followed with the "thats the same odds as hitting a bullseye...blindfolded...with your hands tied behind your back" lmao and what would those odds be exactly?? lotta silly dialogue in these vids. Watched one on a pole vaulting record jump and hes like "he had the bronze and had one more jump, so why did he risk such a big jump now" what do you mean?? because its his last jump and hes secured the bronze?????
Not even mentioning Swedish Jan Boklöv, who invented the V-style. But then again, even though he always jumped the farthest, he was constantly downgraded for style. Until everybody adopted it. I'ts also way safer than the classical jump.
@@rotapander It isn't, the V-style was NOT invented by Bokloev, but rather popularized in the World Cup circuit. There were other athletes that attempted to jump like that, among those was Jiri Malec seen in the video.
Arcadian - under modern (2018) standards, Funaki's jump would barely rate 18.5's. Under the standards of 1998 - this jump was unbelievable. It wasn't a case of marking down the landing, it was a case of marveling that the landing was made at all...
LOL Bullshit about this being a jump rating 18.5's today. Please. It looks just as remarkable now as it did 20 years ago. And I saw it live on my telly back then. I'll never forget it.
This is actually not 100% truth. Swedish ski jumper Jan Boklöv was the one who invented the V-style and first one using it in international competetions.
are you guy ahve problem with listerning ? or your brain just dont work ? they never say japanese invent the v shape lol they just say that some czech ( white ) used it in olympic and he think that it made he fly longer , so some japanese scientic or math guy do the math vv about it and found it true so everyone start to used it
inoue jerry They never say who invented it but it’s wrong to say that Japanese scientists and the czech is a vital part of it. Boklöv was the one who invented it and he flew much further than everyone else and that’s why the scientists even researched it (if they did). (Not because of the Czech)
I remember watching Nykanen jumping, if I remember he was only 16 or 18 years old , and the American 'expert' commentators were pointing out all the things he did wrong. and yet he landed 8 meters further than anyone else. If he'd got it right, he would have landed outside the arena. Just goes to show what the American experts know.
If there's one thing I can count on its finding someone coming up with a new ridiculous thing to ridicule anything they can about an American. I'm sure no other experts from any other nationality have ever gotten anything wrong. Nope, couldn't possibly happen.
There are many Ski jumpers who had won a gold medal, but there is only one who has his own movie and that's Eddie Edwards. So i think Eddie 'the Eagle' ist the most successful Ski jumper.
Yesterday, Kraft should have got a perfect score. New hill record in Kuusamo with a textbook style and a fascinating telemark. I'm not professional style judge, but I don't understand why all of them gave him 19,5 points each. For me this was most beautiful jump in history, there is no doubt :)
Probably because he didnt made a jump believed to be impossible. What you need to understand is that Picasso isnt the "best", technique wise, cubist to have ever lived, he is the inventor, the first one.
@@samsignorelli it is easier to just say bullseye than triple twenty as "train" is to rail yet we use train as road that dont have rails but my point is imposable to trow with hands tied behind the back
Dax Moore Fine, then let's talk the field portion of track and field. High jumpers are judged by vertical distance, long jumpers by their horizontal distance, same with javelin/shot put/etc. If it's something which can be objectively measured, there shouldn't be a subjective measure influencing the score.
1) tradition 2) most importantly, since a pretty Landing requires to exit the aero position earlier, it gives an incentive to safer landings. A distance only based competition would end up on who dares leave the aero position the latest, which opens the door to huge safety concerns. The athletes themselves were recently asked about it and virtually unanimously were agreeing to keep things the way they are since they all know there would be that one random lunatic who would take massive risks and force them to follow. Furthermore, data shows that, provided you land "properly", distance and style are correlated quantitatively. So ultimately it already comes down to who jumps the farthest, as long as they follow a certain esthetic pattern.
To be honest he should have 3 of those however the other 2 jumps eve tho they were perfect like this one was for some reason Italian judge would give him 19.5 twice and the other judges all gave him 20s!!!
Should just be rated based on distance imo. Maybe being stylish even limits how far they can go. However the air is an uncontrollable variable that probably matters a lot and that would reward luck too much.
Its illustrative but ridiculous way to explain technique of skijumpig, and exclusion of Ian Boklev is elementary fault -he is not mention here, for V technique, but ok if it is used to marked Funaki`s achievement.
