This board looks really great. What is new for 2022 in the Starboard wing foil range? Is this a board you want or are going to buy? Let me know what you think!
Great content. Love your channel. Appreciate your advice. Question why 2022 Starboard has so much volume on the tail where it is above waterline, not helping.
Hey Chuck. Thanks for watching! 😃 Great. Hope you have some good use of the content! The volume in the tail is there to help float the board. When you are standing on the board. The tail is lower and supports the board well. I had the chance to do my first session with t his board the day before yesterday and it was easy and very stable. I will get back with another video after a few sessions on water. Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca I watched your video again and heard you say something like "Bouancy away from the standing area." Guess it balances the bow bouancy while keeping the standing area thinner, so the feet are lower.
@@wingfoil_mallorca I live in USA and mostly ride Pleasantville Lakes Bay which is behind Atlantic City, New Jersey. It's a great wide bay used by windsurfers and kiteboarders. Flat water, until it hits 25knots, and we get some chop for jumping. I'm 67, so more focused on cruising, making turns, and I hope to get back on the ocean and ride soft waves someday. There are some inlets nearby with sandbars and wrap around waves that look possible. I'm barely foiling, so much to learn. I ride a crossover board, Fanatic Bee and my next board will be a shorter, foil only board.
@@chuckscheaffer4694 Hey, sounds great. You have a good spot for learning. That is an advantage! A smaller board will be more fun and of course easier to manoeuvre. You will advance faster. It’s the way most riders progress. Have fun and happy holidays!
I have a Starboard foil with the S type 2400 front wing ,which I am using with a 6’6” wing board ,and this combo has started to get me foiling,amazing feeling ! Fredric do you think I would need the S type 2000 front wing for the smaller Starboard 5’2” board or similar .The 2400 is very powerful,and my front foot is at the front of the deck pad on my bigger board.I am about 80kg,and riding in gusty 14-24 knot lake conditions.Really enjoying your coaching & it has inspired me to keep practising,thanks …Greg & Sue
Hey Sue, thanks a lot! 😃 I'm happy you've gotten some value out of the videos!! The matter of the lift of the wing also depends on where you position the mast! Further back, the foils upward push decreases. I am sure you can ride with the 2400 and a smaller board. You just have to find the right spot where to put the mast. Also, take into consideration when your skills improve, you can get by with a smaller front wing. If you know how to pump the wing, you compensate for less lift of a smaller front wing by getting more speed to engage the foil. If you are interested in a smaller board, that says to me you are improving. And you will be fine to go down a size or two on your front wing. Good advice is to hold on to the 2400 for days with less wind...Hope this answers your question. If you have any questions, I'm happy to help! Stay safe and enjoy! Remember, wing foil is not always easy, but it is always fun! ;-)
Hey, you’re a long way away. Summer now and all. Sweet! Yeah, give wing foil a try with own gear. It has a few advantages to add to your kiting. As we can ride in any winds! I must mention that it’s a lot of fun as well. I haven’t been back to Oz since -88. Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Wow '88 that's long time. I mainly ride in local Melbourne beaches. I have had a few wing sessions now and it's definitely great fun, I agree.
@@wingfoil_mallorca A thought regarding the waist leash being connected to the front of the board, I think it's a good option as it may reduce the chances of sitting on the leash when getting back on the board or having the leash tangle around your leg as you get back on the board too. But I'm no expert!
Hey Richard, it is!! The bigger board will make it easier for you learning. But if you have previous knowledge from kite or windsurfing you can go smaller. Best is to start learning to navigate the wing and a sup board or a windsurf board with a dagger fin. When you can navigate and go upwind comfortably you can move over to the foil board. It is good to remember to only change one thing at the time. Good luck and let me know how you progress! Thanks for watching!! 🤙
Thanks Dan! Can’t say anything about the Gong. I had a first session on the new Starboard day before yesterday. Coming from a 5’,8” I thought it would be a bit wobbly. But not at all. Very steady and the deck pad is just perfect. Good grip and a great feel. Also the board comes really fast out of the water. It’s really a good improvement over last year. I must say. If your local surf shop and friends have the boards, try them both. But I my world I have a hard time thinking the Gong will Stand up against the Starboard.
Great videos What size would you recommend for a beginner at 75kg and 50 years of age. Also have 30 years surfing and intermediate windsurfing. Was thinking the 100L vs 90L. Thanks!
