The Perfect Synthetic Diamond

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    2:25 Typo. Bottom text should say 1880
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  • @OffGridInvestor
    @OffGridInvestor ปีที่แล้ว +307

    I remember hearing about these around 2006/07. We got PILES of yellow diamonds in Australia that were almost worthless until the "champagne diamond" marketing started.

    • @jakobnev5973
      @jakobnev5973 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      People will really spend money on any bullshit to satisfy their desire for costly signaling.

    • @contagioushavoc5794
      @contagioushavoc5794 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I dont know if it was at all successful but a few years back there was also the chocolate diamond. Same deal

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You say "yellow", but if they were truly intensely colored then they were always valuable. Off-white, not so much.

    • @wnxdafriz
      @wnxdafriz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chir0pter will say, the weirdest thing i have ever made in my life is make some tiny gold big macs with yellow diamonds for the sesame seeds.... and when i say tiny, talking about the size that you may see on a keychain

    • @siyustuff213
      @siyustuff213 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      piss diamonds

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Ooo! Shiny! My wife's engagement ring has a 6 karat flawless sapphire. A natural stone like that would cost at least $10 k, but since it is a synthetic (yes, she knows it's synthetic) the stone only cost about $60. Isn't technology wonderful!

    • @dinok7630
      @dinok7630 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is very cool.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Yes. It puts the emphasis on what matters (at least to me as a recovering metalsmith), the artistry. I hope you had a nice setting made for the stone.

    • @surferdude4487
      @surferdude4487 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@christopheroliver148 Yes. the setting is difficult to describe. My wife designed it. the material is white gold. The gem is set inside of two arms that wrap it from either side. When people see her ring, their reaction is to grab her hand to get a better look at the ring.

    • @klowen7778
      @klowen7778 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You bet! And wasn't really aware that synthetic diamonds had advanced beyond industrial uses, that they were now competing in the consumer market, until those ads started appearing, touting the advantages of 'natural' diamonds... yep, we live in truly remarkable times!

    • @surferdude4487
      @surferdude4487 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@klowen7778 Yes, there are gem quality manufactured diamonds available now. They are still beastly hard to produce, but without the diamond cartel controlling the prices, they are a lot less expensive than natural stones. Synthetic sapphires are a lot easier and less expensive to produce. Some of the newer smart phones have a sheet of synthetic sapphire instead of glass on the screen. You can choose for yourself but as for me, I won't be paying for natural stones ever again.

  • @russellthorburn9297
    @russellthorburn9297 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    The story of diamonds is a story about how easily human beings are both manipulated and corrupted.

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it is used in political spin in every democracy event.

  • @alandoak5146
    @alandoak5146 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    My ex-wife loved the synthetic ruby engagement ring we bought at the gem show (gem and ring picked separately and set on site): huge, flawless, economical, no hillside was hydraulically blasted away, nobody died, it suited her aspirational and ostentatious tastes... a big middle finger to the jewelry biz, only outdone by a cracker jack ring or outright rejection of marriage.

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My wife has a beautiful moissanite ring and I trade gems, of course I could find her a similar diamond ring.
      I'm not crazy.
      *Moissanite shines much more if you ask me.

    • @iqcops
      @iqcops ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said! 🤣💪

    • @MasterMayhem78
      @MasterMayhem78 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      “Ex-wife” 😆

    • @ir3188
      @ir3188 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LaurentiusTriarius Moissanite and many other gems are much prettier than dimond. I work in the stone trade as well and I tell everyone I know, only go to a dimond store if you have amazing counterfeit money.

    • @KlodFather
      @KlodFather ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The words of a true Alpha Male... Salute. "only outdone by a cracker jack ring or outright rejection of marriage." My thoughts exactly. Its wedding chains not wedding rings.

  • @robiaster
    @robiaster ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Honestly, looking at some of the marketing regarding Diamonds, I find it funny that many of the same tactics have been used to sell NFT's recently.
    Celebrities were given them with a claimed "purchase", they were advertised in movies, etc.
    Specifically "bored apes". Also these were compared to fine art, always portrayed as something valuable and rare and all of their value came from perceived value with no intrinsic value to itself.
    The only difference is that Diamonds also have industrial applications and at least have physical properties that give them intrinsic value.

    • @mattsadventureswithart5764
      @mattsadventureswithart5764 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As much as I like polished stones (especially opal and agates), diamonds are worth the same as NFTs in my mind - nothing.
      Well, I like them for sharpening my tools, but as a shiny stone in a ring? Nothing

    • @alanstringer.
      @alanstringer. ปีที่แล้ว

      NFTs, most crypto, and especially fine/modern art (ESPECIALLY especially modern art) are just money laundering schemes. Modern art in particular has been implicated in this way countless times and even has roots with the CIA pushing it on people in order to have something to compete with the Russians' seemingly superior art culture at the time.
      This whole diamonds thing is just another in a long, LONG line of the broader public not understanding what they're looking at and simply going along with what they're told. Why do the research if someone's already done it for you, right? I literally don't blame them, but it sucks that more people aren't at least curious... or more accurately 'suspicious.'

