Nihilism | Encounter with Nothingness
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- Nothingness is generally considered to be analogous with death and extinction which every healthy living instinct wants to avoid. Many find the notion of nothingness unfathomable.
Japanese philosopher Keiji Nishitani, however, was convinced that the way out of nihilism, that which renders meaningless the meaning of life, could only be reached by gazing into the abyss itself.
Nishitani understands human existence as consisting in three fields: consciousness, nihility and emptiness. Nihility is as part of the fabric of reality as Being is, it is relative nothingness, and emptiness is absolute nothingness, where the “absolute negation” as the negation of negation becomes the “great affirmation”.
In the openness of śūnyatā realised by nihility overcoming itself, one completely oversteps the confines of self-consciousness and comes to be free of egocentrism, anthropocentrism and even theocentrism, thus allowing ultimate reality to manifest itself in all its fullness.
We will be focusing on two important works of Nishitani: The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism and Religion and Nothingness.
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- Nishitani, K. (1990). The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism. Translated by Graham Parkes with Setsuko Aihara.
- Nishitani, K. (1982). Religion and Nothingness. Translated with an introduction by Jan Van Bragt.
- Phillips, S. H. (1987). Nishitani's Buddhist Response to "Nihilism". Journal of the American Academy of Religion, 55(1), 75-104.
- Bragt, J.V. (1987). Religion and Science in Nishitani Keiji. In Zen Buddhism Today: Annual Report of the Kyoto Zen Symposium (No. 5-8, p. 161). Kyoto Seminar for Religious Philosophie.
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- Heisig, J. W. (2001). Philosophers of nothingness. University of Hawaii Press.
- Parkes, G. (2015). Nishitani on Practicing Philosophy as a Matter of Life and Death.
- Balogh, L. (2020). Nothingness, the Self, and the Meaning of Life: Nishida, Nishitani, and Japanese Psychotherapeutic Approaches to the Challenge of Nihilism. Journal of Philosophy of Life, 10(1), 98-119.
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⌛ Timestamps
(0:00) Introduction: Keiji Nishitani
(4:24) The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism
(8:12) Religion and Nothingness
(14:36) Consciousness, Nihility, Emptiness
(19:13) Cosmic Individual
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Interesting! I seem to recall Nishitani wrote in-depth about Zen Master Dogen's Shobogenzo.
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I came to this conclusion when I was a child in an abusive home. What is equal to and opposite of life? Answer: Nothingness
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“Think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life. Now, take what's left and live it properly. What doesn't transmit light creates its own darkness.”-- Marcus Aurelius
?? who is it that would be thinking of themselves as dead? That would be reinforcing a belief that there is a someone that can die. No one was born, no one dies. There is just emptiness.
@@williamcallahan5218 ive actually naturally found myself telling my ex girlfriend "im already dead". im more aware of the statement and its harder to believe. i havent been practicing the perspective much but im feeling it take over again and i now feel like im already dead. The way i'd describe it is to moment between now and the day I die feels like it will all happened all at once. I feel time, it feels slow what i think of the future but it feels like an illusion when i think of the past. So i know that by the time I die, everything ive experiences will feel like an illusion and the more I dwell on that the more the future also just seems like an illusion. To me time doesnt seem real anymore, it seems like everything happens all at once, but there is an illusion of time that while in this dimension, or realm or body that i am forced to be in are like lines of code that we cannot comprehend. But I think all life suffers from this, ive noticed us humans tend to say this is just a human thing since we've evolved to be able to express it, but only to each other. I think all living things experience this. Anything that plays a role in life and seems to have a purpose in these lines of code. code is just my way of understanding it tho. Ego is code, time is code, evolution is code, physics is code, the butterfly effect is code, fibinatchi sequence is code. When I seek answers from the external world I realize i am seeking answers from the "code of the universe". When I seek answers from within myself, I havent yet comprehended that. But the way I see it is it's disorganized chaos that seems un approachable. It's like fear incarnated, but one of the fears I have is it's still just code. I am code and the decisions I make are fruitless and my history is already written out.
Ive mostly just been my ego for the past few months, i feel like i should stabilize. But im slowly falling back into the same patterns of getting tired of following the code and wanting to resist it and I miss being nihilistic, either way im so self aware, any path i choose feels meaningless. With everything being stripped of so much meaning, i might as well already consider myself dead. If you havent noticed, no one can kill themselves with nothing. You control your body just to an extent to survive and communicate. the body also controls it's self, we are so comfortable with our body most of it is unconscious or something else entirely. The function of any living things "body" weather it be a plant, human or any animal you can think of, on a macro or micro level, is still cultivating its own ecosystem and are manifestations of code that we accept, because if we reject it we die.