Hi Neil, with your background you have an advantage. But still is a challenge to get it right in the beginning. The bigger you go the faster you will be up on foil. But at the same time you will eventually want to go smaller when you have progressed a bit. And then you want to change board. So if you want to fly within a week go for the bigger. If you have a bit of patience, go for the smaller. And that board will also last you longer. As I am 75 kg and are riding a 90L board, here are a few things to consider. The foil weighs, your wet wetsuit, helmet and vest and so on. Everything eats in to the litres of your margin of the board. For me a 90L board in the winter has very few litres above my total weight to keep me floating. It's better in the summer without the thicker wetsuits. I am thinking of getting a 95L size board next time. Many people want as small as possible. But that depends on the conditions where you rider if you have enough strong wind a lot of days or not. And what exites you as well. Riding waves, freestyle and so on. Where will you be riding?
@@wingfoil_mallorca thanks for the feedback Frederic. I will be riding in New York on the Hudson River and Long Island beaches. Likely 6-12 knots initially. Expecting some truly light wind conditions often as well. Plan to use the heavy wetsuits to ride in the winter etc.
@@Liennomis Your welcome! What a cool place to be wing foiling! :-) Light wind conditions puts even more emphasis on bigger material. The foil, wing and board...
Hola Frederic, just been with some guys and they were saying that people are leashing the wing to the front leash point and thats it. Nothing connected between you and the wing or board, just those two connected. Sounds like a good idea, but would like to see it in practice.
Hey Dan, I'm not sure I understand completely. The wing to the front attachment point on the board and the board leash go where? Fill me in some more, please! 😃
@@wingfoil_mallorca Certainly Frederic, just the wing and board attached to each other by one leash. So front of board to wing directly. Rider without any leash, so has freedom of movement. So from your wing leash directly to that front leash point as the leading edge is always pointing forward the leash is always in front of you connected directly to the board as well at the front. So when you fall in, board and wing are directly connected and you are free of all lines. Not sure what length of leash would work, in theory sounds ok??
@@wildhogget69 Ok, Dan. I understand. To have the wing connected to the board would require a long leash. Maybe even be in your face when riding… I can see the benefits of having the board leash to the front position as it it in front of you. If you have both leashes to the front and no one to the rider. How would one recover the board and or wing when you fall in a windy sea if you have no leash to your body?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Coming from a windsurfing background, we never use a leash but obviously the sail is connected to the board by a mastfoot so the two stay together. So I guess the same concept?
I would not recommend the setup where you have no leash attached to the rider. Simply because the wing will/could blow away and the board could leave you depending on the wind, waves and so on. I know some riders have tested and swears by that you don't need a leash. But in my experience, I would not do it. One time my leash to the wing came undone, and it resulted in the wing blowing all the way back to shore and I had to swim back. I you try it I'm eager to hear your experience....Stay safe, Dan!
Will you be reviewing the new 2022 Take Off Starboard as well ? I’m interested in purchasing the new Wingboard 7’0/145L in Litetech or the Take Off 6’4”/130L in litetech. I’m a senior and want something that is stable to learn how to foil using the wing.
Hi Vincent. Yes, I will make a review of the Take Off when I can get my hands on one! If you are getting into wing foiling it is a good way to start with a board that is stable and floats well. Will get you started so much easier. If you have watched my video "How much can you learn in a year" you know I started with a 7´,2" and 125l. And I'm only 75 kilos. But the reward was I was up standing on the board really fast and flying not long after. So it is the best way to learn how to wing foil. Good luck and stay safe!
Thanks for the advice on the bigger board. We are waiting for the Starboard container here in St Pete, Fla. I would like to try the 6’4” Take Off and the 7’ Wingboard before deciding.
@@vhb4302 yes! That’s the way to go. You will quite fast get the feel for which board is right for you. The Takeoff sounds really interesting, but mostly if you really are going for SUP foil. If you are mostly doing wingfoil I still think the wing board is hard to beat! Love to hear your impressions when you had a go at them. Stay safe!
@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks Fredric - I have watched all your videos very helpful as a beginner 🙏. My only purpose will be Winging. My weight is also 75KG and would like to use the board for my first full year of winging.
