The BIZARRE ENDING to Jim Turner's CAREER
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Prior to the start of the 1980 NFL season, Denver Broncos kicker Jim Turner was showing no signs of slowing down, as the 2nd leading kicker in NFL history from a field goals made standpoint was going to be Denver's starting kicker for the brand-new season. However, the Denver Broncos let him go in what had to be the strangest of ways possible, to the point where they absolutely screwed him over for no good reason at all
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RIP Jim Turner from a Raiders fan. Thanks for the memories.
Thank you for giving Jim Turner a proper send off. I’d forgotten those front office shenanigans the Broncos put him through.
I still vividly remember when he scored a receiving touchdown on a fake field goal against the Raiders in the Broncos ‘77 season.
To see him chugging down field in those high tops is etched forever in my memory.
Rest in Peace, Jim Turner.
Ol' High Tops. 😢
RIP. One of my favorite Jets.
Fun fact: Fred Gehrke actually designed and painted the first ever NFL logo when he put horns on the Rams helmet in 1948. Yes, this was his idea. Until then, no NFL team had helmet logos. Gehrke also designed the first ever facemask. He did all this while still playing BTW.
Really sucks how kickers and punters get treated. In a lot of cases not knowing if you have a job from one to the next. You have to have a strong Will to survive this
I'm a Bronco fan, and I am old enough to remember him. Sorry to hear that he died.
Congrats to your Denver Nuggets
RIP JIM TURNER
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 thanks
As a Jets fan, I would like to thank Jim for his ability to successfully master the Shea Stadium winds for seven seasons. I will always remember his touchdown catch vs Oakland in 1977.
Was that a fake field goal play? I will look it up now.....Comrade Dobler's channel features highlights of each week in the '77 season.
@@67marlins Yes, it was a fake field goal attempt. I still remember it even to this day. And I was a Baltimore Colts fan then!
@lsmftymf I found Comrade Dobler's "1977 Week 6" post, but it didn't show that fake field goal in the John Facenda weekly highlights..?!? The Raiders won, unfortunately. In that game Richard Todd really cut loose.
R.I.P Jim Turner
good job. met him as a kid in Denver in70s. RIP
Football was different then, and kickers even weirder.
Enjoyed this especially for the (seemingly rare) footage of Charley Johnson setting Turner's kicks. Johnson himself is a rarity, with a PhD earned as a player.
CJOHNSON taught PETROCHEM ENGINEERING at his alma mater N.MEX. STATE for 40 years..
Of the Broncos Super Bowl XII loss to the Cowboys, Turner said, "We were out there thinking about winning. They were out there thinking about football."
Thanks, STEVE SABOL..
Fantastic video! Jim Turner played on two of my favorite teams, the 1968 N.Y. Jets and the 1977 Denver Broncos. I never saw him play with the Jets but saw him on TV plenty of times during his years in Denver. I consider these to be his top three field goals as a Bronco:
12/24/77 - With 7:17 to play Turner drills a 44 yard field goal to give Denver a 24-21 lead over Pittsburgh in the Broncos first ever playoff appearance. These points were critical and provided Denver with momentum to finish off the Steelers in the 4th quarter.
10/22/73 - Turner kicks a 35 yard field goal with seven seconds left to tie Oakland 23-23. It was Denver's first appearance on ABC's Monday Night Football.
10/19/75 - Turner kicks a career high 53 yard field goal on the final play of the game to beat Cleveland 16-15.
Jim Turner's last game was on August 16, 1980, a pre-season match-up at the Medowlands versus the N.Y. Giants. Turner did not attempt a field goal but had an extra point blocked. The Broncos released him the following week. I remember listening to KOA sports talk the day he was released and many fans were not happy. I had totally forgotten about all the drama that played out afterward.
R.I.P. Reliable Jim Turner 🏈
Congrats to the Denver Nuggets coming from a Lakers fan
I didn't realize until recently that Bobby Howfield, the man the Broncos traded to the Jets for Turner, played pro soccer in England for a dozen years before taking up American football; a video on him would be welcome.
We grew up in the same town. His brother was Vice Principal of the high school and Jim would substitute teach during the off season
Thank you
Great kicker old style. RIP
So disrespectful!! Really a shame!! Low balling him with their offer was a way to move on. Management was trying to look good. NFL can be really cruel!!
I'm not sure what the Broncos' suits were thinking. After all he did for that franchise-he was still a viable kicker, too-the Broncos did him dirty. Thank goodness he and Broncos made up after that, though.
Jim Turner kicked off to begin the 2nd half of the first Monday Night Football game, and Homer Jones, who returned it for a touchdown, died on June 14, 2023 at the age of 82, four days after Turner.