I was running once and noticed my body naturally followed a breathing pattern, synchronizing with itt makes running a pleasure, it makes it feel harmonic in a way. But Ive tried controlling my breathing, i followed a slow pattern of breathing and i could feel my heart beating way faster than it should've and when it started to feel critical its like my body kicked me out of the drivers seat and regulated my breathing back to the desired pattern. Now once you realize your thoughts are the same way, when you understand how neuropathways work, you start to really question what the fuck you do have control over, everything again starts to feel meaningless and you start to loose what the definition of "making a decision" genuinely means. The soul searches for meaning, you can find it internally or externally, you realize there's a paradox in your head, i call them voids, meaningless pits of nothingness that cant be understood or filled. For example, my ex who i found so much meaning in but is now non existent in my life, and I have so much to feel responsible for, i fill those voids with memories of her until i've been given a physical answer. And trying to understand thoes voids seem genuinely impossible, they're the scariest and most painful things, but i genuinely believe focusing on them and stepping into that void will manifest the code (the answer) to the why, and it feels like death.
“Rehearse your death every morning and night. Only when you constantly live as though already a corpse (jōjū shinimi) will you be able to find freedom in the martial Way, and fulfill your duties without fault throughout your life.” - Hagakure
This is beautiful! Thank you for sharing
The answer is to live through the whole of nihilism. To surrender the self to the harsh truths of reality and come out the other side resurrected. Indeed. The only way to overcome nihilism is to surrender to it completely. To integrate it as you would integrate your shadow.
Let the existential dread wash over you. Let it crush you. Let it break your heart. Then take your brokenness and put it back together into something stronger, something that can seek, or even better, create meaning despite meaninglessness. This way you are no longer under any delusions of grandeur, or placating sentimentalities. You are, instead, soul-sharpened, resilient, and robust-a force of nature to be reckoned with.
It's like taking the concept of succeeding by failing to the next level. It's a really good concept of overcoming the dreadful face of reality presented upon us by the very people who constructed this reality- us ourselves. It is, indeed, tantamount to break free the stigma that has been holding us for a very long time which is the chains of “conforming to society.” It is only when we hold the reins for ourselves will we become the man-God, the ultimate individualist. But then again, does everybody really strive to be a man-God? or is it a fact alone that the ultimate truth of most people is to “conform” and the individualists are just unorthodoxical? Is there really a lie that's hiding? or maybe even the concept of nihilism is one that's driven by egocentric pursuits which becomes a complete irony. I cannot know.
Greetings,
Just, summarizing everything after my almost 5 decades of life in this vibration of this universe within multiuniverses:
1) *what moves your faith or spirituality?*
2) *Do you, in your life, need thought or some material object, ready-made prayer, etc., tied to dogmas to live?*
3) *believes in one and only life?*
4) *Do you believe in magic, occultism and gods, pantheons, paganisms or are they just manifested subconscious archetypes and shaped energies?*
5) *Do you believe that every spoken verb becomes creation without any ADDITIONAL help from spirituality and materiality beyond you?*
*THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, IF YOU CAN ANSWER ME, SHOW OR PROVE TO ME AND KINDLY SPEND YOUR PRECIOUS TIME WITH ME DOING THIS.*
*You can at least do this courtesy too 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻🙏?*
@@vulpritprooze I think Fyodor Dostoevsky said it best:
"The whole work of man really seems to consist in nothing but proving to himself every minute that he is a man and not a piano key."
It is in our nature to push for individuality. Given a utopia, we are prone to eventual folly. Such that you cannot contain entropy, you cannot contain human nature.
So yes, we all do strive to be a "man-God", though most are not conscious of it. The sooner we are all aware of this drive within us, the better it will be for society. Until then, all of the winding is just egocentrism, people that are lost and in conflict with society trying to find their way
Well said
Nihilism, and this concept of overcoming nihilism by embracing it, is the ultimate ideology for producing cowardly, lazy, self-centered, moral pacifists.
It says:
"Upset by war? Ignore it, nothing truly matters.
Upset by poverty? Ignore it, nothing truly matters.
Upset by corruption in politics? Ignore it, nothing truly matters.
You have no moral responsibility to anything because nothing truly matters. You create your own meaning."
The truth is this:
YOU DO NOT CREATE MEANING. You create your purpose. BIG difference.
You can have some influence over what some things mean, some of the time.
But some things have a particular meaning regardless of what you choose to think about it.
Physical pain has negative meaning - hold your hand to a hot stove and tell me you get to choose what it means to you. You can't.
Conscious beings suffering has negative meaning. Conscious beings joy has positive meaning. Period.
To deny this and embrace a nihilistic philosophy is to embrace a false delusion.
The answer is this:
Accept what things mean, and then choose your purpose.
Once you understand something emotionally, you no longer have to continue to respond to it emotionally.
You can respond to it intellectually.
You no longer need to choose between getting upset by bad things or ignoring them.
You can acknowledge their existence and then plan what you're going to do about it.
"If you forget yourself, you become the universe."
But does this mean you are no longer you?
@@mountainjayyou are the universe. The two are one.
@@SuperSavagebliss how so? I can't read your mind right now, and you can't read my mind, but if we are both the universe, we should be able to read each other's minds. Part of what makes me, me is my separateness. So I'm not sure what you're saying.
@@mountainjay That's it, the nature of that is paradoxical. You find it in daoism and buddhism for instance. We're at the same time unique individuals which are connected with the whole universe on a deeper level. It's very hard to grasp with analytical mind, it's better to experience that. That's what religion was about.
