My Friend ordered his in December , he does a lot of aircraft work and intricate and one of fabrication , We anxiously are awaiting it's arrival . Awesome , Thank You
I am super excited to get one of these. I hope to be at the front of the line! I just ordered the crossfire pro and currently waiting on it to come in. This MR1 is a perfect “at home” mill that will compliment my plasma cutter! When you guys come out with a lathe, I will be solid! Thanks for making such a cool machine at such a great price!
Excellent videos. The ONLY critic I have is always always make EVERY cut a CLIMB CUT. I spent most of my career machining tool steel where this is a requisite.
Agreed! We like to show both ways in videos to demonstrate capability of the machine but exclusive climb cutting is the way to go when you care about tool life.
I'm impressed. I was expecting a much shallower cut. I wish I had an idea that I could use this to make money off of, as a hobbyist, I would have trouble justifying the cost even though it is reasonably priced
Nice machine. I agree with Edwin about Climb Cutting. Finish pass climbing around whole part with 60% feed will yield a mirror like finish. The same chatter could occur on a 40 taper VMC with 10hp spindle . Conventional cutting a finish pass should be Verboten. With aluminum always climbing will prevent material gum up on tool
Cutting area roughly 20*20*6+ adjustments? Man, just priced out what I would go for with accessories is $5254.80 not too bad considering what I spent on the plasma table. Having the enclosure makes it far more tempting to toss the plasma for this on my project builds, if that size can be done with stainless work.
While not completely off the table, it is unlikely that we would release an PDB/ATC enhancement to MR-1. While it could never replace the speed and convenience of a PDB/ATC, the use of the toolsetter does help considerably to reduce chip-to-chip time. Learn more about it here: www.langmuirsystems.com/mr1/build#MR1-SETTER
7:00 Jaws You've really highlighted the machines ability to remove material, can you produce some clips of the MR-1's accuracy on smaller details? Possibly something like engraving? Could you also show some of the MR-1's ability to cut various woods? If it can cut steel it can certainly cut wood, but this may help with advertisements for people who are shopping something like Shapeoko's but can budget for a machine that can do other materials as well. While you may not have the X-Y of those machines, most people are limited on space and having a more expensive machine that can do everything the softer-material-only machine can do would certainly be a selling point.
Would love to see some videos that include tool changes. With no PDB or ATC in the future that's one of my major concerns. Having some kind of quick change mechanism would be great.
Hi Philip. Stay tuned we are releasing a video to show the 'Chip to Chip' tool change time on MR-1 using the tool setter and the included collet wrenches. I think folks will be impressed with how quickly it can be done!
@@LangmuirSystems What size ER collet is on your machine? I can't find that info anywhere or I'm just overlooking it. There are quick change ER systems on the market..
Indexable milling tools have worked great so far for us. We are in the process of a designing a purpose built indexable end mill for MR-1 and it will be offered in the future. It will be 3/4" cutting diameter with 2 cutting inserts that are replaceable.
The reason U got a chatter mark inner that rad is your feed being probably the same feed as the u used on a straight line contour. Maybe ur cnc isn’t equipped with a look ahead on ID rad feature but u can easily fix in the program. Otherwise this machine is good for home hobbyist looking for a cheap and capable machine. I would like one in the future
Very cool and I am tempted.......currently contemplating this vs. a Microproto Taig CNC mill, which is about the same cost, but only 3/4 hp and smaller x/y . I am a little worried about the chips and open ball screws. Can you guys add ball screw covers as an option?
I've seen them say elsewhere that the lead screws all have wipers and covers where they interface (?) so chips can't get into anywhere they can cause issues.
@@ipadize I plan on getting one of these and I will probably just build my own covers and probably an enclosure because even though I like how theirs looks I think I could built my own for far cheaper than $700. That's $700 more I could put towards tooling.
I'm interested to see how it handles tougher materials like copper, stainless steel, titanium, or even nickel-based alloys. Also other processes like high feed milling, boring (with a boring head), and thread milling. High material removal rate looks spectacular but at this price point I think people will value versatility over high productivity. Unfortunately I don't live in any of the countries you currently ship to, or I'd have placed my order already. Still very interested though, I'll be following this closely!