    • @Wyi-the-rogue
      @Wyi-the-rogue ปีที่แล้ว

      Also,
      Diamonds are pretty,
      Bored apes look like shit.

    • @aristideau5072
      @aristideau5072 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And what makes those NFT's even more worthless is when I looked into them and discovered that the image itself, ie the JPG, does not reside in the blockchain. The actual image is stored in what is known as 'off-chain' storage (in other words, on a server somewhere). Only the link to the location of the JPG is stored 'on-chain'. The address itself cannot be altered, but there is nothing to stop the image itself being overwritten. It's like saying that you own a book in a library whilst only having in your possession the index card for that book.

    • @mikeguy1899
      @mikeguy1899 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aristideau5072 in some cases you dont even own the rights to the image which makes it even funnier,

  • @me0101001000
    @me0101001000 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    For those curious: the process of allowing impurities and small crystals to be destroyed to allow larger crystals to grow is called Ostwald Ripening. It was originally used to describe bubbles in foam, but it applies to crystal growth as well. In CVD graphene, we do this as well, but use oxygen to destroy the smaller crystals, letting the larger sheets grow with less defects.

    • @kid_missive
      @kid_missive ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you are conflating two different concepts, but ok.

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kid_missive what other concept? If there's another concept that works like that, I'd love to learn about it. As far as I know, the use of a reactant, heat, or any external force to remove an undesirable product to make way for the desired product is Ostwald Ripening.

    • @LenQuerido
      @LenQuerido ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kid_missive Why, do you know what graphene is? Carbon is very interesting in all its forms. I did use a lot of different types of graphite and diamond, both natural and man-made and of course there are for technicians a lot differences, because it's our task to study its properties in the lab and in use (industrial diamond used for a range of tools). Never used graphene by the way.

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've never heard of that before but it reminds me in some ways of the Ising model of magnetic domain consolidation in a ferromagnetic material falling through its Curie point. Goddamn I love the comment sections in the intelligent part of youtube. There is so much interesting insight.

    • @sunnyjim1355
      @sunnyjim1355 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I'm not curious about this at all. OK, maybe a little bit, but actually no not really.

  • @blanchjoe1481
    @blanchjoe1481 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    Dear Asianometry, Once again thank you for another well researched piece. If you believe DeBeers, then there is a difference between "synthetic" diamonds, and "Real Natural Organic" diamonds, and of course that is why they cost more. Unlike Gold, Diamonds are quite common. I remember when some decades back the South American diamonds came onto the market, huge numbers of them in good quality, however by geologic tendancy, they were all predominantly "yellow" as a result DeBeers created a campaign to convince consumers that yellow diamonds were inferior and not as good as African or Russian Diamonds ( their mines of course ).

    • @fjs1111
      @fjs1111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yup yup premo work!

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว

      OHhhHHHAHHAHAHHhhhhhophhhahhahahhahhphhhhhhppoooohhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There is a difference, you can easily test for the presence or absance of trace metals using an xrf analyzer. Also most synthetics will have unusual color centers in them. The whole thing is a racket tbh.

    • @miinyoo
      @miinyoo ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Diamonds are literally organized carbon.
      Take those resources and put them to something of actual use.

    • @pauleohl
      @pauleohl ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@miinyoo Actual use? We can buy a diamond coated wheel for cutting tiles at any hardware store and the price is less than the tiles for a bathroom. Too bad that Asianometry did not cover this topic.

  • @samsmith9764
    @samsmith9764 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    For those who don't know, Bridgman mentioned in this video won a Nobel prize in 1946 "for the invention of an apparatus to produce extremely high pressures, and for the discoveries he made therewith in the field of high pressure physics" Using this neat bit of kit allowed him to reach pressures comparable to the Earths deep internal pressure.

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Scientifically speaking, diamond is one of the most fascinating materials known to man. Able to slow light to just 40% it's speed in vacuum, a thermal conductivity five times greater than copper and silver, a huge bandgap of 5.6eV - large enough to potentially allow it to be made into deep ultraviolet emitting LEDs, the list goes on and on. Did you know that some diamonds not only fluoresce, but phosphoresce, or glow in the dark after exposure to UV light? Or that thermoluminescence was discovered by Robert Boyle who held a diamond "on the warmest part of my naked body" in the dark? The Gemological Institute of America youtube channel has a whole series of extremely in-depth scientific videos on the various properties of diamond, from Raman scattering analysis, to cathodoluminescence microscopy and infrared spectroscopy authentication. It's an incredible substance that we've only begun to truly understand in a comprehensive way.

    • @felipel.r.637
      @felipel.r.637 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you very much!

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@felipel.r.637 surely

    • @dhxmg
      @dhxmg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it's electrical conductivity? Specifically I'm curious if we could start to see "diamond plated connectors" for audio/PC equipment. (Vapor depositing the diamond onto the cable connectors perhaps.)