Hey again Victor, Yes it can works for SUP foil. Actually I have on my schedule for the coming week to test it out for just that. However, it is short and wide so it is probably not the best board for SUP foil. There is also the Take-Off board from Starboard to look at. The Take-Off has a better bottom shape for wing foil and SUP foil. Ideally, 6´to-6´,4" x 25 would probably be really great measurements for SUP foil. But as we rarely have a lot of different boards, I would say you probably be better off with the Take Off if you want to do both! Hope my answer helped you out a bit. Stay safe! Do you ride in Denmark?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks for the detailed reply. I think I will stick with the wing board considering my main focus will be wing foiling, but thanks for the advice. And yes I ride on the east coast of Denmark, which means that there aren’t many waves to sup foil/ sup surf.
@@victorbmadslund That was my choice as well. I do mainly wing foil and a dedicated board will serve us better in my opinion. Stay safe! Are you still riding now in winter or are you waiting for spring?
@@wingfoil_mallorca I am first of all gonna have to wait for my board to arrive, but as soon as it does and I get the rest of my gear as well I am going to start. What foil and wing would you recommend for a beginner without the biggest budget?
Hey, thanks for watching. The volume depends on your level and the conditions you have where you ride! I'm 75kg and ride the 90L. So I wouldn't recommend you going bigger than that. So if you go for 90L you will be outstanding! Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Okay perfect. Even though I’m a beginner I also think that the 90l would suit me because of my size. I’m from Denmark, and looking forward to some better weather to get started. Can you do any sort of sup foiling on this board?
@@victorbmadslund Nice! I am in contact with another Dane from Aarhus, don’t know if you are close to him? I answered your question about SUP foil in your other question. Did you see it? Stay safe!
This board looks really great. What is new for 2022 in the Starboard wing foil range? Is this a board you want or are going to buy? Let me know what you think!
Can you review the new takeoff board especially in sup foil for beginners?
Hey Yoshi, Yes, if i can get my hands on one i will ;-) We are still waiting for more models to come here.
Great content. Love your channel. Appreciate your advice. Question why 2022 Starboard has so much volume on the tail where it is above waterline, not helping.
Hey Chuck. Thanks for watching! 😃 Great. Hope you have some good use of the content! The volume in the tail is there to help float the board. When you are standing on the board. The tail is lower and supports the board well. I had the chance to do my first session with t his board the day before yesterday and it was easy and very stable. I will get back with another video after a few sessions on water. Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca I watched your video again and heard you say something like "Bouancy away from the standing area." Guess it balances the bow bouancy while keeping the standing area thinner, so the feet are lower.
@@chuckscheaffer4694 Exactly right! 👍
@@wingfoil_mallorca I live in USA and mostly ride Pleasantville Lakes Bay which is behind Atlantic City, New Jersey. It's a great wide bay used by windsurfers and kiteboarders. Flat water, until it hits 25knots, and we get some chop for jumping. I'm 67, so more focused on cruising, making turns, and I hope to get back on the ocean and ride soft waves someday. There are some inlets nearby with sandbars and wrap around waves that look possible. I'm barely foiling, so much to learn. I ride a crossover board, Fanatic Bee and my next board will be a shorter, foil only board.
@@chuckscheaffer4694 Hey, sounds great. You have a good spot for learning. That is an advantage! A smaller board will be more fun and of course easier to manoeuvre. You will advance faster. It’s the way most riders progress. Have fun and happy holidays!
I have a Starboard foil with the S type 2400 front wing ,which I am using with a 6’6” wing board ,and this combo has started to get me foiling,amazing feeling ! Fredric do you think I would need the S type 2000 front wing for the smaller Starboard 5’2” board or similar .The 2400 is very powerful,and my front foot is at the front of the deck pad on my bigger board.I am about 80kg,and riding in gusty 14-24 knot lake conditions.Really enjoying your coaching & it has inspired me to keep practising,thanks …Greg & Sue
Hey Sue, thanks a lot! 😃 I'm happy you've gotten some value out of the videos!! The matter of the lift of the wing also depends on where you position the mast! Further back, the foils upward push decreases. I am sure you can ride with the 2400 and a smaller board. You just have to find the right spot where to put the mast. Also, take into consideration when your skills improve, you can get by with a smaller front wing. If you know how to pump the wing, you compensate for less lift of a smaller front wing by getting more speed to engage the foil. If you are interested in a smaller board, that says to me you are improving. And you will be fine to go down a size or two on your front wing. Good advice is to hold on to the 2400 for days with less wind...Hope this answers your question. If you have any questions, I'm happy to help! Stay safe and enjoy! Remember, wing foil is not always easy, but it is always fun! ;-)
Hi. Excellent review thanks for making it. Regards.