@@czowiekpierwotny2160 I understand, but this still would mean tha you are no longer you to a huge degree when you are no longer separate
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Thank you so much. You are a big influence on me making this video!
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I am in the midst of a nihilistic journey. To see the world as a grain of sand. Yet still find enjoyment at the beach. The meaning of life is simply to be alive. Accept life as an expression of infinite creation. This video gives me much to contemplate. It seems to me the bottom line is "having received a human life, do not waste the passing moments." But what is a worthy expenditure of infinite creation? Service. Pleasure. Nothingness. Nothing matters, no one cares, do what you like!
I've struggled with existentialism and nihilism for most of my adult life, and being 28 now has made it much harder to cope with but this video gave me a lot to think about. Even last night I was getting ready for bed but ended up standing in the kitchen doing nothing in the dark for 20 minutes just thinking. The crushing nothingness has rendered me useless some days, but I'm glad I now have some perspective to work with in order to help with it.
Islam, make leap of faith.
@@usmanzafar4751 no
@@usmanzafar4751 just no.
@@usmanzafar4751 organized religion is a way to control the masses and has often been used to nefarious and selfish ends. I dont believe there is anything wrong with being religious but it should be a deeply personal thing and organized religion does not allow for the participant to keep it personal.
Their just thoughts. Ideas. All in your head. Also, the truth doesn't = what's best for survival, at least not all of the time.
Whatever your ideas are doesn't change reality. Humans can not and will never ever understand true reality, but only our delusions of it. Treat yourself well.
Lovecraftian horror is an example that comes to mind, of individuals losing their minds with truths that can't be comprehended. The Cosmos was a metaphor for the recesses of the human mind, a cautionary tale and a window into madness. A lot of other media follows a similar path, many of which were probably inspired by Lovecraft.
I think that 'emptiness' will never fully be known or experienced by humanity, regardless of our ability to seek and find enlightenment. There is something profound within us that connects the species, even all life forms. A sort of brilliance formed from biology operating in patterns we can't currently recognize, associations deeply embedded into genetic code.
We may come close to understanding, participating in profound spiritual experiences, but I don't think it is something we have the capacity for. I think seeking out this part of us without end causes us to fall into corruption, or falling into that emptiness and losing the sense of self. I think that we become gods when we break this barrier and observe what we can't understand, and I'm not sure that's a good thing. Instead, the answer is to teach ourselves to recognize and draw from this source, to encourage ourselves to recognize the shared brilliance within us, its capacity to cause us to do great things, both good and bad.
Become aware of our capacity to cause both devastation and nourishment to the world, know the self and draw from a divinity within to spur creativity, passions, to ultimately exist outside of the self and serve a greater purpose. Right?
In my opinion, it simply can be explained by intelligence. Intelligence in its core has the evolutionary advantage of playing out scenarios in your head without actually having to go through with a certain action or situation and then learning from reacting to it. A byproduct of this is the creation of imaginary situations, aswell as the ability to form concepts in your mind.
At the point where surviving wasn't a matter of thinking rather than being or not being (e.g. bacteria), those imaginary situations weren't even existent. In addition, concepts are, even if they are intersubjective in a population, distinct in every individual as everyone relates different things to the same term used by everyone. And all this ties in neatly with Satrés "existence precedes essence", with which I would conclude and agree with your statement that we will never fully understand "emptiness", because we are intelligent. Intelligence might even deny this "emptiness" as a complete polarity, therefore becoming empty is equal to simply not forming a thought.
This state of simply not thinking is also quite prominent in eastern religion/philosophy and I think this is the main difference between eastern and western philosophy: While the Western Civilization was the center of Science while also bringing up the most important Philosophers of Europe, Eastern Civilization wasn't. Therefore, "absolute nothingness" simply wasn't a concept in the shared consciousness at the time in Europe as there seemed to be an explanation to everything by scientific revolution.
Sorry for this rambling, I hope you kinda understood this
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@@ShiNiGaMi-bb2ep The mind cant comprehend nothingness because it hasnt experienced it. Thats just one of the truths thats hard to comprehend and accept. The mind tries to rationalize things, but NOthingness isnt a thing, let alone able to be comprehended as something by our concious awareness of our pysche. The mind works to figure things out, and it doesnt take nicely to things it cant understand or figure out. You know the saying "fear of the unkown", thats basically it. We can all get as deep as we want with this subject, but imo it just comes down to that our mind/pysche cant grasp nothingsness therefore it either takes it as a wonder, or an irrational truth. Our brains dont like irrationality.