    • @stephendoherty8291
      @stephendoherty8291 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or that its likely that Diamonds of a much larger size existing deep with the earths core (far deeper than any current mine). That its technically possible based on the gases and pressures that you could send a robot scooper deep enough into the Uranus and Neptune atmosphere and collect massive diamonds that fall as daily diamond rain. I recall a nice SCIFI book where synthetic (or orbitally mined diamonds) allowed them to create large sheets of it to protect New York from the ravages of time-earths weather and protecting timeless structures using one of the hardest translucent materials in the galaxy. All of which is just using wildly found gases and pressure-heat. De-Beers had a large industrial diamond factory in Shannon, Ireland to meet industrial demand for cutting tips that only diamond could manage. Based on current diamond prices, the cartell still exists. Mines love it, diamond owners love it yet Rubies are rarer than Diamonds but sell for less.

    • @lUnderdogl
      @lUnderdogl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dhxmg Well diamond can be burned. So it is not likely but definetly possible.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    That South Africa diamond has a story to it. The kid picked it up and played with it because it was shiny. An Afrikaner offered to buy it, but the boy's mother was about to just let him have it. He had to inform them just how insanely valuable it was.

    • @georgeshapiro301
      @georgeshapiro301 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think there's a lesson about the true worth of the stone in that story.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@georgeshapiro301 also a lesson in why Africa is poor

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @Samson Soturian well, being a colonial plaything for europeans and their racist kids up to the 1990s probably didn't help either

    • @scottfranco1962
      @scottfranco1962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right out of Stienbeck's "the pearl", which, spoiler alert, is not the Pearl.

    • @mazimadu
      @mazimadu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@samsonsoturian6013 as an african, YES THIS IS SO TRUE!

  • @ThomyThompson
    @ThomyThompson ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Did my PhD thesis last year about artificial diamond films and their application as bio-platforms due to their inherent biocompatibility with cells and biomacromolecules like proteins. Did extensive research on diamond production with both HPHT and CVD approach and now you drop this video.
    Diamond is truly a remarkable material and my favorite application so far is the use of large CVD grown diamond as windows for the ITER fusion reactor.
    It was Lavoisier who discovered that diamond was made out of carbon while burning a diamond in an air tight container with a magnifier glass and directing the gases into lime water. These results were published in 1772. Tennant repeated the experiments and made them more sophisticated and published in 1797.
    Some other remarks:
    - GE used a transition metal solvent: iron-rich iron(II) sulfide
    - The role of tantalum is crucial since the first diamond were grown on an intermediate tantalum carbide layer and nowhere else

    • @francescoviscomi4258
      @francescoviscomi4258 ปีที่แล้ว

      we use diamonds as heat sink for high power lasers

    • @User9681e
      @User9681e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would something like silicone carbide could be used as windows for the reactor too ?

    • @ThomyThompson
      @ThomyThompson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@User9681e The transmission in the range of the pump laser (to ignite and stabilize the plasma) is not high enough for SiC. Diamond has a broader transmission window. A silicon carbide window would be getting to hot. This is also the case because diamond has sublime thermal conductivity properties, so the heat is removed more effectively.

    • @user-ce1vp4hi6j
      @user-ce1vp4hi6j 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      можна спробувати ростити CVD діамант на стінках циліндра вкритого шаром графену в центрі камери мікрохвильовий і ультразвуковий випромінювач подача газу (co2 і H ) отримаєм діамантову трубку

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    NileRed would disagree with "diamonds are forever". The things burn (in a pure oxygen atmosphere).

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thoisol did this just yesterday.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The carbon is forever how dare you

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimurrata6785 How do you know? Were you there?

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TimPerfetto It was _released_ yesterday. th-cam.com/video/gmKlSBT_ITk/w-d-xo.html
      I don't think it was _recorded_ yesterday. 🤷‍♂️

  • @vytautasvaicys8745
    @vytautasvaicys8745 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Your ability to deliver on topics that i did not know I was interested in is unparalleled.

  • @zaammiii
    @zaammiii ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hate that we have a way to make diamonds just as good as the ones in the ground and yet people think "no the suffering makes it special"

  • @ThePhiphler
    @ThePhiphler ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rubies did this whole transformation from rare geological resource into manufactured good as well, just much earlier.

  • @bitrage.
    @bitrage. ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Big issue with dimonds is they have CRAZY large value loss in secondary market...

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I wonder why, maybe people know they're not worth anything :P

    • @bitrage.
      @bitrage. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheAechBomb the ppl that deal with it on a daily basis "pawn shops" look at em as practicaly rocks... show them gold it's a different story.... I tried the argument with the ex.... well she is an ex, so that rock didn't do much...🤣

    • @ShirleyTimple
      @ShirleyTimple ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody wants a used-less rock🤷‍♂️

    • @bitrage.
      @bitrage. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ShirleyTimple well it's good for drill tips....🤣🤷‍♂️

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bitrage. gold is a universal currency and investment tool that also have many usages in electronics, diamonds are in fact just a shiny extra-hard rock. Also not remotely malleable unlike gold that is extremely malleable.

  • @canadiangemstones7636
    @canadiangemstones7636 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The Diamond Makers, by Robert Haven, is a terrific read. There is a lot more drama to the story, some literally explosive.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were those the guys on Mythbusters debunking those "make your own diamond" videos?