Hey, you're welcome! What do you ride and where?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Hi. Mostly kite foiling using a range of Sabfoil products in Australia, and now looking for a wing board.
Hey, you’re a long way away. Summer now and all. Sweet! Yeah, give wing foil a try with own gear. It has a few advantages to add to your kiting. As we can ride in any winds! I must mention that it’s a lot of fun as well. I haven’t been back to Oz since -88. Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Wow '88 that's long time. I mainly ride in local Melbourne beaches. I have had a few wing sessions now and it's definitely great fun, I agree.
@@wingfoil_mallorca A thought regarding the waist leash being connected to the front of the board, I think it's a good option as it may reduce the chances of sitting on the leash when getting back on the board or having the leash tangle around your leg as you get back on the board too. But I'm no expert!
I am a 240lb beginner. I'm looking at the 6'4 or 7' Take Off for SUP foiling in the waves and wing foiling. Looks like a lot of board for the money.
Hey Richard, it is!! The bigger board will make it easier for you learning. But if you have previous knowledge from kite or windsurfing you can go smaller. Best is to start learning to navigate the wing and a sup board or a windsurf board with a dagger fin. When you can navigate and go upwind comfortably you can move over to the foil board. It is good to remember to only change one thing at the time. Good luck and let me know how you progress! Thanks for watching!! 🤙
Oooohhh very nice, now I am torn between the Gong Mint 5'2" and the Starboard 5'2" for my next board. What size are you going for Fredric?
Thanks Dan! Can’t say anything about the Gong. I had a first session on the new Starboard day before yesterday. Coming from a 5’,8” I thought it would be a bit wobbly. But not at all. Very steady and the deck pad is just perfect. Good grip and a great feel. Also the board comes really fast out of the water. It’s really a good improvement over last year. I must say. If your local surf shop and friends have the boards, try them both. But I my world I have a hard time thinking the Gong will Stand up against the Starboard.
Great videos What size would you recommend for a beginner at 75kg and 50 years of age. Also have 30 years surfing and intermediate windsurfing. Was thinking the 100L vs 90L. Thanks!
Hi Neil, with your background you have an advantage. But still is a challenge to get it right in the beginning. The bigger you go the faster you will be up on foil. But at the same time you will eventually want to go smaller when you have progressed a bit. And then you want to change board. So if you want to fly within a week go for the bigger. If you have a bit of patience, go for the smaller. And that board will also last you longer. As I am 75 kg and are riding a 90L board, here are a few things to consider. The foil weighs, your wet wetsuit, helmet and vest and so on. Everything eats in to the litres of your margin of the board. For me a 90L board in the winter has very few litres above my total weight to keep me floating. It's better in the summer without the thicker wetsuits. I am thinking of getting a 95L size board next time. Many people want as small as possible. But that depends on the conditions where you rider if you have enough strong wind a lot of days or not. And what exites you as well. Riding waves, freestyle and so on. Where will you be riding?
@@wingfoil_mallorca thanks for the feedback Frederic. I will be riding in New York on the Hudson River and Long Island beaches. Likely 6-12 knots initially. Expecting some truly light wind conditions often as well. Plan to use the heavy wetsuits to ride in the winter etc.
@@Liennomis Your welcome! What a cool place to be wing foiling! :-) Light wind conditions puts even more emphasis on bigger material. The foil, wing and board...
Now, I want to buy Starboard!! 😭
Yes, it's a great board! They know their stuff!!!! ;-)
Hola Frederic, just been with some guys and they were saying that people are leashing the wing to the front leash point and thats it. Nothing connected between you and the wing or board, just those two connected. Sounds like a good idea, but would like to see it in practice.
Hey Dan, I'm not sure I understand completely. The wing to the front attachment point on the board and the board leash go where? Fill me in some more, please! 😃
@@wingfoil_mallorca Certainly Frederic, just the wing and board attached to each other by one leash. So front of board to wing directly. Rider without any leash, so has freedom of movement. So from your wing leash directly to that front leash point as the leading edge is always pointing forward the leash is always in front of you connected directly to the board as well at the front. So when you fall in, board and wing are directly connected and you are free of all lines. Not sure what length of leash would work, in theory sounds ok??
