Valentine Repair | Ep. 7 | Tank Workshop Diaries | The Tank Museum
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode the Workshop team work on the WW2 Valentine tank, the Challenger 1 suspension and repair the Terex tracks.
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You guys certainly have some excellent machinists.........not only are they refurbishing worn parts but must certainly be tooling out replacement parts from scratch. Impressive!!!!!👍
All of the people liking this wish they had your guys jobs. Fascinating stuff. Better than Lego!
I'd love a separate series on the Valentine such as was done for Matilda.
yup gets my vote!
Even the small stuff is interesting. I don't get to see the details anywhere else. BTW: a great example of the final drive reduction on the Valentine in action as the brake drum spins faster than the sprocket when the track is coming off (11:05). I think they were just discussing that feature of the drive wheels during a recent Patreon Q&A.
Called slowmotion drive, it mounts the brake drums outside for better cooling, its called slowmotion as the brakes are mounted off the transmission output, before entering the reduction epicyclic gearboxes before attatching to the tracks drive sprocket
What i wouldn't give to work for you guys in the workshops!
Thank you. This brought back all my memories as a Tpr/Cpl doing countless hours of maintenance on my C/S as a driver. I think the ratio was for every hour of driving, be prepared to do seven hours of maintenance. Excellent work and thank you to you and all your maintainers. Cheers
I love watching tankers splitting and removing tracks, note watching. Speaking as a medic, it was always likely to result in injuries of one kind or another. Rushing while on exercise even more so.
Happy days!
What a fantastic job these men do on the tanks! - they would deserve a medal each, 🏅 though i think they rather prefer money! (and maybe some even works for the great of the cause)
Greetings, Levi from Finland
"where's there's a wheel, there's a way" LOL
Awesome video as always. I love the detail of how every component works. It really shows how much love and attention goes into keeping each of these vehicles running. Vehicles like this should be kept running where possible.
These video's are solid gold for modelers.
These workshop diaries surely must be some of the best videos on TH-cam. 21 minutes of pure joy!
10:15 re: oil nipples being mistaken for grease nipples, this even happens on old industrial machines, I have an old East German lathe with a sleeved spindle shaft where the previous owner just used grease instead of bearing oil. Had to completely disassemble the headstock to get that all out.
Grim
By far the most interesting look at the inner workings of armored fighting vehicles that I've seen anywhere else! I'm SO glad you have decided to share this material with us! The bit about the fittings that people often mistakenly think are grease fittings was VERY enlightening. I often think back to when I was a kid working on old cars with my dad when watching these videos. I try to imagine the kind of problems we came up against and how we solved them compared to what the people in these videos do. Entertaining AND educational! Thank you, so much for providing this glimpse behind the scenes! :)
The workshop is the heart of this fantastic Museum. I like the fact that they allow senior technicians/tradespeople present and explain.
The Valentine is my favorite WW2 tank. Such a well designed vehicle, very reliable and cost effect unlike most of the machines built at the time. I bet it's joy to work on compared to the Matilda.
I have to say, if you are a scale modeler, being able to see the way that Valentine has weathered as they are taking it apart is invaluable. Most notably the paint chipping and discoloration along the sides of the hull, the accumulated dust from people walking on top of it, etc. Usually one is resigned to using old black and white photos, or color photos of vehicles that have been sitting in the elements for decades, neither of which are anywhere near as good as seeing a live, running vehicle that is actually driven around, on video using modern cameras.
That was the best workshop diary yet. Loved the explanations and the shots of the Challenger running like a dream. Thanks guys.
That is some big heavy work....This is some really great content in this video...That is what we like to see at Google....Thanks very much...From USA...!
All very interesting, thank you 👍🏻🇦🇺
You guys are amazing. Bearing in mind the subject, I believe the common phrase may be adjusted. It seems " Where there is a Wheel, there is Way. (to fix it.) " Good luck and thanks for sharing your very hard work. It is nice to see a younger fellow learning the old ways. There is much of what you do which may not be in any book. God bless you all.
Thank you for the nice views of the suspension at the end! I love watching the suspension for some reason. The video was very great and informative
Tanks for the video, once again, very interesting and informative.
Being an engineer and loving tanks. This would be my dream job.
get a smal WW2 dozer like a D2/D4 and you are almost there.
ey man EMRS 💪💪
Russian Tanker 👍
Thank you for a very interesting presentation.👍
I do love the Valentine 'Monty's Foxhounds'. Berlin Brigade camouflage Fox there.
I absolutely love these videos! Great job guys and thank you!
Love the suspension episodes. Always wanted to know more about different types of suspension tecniques
I see the Tank Museum....I thumbs up without watching first.
Amazing insight into tank maintenance! Thank you Tank Museum Team!