WOW!!
H. JONES was from my now late Dad's hometown= PITTSBURG, TX.(NO H IN PITT.).. JONES went to pre-integration high school FREDERICK DOUGLASS..his mom was a schoolteacher there and his dad worked for LONE STAR STEEL located in the community of LONE STAR east of PITT.
HOMER JONES played college football at HBCU=TEXAS SOUTHERN U. in Houston..The AFL HOU. Oilers drafted him, then watched him hurt his knee in camp before cutting him.
The NFL NY GIANTS who also drafted him picked him up, and the rest is history. They paid his knee surgery bill.
ONE MORE THING..
H. JONES was the very first NFL player to...
SPIKE A FOOTBALL after he scored a TDOWN..
He said he did not want to emulate GB PACKERS- PAUL HORNUNG OR JIM TAYLOR, or EVEN his ex-teamate FRANK GIFFORD OF NYG, and throw the ball in the stands, so he found, he said, a "safer way" to celebrate a TD..
The NFL started fining players for throwing the ball in the stands in '65, THE YEAR OF THE FIRST JONES SPIKE of which he almost threw the ball in ..the stands, but stopped himself, WITH A fine-free SPIKE. That 89 yd catch was the longest of the 1965-66 NFL SEASON..
HOMER JONES died of lung cancer at 82..the same age as JIM TURNER..
R.I.P.,
Number 45..85 with the BROWNS, his last team..
OH, he is the NFL record holder for average yds. per catch lifetime with at least 200 career regular season catches= 22.3 yds per reception.
In 1967 he averaged over 24 yds a reception on 49 catches= over 1200 yds in recs. and led the NFL IN TD CATCHES AND COMBINED TDs RUSHING and RECEIVING= 14
(1 RUSHING)..
RIP..
This clip was uploaded on my birthday and I’ve searched up classics like Super Bowl III and seeing him kick that 9 yard field goal which you don’t see today. I didn’t even know he had died on or around my birthday coincidentally.
Turner and Elam are the only two Broncos special teams players in their Ring of Honor? Really surprised Rick Upchurch isn't in the Broncos Ring of Honor. Upchurch was the best or 2nd best return man in the NFL (Along with White Shoes Johnson) from about 1976 until 1983. Upchurch even has THREE 1st Team All Pros. Wow.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think John Ralston is in the Broncos ROH either
Upchurch was inducted into the Broncos Ring of Honor in 2014.
They did Turner dirty they way they treated him...
As a jets fan we will always have fond memories of Jim Turner. I was not aware of drama around him being cut that summer. May he rest in peace
His best moment ever was catching a TD pass on a fake field goal.
How sad. Very messed up by Denver.
Broncos tweeted their tribute to Jim Turner. Disappointed the Jets didn't do likewise.
If you watch his technique, he had kind of a strange follow through
R.I.P
Hopefully you have better audio in your new place, because I have to crank all of your videos up to be able to hear you.
Fred Steinfort had the distinction of putting both George Blanda and Jim Turner out of their jobs.
Steinfort was garbage as it turned out
He should be in The Jets Ring Of Honor.
I agree! he belongs in HOF for some reason a lot of the great old Broncos players are being overlooked. tombstone Jackson Paul Smith Tom Jackson Randy Gradishar Otis Armstrong RileyOdems Roland Jones as a small 🧒 Child growing up in the 70s these were my childhood Hero’s 🙏 blessings to them all
I've read or heard more than one knowledgeable person-- including Lyle Alzado-- say that Rich Tombstone Jackson was one of the 2 best DEs in NFL history. I agree. Also, Gradishar should be in the HoF yesterday
@@eugenedenbrook322 thanks buddy I appreciate that 🙏 oh I forgot John Keyworth he was really good Full back I'm amazed I was only 10 years old but I still can remember those days like they were yesterday and the players our lovable losers but they were our heroes
Yup. For some reason Broncos tend to get overlooked for the HOF. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say if Randy Gradishar had played for the Steelers and Jack Lambert had played for the Broncos, Gradishar would be in the HOF and Lambert wouldn't.
It’s clear the Broncos didn’t know what they were doing before Pat Bowlen bought the team.
jets kicker in s b lll. 10 pts. in game.
Sorry to hear of his passing.
The ads are out of control bro. Not worth the frustration to watch.
Jim Turner may have gotten the last laugh as karma hit Fred Gehkre and Red Miller the two instrumental in this travesty as Edgar Kaiser bought the team after the 1980 season and fired Gehkre and Miller despite a Super Bowl trip two AFC West titles and a wild card playoff spot from them between 1977 and 1980.