@@wildhogget69 Ok, Dan. I understand. To have the wing connected to the board would require a long leash. Maybe even be in your face when riding… I can see the benefits of having the board leash to the front position as it it in front of you. If you have both leashes to the front and no one to the rider. How would one recover the board and or wing when you fall in a windy sea if you have no leash to your body?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Coming from a windsurfing background, we never use a leash but obviously the sail is connected to the board by a mastfoot so the two stay together. So I guess the same concept?
I would not recommend the setup where you have no leash attached to the rider. Simply because the wing will/could blow away and the board could leave you depending on the wind, waves and so on. I know some riders have tested and swears by that you don't need a leash. But in my experience, I would not do it. One time my leash to the wing came undone, and it resulted in the wing blowing all the way back to shore and I had to swim back. I you try it I'm eager to hear your experience....Stay safe, Dan!
Will you be reviewing the new 2022 Take Off Starboard as well ? I’m interested in purchasing the new Wingboard 7’0/145L in Litetech or the Take Off 6’4”/130L in litetech. I’m a senior and want something that is stable to learn how to foil using the wing.
Hi Vincent. Yes, I will make a review of the Take Off when I can get my hands on one! If you are getting into wing foiling it is a good way to start with a board that is stable and floats well. Will get you started so much easier. If you have watched my video "How much can you learn in a year" you know I started with a 7´,2" and 125l. And I'm only 75 kilos. But the reward was I was up standing on the board really fast and flying not long after. So it is the best way to learn how to wing foil. Good luck and stay safe!
Thanks for the advice on the bigger board. We are waiting for the Starboard container here in St Pete, Fla. I would like to try the 6’4” Take Off and the 7’ Wingboard before deciding.
@@vhb4302 yes! That’s the way to go. You will quite fast get the feel for which board is right for you. The Takeoff sounds really interesting, but mostly if you really are going for SUP foil. If you are mostly doing wingfoil I still think the wing board is hard to beat! Love to hear your impressions when you had a go at them. Stay safe!
@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks Fredric - I have watched all your videos very helpful as a beginner 🙏. My only purpose will be Winging. My weight is also 75KG and would like to use the board for my first full year of winging.
Can this board be used for other foil activities? Such as sup foil?
Hey again Victor, Yes it can works for SUP foil. Actually I have on my schedule for the coming week to test it out for just that. However, it is short and wide so it is probably not the best board for SUP foil. There is also the Take-Off board from Starboard to look at. The Take-Off has a better bottom shape for wing foil and SUP foil. Ideally, 6´to-6´,4" x 25 would probably be really great measurements for SUP foil. But as we rarely have a lot of different boards, I would say you probably be better off with the Take Off if you want to do both! Hope my answer helped you out a bit. Stay safe! Do you ride in Denmark?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks for the detailed reply. I think I will stick with the wing board considering my main focus will be wing foiling, but thanks for the advice. And yes I ride on the east coast of Denmark, which means that there aren’t many waves to sup foil/ sup surf.
@@victorbmadslund That was my choice as well. I do mainly wing foil and a dedicated board will serve us better in my opinion. Stay safe! Are you still riding now in winter or are you waiting for spring?
@@wingfoil_mallorca I am first of all gonna have to wait for my board to arrive, but as soon as it does and I get the rest of my gear as well I am going to start. What foil and wing would you recommend for a beginner without the biggest budget?
I am a beginner wing foiler but I have surf experience. I weigh around 62kg, would you recommend the 100l or the 90l?
Hey, thanks for watching. The volume depends on your level and the conditions you have where you ride! I'm 75kg and ride the 90L. So I wouldn't recommend you going bigger than that. So if you go for 90L you will be outstanding! Where do you ride?
@@wingfoil_mallorca Okay perfect. Even though I’m a beginner I also think that the 90l would suit me because of my size. I’m from Denmark, and looking forward to some better weather to get started. Can you do any sort of sup foiling on this board?
@@victorbmadslund Nice! I am in contact with another Dane from Aarhus, don’t know if you are close to him? I answered your question about SUP foil in your other question. Did you see it? Stay safe!