Greetings,
Just, summarizing everything after my almost 5 decades of life in this vibration of this universe within multiuniverses:
1) *what moves your faith or spirituality?*
2) *Do you, in your life, need thought or some material object, ready-made prayer, etc., tied to dogmas to live?*
3) *believes in one and only life?*
4) *Do you believe in magic, occultism and gods, pantheons, paganisms or are they just manifested subconscious archetypes and shaped energies?*
5) *Do you believe that every spoken verb becomes creation without any ADDITIONAL help from spirituality and materiality beyond you?*
*THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, IF YOU CAN ANSWER ME, SHOW OR PROVE TO ME AND KINDLY SPEND YOUR PRECIOUS TIME WITH ME DOING THIS.*
*You can at least do this courtesy too 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻🙏?*
@@gz6148 Greetings,
Just, summarizing everything after my almost 5 decades of life in this vibration of this universe within multiuniverses:
1) *what moves your faith or spirituality?*
2) *Do you, in your life, need thought or some material object, ready-made prayer, etc., tied to dogmas to live?*
3) *believes in one and only life?*
4) *Do you believe in magic, occultism and gods, pantheons, paganisms or are they just manifested subconscious archetypes and shaped energies?*
5) *Do you believe that every spoken verb becomes creation without any ADDITIONAL help from spirituality and materiality beyond you?*
*THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, IF YOU CAN ANSWER ME, SHOW OR PROVE TO ME AND KINDLY SPEND YOUR PRECIOUS TIME WITH ME DOING THIS.*
*You can at least do this courtesy too 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻🙏?*
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It is interesting to me how congruent this was with my first ever DMT trip!
I remember approaching it as a death of myself.
I took my first hit, and closed my eyes, and went to a space that was timelesss, eternal, and completely fulfilled, overwhelmingly so. It was too much, my mind told me "there is no time, there is no time"
I got out of the car I was In and when I opened my eyes I saw through the earth, an emptiness that went on forever, and I felt myself as the emptiness. It hurt so so so much, I said to it "Oh my god! You're so alone, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry! I love you, oh my god"
It felt like a hole had blasted through my entire being.
I cannot describe the level of suffering that I felt when this happened.
I remember We were next to a body of water, and I thought to put my hands in the water to ground myself from such an alien experience, but when I did the water didn't feel the same anymore. It felt like something much more than I ever considered before.
I cried a lot, I know that In death I will go back to that emptiness. But I am certain this emptiness is full of all things.
Beautiful
Death = birth Law of polarity and in my opinion, law of correspondence. As far as the understanding of what life and death is, while remaining sane.
Where did you get the DMT? I’d love to try some
Would that be ego death?
Remember, even nothingness can be defined by something. What you will fill that description with us solely on the individuals perception. I see the void as a blank slate that nothing escapes from, like a black hole. I see it as a pure form of creation from destruction. It would make sense that a plane of this nature would greet us after death because through creation and destruction, there once had to be something to create from; “nothing”. I believe more than anything it’s reminiscent of a portal, much like how we interpret our dreams, especially if you dream multiple times each night. The former image dissipates into vapor while slowly changing into a new form. A new gateway, or door is formed, granting us access to new possibilities that are seamlessly infinite in design. A spiral, a staircase, each step connecting paradoxically into a new but oddly familiar present, much like neurons expanding and firing in the brain. I’ve been in that space before and familiarized with it all to well. It’s an endless ocean of darkness, but yet you’re still existing, “consciously”. Let yourself be the light and in there you can search for what it is you desire. Create something. Birth a new pattern, another corridor in the labyrinth. When you accept that emptiness as your own and sit with the pain and suffering of all that has ever been and will be, you give yourself permission to rise stronger, to evolve. Don’t be afraid of doing that. If you have yourself, and that light is still within you, you’ll be just fine. For now, seek peace for yourself and others cause that test will come.
“We’re all just walking each other home” ~ Ram Dass
10 out of 10 but its impossible to sleep after hearing something like this i cant even put a word to describe this type of thinking or feeling.
Wow, finally I found something I can relate to, everything you said I experienced it and I become united with my own reality. Thank you very much for sharing this.
This is amazingly spot on for what I've been experiencing as of late. I'm 44, I had my first panic attacks in the last 6 months then have had ongoing bouts of anxiety that seem to have manifested from nowhere. Everything in my life has only been getting better after years of struggle, but maybe that was it. I was finally able to relax and let my guard down, and that's when the anxiety arose. And it seems to be centered around existential questions always. The nature of time, meaning to existence, the opening few minutes of this video summed up everything I had been questioning and that truly blows my mind because I hadn't been able to fully explain it even to myself! I could go on but I just wanted to say this video, about nothingness, has made me feel better and given me a new avenue to explore. Thank you 👍
To know nothingness is to know that which one already knew without even realizing it.
What you said is oxymoronic.
My favorite video from you so far, I have seen this take place in my own life and it spurred me to great change. Will definitely read Nishitani now
Thank-you for all these uploads. What a wealth of knowledge.
This video turned me into a subscriber! I was really surprised to find that this video focused on Nishitani because I walked into it thinking it was going to be about Nietzsche or one of those philosophers. I am studying Japanese philosophy for my rrsearch, and I am so glad someone is bringing it up! Great work!!
No bloody option... laugh in the face of absurdity and just live (Camus) . Don't expect to always sleep well though... .