The most enjoyable 21.32 mins/secs I’ve had all week. Fantastic. Thank you all. 😊👍🏻
Me being an old tankie I can watch this all day.
Thank you for these videos they are really interesting and informative, these ones, the tank chats ect there all really good, very much appreciated
These workshop diaries are not only interesting for us today but will also become a valuable resource for restorers in the future, to show them how it should be done. Men who can actually do this sort of work will become fewer every generation. Plenty of kids play "World of Tanks" nobody plays "Garage of Maintenance".
Also a question;
Are guns and smoke dischargers restored to working order ?
Just love tank workshop diaries so informative and interesting keep up the good work lads, thanks.
I ALWAYS enjoy watching these Tank Diaries! Thanks very much! Its great to pick up the finer details of maintenance and mechanical design (including the war history behind the use of certain materials and/or parts)...I picked up many gems of information from particularly the Valentine suspension service!
Love these videos. Keep up the great work!
Wish I lived in England you got the best tanks seen so far.
Airplane tickets are not so expensive.
my advice book a trip and visit some incredible good museums like The tank museum, Imperial war museum and the national Railway museum.
@@obelic71 With the added advantage that the National Railway museum in York is also in the same town as a great RAF Museum at Elvington, and has "Betty's", the finest teashop in the country, ^oo^
@@bernardthedisappointedowl6938 You make me craving for a British cup of tea now. As an continental European i don't like British breakfest (chips, beans in tomatosaus and sausages swiming on a plate of grease) but for a good cup of British tea you can get me out of bed everytime!
@@obelic71 Betty's it is then Richard, they make a particularly good scone as well, ^oo^
@@bernardthedisappointedowl6938 Damn i missed the ferry to Hull form Europoort/Rotterdam at 20:30 CET
Nice One - Love It! Keep Up the Great Work and Cheers
Opens video...hits *like* straight-away...Just keep making this stuff.
Impressive the time and effort the chap's put in and the facilities are first rate
Soooo interesting, keep them coming.
Well done. Keep these very informative videos coming. 👍
Love this content! Keep it up!
Thanks.
"loved" driving the Centurion ARV - Sure if you like building up your leg muscles with the clutch. :) Repadding the Bulldozer without breaking the track must have been a long painful process.Little snippet of work on a M113 in there as well?
Many thanks for your work and content.
Absolutely fascinating! And... Makes me feel very proud that we had this level of expertise here too. One thing I did wonder though, have you ever had veteran tank mechanics visit your workshop and seen how you look after their old mounts?
Good call on the sleeve/bearing issue.
A Challenger tank with a suspension lean to one side, looks like an Austin1800 or Allegro. Take it to the garage and get it pumped up or it will fail the MOT.
If you need the brass sleaves oil grooving i work at a company that still has an old 1940s machine that cuts the oil grooves
Just a small correction they are known as"Post Pallets" i used to refurbish them when i used to work for the MOD 15/20 years ago
These kind of video clips are great. Keep them coming :-)
I enjoyed this...
Perfekt👋 Just gets better and better💙
These are so good.
You guys should see about a loan for one of the italian running tanks for tank fest. There is an organization in Italy that restores and runs all kinds. They have semoventi, m series tanks and all the trucks and armored cars.
Chrysler A57 Multi-bank @ 1:21!
So I wasn't just dreaming! And a demonstration cutaway unit no less! I wonder if there's any others still left in the world!
Excellent video!
Excellent video
Thank you
All that about the sleeve bearings on the Valentine reminded me of when we rebuilt the same on a Caterpilla D4 on the farm, over 40 years ago. I suspect we would have rather shocked the Tank Museum staff with some of our methods. There was a company in Lincoln that made pipe-organs, and they used a old-fashioned lathe to "spin" the tubes to shape. When they closed down, we bought it it, and so I can say I used an organ-builder's lathe to fix a Caterpillar..
I think we might have done a better job if I had seen this video.
Spinning the metal on a lathe might be a way you can make replacements for some of those damaged pars that were hidden behind various wheels.
Anyway, you're the people there, not me.
Why am I not surprised the Challenger uses special Austin Metro suspension.
So a rotten 2x4 cannot stop a challenger, good to know for the future
Fascinating to see the difference 40+ years made between Valentine and Challenger suspensions... Love the work the lads do and thought the Matilda series was frankly amazing! So another series of reno of a range target to running? There's also been a dearth of coverage of weapons systems (aka, the sharp end of things)... Wondering if there's any historical and/or new footage of capability over the decades that could be focus of a series... For example, the progression of British vs. Russian vs. American vs. Chinese fire systems over time... Distance, armor penetration, other FBW or other barrel launched weapons capability... Maybe make it 50 years of 1940 through 1990 to avoid classified status... Once the tank is operating, the point is the point after all.
Good stuff!