  • @alexis1156
    @alexis1156 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Effectively the natural diamond market is, or at least was a monopoly, they started to jack up prices to absurd levels, and then what happened is.... People found alternatives, and that alternative was, you guessed it, artificial diamonds.

    • @howlingwaters2741
      @howlingwaters2741 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi @Alexis synthetic.😊💎💥👀❤️

  • @Hobbes4ever
    @Hobbes4ever ปีที่แล้ว +13

    De Beers was mentioned quite a lot when I learned about monopolies in my microeconomics class 😅

    • @stinkeye460
      @stinkeye460 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is one of the best monopolies.

    • @mikehawk6918
      @mikehawk6918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stinkeye460 Child's play compared to the banking and oil cartels that run the world.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Caveat: Factories value diamonds according to hardness. Jewelers value diamonds according to shininess.

    • @Moses_VII
      @Moses_VII ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fascinating

    • @tigerchills2079
      @tigerchills2079 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      the former is a legit use case. the latter can be replaced by glass :)

    • @joetwiddy2139
      @joetwiddy2139 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Harder stones are easier to work with as well, you dont have to worry about scratching and workibg a bit more heavy handed

    • @falsch4761
      @falsch4761 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tigerchills2079 or zircon, I swear I could not differentiate the two

    • @bruhmania7359
      @bruhmania7359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@falsch4761 or moissanite or even easier rutile

  • @permik
    @permik ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Loved the @HydraulicPressChannel reference there! I admire the incredibly high quality work that you put to each and every one of your videos. Greetings from Finland!

  • @Jason_Quinn
    @Jason_Quinn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Slide at 2:28 shows "1870" for both stats.

  • @sportclay1
    @sportclay1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father Dr. Robert DeVries, Francis Bundy, Bob Wentdorf, Jim Fleischer were GE's High pressure lab, "diamond mine" developers at the GE R & D center in Niskayuna, NY. My father and this crew had nearly 60 patents related to the diamond synthesis processes as well as the synthesis of gem quality jade and Cubic Borozon Nitride, CBN(which is as hard as diamond). Gem quality stone produced at the R&D center were numerous in the 70's and GE CEO Jack Welch gave them as gifts to customers and dignitaries. Bob Wentdorf acquired some peanuts from President Jimmy Carters Georgia peanut farm and carbonized them and they made a tie clasp for Pres. Carter with three 1 carat diamonds. They made diamonds from many odd materials, Chocolate ... They were able to control color at that time and the stones in that piece were Red, White and Blue. My mother had several pieces of jewelry made with stones produced at the R&D center. The other members of the team also enjoyed this benefit. My wife has a ring with one of the early stones. I have a small pill container with about 2 dozen rough stones that have various flaws. The rough stones were taken to NYC to the diamond district to be cut and mounted. GE built a lab in Worthington,OH to produce large quantities of industrial diamonds. I have a large number the high pressure vessels used to create these stones. They get used for door stops and paper weights. Made from Tungsten carbide and other alloys. One of the most significant developments was the sintering process for bonding the crystals together in a matrix that would hold up to severe abrasion. Hence the cutting teeth on oil and water drills used through out the world and the common sharpening stones and dental burrs etc. Diamond is natures teflon, very difficult to get it to adhere to anything. In the Smithsonian in DC the natural history museum Gem and Mineral exhibit is a display of the first GE diamonds and pictures of my father and Francis Bundy. Dr. DeVries passed away last year at 99.

  • @nfriedly
    @nfriedly ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I just started reading the book Diamond Age a couple of days ago, what a coincidence! I'm really enjoying it so far.

    • @Pillowcase
      @Pillowcase ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fantastic book

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stephenson? You'll enjoy it. He's addicting.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How dare you ruin the life he gave you and worked in hell to see

    • @adam872
      @adam872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a great book

    • @parkerault2607
      @parkerault2607 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you haven't read them already, you'll love his other early books. Everything after the baroque cycle is kind of meh though. Snow Crash, Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon (essential reading for any engineer!), and the Baroque Cycle (a trilogy prequel to Cryptonomicon) are my favorite books and I've read them all multiple times. Absolute bangers.

  • @silmarian
    @silmarian ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember reading an interview with a gem -quality diamond startup who said she'd received death threats over her work from existing interests. I think this was in the late 90s? IIRC, they also blindfolded the journalist on the way to the lab, and as this was before smart phones they wouldn't have worried about gps so much.

  • @adam872
    @adam872 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Slight correction: Argyle is/was a Rio Tinto mine and ceased production in 2020. It's being rehabilitated and returned to local indigenous groups.

    • @zurielsss
      @zurielsss ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't the 2 companies , Rio and BHP merged or have a Joint venture?

    • @adam872
      @adam872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zurielsss there was merger planned in 2008 but BHP walked away from the deal

  • @pierred3l3cto47
    @pierred3l3cto47 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite videos of yours ever. And you're just getting better better at these things.