前傾した身体とスキー板がほぼ平坦に並んで見えるような船木のフォームの美しさは永遠に語り継がれるだろうね。
“That’s nearly as far as the great pyramids of Giza.” As far as they are what? Tall? Wide? Away from me? That sentence bruh
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followed with the "thats the same odds as hitting a bullseye...blindfolded...with your hands tied behind your back"
lmao and what would those odds be exactly?? lotta silly dialogue in these vids.
Watched one on a pole vaulting record jump and hes like "he had the bronze and had one more jump, so why did he risk such a big jump now" what do you mean?? because its his last jump and hes secured the bronze?????
Come on do you need everything broken down into details? Here we go "as far as jumping from that ski track in Japan to the pyramid of giza"
what
Wish he could pronounce Nykanen properly...
Not even mentioning Swedish Jan Boklöv, who invented the V-style. But then again, even though he always jumped the farthest, he was constantly downgraded for style. Until everybody adopted it. I'ts also way safer than the classical jump.
Respect for the deeper information. A welcomed Insight that a casual fan might not be privy to.
Actually, the Polish ski jumper Mirosław Graf invented the V style, but no ome followed him and Boklov made it popular
@@lclccl that's bullshit haha
@@lclccl that's bullshit haha
@@rotapander It isn't, the V-style was NOT invented by Bokloev, but rather popularized in the World Cup circuit. There were other athletes that attempted to jump like that, among those was Jiri Malec seen in the video.
Kazuyoshi Funaki deserved that perfect score. He looked absolutely beautiful in that jump. He also looked like a super hero flying through the sky.
4:58
.... you guys did NOT just add a picture of the Great Pyramid of Giza into the video. Seriously.
Tess Crelli I didn’t even notice that. Bruh
ピタッとそろったスキー板に深い前景、そして安定感抜群のテレマークランディング。
船木のフォームの美しさはピカ一です。
船木選手はルックスも相まって長野五輪のスターだったよね。観客の声援を我がものとしていた船木選手の姿は当時中学生だった自分の脳裏に鮮明に焼きついています😇
당시 초딩 5학년이었던 내가 본 나가노의 후나키는 잊을 수 없는 충격이었음.... 완벽 그 자체..
R.I.P Matti Nykänen 1963-2019
Wedebauss 😭
1:16 "my hat aww" i might cry thats so cute
is nobody gonna talk about that scientist reenactment in 3:50 ?
Mehendi
Perfect representation of how to study the physics of ski jumping. Especially the fan and the chemistry equipment. xD
As a Japanese... those actors are so NOT Japanese. lol
I really wanted to know why they all are wearing safety glasses to do math.
The days of my youth , loved watching ski jumping and Funaki was my all time favourite …
船木のジャンプは全ての面に於いて完璧だった。日本国民の誰もが金メダルを取ると確信していた。
また、団体戦でも船木のジャンプが金メダルをもたらした。まるで奇跡のドラマでも見ているかのようだった。
原田劇場の幕開け。奇跡を演出する原田というムラのあるジャンパーの存在。原田だけに、ハラハラした。
原田の失速。嫌な過去が甦る日本国民。そして大ジャンプ。そして船木が決めた！素晴らしい感動があった。
栄光の影に葛西紀明がいたのである。
@@愛パンダ-e1c その通りですよね
葛西選手だったらヒヤヒヤしなかったかも
船木のジャンプは今、見ても美しい。
thats nearly as far as the pyramids of gaza... wut?
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長野五輪スキージャンプ団体！スポーツで、感動した最高のシーンが
自分にとってはまさにコノシーンです‼️
今から24年前の1998年2月17日このオリンピックにて スキージャンプ団体戦で 日本男子チームは ドラマチックな金メダル🏅を取りました。この次の日の夜中に娘が生まれました。このスキージャンプ団体戦の話しをするたびに うちの妻言わく「私がお腹痛くて苦しんでる時に 病院のベッドの脇のテレビ見て📺両手挙げて喜んでたよね？まったく！」って言われてます（笑）
these guys just naruto down the hill.
Jan Boklov,the Swede,was the first who succeeded with the V-style,he should be entitled as an inventor
船木のフォームは誰よりも美しかった
Am I the only one that thinks the landing could have been marked down at least a tiny bit?
you're not alone!
Arcadian - under modern (2018) standards, Funaki's jump would barely rate 18.5's. Under the standards of 1998 - this jump was unbelievable. It wasn't a case of marking down the landing, it was a case of marveling that the landing was made at all...
Well said!