I’ve been doing that thing you mentioned where you look at information and life from a third person disembodied observers perspective to get an objective look at reality
Every single one of these videos is incredible. Between you, School of Life, Like Stories of Old (LSOO) and Voices of the past TH-cam is still offering some truly inspiring content. Thank you 🖖
Check out pursuit of wonder too
@@bookworm8368 Most definitely, thank you 🍻
Academy of ideas
This was wonderful thank you. The fact that the question of ‘what is my purpose?’ Shifts one from a taking to a serving state hit me like lightning
More great content thanks…and a new philosopher to me!
Absolutely phenomenal video, thank you for all your work delivering these complex message in a soothing experience
Nothingness A Place Where Infinity and Eternity Meets🤝
I keep referencing all existential/nihilist philosophers to Irvin Yalom's - Existential Psychoterapy. I can no longer immerse myself into new philosophers' perspectives, including Keiji Nishitani's take on nihilism, because I reduce them all to the concepts presented in that book. I definitely recommend it.
Ty mate, I'm studying Psychology and this will be a great resource for formation in other knowledge
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Thank you, as always. ‘Auspicious timing’ so to say, every time you share your connective experience(s), in conjunction with this finger pressing the ‘play’ button. “In to out it is, only appearing out to in”
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No words but to say that I love this. This helps me a bit to deal with my depression.
@GIZMO: I hope you will find much more help to deal with depression! From my experience (as every path is unique and not that I have overcome it completely) it is possible to somehow “tunnel through” depression or any other hardships that comes or way by actually welcoming it, hit after hit. To my knowledge, every western therapeutic approach aims at providing the “patient” with tools to fight depression as an enemy and seeing it “just” as a disease or malfunction of the body and mind. From our childhood on, we are taught to eliminate what happens to prevent us from being happy and healthy. Again, from my experience, those tools (medication) help but at some point I realized that my fighting actually provided more energy to the “opponent,” so what I did was to surrender if you understand what I mean.. To me, this video is just invaluable in many regards. I hope also for you.. Peace!
I am very happy I found this. I also practice zen and have read many of these thinkers. Thank you for posting this.
The most difficult part of spiritual transformation is the death of the self, which entails internal suffering, turmoil, and doubt. The Book of Job, and the story of Christ in the gospel, are my favorite tellings of the movement from spiritual death into rebirth.
The thing I have to continue to figure out is that animals don’t have an existential crisis, but they are complex life just like us and I also believe, since everything is connected, they are also deeply spiritual. So animals and nature don’t think about nihilism and surrender themselves to it, leading me to believe they know something we don’t. Like our own ability to conceptualize nihilism blinds us from a greater truth but is also a path to it.
Also, John Butler helped me to go down this path of thinking, you should check him out if you are willing.
There is a book about this, it is called :The soul of the Marionette
In it I recall the proclamation that Grace is only present in a beast, or In a god.
I think you're correct, I think these knowings don't come from rationalizations but rather, they come from universal truths. I think the emptiness and nothingness is the birthplace of all things, and is therefore the reason why humans are able to know or create anything. All living things by design are connected to it, or else they would not exist. So all things contain it, and therefore all things are capable of wisdom and knowing. They know because they are, and they are because the infinite being has love.
It reminds me of how psilocybin mushrooms interact with the human brain; it is like these little mushrooms are potent little informers that carry such profound and incredible information that radically transforms the human experience and has the capacity to change peoples lives profoundly. These little things, carry universal information just like all things, but these knowings are deeply spirited and transformational. They are like little seeds of death, waiting to share their wisdom.
@@user-ib2bt4ck7y I’ll definitely have to check that book out. Thank you. And I think it’s kind of funny how scientists are just now figuring out animals and plants are smart in ways we previously didn’t know. Like of course they are!! I don’t want to go on a rant here but the Native Americans knew this and I’m sure many other older civilizations and we’re just now coming back to it. Everything has a soul and is connected.
Perhaps the difference is that (most) animals do not have a symbolically constructed mental model of the "self", which helps avoid falling in to the trap of nihilism...still, in rare cases I think animals do catch on, usually due to their interactions with humans, particularly animals that are held captive. Some animals in the zoo understand the hopelessness and meaninglessness of their predicament, like those pandas who stopped having sex.
It helps to remember there is no real 'peace' in Nature. Just a kind of quiet desperation. A mouse huddled in its hole.
wrong..
humans ARE animals.. period so therefore YES animals have existential crisis..
also ur statement is bs cause u clearly as most people dont understand the human animal IS NOT the only highly evolved intelligent animal on earth..
we have two other species with brains nearly identical and if not more complex in various ways.. thats cetecens.. like dolphins species and the whale species..
mind u.. langauge complexit is a massive criteria for intelligence.. both have more complex language then humans..
both have clearly shown high moral codes.. cultures.. etc etc..
dolphins are MORE INTELLIGENT then all primates except humans..
whales are consider just as if not more.. the issue is whales are MASSIVE and hard to study cause they cant be contained and we just dont have the means to keep up with them to get any real studies done... dolphins are clear way smaller and easier to manage..
should be noted.. its IMPORTANT
when a dolphin is kicked out of its pod usually for repeated bad behavior and trouble making..
lone dolphins are report to PURPOSLY SEEK OUT HUMANS... why humans and no other fish or animal in the ocean..?