  • @stickymoney
    @stickymoney ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoying your detailed, indepth yet succint summaries of different industries.

  • @johnnycarholder7282
    @johnnycarholder7282 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Chocolate diamonds are just Industrial diamonds that had a very good marketing and advertising campaign.

    • @dheibeljr
      @dheibeljr ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That campaign a few years back infuriated me. I knew there would be uneducated fools rushing to buy overpriced trash that is the low grade version of something that is already rather common, and get ripped off. THe only reason to ever buy a "chocolate" diamond is if the piece requires that color for artistic reasons.

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes I bought industrial diamond as cutting and dressing tools, they are not expensive as that, and just get expensive when you want them to be gem quality.

    • @trent6319
      @trent6319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dheibeljr How is this any different than clear diamonds? Are clear diamonds not overpriced rather common gemstones

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trent6319 "Common" lol. Common is quartz, or garnet. If you've ever done any rockhounding you'll understand the difference between "common" and diamond.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dheibeljr I think they look cool honestly, I'd buy one if it was really cheap

  • @door-to-doortaxcollector3484
    @door-to-doortaxcollector3484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've actually been reading about the diamond industry for a few days and this was a nice surprise from one of my favourite channels.

  • @nixietubes
    @nixietubes ปีที่แล้ว

    No matter how frequently you upload I get excited every time, and I love the diversity of your topics!

  • @OgbondSandvol
    @OgbondSandvol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the high-quality work!

  • @DuelPorpoise
    @DuelPorpoise ปีที่แล้ว +25

    as a professional jeweler, I'd love to know where I could find a good wholesale diamond for ~$500 a carat!
    that said, I think the route of the man made diamond is closer to that of the manmade sapphire and emerald than the pearl.
    the gemstone industry has done a better job marketing many other kinds of natural gemstones over manmade gems, hell Chatham has been making emeralds for over 100 years, but their extremely good looking emeralds haven't done what culturing did to pearls yet.
    But perhaps your assumption will be closer to the mark? it would be nice to see diamonds go down in price like amethyst, I could sell a larger quantity for less individually, but more profit, much like when gold was cheaper.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a regular jeweler and I've never heard of a diamond

    • @DuelPorpoise
      @DuelPorpoise ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TimPerfetto regular unleaded jeweler?

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What I like is that if more and more minerals are available in high quality as synthetics, then it might put the emphasis back where it belongs on the artistry of the piece rather than how big the rock is.

    • @KP-ty9yl
      @KP-ty9yl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christopheroliver148 Rings aren't about the artistry for everyone, though. I think if the average person had a $1000 budget for a ring they'd spend $950 on the setting and $50 on a synthetic. Me, I'd spend $950 on a natural stone and $50 on a silver setting. It's more about the natural beauty and rarity of the gemstone; synthetics don't do anything for me.
      No different than if someone collects rare coins, they want an original, genuine coin even if it doesn't look as pristine as a modern replica.

    • @jimjam6598
      @jimjam6598 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KP-ty9yl Yessss you hit the nail on the head. It's what some people don't seem to understand about the industry.

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    In the 1990s, Nova made a documentary on synthetic diamonds, and DeBeers. This video, is great update, of the 20+ year progression. Several processes are used in semiconductor manufacture, so of course, who else, would make this video ! They were getting close, in that old Nova Documentary. Not that big of a surprise, that todays synthetic diamonds are of better quality, than the mined ones.

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remember watching it as a kid as well. Anyone here interested can see it if you search for PBS NOVA "Diamond Deception". If you're into that sort of thing, I have NOVA documentaries on lasers and nuclear fusion from the 1970s on my channel.

    • @jimalcott760
      @jimalcott760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Muonium1 17:43 17:43

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimalcott760 ???

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the variety of topics that you cover. Great job.

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for including an errata in the video description.

  • @fred3612
    @fred3612 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. Thank you for doing the work to get all this together.

  • @Indrid__Cold
    @Indrid__Cold ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The High-Temperature-High-Pressure history of gem diamond synthesis is even more colorful, and filled with intrigue. The Russian material scientists of the Soviet Union created a geometric anvil process that produces huge quantities of diamonds to this day.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว

      They sure as hell don't

    • @LenQuerido
      @LenQuerido ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the synthetic diamonds come from small 'mama-papa' companies as they are called in China. In 2004 there were 20.000 of these companies in China. The diamond was assembled, mixed, and sieved to get a fixed quality. That was compared with MBS 730, 740,750 from GE. Another name and to be compared to...

  • @FlintIronstag23
    @FlintIronstag23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here's a quick comparison I found for a 1 carat round brilliant diamond with D color, VVS1 clarity, and excellent cut:
    Natural Diamond from Whiteflash: $12,582
    Lab Created Diamond from Brilliant Earth: $2,640
    Moissanite diamond simulant mounted on a sterling silver ring from Amazon: $45.95

  • @favesongslist
    @favesongslist ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, keep up the excellent work, Happy Christmas from the UK.

  • @tonyycheng
    @tonyycheng ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, it is such a great video. With detailed steps I diamond history. I really appreciate your 5-STAR work!

