhere else while they get ready to be helpful later
The other reason wards are normally put in bushes, is because they block line of sight. You get more vision as a result in most cases.
This is unexpected but amazingly entertaining
I have notifications on for both of these guys so this really feels like a Disney crossover episode
I also watched Lud play this live and as your piggy student I was dying inside at the lost cs. Several times watching Lud play league during that challenge I had to close stream because of the sheer amount of cannon minions lost
The COACH!!!! @ 46:26 gets me every time lol
great content mr. bossman! please continue your great work!
btw if you use ability and level it up while you cast, you can use the lower mana cost, and do the upgraded damage.
the collab I didnt know I needed
Starting from scratch and getting plat in a season would be a crazy accomplishment, but definitely possible with the fandamentos.
Holy fuck my two favourite youtubers collabing. This is so fucking amazingm
Hey Ludwig, if there’s a chance you read this, just know that you simply have to play the game and ENJOY the game to get better. Lots and lots of hours specifically for early game. Getting a lead in early game (0-15minutes) will generally dictate how the game goes. There’s so many things you have to experience to know. Just as long as you enjoy the champ you’re playing with, this should be a smooth ride to atleast gold. If you’re a prodigy, maybe to platinum. But gold and plat are pretty much the same lol
ludwig already bought coaching from caedrel and somehow has ended up not using it but tbh alois is way better of a coach because it what he actually does
i think they're still working on it
hes gonna get coached by all of them
He said he is planning on getting coaching from a bunch of different people
caedrel's stream schedule (and most eu streamers) doesn't overlap with ludwig's, so scheduling it is probably tough. i guess ilois just scheduled around him. i think the coaching with caedrel is still in the works though
Already within the first 4 minutes I can tell alois is not a great coach for a beginner, he is for people who understand the game but there's no way lud is taking in half of what he said
LETS GO. Been waiting for this one
Amazing that between the two of them they couldn't realize that abilities like garen's SPIN and fiddle's SUCC have a tick rate and aren't continious damage
Not the collab we expected, but the collab we needed 👏🫡
That was a free top tier coaching, thank you
top notch, Can hear the Throne and Liberty music in the background xD
59:55 do not let it go unnoticed that Ludwig said he was a top 50 melee player, which is entirely untrue for all of human history. he could whoop me though
He said he was top 50 in his state 🤣 which also means nothing cause he grew up in the tiny state of New Hampshire
@@jimle1370 I think he was talking about Arizona though, not his homestate.
he wss top 50 az
I'll let it slide cuz idc
watching ludwig play dr mundo after this coaching session and then watching this coaching session made me wonder where it all went wrong
11:28 its also to see BEHIND the bush, you cant see behind the bush if you have no vision in it
Love Alois, love Ludwig. Let’s gooo
Would love to see a live game coaching session
Never thought I would see this duo
I'm a little surprised that he didn't really realize what happened when ludwig walked away from the gank. For a new player your vision radius might as well be a small circle around their champ when they are doing something (last hitting in this case). He didn't even realize his jungler was ganking. I guess you could say ludwig was slow but it's really just more like he has sensory overload and can't spare cycles to watch the map
Hey Alois this was such a good video!
damnnn alois is now collabing with ludwig.. youve grown my boy
I think you can also turn on the notification that shows the xp you gained to better help know the range to stand in
U should probably make a tier-list for Ludwig how strong enemy lanes are, like lane-bully → easy beatable, also that laners with ignite shouldn’t be traded with
Imagine a game of chess where you could intentionally skip your next 3 turns to bring back a piece or something. And any check would interrupt it, cancelling the summon.
i love this, you helping here is great
The colab we didn't know we needed
I understand that if he wants to stay good and keep getting better to "find a role that he likes/fits him"
But there's no one who teaches any other role like Alois teaches Top.
There's no one that has even close to as solid and cut and dry of a mindset or plan for this game
fundamentals can make top lane a systematic W that rarely looses before like diamond
If Lud wants to get that good that fast, it has to be the steps alois gave him in this video
I don't see another way
BROOO i was literally watching a league video from ludwig and thinking that you could coach him and that would be CONTENT
found you thru ludwig, great vid man
Awesome job.