LOL Bullshit about this being a jump rating 18.5's today. Please. It looks just as remarkable now as it did 20 years ago. And I saw it live on my telly back then. I'll never forget it.
@@Fritha71 How does it matter if you saw it live on your tv?
He wasn't the only Nadia did but in the sport yes
Funaki deserved that medal. Not only is he the winter 'Comaneci', he's also the Male 'Comaneci'. Loved it.
and just his style of jump is u never see this today
Its fun watching this as an Norwegian :)
I remember this and it was incredible!!! You have to be really strong to be able to position yourself that fast
And have some serious balls
very informative and really great execution of displaying the info.
This is actually not 100% truth. Swedish ski jumper Jan Boklöv was the one who invented the V-style and first one using it in international competetions.
PURE162 true
Corneliu Codreanu
>swedes
>white
this video is on the olympics only so....
are you guy ahve problem with listerning ? or your brain just dont work ? they never say japanese invent the v shape lol they just say that some czech ( white ) used it in olympic and he think that it made he fly longer , so some japanese scientic or math guy do the math vv about it and found it true so everyone start to used it
inoue jerry They never say who invented it but it’s wrong to say that Japanese scientists and the czech is a vital part of it. Boklöv was the one who invented it and he flew much further than everyone else and that’s why the scientists even researched it (if they did). (Not because of the Czech)
船木の深い前傾は、その後の選手でも見たことがない。
R.I.P Matti Nykänen
I remember watching Nykanen jumping, if I remember he was only 16 or 18 years old , and the American 'expert' commentators were pointing out all the things he did wrong. and yet he landed 8 meters further than anyone else. If he'd got it right, he would have landed outside the arena. Just goes to show what the American experts know.
If there's one thing I can count on its finding someone coming up with a new ridiculous thing to ridicule anything they can about an American. I'm sure no other experts from any other nationality have ever gotten anything wrong. Nope, couldn't possibly happen.
they'll never be as good as Eddie the eagle
............at plastering.
I met Eddie once so you better watch what you say. He is the nicest guy ever
Ellis Epp krugby
Ellis Epp Rugby
How about Larry Enticer?...
There are many Ski jumpers who had won a gold medal, but there is only one who has his own movie and that's Eddie Edwards. So i think Eddie 'the Eagle' ist the most successful Ski jumper.
Concorde4711 actually matti nykänen has his own film
Mate, Mati (The gold winner from 1988) also had a movie made for him.
why am i crying
ふなきぃぃぃぃいいいいい
今さらですけど完璧です
Ryoyu the new star
lol that scientistd scene is very good
OMG that scientists scene so hillarious :D
WOWOWOWOWOWOHUGE HUGE CROWD
Extraordinary man
Yesterday, Kraft should have got a perfect score. New hill record in Kuusamo with a textbook style and a fascinating telemark. I'm not professional style judge, but I don't understand why all of them gave him 19,5 points each. For me this was most beautiful jump in history, there is no doubt :)
Probably because he didnt made a jump believed to be impossible. What you need to understand is that Picasso isnt the "best", technique wise, cubist to have ever lived, he is the inventor, the first one.
Watch wolfgang loitzl 5x 20 4hills, its on yt. ;)
He should have been 5x20 in Oberstdorf too, at ski flying 2017
The V shape seems obvious as there is more surface area to provide air resistance lift.
throw a dart blindfolded AND hands tied behind the back.........
pun's are bad but logic it aint
Not to mention the inner bullseye is NOT the highest scoring part of the board...it's only worth 50 points. There's a spot above it that's worth 60.
@@samsignorelli it is easier to just say bullseye than triple twenty as "train" is to rail yet we use train as road that dont have rails
but my point is imposable to trow with hands tied behind the back
4:58 The Great Pyramid of Giza.
It should just be the distance. 100m runners don't get judged on their style!!
Dax Moore Fine, then let's talk the field portion of track and field. High jumpers are judged by vertical distance, long jumpers by their horizontal distance, same with javelin/shot put/etc. If it's something which can be objectively measured, there shouldn't be a subjective measure influencing the score.
Sports like ice skating are based on style, not sports where you are trying to go further or quicker than someone else.
1) tradition
2) most importantly, since a pretty Landing requires to exit the aero position earlier, it gives an incentive to safer landings. A distance only based competition would end up on who dares leave the aero position the latest, which opens the door to huge safety concerns. The athletes themselves were recently asked about it and virtually unanimously were agreeing to keep things the way they are since they all know there would be that one random lunatic who would take massive risks and force them to follow.