  • @pyrokuda9743
    @pyrokuda9743 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best channels on my list. Great video!! Thank you

  • @alamagordoingordo3047
    @alamagordoingordo3047 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You are a breath of fresh air for my mind. Thank you.

  • @SS-hz4jo
    @SS-hz4jo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video. Thank you. I love the idea that synthetic diamonds can eliminate some diamond mining exploitation.

    • @howlingwaters2741
      @howlingwaters2741 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love my 3ct pear shaped white lab grown anniversary diamond!
      I love our house, too! 😆🚫💸

  • @cliffjewels
    @cliffjewels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well researched and insightful ! Thank you for this 👍❤️

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The lesson is “Don’t be a brainless marketing tool”.

  • @fjs1111
    @fjs1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Premo content as usual, good work man!!

  • @AnnatarTheMaia
    @AnnatarTheMaia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Diamonds are very important in industry, for example for cutting and grinding, or lasers.

  • @DigiLab360
    @DigiLab360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely Brilliant! Well done for an amazing assessment. While it hurts to admit, kudos to De Beers for adjusting to the changing market.

  • @subramaniantr2091
    @subramaniantr2091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Where's the hydraulic press channel when you need them!" This deserves a medal.

  • @38josue91
    @38josue91 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:00 awesome! Thank you for presenting the full stereographs. The extra dimension more than makes up for the lack of details in these old pictures!! ❤️❤️

  • @SaceedAbul
    @SaceedAbul ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your knowledge of a wide range of (and at times seemingly random) topic is amazing.

  • @JohnBinay
    @JohnBinay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, great visuals! Thank you for sharing.

  • @chemistryinstruments7156
    @chemistryinstruments7156 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The synthetic diamonds have been good for mid infrared optics

  • @tedmitchell226
    @tedmitchell226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having worked in the industrial diamond manufacturing market, yellow and black were predominately used, when it came to intricate shapes CVD was a nice option although they were mainly black but a log as they were called 1x1x2.5mm sold for a $1.00 a piece and the gem looking ones were about $30.00 a piece, these were different shape usually triangle. A CVD is just as hard as a real diamond. If I remember correctly the Blue diamond is the top of the list for expense and usually came from Russia

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the enlightening video!

  • @kutkuknight
    @kutkuknight ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a goldsmith: there is ZERO practical difference between artificial and natural gems. Except that artificial ones are cheaper and not the result of slavery…

  • @accessiblenow
    @accessiblenow ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review of an isolated product or process

  • @EdgedPixie
    @EdgedPixie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has filled me with a desire to create my own diamond for means to propose, when I'm ready to. I'm somewhat of an academic, so the growth of technology and technique with all its history, really speaks to me. And the concept of a diamond made personally, offers far more emotional value than a mere shop-bought rock that helped fund a century of monopoly and corporate cabal-ship.

  • @iancowan3527
    @iancowan3527 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol... I love they used Fluorite crystals in the cover image used from the thumbnail...

  • @petergambier
    @petergambier ปีที่แล้ว

    All this about crushed carbon, and the way you explain makes for a fascinating subject, way to go thanks Asianometry.

  • @terpy663
    @terpy663 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a great video. very happy to have found your channel with the AI hardware video.

  • @quantumbitz3473
    @quantumbitz3473 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CVD diamond brings T.E. Bearden's concepts flooding to mind. A notion on cryogenic Casmir effect also is intriguing.

    • @iluvmyjewels8619
      @iluvmyjewels8619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What the hell does this even mean…. 🙄

  • @aristideau5072
    @aristideau5072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked for a software company in the 90's which provided reporting software for Argyle (one of the handful of mines in the world that produces pink diamonds) and one of the sellers told us how the diamond selling process worked Antwerp.
    The seller from Argyle would arrive with a bag full of diamonds and then take a handful and place them on the desk. He, along with the buyer, would grade each diamond from the sample, categorising them on clarity, colour, size etc.
    They would haggle back and forth moving diamonds from one pile to another. Once they agreed to the gradings and set a price they would then apply that to the whole bag.
    There were also representatives from DeBeers in the building who would intimidate the buyers.

  • @Dingomush
    @Dingomush ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Ex still enjoys her Ruby wedding ring and the silver coin work ring that I made her, rather than a diamond. I refused to pay some thugs inflated prices for a gem that isn’t even rare just because they want to store several tons of the material and line their own pockets…..

  • @miklov
    @miklov ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating. Thank you!

  • @davecool42
    @davecool42 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great eye opener. I wasn’t aware of all the recent changes in the industry. Synthetic all the way!

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ditto -- hadn't known synthetics have come far enough to undo DeBeers.

    • @LenQuerido
      @LenQuerido ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You must listen to the story. I remember an American company making pure synthetic diamonds in all kinds of colours. The diamonds were suitable to be used as jewellery and were very pure. Incidentally, the process was quite costly, but cheaper than the market supply. The fact that the diamonds could be produced in all possible colours did not please De Beers at all, as did GE my supplier at the time.
      They destroyed the company by making good use of the law, and perhaps they later took it over for a few pennies just to be on the safe side.