When watching Ludwig I couldn't understand why he is so kill centered and why noone he played with was telling him honestly what he's doing wrong. Maybe Connor from time to time.
I know he is a good gamer and I'm sure he will be able to climb fast at least through bronze with these FUNDAMENTALS. I don't know how fast he's gonna progess after. Let's see :)
32:43 Dodge skill shots, last-hit better, kill tentacles, ward pixel brush or play around the standard 3min30sec top gank, fundamentals.
Quick correction, i believe it was proven that if you level up a skill while using it, the damage does increase, at least for projectiles for example you use ezreal Q and you level it up mid air it does increased damage, don't know with channeled abilities like garen E tho
Hmm.. I commented on one of his videos that Alois should coach if he wants to get to plat... what a coincidence :D
we need a reaction of luds mundo game after this coaching session alois will be heartbroken
Ludwigs boutta get a compliment soon
TIL im gonna hit plat before Ludwig, i was bronze end of last splt, now gold 1, ty fundamentals king
Freeze frame ludwig looks so oblivious.
"Got a coach" - how did it go? "I decided to roleswap"
30:20 i think its because the spin dmg just went off. so before the next dmg of the spin, that minion was hit by the other minion.
I wonder when this sessions was. Checking Lud's last games he hasn't played a single top lane game XD
insane content bro
Video with Chef would Go crazy
"The only way your are winning this fight is her disconnecting form the game." Daaaaammmn that explains so many of my mistakes
Finally, I get the fundamental crossover content
a lot of ppl still dk that they can still hold the abilities with quick cast and show the indicator, dk what the exact setting is but it is there.
I think Lud really shot himself in the foot by not leveling his account himself. Those many games you have to play to get to level 30 would have really helped him slowly get familiar with the game against people closer to his actual skill level
I always forget how hard league was when I first started
Me getting one game from plat without knowing about strong side or jungle movement...💀
This will help a ton.
Have you ever considered becoming a teacher if streaming doesn’t work out ? You’re insanely talented
Lud's analogy of Valorant of being able to beat someone who is fully bought when you're on an eco round with no util is predicated on the basis that your skill level would be a lot higher than your opponent. However everything that was shown in the lane before hand shows that his skill level is in fact lower than Illois.
because in valorant being able to beat that opponent with a full buy is all mechanical, while league is essentially all game knowledge. Thats the hardest thing as a fellow former valorant player to learn as well, that even if this guy doesnt have crazy faker mechanics that he probably knows more about the game than me
the analogy makes sense still, because you could be blatantly better than your opponent in league of legends and still not win, moba games work very different from fps games
@@doria500 I didn't say that the analogy didn't make sense. I just said that his opponent is outgearing him and blatantly better than him in this league game.
@@sockyypoo i'd actually argue that beating an opponent with a full buy if you have a classic isn't fully mechanical at all i'd say its 50 mechanical 50 knowledge. If you're in a long range fight with a classic vs a vandal unless your opponent is 100% terrible you're not going to win that fight. You need the knowledge to get a flank somehow while avoiding trips or play in a spot close to their entry and not get hit by their util like blinds or seen by sova drone, sky dog, cypher cam etc, and that takes having more game knowledge than the opponent for them to not expect you coming.
@@joeyaknow1103 true, there are a lot of situations like that which require some game sense i guess, i just feel like in valorant if you have good aim you can kinda cheese it and just shoot everyone and aim better while in league i feel like there isnt anything (as an fps player) i can mechanically take advantage of to be better than another iron or bronze player.
Alois trully is the best coach
42:00 hitbox is criminal lmfao
Honestly its amazing to see a streamer with the influence and stature of ludwig throwing his life away trying to hit plat in league in 2024
Hey Alois, I know why the Garen E didn’t last hit the caster minion at 29:30, Garens E will prioritize hitting champions over minions, even though the animation shows it covering a whole area, it will choose to hit the champion over minions iirc
that's some crazy level conspiracy theory wtf
What are you takling about @kingzed5130 this is an Area of Effect ability, it doesn't have any priority, it hits everything equally
Ludwig learning Fundamentals fairs
Perma banning Illaoi is so real. Used to play Sett top and it was impossible playing against her and it was hell.