Why the Germans were OUTRAGED by Russian Waffen-SS Mass Violence in Warsaw during World War II
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2025
- This video is about Russian collaboration in World War II and focuses on the SS RONA, also known as the Kaminsky Brigade led by Bronislav Kaminsky. This unit's full name later became the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade der SS RONA and later it became known as the 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS RONA (1st Russian). They ruled over the so-called Lokot Autonomy (or Lokot Autonomous Region) which was under control by Konstantin Voskoboynik and after his death Kaminsky rose to power. They unleashed a reign of terror in the Lokot and later helped the Germans with crushing the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. Eventually the unit was merged into the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) under collaborating general Andrey Vlasov. During the Warsaw Uprising the Germans became angry with the conduct of Kaminski's unit. Therefore they took him out. But why were they outraged about this?
History Hustle presents: Why the Germans were OUTRAGED by Russian Waffen-SS Mass Violence in Warsaw during World War II.
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SS-RONA (Kaminsky Brigade):
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- The Unknown Eastern Front. The Wehrmacht and Hitler's Foreign Soldiers (Rolf-Dieter Müller).
- Hitler's Russian & Cossack Allies 1941-45 [Men-at-arms] (Nigel Thomas).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) The Soviet Union (Oleg Beyda and Igor Petrov).
- Russia's War (Richard Overy).
- Rising '44: The Battle for Warsaw (Norman Davies).
- The Forgotten Axis. Germany's Partners and Foreign Volunteers in World War II (J. Lee Ready).
- The Kings and the Pawns: Collaboration in Byelorussia during World War II (Leonid Rein).
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Hey could you cover the Baluch Regiment , It was a distinguished Unit in WW2 and WW1 serving under the British Empire , The Regiment had the honour of first Victoria Cross awarded to a British Indian Army Soldier in WW1 also Its not widely discussed but It was also praised by Paul Von Lettock Vorbeck for Its involement in East Africa During WW1.
The Russians and other eastern nationalities who joined the Germans are a very interesting and tragic story. History is always very complicated. Thank you.
Thanks for replying Joe.
It's been said they had the choice of 'helping' or dying of starvation in the slave labor camps.
See my comment above.
Excellent video as always Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee
When not busy teaching history or visiting the red light district, Stefan also enjoys drinking Grolsch beer, watching Rutger Hauer films, and listening to the music of Golden Earring.
The best underrated history youtuber! Lover your content mate.
Many thanks, feel free to share.
Dirlewanger didn't make it through 2 wars being brave.
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Highly educated and highly perverse
Dirlewanger had some serious PTSD since WWI.
When even the SS say "Cool it", you know it's something grim
Crazy times.
Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS „Handschar“. Ook van die fijne jongens.
Another wonderful historical coverage episode shared by an amazing history Hustle channel and introduced by Sir Stefan 🙏
Thanks! Have a good weekend.
I was already puting a "like" one minute after the start!
You always give us interesting, "off the beaten track" subjects. Thanks, Stefan!
Hey could you cover the Baluch Regiment , It was a distinguished Unit in WW2 and WW1 serving under the British Empire , The Regiment had the honour of first Victoria Cross awarded to a British Indian Army Soldier in WW1 also Its not widely discussed but It was also praised by Paul Von Lettock Vorbeck for Its involement in East Africa During WW1.
Great channel. And I am sure a great teacher. 👍🏻
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Stephan, would love to see your suggested reading list. I’m very interested in memoirs of the everyday soldiers perspective of the European theatre. Thank you! Love the channel!
RONA vs ROA. Shades of Monty Python.
The Germans became less racially conscious as the war turned against them. My father was offered an aryanization certificate by the Germans. He turned it down.
Which country are we talking about?
@@DontKnow-hr5my he is a polac i guess from his name
Ideality and reality
Sir I enjoyed your video lecture immensely. I will await your your next video lecture.
Always funny how "the germans are known for their war crimes", yet no one else.😂😂
To be fair all of those others claim to be German because that’s their goal lol
01:56 any sources on that? Genuinely interested. Did some research from unbiased sources, have found nothing.
Yes, I had this from Spartacus from the WW2 channel. Don't know which video exactly...
De Nazi's hadden een absurd systeem van broeder volken naar untermenschen. De russen kwamen er bekaaid vanaf. Er was wél het Hunger Plan, maar geen plannen om de goodwill van de bevolking te exploiteren, dat ging zoals je zag clandestien. Men dacht in 6 weken klaar te zijn immers.
@@HistoryHustleWell, Spartacus has no sources to back up that particular claim either. It's like, you just have to believe. Very suspicious.
Have you covered the Dutch-Waffen SS??
You bet!
You bet!
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I didn't give this video a down-vote, but I found it a bit difficult to stay engaged. I'll come back, and give ya another go, but I think your style's not a good match for my brain. No biggie! I still wish you all the best!
As one history teacher to another - thanks for an excellent video. I learned much, as usual, from you heartfelt yet objective videos.
Many thanks!!
Kamiński was indeed shot for robbery. There is nothing to suggest that the failures of RONA had an impact on the verdict. Especially since later there were problems with this unit as well. And the commanders were not shot.
Hungarian Army on the Eastern Front also had both combat frontline tasks and rear anti-guerilla policing.
They were involved in up to 5000 civilians mass murder in the Russian Soviet Republic, Smolensk Oblast Province in 1943.
It was not their sin, Horthy decided to join the war. They shouldnt have joined.
Good to know, but still, incomparable with true genocide committed by Ustasha from Croatia.
