Heh heh. Probably not far from the truth! TBH, though, it's amazing they were able to program anything with any sophistication at all on that thing, considering the hardware specs: No video memory to speak of (The programmer was responsible for telling the system what to write to the screen, on a line by line basis), and only 128 bytes (yes, BYTES) of RAM.
i played the C64-version back in the erly 90s and this music was all this years stuck in my head in a deep deep corner of my brain - now it's released again into my consciousness
That's part of the comparing process. How can You compare every aspect from graphics to sound without including little nuances like death animations & the sounds associated with it. I feel that I would be doing the whole spirit of these comparisons a great dis service by not including the death scenes. Who agrees with me here ?? thumbs me up. :)
I was blown away with the Sharp x68000 version. Kudos for the 2600 to reproduce the sound like that. I was shocked the ColecoVision port looked and sounded better overall to the MSX version. It should have been the other way around. Maybe the ColecoVision version came out after the MSX? To me the MSX version's attempt to reproduce missed the mark. The Atari 800 version feels like it was partially the hardware limitations but maybe they needed better coders. ColecoVision ruled this one!
Mr. Do's Castle is a really forgotten gem. Robotron 2084 gets all the glory for onscreen madness but if you weren't careful in this game, things could get out of hand in no time. Great, great game from Universal. Played the arcade, c64 and Colecovision versions.
Also to its credit it looked like the 2600 version implemented skull traps, which didn't seem to be the case from what we saw of the MSX version. Although we didn't see that feature of the game play demonstrated (along with the keys.)
As usual, the 2600 version was so graphically challenged that it was nearly unplayable... but WOW, that musical reproduction may have been the best I've heard on that system.
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I have the 5200 version myself. It's nearly impossible to play with that awful joystick. Eventually I plan on getting the Colecovision version, if I can find a copy that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
great video i have MR. DO CastleMR for 2600 it been yrs . since played not bad of port for 2600. but also snes MR Do which play just few months a go and show little nephew then . i big fan Of MR DO games and beacause was in the arcades /gamesroom for yrs . thanks for video .
Some Atari 800/XL emulators default to PAL. The Atari 800 version in the video seem to be playing slow. It should play at the same speed as the 5200 version in NTSC.
That Sharp x68000 seems to have some excellent capabilities, as is evident in many of these comparisons. It's too bad they were never available in the United States. They seem to be on par with or surpassing the SNES and Genesis/Megadrive of the time. Were they just too expensive? Poor selection of games? Some other problem?
The ironic thing is that besides hardware, programmers ability with hardware made the world of difference. The best version besides the arcade version was the Sharp, but you are comparing a 68000 based machine that was much more powerful than Mr Do's 1981/82 arcade hardware. I played the 8 bit Atari version back in the day and find the Colecovision version a bit better, but remember, the Colecovision was 3 year newer hardware with a 4mhz Z80 cpu. The Atari computer 1.79 MHz 6502, and the C64 literally a 1mhz 6510. The poor Atari uses a literally castrated cpu with 1/8 kB if system ram...I am impressed it can make sounds really.
you're right young man! making a weighted comparison, the 8 bit atari version is much better programmed than the X68000 version. It was times when cleverness and creativity were often able to overcome the power of more advanced and powerful hardware !!
You're right, Mr. SEA. You might find the video series on the Atari 2600 hardware interesting. th-cam.com/video/O8AaXEq1Qok/w-d-xo.html There are several parts. There is also a nicely cut-down edited version somewhere on TH-cam.
Speaking as a proud 2600 owner, its version of this game was really terrible! I didn't even know a port for this game existed, probably because I never touched my 2600 again after getting my ColecoVision. And wow, the ColecoVision version looks better than Commodore64!
Commodore is the best of course, the only thing that x68000 has over the others is the colors. The commodore's music is obviously superior even over the arcade.
@wingnut4427 Yep death the animations and sounds are an important part of the game! Who can't remember pac mans or marios death animation and music? Its interesting to see how close the different platforms copyed the original version every aspect.