I'd like to see more videos that address the limited Z axis. I look at the 6+2 and start to convince myself it's an issue and I'm not sure it really is. I know it depends on what I want to make, and what tooling I want to use, especially if they want to run this a their only mill
We have a video coming out this week that shows how this is utilized. The max spindle nose to table is actually 9" which means you can be milling as high up as 8.5" from the table if the part is thinner than 3" in the Y direction or else it would hit the gantry beam.
The best place to see that would be to scroll through the features section of our webpage. One of the animations shows the spindle cartridge slid upward in the mount. www.langmuirsystems.com/mr1#features
Indexable milling tools have worked great so far. We are in the process of a designing a purpose built indexable end mill for MR-1 and it will be offered in the future.
Yes absolutely. Countouring and 3D machining are supported on the CutControl software. We have a 3D Surfacing video on our TH-cam channel and the finishing pass on this part was done with a 2D contour tool path.
It's might be costly coz u r burning endmill on this kind of operation it can be cut by inserted endmills also and this carbide end mill can be used for finishing the part but this is also great but economically it's too costly...
Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places, but I couldn’t find the tolerance’s for this machine. Does anyone know what its advertised tolerances are? Also, what is the footprint of the full system with all the upgrades? Thanks, Iz
Any machine will chatter running same size end mill into corners like that. That's the tool,,not the machine. Looks like a rugged little mill there! A bull nose might give you better surface finish on the tops too?
Hello. MR-1 uses open loop steppers. The decision was made not to go through with the added expensive here because the machine just simple doesn't need it. Each axis can transmit 135 lbs of drive force (160lb in Z-axis) and this is more than enough to prevent the machine from stalling. We have been running our machines for 2 years and we have not once had a part scrapped because of missed steps (and that's saying something because we're always pushing the machine to it's limits!)
9:07 there it is finish pass. same path can rough. peoples are blind with CAM. all i see very easy paths no need CAM generate 200000 lines that not with fanuc cnc memory LOL but can hold 300 same parts if program hand lol normal large cnc hand written is bout 1000bytes sometimes 2000bytes small programs are 300-600. fanuc default memory is 256kb maxium programs allowed 400. 1 CAM generated code cant fit on real fanuc machine but hand written one liner makro do same part. before you even draw that part on cam software i allready cutting it. oh yes can run program rs232(transfer error can crash machine) or ethernet(upgrade cost money) i have old 256MB flash card to backup programs. thats 1000 more than default fanuc memory. cost me 5 bucks. OR can buy brand new they cost current day 100 something bcoz they not manufacture that small. only for demand LOL and there is catch card have to be correct. i only had 2 card that actually worked. 1 card i lost and all backups!!! uff like all 15 year designed custom makros do all same that CAM do, but easy one liner makro call
My Friend ordered his in December , he does a lot of aircraft work and intricate and one of fabrication , We anxiously are awaiting it's arrival . Awesome , Thank You
I am super excited to get one of these. I hope to be at the front of the line! I just ordered the crossfire pro and currently waiting on it to come in. This MR1 is a perfect “at home” mill that will compliment my plasma cutter! When you guys come out with a lathe, I will be solid! Thanks for making such a cool machine at such a great price!
Excellent videos. The ONLY critic I have is always always make EVERY cut a CLIMB CUT. I spent most of my career machining tool steel where this is a requisite.
Agreed! We like to show both ways in videos to demonstrate capability of the machine but exclusive climb cutting is the way to go when you care about tool life.
climb cutting is great for a finish pass, but as far as cutting down tool disengagment for roughing, use both. ... time=money.
I'm impressed. I was expecting a much shallower cut. I wish I had an idea that I could use this to make money off of, as a hobbyist, I would have trouble justifying the cost even though it is reasonably priced
Nice machine. I agree with Edwin about Climb Cutting. Finish pass climbing around whole part with 60% feed will yield a mirror like finish. The same chatter could occur on a 40 taper VMC with 10hp spindle . Conventional cutting a finish pass should be Verboten. With aluminum always climbing will prevent material gum up on tool
Cutting area roughly 20*20*6+ adjustments?
Man, just priced out what I would go for with accessories is $5254.80 not too bad considering what I spent on the plasma table. Having the enclosure makes it far more tempting to toss the plasma for this on my project builds, if that size can be done with stainless work.