Furthermore, data shows that, provided you land "properly", distance and style are correlated quantitatively. So ultimately it already comes down to who jumps the farthest, as long as they follow a certain esthetic pattern.
Congratulations 👏
船木の場合は飛型点というよりは芸術点だね！
19.5 for me!
Really genius guys... Showing chemistry lab for physics question.
Finland mentioned lets meet at the marketplace
背景が動いているかのような静止。これは凄い。
Pleasure to watch
You spelled Matti Nykänen wrong.
Give this dude a break, he ain't Finnish
Telemark was more 19.5. Compaire that to the Telemarks of Wolgang Loitzl. He had the best...in my opinion.
Rest in peace Matti :(
matti nykänen was the best ski jumper ever
Is*
Eddie the Eagle*
as a person yes.
@@Valtsuuuoli koska is nykyinen aikamuoto.. was mennyt aikamuoto ja eihän nykänen enää hypänny mäkee vuosi sitte.
Schlierenzauer...?
I always think they're going to crash and then they don't and I'm like "how?!?"
V字が認められてなかったらクラシックスタイルでもっと活躍できる選手がいたでしょうね。
How many times did I held my breath.
日本勢が優勝するとスキー板の長さやウエアに規定つけて白人が有利なルール改正されたんだよね。
Lol, that´s exactly how I imagined japanese scientists. ;)
Coooolll...
is the flailing of the arms on the landing not a draw on the score? I dont know ski jumping
マレックがVジャンプだったとは
確かに見ていたはずなのに気がつかなかった
本動画で初めて知りました
Actually Kazuyoshi Funaki is active player.
Gotta hand it to Jiri, he stuck with the V technique even though he most likely knew judges would give him a lower score even with perfect execution.
Toni Innauer in Innsbruck?
最近は、テレマークが揃わない選手が多い。
もっとテレマークが綺麗な選手が増えて欲しい
is it just me or does the narrator sounds a lot like john boyega??
Why most of the comments are Negative????????
They scammed our Boi Boklöv >:(
R.I.P. Nykänen
Will 20 points be given even with the current scoring?
That would be Olympic ski jumping there have been several perfect scores in gymnastics over the years.
Kept expecting Boyega to start 'Whooping' when they landed...
フライングヒルでも全員満点のジャンプしてたな
Anyone else notice this is John Boyega or 'Finn' from the Star Wars movies narrating this.
Not completely sure, but that would be cool if it was.
3:56 that's how naruto run was created lol
🖤
To be honest he should have 3 of those however the other 2 jumps eve tho they were perfect like this one was for some reason Italian judge would give him 19.5 twice and the other judges all gave him 20s!!!
I like big air do like a dub cork 10 and that will get you a perfect score
v字を思いついたボークレブ選手は偉大ですね。
しかし自分はこれは違反だと思ってた気がします。
Birds have been flying in the V formation for millions of years. Olympic judges: the V formation doesn't make sense. 🤦♂️
ギーゼベッター、ビドヘルツェル、シモンアマン
個人的には彼等の飛型が好きな88歳ジジィ
it sounds like usain bolt commentated
How they show this unperfect landing five times hurts my eyes ngl
ふなき！ ふなき！
I think the landing wasn’t “tick”
Seems like he wobbled a little on the landing
Suomi mainittu "Torilla tavataan"
That's the swede Bokløv that introduced the V style...
the reason hoobastank
1 time at the olypmics, 3 times outside in all competitions. Now that's what you call a rarity.
That is so stupid to judge it on style points
It is said that if you smile while ski jumping you are awarded 5 style points.
And to give it such importance too
Should just be rated based on distance imo. Maybe being stylish even limits how far they can go. However the air is an uncontrollable variable that probably matters a lot and that would reward luck too much.
Agreed. Ski jump is about distance. Although I could understand jumper being docked mark for failing to land properly or posture being out of line.
그는 신인가?
Roses are red
Violets are blue
There’s always an Asian
... come on you already know
Its illustrative but ridiculous way to explain technique of skijumpig, and exclusion of Ian Boklev is elementary fault -he is not mention here, for V technique, but ok if it is used to marked Funaki`s achievement.
How many times exactly japanese solved sport by science?
ชอบๆๆ
That tone of commenting was unnecessary though
Then, everything changed when the Japanese studied the physics behind it. 😏