The x68000 version either uses emulation, or the the programmers converted the actual Z80 source code to 68K code. The x68k includes all the arcade bugs and its few tricks.
Oh my God if every time I saw an MSX video on youtube configured with the wrong frequency I earned a dollar, I'd have money to buy every MSX in the world by now. Goddamn it, Japanese games you set for 60 hz. SIXTY HERTZ or the game is too slow!
![1984 [60fps] Mr. Do's Wild Ride 132244pts](/img/n.gif)
Development cycle for the Atari 2600:
1. Let's make this music work.
2. Shit, we're out of memory.
Heh heh. Probably not far from the truth! TBH, though, it's amazing they were able to program anything with any sophistication at all on that thing, considering the hardware specs: No video memory to speak of (The programmer was responsible for telling the system what to write to the screen, on a line by line basis), and only 128 bytes (yes, BYTES) of RAM.
i played the C64-version back in the erly 90s and this music was all this years stuck in my head in a deep deep corner of my brain - now it's released again into my consciousness
The music is surprisingly good for theAtari 2600.
I thought the same thing. Too bad about the graphics
That's part of the comparing process. How can You compare every aspect from graphics to sound without including little nuances like death animations & the sounds associated with it. I feel that I would be doing the whole spirit of these comparisons a great dis service by not including the death scenes. Who agrees with me here ?? thumbs me up. :)
I was blown away with the Sharp x68000 version. Kudos for the 2600 to reproduce the sound like that. I was shocked the ColecoVision port looked and sounded better overall to the MSX version. It should have been the other way around. Maybe the ColecoVision version came out after the MSX? To me the MSX version's attempt to reproduce missed the mark. The Atari 800 version feels like it was partially the hardware limitations but maybe they needed better coders. ColecoVision ruled this one!
Mr. Do's Castle is a really forgotten gem. Robotron 2084 gets all the glory for onscreen madness but if you weren't careful in this game, things could get out of hand in no time. Great, great game from Universal. Played the arcade, c64 and Colecovision versions.
I used to play this on Colecovision a lot. About 20 years ago a flea market had a cabaret version for sale. I wanted to buy it so bad.
Good one here. Even though it was not widely ported, it was still put on some of the more notable consoles & computers of the time.
Also to its credit it looked like the 2600 version implemented skull traps, which didn't seem to be the case from what we saw of the MSX version. Although we didn't see that feature of the game play demonstrated (along with the keys.)
Many fond memories of that music from my childhood.
If I wasn't already familiar with the arcade game, I would have no idea what was supposed to be going on in that 2600 port.
This game gives me so much nostalgia of the arcade in the dentist.
As usual, the 2600 version was so graphically challenged that it was nearly unplayable... but WOW, that musical reproduction may have been the best I've heard on that system.
What I have to do to play Mr. Do's Castle in X68000 system?. Always run Mr. Do!
It's somewhat similar to Load Runner. I need to try this game.
I agree! It did better then the commoodore 64 version music.
BETTER THAN, NOT BETTER THEN YOU MORON
Oh boy, I played this so many times in my Coleco! :D
I'm glad that You enjoyed the video & could help you to relive some fond memories :) And I hope You continue to enjoy My channel for years to come :D Thank you for Your comment & Your kind words. It's greatly appreciated. :)
This is my favorite of all the Mr. Do! games. I have the Colecovision version.
I have the 5200 version myself. It's nearly impossible to play with that awful joystick. Eventually I plan on getting the Colecovision version, if I can find a copy that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
+pollyisagoodbird That, unfortunately, is a struggle. I paid a little over $100 for mine in 2006. At least it was complete at that price.
great video i have MR. DO CastleMR for 2600 it been yrs . since played not bad of port for 2600. but also snes MR Do which play just few months a go and show little nephew then . i big fan Of MR DO games and beacause was in the arcades /gamesroom for yrs . thanks for video .
Some Atari 800/XL emulators default to PAL. The Atari 800 version in the video seem to be playing slow. It should play at the same speed as the 5200 version in NTSC.