Use the plasma to make the enclosure
Spindle is double the power of a tormach. It shows.
Would there be any options out there for a quick change tool system?
While not completely off the table, it is unlikely that we would release an PDB/ATC enhancement to MR-1. While it could never replace the speed and convenience of a PDB/ATC, the use of the toolsetter does help considerably to reduce chip-to-chip time. Learn more about it here: www.langmuirsystems.com/mr1/build#MR1-SETTER
@@LangmuirSystems but in theory we could change the spindle to another one right?
@@ipadize theoretically. since the spindle is overdriven by a servo motor belt drive. anything is possible?
7:00 Jaws
You've really highlighted the machines ability to remove material, can you produce some clips of the MR-1's accuracy on smaller details? Possibly something like engraving?
Could you also show some of the MR-1's ability to cut various woods? If it can cut steel it can certainly cut wood, but this may help with advertisements for people who are shopping something like Shapeoko's but can budget for a machine that can do other materials as well. While you may not have the X-Y of those machines, most people are limited on space and having a more expensive machine that can do everything the softer-material-only machine can do would certainly be a selling point.
lol beat me to it
Agreed! Many more videos to come including exactly what you're looking for. Stay tuned!
Would love to see some videos that include tool changes. With no PDB or ATC in the future that's one of my major concerns. Having some kind of quick change mechanism would be great.
Hi Philip. Stay tuned we are releasing a video to show the 'Chip to Chip' tool change time on MR-1 using the tool setter and the included collet wrenches. I think folks will be impressed with how quickly it can be done!
@@LangmuirSystems What size ER collet is on your machine? I can't find that info anywhere or I'm just overlooking it. There are quick change ER systems on the market..
@@davidg4188 Per our spec table it is an ISO ER20 Taper.
Could you try using an indexable 1/2 endmill really interested in how it would perform
I second this motion!
Indexable milling tools have worked great so far for us. We are in the process of a designing a purpose built indexable end mill for MR-1 and it will be offered in the future. It will be 3/4" cutting diameter with 2 cutting inserts that are replaceable.
The reason U got a chatter mark inner that rad is your feed being probably the same feed as the u used on a straight line contour. Maybe ur cnc isn’t equipped with a look ahead on ID rad feature but u can easily fix in the program. Otherwise this machine is good for home hobbyist looking for a cheap and capable machine. I would like one in the future
Think an ATC will be an option down the line?
Very cool and I am tempted.......currently contemplating this vs. a Microproto Taig CNC mill, which is about the same cost, but only 3/4 hp and smaller x/y . I am a little worried about the chips and open ball screws. Can you guys add ball screw covers as an option?
I've seen them say elsewhere that the lead screws all have wipers and covers where they interface (?) so chips can't get into anywhere they can cause issues.
@@bdkj3e while they do have wipers, it is better if they were covered.
@@ipadize I plan on getting one of these and I will probably just build my own covers and probably an enclosure because even though I like how theirs looks I think I could built my own for far cheaper than $700. That's $700 more I could put towards tooling.
@@bdkj3e same , even if it’s just wood plexiglass
I'm interested to see how it handles tougher materials like copper, stainless steel, titanium, or even nickel-based alloys. Also other processes like high feed milling, boring (with a boring head), and thread milling. High material removal rate looks spectacular but at this price point I think people will value versatility over high productivity.
Unfortunately I don't live in any of the countries you currently ship to, or I'd have placed my order already. Still very interested though, I'll be following this closely!
We have many more videos coming that show stainless, titanium, and even hardened steel. Stay tuned!
I'd like to see more videos that address the limited Z axis. I look at the 6+2 and start to convince myself it's an issue and I'm not sure it really is. I know it depends on what I want to make, and what tooling I want to use, especially if they want to run this a their only mill
We have a video coming out this week that shows how this is utilized. The max spindle nose to table is actually 9" which means you can be milling as high up as 8.5" from the table if the part is thinner than 3" in the Y direction or else it would hit the gantry beam.