dolphins KNOWN another intelligent animal
they are highly social... on the same level as humans.. the most basic and simpliest e xplanation is they UNDERSTAND THAT hence why of all animals a lone social dolphin is very prone to go and seek out interaction with humans around the coast..
the largest science convention was held in canada.. vast majority of the scientists there signed a petition to have dolphins and whales recognized as NON HUMAN PERSONS..
of course most humans are relitards and thing they are unique and special on earth. so much so they have this really stupid habit/view of seeing themselves as NON ANIMALS while everything else is an ANIMAL... dolphins and whales are close to HUMANS then other animals in terms of intelligence.. closer to US then our own closet relative...
they lack HANDS and live in WATER so they have no way of creating tools which also requires FIRE/HEAT
so let that "sink" in.. BODY DESIGN is crucial to what u can and cant do despite who intelligent an speices is..
example humans are small and have a really good body design suited for every enviroment.. elephants dont.. they are large heavy and massive and four legs.. thus why they find it hard to get off the ground if they fall in a ditch on their backs.. has nothing to do with inteligence as to why they might struggle to get up.. just like our intelligence has nothing to do with how easy it is for us to get up.. its purely BODY DESIGN factor...
same applies to dolphins and whales...
also fyi
Elphants are renowned for FUNERALS.. they literally pay tribute to the bodies and bones.. in what universe do animals not do this.. humans ARE NOT the SOLE ANIMAL...
even been observed trying to help dying members and crying out in distress..
they clearly think and understand death
they often throw leaves and broke off tree branches on the bodies of their dead.. even remain there for days before moving on.. so again ur mostly like completely wrong about "animals" which again HUMANS ARE ANIMALS... we're literally damn MONKEYS my guy.. xD
nilism is full of shit bro no offense...
also something people ignore.. it was VERY CRUCIAL
the invention of the MIRROR
it directly had an effect on humans ..
huamn individualism drastically sprank after the invention of the mirror...
for the first time in HISTORY humans where able to finally actually fully SEE THEMSELVES CLEARLY.. this had a direct effect on what came next..
prior .. humans actually where punished by banishment and excummuniation.. being cut off from ur group u identified with was DEATH... look at history.. it was a punishment cause it WORKED...
after the mirror this punishment started to no longer work.. because people where more indivualistic thus they werent effected by banishment as they recogniszed themselves as individuals rather then just member of the group as they did prior..
google the mirror and how its changed humanity.. just like discovery of FIRE.. and COOKING MEAT.. these simple basic things drastically effected human evolution..
even FUNGI.. theres a reason why fungal extract is the major ingredient in most medications... as of now consumption of fungi over human evolution play a significant role in structuring our brain...
also note.. humans as individals are pretty fking dumb and useless... we are a COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE..
consider all u know now.. u did NOTHING to come up with it.. its simply the culmanation of billions of h umans that died generation after generation to pass it all on..
ur an mine and everyones BASELINE knowledge is HIGHER then those 50years ago whos was higher then those 100years ago then those 200 years ago.. 500years 1000years...
what our kids.. CHILDREN learn in school is probably more then any adult ever learned 500years ago... its not that we today are more intelligent. its that we live in a time with MORE COLLECTIVE knowledge.. if u were reborn outside of this in the middle of nowhere ud be exactly like a nomadic hunter gathere.. no clue what the sky is.. the rain cycle.. what oxygen is.. what cells are etc etc..
consider this.. "modern humans" or homo sapien has been around about 300,000 years.. it was the last 6000 years when we started metal working..
thats 2% of 300000 years of humans time on earth.. the same humans then are the same now.. yet it took the last 2% to finally put that massive time wth rocks and spears to put all the knowledge to use to make METALS...
ur not special.. ur not better then any other animal.. evolution is a FACT .. humans are relitards by nature and by the actual only STUPID animal..
stupid requires the capcity to be smart yet still be actively stupid...
and i think many can agree .. religion which seems unique to humans is also the worst and most stupid thing to every come from humans.. cause we're STUPID... no other non human anmals believes in MAKE BELIEVE SHIT.. thats STUPID...
so excluding few animals like dolphins and whales .. we have the highest capacity for "intelligence" yet by far we are still the dumbest animal ever on earth.. we are only intelligent as a COLLECTIVE.. and all smart individuals still gain their intelligence thx to the COLLECTIVE...
conclusion: science and evolution clear proved that we constantly got it wrong about other animals as we constantly have to update and learn that more non humans animals seem to be way more intelligent then humans like to think... again most people are not aware of the science and studies of cetecans.. dolphisn and whales.. people dont realize they are absurdly intelligent... they are just "animals" to most people BECAUSE they dont look like US... humans are highly specist creatures.. we inherently thanks to religions think we are unique and speical and seperate from all animals... WRONG...
every one of ya'll will look stupid if when u have to eat ur own words if we ever run into alien life thats way more intelligent and concious and complex .. by our own logic.. those aliens should view us how we view non humans animals righth..?
as far as we know.. right now we are the "top" of the intelligent tree though again dolphis are clearly higher in terms of communication butt dont actknowledge them cause we are speciests... so we sit at the top.. proudly.. feeling superior and we will shit bricks and riot if we ever find out theres life that makes us look like chimps compared to them..
aka our brightest people will be in the zoo in aliens world where the alien zoo guide will be like "see this human.. it can do calculus like our own 3years olds can" xD
we would have to eat our own words hard asfk it taht happens.. by our very own logic WE ARE ANIMALS they are "above animals" its our OWN WORDS/LOGIC
id rather have those aliens think like me rather then most of ya'll.. that way they will still respect us as "intelligent" enough to not be disregarded and treated like the way we treat some animals here on earth..