  • @strickca991
    @strickca991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And yet women will still say they want a blood diamond that costs an absolute outrageous amount because they connect large amounts of money to love.

  • @hamsta11
    @hamsta11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Once synthetics can scale production of VVS2 and higher 4+ carat diamonds then they'll be in a position that naturally mined diamonds cannot supply sufficient demand of irrespective of price. If they can dominate that end of the market thru sheer available inventory the lower end of the market will eventually follow.

  • @thirstfast1025
    @thirstfast1025 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I work in a diamond assay lab (process raw samples of kimberlite to determine diamond content), and I can tell ya, we're not getting busier....

  • @feraudyh
    @feraudyh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - I have a synthetic diamond to show you.
    - Hold my de Beers!
    Seriously though,
    I have a distant relative who hold quite a few patents on synthetic diamond making.
    The company is Diams Concept.

  • @unknownhours
    @unknownhours ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think Moissanite is a better gemstone: almost as hard, and with higher index of refraction and double refraction.
    Diamond semiconductors is a technology I am excited for. Diamond is the best semiconductor, but semiconductors need to be extremely pure. I think there a couple of companies working growing silicon and GaN on diamond substrates to take advantage of its incredible thermal conductivity.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto ปีที่แล้ว

      No you dont you just want to ruin his life

    • @unknownhours
      @unknownhours ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TimPerfetto Excuse me?

    • @lawrencefrost9063
      @lawrencefrost9063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Never heard of Moissanite. But I know what I will be buying for my wife.

    • @userre85
      @userre85 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lawrencefrost9063it's more brittle

  • @GirishVenkatachalam
    @GirishVenkatachalam ปีที่แล้ว

    Great research and honesty

  • @noneofyourbizness
    @noneofyourbizness ปีที่แล้ว

    i worked at Argyle Diamond mine on and off (shutdown projects) 1996 - 1999. great food !

  • @onlypranav
    @onlypranav ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So when are we getting $50 - $60 a carat diamonds? Shouldn't it be here already since the cartel is broken?
    Perhaps a little more for cutting, but surely not 20x

  • @RalseiGaming
    @RalseiGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have a friend who is 78 very kind old man and all he has done for the past 30 years is prepare opals and his current price guide on selling is from the 70s and he’s severerally underselling opals i have tried a lot to help him fix it but i think he currentally might be developing dementia cause sometimes he barely remembers stuff as recent as last week but his collection is absolutely amazing is probably over 400 thousand carats of black australian opal

  • @IO-zz2xy
    @IO-zz2xy ปีที่แล้ว

    A great presentation. I learned a lot of history even I did not know.
    Regards from South Africa

  • @soundtrancecloud5101
    @soundtrancecloud5101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:15 - The cult of diamond 💎 pricing.

  • @vickyburton2434
    @vickyburton2434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My jeweler just started offering lab created diamonds and they are 2/3 less in cost and gorgeous! I have never had anyone offer to pay me half of what I paid for my natural mined diamonds, so I am tired of paying for the same thing.

  • @jmd1743
    @jmd1743 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Big money in industrial uses. Imagine if we could have gold for the price of pig iron due to space mining, it would revolutionize infrastructure for instance you could have wiring that doesn't corrode for applications such as signaling for subways where it's a matter of life & death and there's a constant threat of moisture.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 ปีที่แล้ว

      Space mining will be owned and monopolised by 1 or 2 billionaires, so it will never be cheap

    • @ostsan8598
      @ostsan8598 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gold from space is going to cost much more than gold from the Earth, due to the cost of getting all the equipment out of the Earth's atmosphere and waiting to get the gold back to Earth. Then refining, which means either sending up refining equipment to space or sending the gold ore to Earth. Gold from space isn't going to be competitive unless mined gold increases dramatically in price, or the majority of gold used is outside of Earth.

    • @jmd1743
      @jmd1743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ostsan8598 The gold we're mining are in the grams per multi ton load of mined rock & dirt. We're mining gold so deep in the ground that workers are only allowed work for so many hours per work day for the sake of their health.
      It's only going to get worse from here.
      China is also facing production bottle necks for their meat. They have pig meat sky scrapers and yet they're required to buy up farms in America.
      We're hitting diminishing returns with the meat industry, so much so that Tyson is investing into cell cultured meat unlike how Kodak refused to invest into digital cameras.
      We will require a fundamental shit in how we do our industries but once we do we'll have industrial revolutions.

    • @brynnrogers5081
      @brynnrogers5081 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glass fibers don't corrode, carry data far faster, and are as cheap as sand. Copper is still a better conductor of power than gold. Proper copper wires have insulation bonded over them, and they will not corrode.

    • @jmd1743
      @jmd1743 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brynnrogers5081 That's a good point, we could upgrade our routes to use fiber optic signalling when we do decide to electrify routes so you wouldn't have trains idling to save a buck on fuel.