It's a bit of a bummer and no atc either but with a basic setup at 8-9k it's probably a good investment assuming it does what they say it does
Can you make a video showing the adjustment for the extra 2" in Z travel
The best place to see that would be to scroll through the features section of our webpage. One of the animations shows the spindle cartridge slid upward in the mount. www.langmuirsystems.com/mr1#features
Would love to see this mill run with a kennametal Kor-5 end mill in steel and aluminum
Noticed the ball screws are exposed in the cabinet. Any issues yet with chips getting to them? Also can this spindle do pneumatic quick change
How much travel is in each axis? I cant seem to get an answer?
what size endmill was used in roughing
Is this machine using the normal or the updated X and Y motor drivers?
These are the stock drivers
High feed indexable endmill for roughing would love to see how it runs
Indexable milling tools have worked great so far. We are in the process of a designing a purpose built indexable end mill for MR-1 and it will be offered in the future.
@@LangmuirSystems that sounds exciting cant see what you guys come up with. Any testing with slitting saws?
Danny, what is the weight of the machine without the addition of concrete stabilization. Thanks.
Approximately 450lbs.
whats the peak spindle wattage ?
Can this machine be controlled with Mastercam?
mastercam can probably post for almost every controller out there. Ask a reseller if this controller is supported. :)
Does the software and machine have 3D machining and toolpaths/contouring as an option. All part examples seem to not highlight this.
Yes absolutely. Countouring and 3D machining are supported on the CutControl software. We have a 3D Surfacing video on our TH-cam channel and the finishing pass on this part was done with a 2D contour tool path.
3D probing?
Down the line our software will have funtionality for using the probe as a 'Digitizing Probe'. This could be used for mapping surfaces.
Wow, straight up amazing!
Any plans to make the MR-1 able to mount components to do 3D printing?
ie: filament reel, extruder etc?
Not a good idea. Its slow and bulky compared to a 3D Printer.
Can a 4th axis be added?
Yes please see our FAQ. We will be releasing a 4th axis (or rotary indexer) in the future. It will be backwards compatible.
It's might be costly coz u r burning endmill on this kind of operation it can be cut by inserted endmills also and this carbide end mill can be used for finishing the part but this is also great but economically it's too costly...
I feel like an ATC spindle upgrade for this thing for an extra 2-3K USD would make this machine extremely competitive with Tormach machines.
Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places, but I couldn’t find the tolerance’s for this machine. Does anyone know what its advertised tolerances are?
Also, what is the footprint of the full system with all the upgrades?
Thanks,
Iz
Hello. Check out our specs table on the website and click the first arrow to the right to see the Motion Specs. www.langmuirsystems.com/mr1#specs
Any machine will chatter running same size end mill into corners like that. That's the tool,,not the machine. Looks like a rugged little mill there! A bull nose might give you better surface finish on the tops too?
Cannot find specs on axis motors. Servos or Closed loop steppers?
I here them at the end of the video. Steppers.
Hear
@@woodworkingjourney5864 you can edit your comment iyk
Hello. MR-1 uses open loop steppers. The decision was made not to go through with the added expensive here because the machine just simple doesn't need it. Each axis can transmit 135 lbs of drive force (160lb in Z-axis) and this is more than enough to prevent the machine from stalling. We have been running our machines for 2 years and we have not once had a part scrapped because of missed steps (and that's saying something because we're always pushing the machine to it's limits!)
9:07 there it is finish pass. same path can rough. peoples are blind with CAM. all i see very easy paths no need CAM generate 200000 lines that not with fanuc cnc memory LOL but can hold 300 same parts if program hand lol
normal large cnc hand written is bout 1000bytes sometimes 2000bytes small programs are 300-600. fanuc default memory is 256kb maxium programs allowed 400.
1 CAM generated code cant fit on real fanuc machine but hand written one liner makro do same part. before you even draw that part on cam software i allready cutting it.
oh yes can run program rs232(transfer error can crash machine) or ethernet(upgrade cost money) i have old 256MB flash card to backup programs. thats 1000 more than default fanuc memory. cost me 5 bucks. OR can buy brand new they cost current day 100 something bcoz they not manufacture that small. only for demand LOL and there is catch card have to be correct. i only had 2 card that actually worked. 1 card i lost and all backups!!! uff like all 15 year designed custom makros do all same that CAM do, but easy one liner makro call