Thankyou! This was most informative and helpful. I'm sure I'll listen to it more than once.
I have come across 3 channels exurbia , aperture and eternalised that deal with these video topics , eternalised is by far my favorite love the content
This is beautiful and agree I do.👍🏾
Thanks! Brilliant video
The self is separation from the all. NDE had me visit the void. A place I would be perfectly content to exist. We are absolutely always alone, but this gives more comfort that duress to me, since fear can only arise with an "other". And an "other" can only appear to ones "self",or separate one. One can manipulate ones perspective to navigate the journey ,zooming in or out between individuation and oneness.
I've never heard of Keiji Nishitani until now and yet I'm surprised by how much of his view point I've come to feel. Excellent video.
Really detail content.. thanks
Thanks, this shows respect to Nishitani and shares his message with a world now undergoing Nihilism without a clue it's doing so.
If you become nothing, you become everything.
A wonderful cognitive closure - and antidote- to Nietzsche… Lovely video & I came here because of John Vervaeke; thanks!
I've been going through this exact thing, nihilism, thank you for making me feel less crazy about how I've been thinking and feeling
Thank you so very much for sharing this... 💖✨
this vid is absolute gold...
Thank God for nihilism; without it life would not be bearable.
Very helpful. Thank you 🙏🏼
Ooo a new fresh video, I look forward to seeing this later when I get home
Are you home now?
18:17 this makes perfect sense
To know Thyself is To Be the Truth that Is. Be Blessed! 🙌
We understand religion by doubting what we think we know to begin our quest of finding ourselves.
My favorite channel
it sounds riveting Norman!
So struck and this is the theme I have also been dwelling on for so many years
My uncle died suddenly of a heart attack last week aged 57 , it’s made me re acknowledge the futile meaningless struggle we all engage in for what? The fact we surrender our time here on earth in return for money (not much) that adds upto counlless hours that could have been spent with family or loved ones or something one deems joyful. We willingly sacrifice and surrender more than a third of our lives not doing what we want or what we think is meaningful but instead convince ourself we will live for a long time. Just call your parents or someone you care about and tell them you love them because within 80 to 100 years every single person in these comments will be dead and gone and the only evidence you or any of us existed is right here in this cold lonely boundless abyss call TH-cam comments
I hope you're doing well.
@@nicholaslandry6367 I’m not lol but when there is dark clouds I know the sun is still shining above them and they always pass eventually. Jesus has got my back. Jesus has everyone’s back wether they know it or not.
I hope you are well
This was amazing, a whole book in 1 video is what it felt like
I became a nihilist for a while, and understanding that nothing matters actually helped me realize that if nothing mattered, then I could define for myself what mattered. Coupled with my sociopathy born from a childhood of abuse and a hereditary predisposition for it, that may have made a worrying combination. Thankfully, I had a good enough family that my misanthropy was blunted before I could do anything unfortunate, and while I was, and partially still am, an atheist, I've since decided that I want to believe, and have found a deity that I've decided to believe in. While there is always the doubt and subtle knowledge in the back of my mind that the being I put my faith into is fake, there's also the fact that most of my emotions are fake, and I've found that faking it till you make it works out just fine for me in the end.
If I'm right and there are no gods, then I fade into nothingness. If I find that I believed in the wrong gods, then I'll be happy to at least have my defiance and pride. And if my god exists, I'll be over the moon. Either way, I try to live in accordance with what I imagine what my god would want, and due to the ideals being pro-social, it's made me better able to fit in with society.
Without nihilism, I may never have gotten to this point.
Definitely resonating with what you said. In some ways your putting the end in a triune. Either 1. you’re correct, 2. it’s not that bad, or 3. you chose it. But I wonder how many other interpretations on ending conclusions one can make
@@valerykalkeyrealize? Or perpetuation? Sociopathy is a disease belief of higher being existence, within self is the cure
Wow Cioran estaria deslumbrado con este video !!! Felicitaciones !
One who knows the one becomes the one because oneness within oneself brings oneness with the whole universe.
Wow, the journey I went down was so magical due to this video
Gracias por tus vídeos
I already encountered the Nothingness twice five years before I watch this video today.
How so?