  • @tjmmcd1
    @tjmmcd1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DeBeers had one of the most successful maketing campaigns, where they alleged men should spend at 'least' a month's gross salary on a diamond engagement/wedding ring. Women, in turn, would display their new rings ostentatiously, as if her new spouse's worth was solely dependent upon the size of the diamond in her wedding band. Of course, 'most' men were forced to finance the purchase of a wedding band, instead of using the money toward things that were much more necessary. "Sorry honey. I can't afford a down payment for a house because I used the money to buy you a totally USELESS shiny crystal, sloely for you to impress your coworkers and friends".

  • @pauljones9150
    @pauljones9150 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well researched and presented. I didn't know the influence of hydrogen gas in the creation of diamonds.
    Is the process for moisanite the same?

    • @cdl0
      @cdl0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Atomic H in the CVD plasma abstract (remove) H atoms from the growth surface creating open sites to which methyl radicals in the plasma can attach, and thus extend the crystal.
      Moissanite is made by either the Acheson process or the Lely method. Details are available from Wikipedia, etc.

  • @genma986
    @genma986 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    No man should spend money on a diamond ring.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No woman or enby either

    • @kalactose348
      @kalactose348 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get creative when adorning your lover. Get her a tigerskin coat, a royal garmet in Africa.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kalactose348 kinda wasteful when it comes down to it

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wile123456 near all diamonds are purchased by men

  • @a_brand_architect
    @a_brand_architect 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent overview.

  • @ricki-bobby
    @ricki-bobby ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The discoveries in the Canadian Shield also changed the industry to some degree

    • @gus473
      @gus473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! Was looking for this point! 😎✌🏼

  • @EnkiduShamesh
    @EnkiduShamesh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I worked briefly as an apprentice diamond cutter, and the guy training me (who has cut some of the largest internally flawless diamonds in the world) told me that the main problem with synthetic diamonds is that the grain is always twisted. Diamond crystals have an orientation, galled the grain, similar to wood in a way. Diamonds only cut when the direction of the grain is perpendicular to the direction the lapidary wheel is spinning - the further away it is from perpendicular, the slower it cuts, and the more heat builds up. As you noted, diamonds are carbon and will burn, and that includes scorching on the outside while being cut, requiring the carbon to be polished off. I was in the shop when a 7 carrot stone (full of knaats) got too hot while being cut and several facets had to be recut (I think the stone might have even needed to be re-girdles, though I can't be certain).
    When the grain is twisted it is called a knaat (similar to a knot in wood). This twisted grain is hell to cut and polish no matter how you orient it in relation to the cutting wheel. I always knew that this problem would be solved at some point, but I'm not aware of it being solved. As the master cutter training me said "synthetic diamonds are just giant knaats." Imagine being a wood carver and all you had to work with was a giant knot of twisted wood. Natural stones often have twisted grain and knaats, but the highest quality ones are clear of them. Synthetics, AFAIK, still won't be able to yield the highest quality cut to the stone, though I'm sure that is only a matter of time.
    Of course, most people won't notice that the facets of their stone are bumpy due to twisted grain, but it does affect the grading of the stone.

  • @charleschidsey6192
    @charleschidsey6192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding quality of research and reportage. As usual.

  • @bhuuthesecond
    @bhuuthesecond ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video dude

  • @haemse
    @haemse ปีที่แล้ว

    Your vids are just another league!

  • @lorenwilson8128
    @lorenwilson8128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nanodiamonds can be made from xylene subjected to a plasma at the correct energy and frequency. The hope is to make better lubricants among other products. This process makes very small diamonds (hence the name nanodiamond) but they fluoresce like natural diamonds do.

  • @prnvhs918
    @prnvhs918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Asianometry, please try to do a video on CMOS and imaging sensors and its evolution with lots of technical details

  • @ericweis9771
    @ericweis9771 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative
    Thank you

  • @kevenquinlan
    @kevenquinlan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always great content. I'll assume you mean synthetic, in regard to cultured pearls, as in they are produced purposely instead of naturally- but the processes for making them are basically the same. A lot of people construe synthetic with artificial, which it is not.

  • @geninji6117
    @geninji6117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I created some small ruby recently but it’s not gem worthy. I used a hydrogen torch, tungsten crucible and aluminum oxide +chromium oxide. I hope to get gem quality as I try new ways.

  • @johnwheaton4636
    @johnwheaton4636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating... thanks

  • @nexusyang4832
    @nexusyang4832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha! I knew exactly what CVD was when you said it because I've watched and learned all about semiconductor manufacturing from the channel. :-)

  • @johnslugger
    @johnslugger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *The synthetic diamond makers have finally made a version that can't be identified by the GIA ID machine. They even put flaws in the stones making them look imperfect.*

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this isight. I've always know diamond industry was a scam, but I didn't know the history how it became one.

  • @nurlanusubaliev2696
    @nurlanusubaliev2696 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw Web of Taiwan company that can make square diamond that can be used as base for the semiconductor chip. How do you think is it interesting?

  • @gwernette5971
    @gwernette5971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went visited a Louis Vuitton store at Caesars Palace. I had to walk out of there as the whole establishment stank of dead animal hides