Thank god the fans didn't show the lack of respect the state of the organization was in at that time did to Turner. It was the same year Red Miller salivated over Matt Robinson to play QB despite Craig Morton still playing heads and tails better and the wasted offensive talent that alternated at RB and WR in that system. 1980...a year that left a bad taste in a lot of Bronco fans mouths.
RIP Jim. I know for special team players getting in the HOF is very difficult, but Turner really deserves the votes.
COMPLETELY AGREE! 👍👍👍👍
Maybe some day the Veterans Committee will get him voted in!
sounds like the broncos had followed the chargers example in how they did rolf benirscke
Even though he actually played more years on Broncos I'll always think of him on Jets
turner was ok not great imo. 16 nfl seasons isnt terrible. he made the difference in SB 3. RIP jim. youll always be remembered.
I don't think you made your point very clearly. Why don't you tell us how you really feel about this.
rip jim turner
Scheduling quirk video idea.... why did the 1989 Packers of the NFC Central division play regular season home and away vs. the Cowboys of the NFC East?
Interesting
Both the Packers and Cowboys finished last in 1988 in each of the NFC's two five-team divisions, and so they played twice in '89.
Also, Tampa and Dallas finished last in those divisions in '89 and played each other two times in 1990.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about Super Bowl 3 and Super Bowl 12, the two Super Bowls in which Turner kicked.
1. Didn't realize he died until I saw this video.
2. And of course the higher elevation of Denver probably helped how accuracy.
3. Mile High Stadium also had baseball for a long time (Denver Bears), but UT seemed to be better maintained than Shea was.
The elevation wouldn't help accuracy. If anything, the increased range would cause coaches to attempt lengthier, more difficult kicks.
@@pullt Almost commented to say this. Elevation helps distance, not accuracy.
@@stuartdollar9912 What I find amazing is just how unwise so many attempts were in those days. You had the line of scrimmage spot on missed field goals then that wasn't as punishing as spot of kick, which makes longer tries more worthwhile. However, you had the goalpost at the goal line for most of Turner's career, so on a missed 40 yard kick, do the field position on missed kick is 3 up ards worse for the kicking team.
With how even the best kickers were so bad at anything over 35-40 yards, it is amazing how many coaches in those conservative days were comfortable with rolling the dice.
@@pullt Actually, you didn't have the line of scrimmage spot until the 1974 season. Prior to that, missed field goals from the line of scrimmage that were longer than 20 resulted in the opposing team getting the ball on their own 20. Which was even less punishing.
@@stuartdollar9912 Ahh ok. At least you didn't get a rouge back then or coaches would have been even more rock hard to miss field goals
His name is Steinfort
Does this sound like the Leno/O'Brien situation?
Little bit.
It was time for Turner to go! His kickoffs were horrible. There were games in 78-79 where his average kickoff were reaching the opponents 15 yard line. Or worse.
The writing was on the wall. Steinfort was dressed for the 79 Wild Card loss to the Oilers and blasted a long kick off the upright in that game. And Steinfort was GREAT in 1980 before his disastrous 81 season
you continue to carry on and rant - it became to annoying to continue - 1 minute and 11 seconds - say something else, rephrase, but don't be a 5 year old!
One more in the long list of reasons to rightfully regard the broncos as typical of the weak, washed-up and semi-pro old AFC West.
6:29 "Out of 25 qualified kickers in football, this ranked 10th. So he was insice the top 40 in the league in that category."
Wouldn't he also have ranked inside the top 25, top 30 and top 11?? Hell, I was born in 1983 and I managed to rank inside the top 100....
I think JagGator meant to say he was in the top 40% of the league, which #10 out of 25 is.
He missed closed to 200 Field Goals
Different era, and because he was so good he had to attempt a lot more difficult kick's
He made a lot of good kicks for the Broncos but also missed some that would've made some of their games not so close and nail biting lol, like the '77 Championship game against Oakland, he miseed three field goals that game. But he did a LOT more good than bad, Rest in Peace...
@@BroncosCountry58 difficult kicks? If difficult meaning over 45 yards then ok but I don’t think the reason for missing almost 200 kicks is because of their difficulty
@@lesschoenberger3070 he could have single handed cost the Broncos the game and if the refs didn’t blow the Rob Lytle fumble then it very well would’ve been Dallas and Oakland in the SB
@@BigD32477 Raiders kicker Errol Mann missed at least one that day so that helped. And Jack Dolbin caught a touchdown pass that was nullified, refs said it hit the ground, Dolbin said "it was the greatest catch of my life but I won't get credit for it", so Denver also got the shaft, not just the Raiders and the Lytle fumble, but that's all anyone ever talks about, they forget about the Dolbin catch!