A mirror finish is probably not ideal for an oil seal. Smooth is good, too smooth is bad. Here's a bit of what a couple of oil seal manufacturers say:
Parker Hannifin -- "In a dynamic surface, microscopic variations form recesses which hold an oil film between the seal lip and the moving surface. If the surface is too smooth, friction and seal wear will be high because this oil film will not be present."
"Surface finishes below 2 μin Ra can create aggressive seal wear due to lack of lubrication "
SKF -- "The surface roughness values of the counterface for radial shaft seals, calculated according to methods described in ISO 4288 (DIN 4768), should be kept within the limits specified in RMA OS-1-1.
The lower value for Ra is a minimum value. Using a lower value will adversely affect the lubricant supply to the sealing lip."
Citroen used that suspension system in their Traction Avant series of vehicles. They may have invented it.
There are situations where I’d upgrade minor design like the bushings for practicality after documenting the original design as found.
Spot weld the bolts
Oh boy.
I'm assuming having the bushings and bearings bathed in oil is advantageous in that if the oil doesn't leak out there's no metal to metal contact but instead everything is riding the film. It's a great idea for reducing wear and tear but it seems rather complicated for a tank. Was this devised because of the lack of bearings because of war time? It just seems like it'd be way easier to use a Babbitt bearing you could pump full of grease.
are you guys planning any new Matilda-scale renovations in the near future?
I really love those smaller projects, but it hasn't got the allure a project like the Matilda II had
(0:35) OK, I just _have_ to ask! What is the thermal imaging used for? At least, I assume it's for thermal imaging. Is it for getting the right light balance or something along those lines? :)
Were the Valentine's spot welds on the retaining bolts done in manufacture or when going into preservation? Just wondering how the hell you would change a suspension unit in the field if it was designed like that!
One day someone will be griping to the younger generations about how yhe challengers suspension sucked(or how good it was for its time) and itll be one of those old tanks 70yrs into the future
Nice Video. I have to ask, where do you get spare nitrogen in the field?
I didn't realise Horstman Hydrogas was quite so similar to the old BMC/BL Hydragas system.
Aye and minis would sag the same way and need re levelling. The machine was a lot smaller and I think we pumped it up by hand. Hydrolastic Suspension. Was on 1100s too I think
I noticed that when you ran the track off of the valentine the drive sprocket drum rotated much faster than the geared sprocket. Is this a epicyclic reduction gearbox? Or something else?
...AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!
Jonathon kinda looks like The Mighty Jingles.
👏💪
Suspension is bizarre for a battle tank, nitrogen under pressure with fluids and air. No wonder they broke down on the factory floor.
9:05 What is that vehicle in Berlin Brigade colours?
Fox arv
@@davidbell1250 cheers mate. I have plans for a 1/35 Berlin Brigade Chieftain and another smaller vehicle in smaller colours will look great.
How many former REME's work at the tank museum?
What is the worst tank to maintain out of all the tanks at your mueseum?
Man stuff .
Restore the Churchill Gun Carrier in the back yard, ya bunch of muppets!!!
I suspect that one needs an act of god not the work of mechanics. They'd have more luck trying to fix those Chieftain spider sanctuaries behind the arena.
Can we come to visit these tanks ?
Yes check out the Tank museum website on Google for opening hours,special events,merchandise etc ( I'm an ex-trooper who was based in Bovington for a number of years)
In addition to the previous reply, if you can do it you should try to visit tankfest so you can see the tanks running as well as see them up close in the museum.
I was a little worried about that title. Thought I had missed 6 episodes of work on the Valentine. 🙄
TIL even the Allieds were in need of a good Axis...
Galery
Why didn't the valentine see more use? Low profile, good gun, good armour, lightweight, easy to produce iirc train companies produced parts for it and so on. It's only real fault as far as i can see on the wiki seems to be low speed and mobility thanks to the less than ideal engines.
Don't you mean "where there's a WHEEL, there's a way?
it's not a challenger ! it's a citroen DS !
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do this tank workshop have a king tiger tank / maus tank
They have a couple of Tiger twos, no Maus.
Maybe its the angle, but anyone know what the guy is working on @16:02?
I think it might be an m113. I dont remember seeing one when I was at bovington but they have a load of stuff thats not on display.
Dad joke deluxe? Does he say "where there is a wheel there is a way" or does he say "Where there is a will there is a way"?
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That track tension is unbearingble
The best way to fix a valentine is put it on a semi and take it to the scrapyard to get crushed and smelted down.
You might think that, but a lot of people went to war in them, fought & died in them, & that makes a running Valentine living history that deserves to be preserved.
Flat head driver bolts lol. Only British in tanks lol
Gloves and machining, bad mix! #safetyfirst
Within reason. Sometimes the safety rules are written by lawyers, and that's not good for actually getting the job done.