See:
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@HistoryHustle Thanks, i saw that video, great work, but i think i was protesting already, since i thought that characterizing genocide as mass murder, war crimes etc. was not sufficient enough, and that it was leading to downplaying of its horror and significance.
The term Genocide is legally defined by international law. We can discuss whether this definition makes sense or whether something was genocide (i.e. fell within the scope of the agreed definition or not). However, I do not see the point in your post in which the crimes of the Ustasha become some kind of standard.
To make it more interesting, it is the other way around - it is the policy of the Nazis in the occupied Polish lands that is the source of this concept, as created by its author, Rafal Lemkin.
If we are talking exclusively about the crimes of RONA, it can be argued that they were horrible war crimes but not genocide as their motive was not the destruction of an ethnic group but more primitive impulses.
@@piopTo quote author of video in 0:17 "Nazis... were displeased with Ustashas... violence in Yugoslavia", and continue to narrate that there were other occasion of "displeasement" during the war, that is with RONA - in a sence, puting them in a same cathegory as Ustashe. That, on the one hand, for obvious reason of different level and motives of crimes is not right, and on the other, it downplays as i said horror and significance of genocide that Ustasha committed. To put that in simmilar perspective - you wouldn't say "Nazis committed crimes in Auschwitz and in Brussel during WWII". Technically it's true, but still...
@@ivancertic5197 Of course, it is fine if both acts fall under the same valid and well-described category, even if they differ greatly in other capacities. The idea that "it downplays as I said horror and significance of genocide that Ustasha committed" is absurd and wrong, I reject this type of reasoning, history is not the game of victimhood.
Not to mention that the crimes committed against the civilian population of Warsaw were enormous and horrible, this is not the occupation of Brussel.
Egregious and complicated.
Good you bring things up what people are capable of. History will teach us nothing (Sting), but we must not forget.
History is a reminder, maybe a mirror?
According to Alexandra Richie in her excellent Warsaw 44, the German half of Kaminski was made up to please his masters.
Speaking of collaborators, any local celebrities or public figures on the the list released a few days ago?
Not that I know of.
a lot of Ukrainians were helping Germans in Warsaw in military actions against Polish civilians
Yes, they served in the RONA I believe.
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Very good. Thanks BZ
Till just recently several countries were still lobbying(to no avail) the Germans to stop paying SS members or their survivors, pensions. 2021 they finally released to the Dutch government the names of those still receiving payments.
That is so wrong. I cannot believe they pay those ******* ********. Wow.
@@HandyMan657 Look up HIAG
I didn't know anything about this..!😮
Is it not the case that violence when committed by those 'in the club' is acceptable ... but those merely attached, not so much.
One sees this in 1% Clubs and their affiliates.
The human race is a deeply strange thing 😒
Hi to you Stefan 👍👍
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Great work History hustle.Very credible research
Thanks for watching!
One thing I would like to see investigated is what happened to the ethnic German men living in Poland. I assume that as Polish citizens they would have been drafted into the Polish army. But what happened after the Germans occupied Poland?
Some of them were NKVD double agents as per Abwehr and Fremde Heer Ost.
Nice, maybe an interesting video would be hlinka guard emergency divisions 1944-45?
Perhaps one day, very niche topic actually.
Kaminski... with a POLISH mother and a GERMAN father, that doesn't make him a RUSSIAN ! at the most was he a Soviet !
Wondering if your video here is not politically motivated by current geopolitical events ... 🤔
I think he identified himself as Russian, also his unit was named 'Russian'.
kaminski brigade was made up of east slavs!
@@HistoryHustle извините, но он мог себя назвать хоть папуасом или инопланетянином, но он не русский, Власов был русским, к сожалению он мой земляк, он родился в соседней деревне, что и мои предки
Stefan once again you have widened my knowledge on important details that give light between these two countries!✌🏻🫶🏻
Wermaht killed 20 000 civilians in Wola massacre. In a single day.
Incredibly brutal. Although most units involved in Wola were SS, not Wehrmacht.
Jeez thanks bro. many details I never ever heard about. Think I have to reread all my stuff on the warsaw uprising.
Thanks for watching!
next Serbian Ljotićevci
Stahell Luftwaffe General. Had past in Von der Goldiz east sea division.1918 he d-day Finland and drove Red rebellion supported by red troyka out of Finland.
He stayed in F. Took passport too. (Baltic Iron division? 1920’s??) back Reich 1930’s out infantry and Luftwaffe.. soviet-ger secret armament…
They made their bed now they lie in it
The pot calling the kettle black
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SS RONA leader - Bronislaw Kaminski was a Polish Nazi-collaborator, not Russian.
Каминский был советским гражданином и русским национал-социалистом. У него никогда не было польского гражданства.
Half Polish half German leading a unit he named Russian though.
And get a pretty uniform.
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Thanks Stef for another excellent piece of work.I know a lot is written of Andrej Vlasov, how many Soviet generals defected to the Germans? Also , as an Irishman, I'd love to see you cover the IRA working with the Germans
Russians, Ukrainians and Azeris.
The Azeri collaborators committed crimes too in Warsaw yes.
The lesser of two evils
❤τοσοι φανταροι χρησιμοποιηθηκα τοσω σπερμα που θαδινε μωρα και χαρα στους δυο γονεις απο την νηφη και τον γαμπρο..κιομως σκοτωθηκαν😮😮😮
Huh??
This is a tno portrait lmao
@@SteamyShukshee tno?
Russian or rather Ukrainian Waffen-SS?
Ukrainians were in their midst although they served in other units.
Russian like wlassovs unit