That Sharp x68000 seems to have some excellent capabilities, as is evident in many of these comparisons. It's too bad they were never available in the United States. They seem to be on par with or surpassing the SNES and Genesis/Megadrive of the time. Were they just too expensive? Poor selection of games? Some other problem?
I love this game although I sucked at it could only reach lv 14 it was my favorite arcade back then
You know, the Atari 2600 version did a pretty good job of reproducing the music, honestly.
Thanks / Dziękować :D
The C64 version is the only 8 bit in the video that doesn't use the monochrome atari 2600 sprites, All look very poor compared.
This Name Was Available!, you, sir, are a fucking moron.
Agree
ahora comparalo con atari 800
The ironic thing is that besides hardware, programmers ability with hardware made the world of difference. The best version besides the arcade version was the Sharp, but you are comparing a 68000 based machine that was much more powerful than Mr Do's 1981/82 arcade hardware. I played the 8 bit Atari version back in the day and find the Colecovision version a bit better, but remember, the Colecovision was 3 year newer hardware with a 4mhz Z80 cpu. The Atari computer 1.79 MHz 6502, and the C64 literally a 1mhz 6510. The poor Atari uses a literally castrated cpu with 1/8 kB if system ram...I am impressed it can make sounds really.
you're right young man! making a weighted comparison, the 8 bit atari version is much better programmed than the X68000 version. It was times when cleverness and creativity were often able to overcome the power of more advanced and powerful hardware !!
You're right, Mr. SEA. You might find the video series on the Atari 2600 hardware interesting. th-cam.com/video/O8AaXEq1Qok/w-d-xo.html There are several parts. There is also a nicely cut-down edited version somewhere on TH-cam.
Link to Music Download is in the description.
There is a link down in the description at the end. :)
I updated the link. It will work now. Enjoy ! :)
Speaking as a proud 2600 owner, its version of this game was really terrible! I didn't even know a port for this game existed, probably because I never touched my 2600 again after getting my ColecoVision. And wow, the ColecoVision version looks better than Commodore64!
no problem !
Commodore is the best of course, the only thing that x68000 has over the others is the colors. The commodore's music is obviously superior even over the arcade.
Nope. ARCADE PERFECT gameplay is the most important factor in CONVERSIONS. aNYONE WHO PUTS SOUND OR GRAPHICS OVER IT, DESERVED TO BE ABORTED AS BABIES
Why has no one made a homebrew port of this game to the NES?
I know the 2600 was a very limited system, but honestly, the 2600 version of this game doesn't even look like it's finished.
For me the Sharp version is the only one that comes close to the arcade original.
what is the music at the beniging? its a remix of the theme ... where is?
@wingnut4427 Yep death the animations and sounds are an important part of the game! Who can't remember pac mans or marios death animation and music? Its interesting to see how close the different platforms copyed the original version every aspect.
the best trap-em-up game >:D
cool, thanks
thanx ;D
No version for DO'S? :)
Sharp looked best overall, Colecovision in second.
You're in luck ! I still have it ! :D I'll upload it & update the link.
it's gone now. Lemmie see if I have it. If I do I'll make a new link.
Link to music doesn't work, BTW: music 0:00-0:33 - where can I find soundtrack ?
I put 50 one dm coins into that.
Is this game available in XBLA's Game Room?
The x68000 version either uses emulation, or the the programmers converted the actual Z80 source code to 68K code. The x68k includes all the arcade bugs and its few tricks.
The 2600 version of this game is just awful. I’m not even talking about the graphics - it’s the gameplay.
Oh my God if every time I saw an MSX video on youtube configured with the wrong frequency I earned a dollar, I'd have money to buy every MSX in the world by now.
Goddamn it, Japanese games you set for 60 hz. SIXTY HERTZ or the game is too slow!
Thank you!
You mustn't blaspheme.
@@speedgriffon2504 Goddamn it I don't care about what I must, just to what i can, oh my Dear Lord.
@@rafaellima83 At least you had that lovely prayer at the end...