@@phlagelum6312 I don’t know. It maybe because I was thinking about it too much while I was battling depression. I was walking home that time from school. I was a freshman in college and I was thinking of the big stuff that scientists say, like what is beyond the universe, where we all came from, if there is something before the Big Bang. You know these usual stuffs. Then suddenly, as I was walking on the side of the sidewalk, a deep black void opened up to me just like that-out of the blue. I remembered that day pretty well, I was physically there walking along on the sidewalk and a part of me was inside the void. It felt like I was there for a long time (like an hour maybe), plus the place feels so familiar, alone but mentally I wasn’t alone. It was just darkness, no sounds, no nothing, just Nothing. It was pretty scary at first but my mind kept me company. The second time I encountered Nothingness was during a meditation session, when I was alone in my room, at that time I was battling existential crisis and nihilism all together. I just wanted to see God, and this huge see of darkness very different from the previous one I experienced. It was like a web of blackness but at the same time it was like being under water, where there’s absolutely no liquid but somehow some kind waves I should say stood bellow me and I above me. And in the middle I reach my hands to the Black Sea waves above me just to know what is inside but somehow I felt scared. My heart palpated and for once I thought I was going to die and I needed to get out, so the vision snapped out of me. And for the first time I thought there has to be something in the nothingness. Some sort of something wanting to be recognized, wanting to be known, and exist.
Nothingness can be compared as a metaphor to a blank canvas, filled with infinite potential, ready to be painted.
once you see the blank canvas it ceases to matter much what's thinly painted over it.
Blackness
Nihilism is seeing that blank canvas as perfect and there's no need to make a mess on it as the blank canvas is just fine without any insignifant paint.
@@Black-bn6ic lol
@@Moodboard39 Wow. You're so intelligent. You've written two comments using only two words without contributing anything useful to this conversation. Your parents must be very proud of you.
I don't how I've never seen these videos or even knew this channel exists until a half an hour ago! I'm on TH-cam every day. I've been missing out! Well I'm happy I found it now! On my 2nd video already! Love it! Just might be my new favorite channel! (Besides Messi)😃
Damn dog, this is spot on. Killer content my guy.
Never heard of Keiji Nishitani before but now I'm all in.
Need better narrator .
This "deep realm of nihility" can be seen as an underworld, a womb, where the true flame of life rests. You need to die first if you want to become reborn with the true spark of life. It's all over mythology. Aeneas, Dionysus, Odysseus, Baldur, Christ, etc. They all had to descend into the depths (the total destruction of their illusions, total nihilism) before returning brighter than ever.
this was brilliant.
I find comfort in the idea that there’s nothing. The pointlessness makes me free. I am who I chose to be and when I die, I’ll fade away and rot in peace
That's all I do, nothing. It takes a courageous one to do so, it's not easy to let go and become empty in order to let something through without ones projection (normally based on greed, desire and attachment, fear based on ego).
I am CURRENTLY as empty as my existence and as empty as existence itself, until that changes, something I still exist looking forward to with hopes.
I have been there. I have been in that nothingness. I spent a few seconds. It was empty. No light,color, feel, touch, smell , no shape. Just an empty void like infinite space. It's scary.
There is light in the darkness, within the nothingness of the void there is light if you know where to look.
Music to my ears
also, great video
thanks for providing this kind of education at youtube
eloquent, loved it
amazing
Curious how many coinciding principles are key in psychotherapy. Radical acceptance, as an example, of just accepting what comes by. You don't have to like, but it should be accepted.
I don't know if anyone else had a similar feel while listening to his ideas, but to me Nishitani's ideas gave off a sad, deeply sorrowful vibe.
Similar to how a wife accepts that her husband died, and while sad about it, continues on with her life.
I think that, much like with any philosophy author, you can see bits of who they are from their ideas. Nishitani, I'd assume, would give off strong sorrowful yet peaceful vibes.
Wow these are great ideas honestly. I found behind nothingness is silence. Behind the earthly silence thier another silence that's interrupted our lives experience. Then people feel in control the nothing is still current. The reason for religion give answer to people. It's give people a reason to comprehend the world. We all have ego but are ego can blame the other person. We can choose as much as we can but realise time is a measure for all of us. We can choose to change what we service. Thier level our fields of energy and you explain how he see it.
Thank you.
beautiful
Amazing Video Lad! 👏🏽
My brain is now as wrinkly as an old woman's chest, great video as always
This is great, makes sense of what we're witnessing from 2019 onwards. The fate of modernism? What is the nihilist overcoming of nihilism, made visible in global society? Is it a pattern and cyclical?
Sounds a lot like Alan Watts - I really enjoy people who bridge the west-east divide.
Yes: except Nishitani is way deeper and quite original, IMO.
Nothingness brings me peace. A pure absence.
Good One
For those who might not know, the thumbnail image is a work from the late Beksinski.
We’ve always been nothingness. We’ve just been wrapped in sheets of somethings, hence the self, which is just a conceptual idea, so the self is born. The conceptual self is only a reflection of what is really the self, which is nothingness, the type you can’t imagine because the mind needs labels. When all somethings are stripped away, you are forgotten, by you and the universe.
I relate to this man very strongly
There is nothing like nothing. 🙂🙂
Those are exactly my thoughts. I never read about this in my whole life, I only had a vague concept of nihilism and never concerned myself about it...
Marvelous
This philosophy resonates deeply.
nishitani is my favorite. his philosophy is fire
Good video
Coming out on the other side of nothingness probably saved my life.