Chamath is the Chief Sandcastle Kicker. I occasionally enjoy his critiques but they often come from his need to hear himself pontificate. I suggest he recalibrate his humility a few notches.
He's correct but missed the fact that one has to consider the ENTIRE ENERGY INPUT. It takes a lot of energy to make the Duterium and Tritium. Then the ENERGY to operate the lasers and other equipment. Think SYSTEM not parts.
There is a large contingent of people getting tired of this kayfabe bs. There is a celebration every few years with the proclamation X will be solved in the next 5 years and nothing happens. There hasn't been a major breakthrough in the sciences for decades now, we've been solving cancer in the next 5 years for like 50 years. Same goes for fusion. There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty going on here.
@@cyberftin his interview with Lex he was talking about how solar can always work in the clouds as if the percentage of energy gained was the same… cannot find any solar panels that don’t lose efficiency in the clouds but maybe he knows something I don’t 🤷🏼
@@cyberft lol right. Mass grid scale storage all for apparently 1.5 cents per KWH. Ummmm what!?! Why is Germany that has 150% of peak power demand in generating capacity not just paying a few cents more to store it instead of buying significantly more expensive LNG
But for his over the top name dropping. Why brag about his access to stars. Must be the first time and he has to proclaim his arrival. He is also grifting shamelessly. Lowers the value of his opinions, as if he cares what people think....
I found myself on an exceedingly rare occasion, totally disagreeing with Chamath, and fully siding with Friedberg on this fusion breakthrough. Not every breakthrough should only be looked at from perspective of riding down a cost curve or from a that of a 5-10 year return multiple of a private capital allocator. I agree with Friedberg that if you had a portfolio for humanity, 5% of that should be for moon shots. On the topic of fusion, if you only look at it from the lens of cents/KWH for power generation, it would be very short-sighted IMO. I think one must look at the 100X or 100K X potential which could be a decade or so away, and it could be beyond just power generation. 20 or so years ago, when Elon founded SpaceX, capital allocators would have probably scoffed at the unit economics of a Mars mission. But what came out of the exploratory mindset was amazing adjacent innovations (like Starlink) and efficient payload delivery to space. I don't think dreaming about the future possibilities is intellectual dishonesty. On the contrary, willful myopia probably is. PS: I'm a huge fan of All-in. But I think you folks should stop bludgeoning Friedberg with that Uranus joke - I'm tired of this and we should move on, I think.
@@bobbyaxelrod5959 Yeah, usually Chamath's arguments are very analytical. Meaning - they are based on facts & data. The vile attack on Friedberg seemed very personal, baseless and prejudiced.
@@bobbyaxelrod5959 Haha, I thought the exact same thing. If you only rarely disagree with him you probably base your opinions on a tone of voice rather than the content of speech.
I have friends working in the nuclear energy industry and never once did I hear such a concise and understandable explanation of the phenomenon of fusion.
Genuinely one of the best episodes ever - though Chamath didn’t need to co-opt the fusion story in that way to air what turned out to be his actual grievance with Freidberg - that’s intellectual dishonesty too
Talks like this from Fried (droughts, energy tech, etc.) and subsequent debates from the rest are what made this pod so special back in the OG days; more of these vs the same "media are bad" regurgitations every week please!
Chamath’s “fusion exists already” just feels like a trite tag line. When combustion engines were invented would he have said “combustion already exists, it’s called wood and coal”
Guys Don't sacrifice Dr. Friedburg , shooting him with a powerful laser will not give us unlimited energy, this podcast must go on . Truly appreciate the discord you guys have on this podcast .
Please no talk on birth rate collapse if you can't address women and girls being murdered, enslaved, cheated on, and financially depleted by men. Women don't want to have children in this world. I'm sure you can create some test tube pods and make people that way. Good start on a venture there.
I think nuclear fusion is important because it makes space travel more viable. Nuclear-powered engines generate much more thrust than chemical and you can use fusion to travel faster when your actually in space. You’ll also have a source of energy in places where the sunlight doesn’t have as much intensity. Hydrogen is also the most abundant element in the universe.
Oh man, I am so happy to hear you guys talk about comedy. I thought the most pathetic thing that happened over the last 3 years was when Netflix employees walked out of their well paying jobs in protest of a joke. I didn’t hear anyone in the MSM negatively cover that which outraged me. Hysterical people trying to cancel laughter was a tipping point for me. I am so glad sensible people feel the same way as I do regarding comedy. Everyone needs a good laugh, those Netflix employees should be ashamed of themselves.
Chamath wanting Elon to work on mars then getting emo on Frieberg for one of the breakthroughs that are probably necessary for interplanetary travel to be a thing...
The higher up you get, the more resonsibility you have abd your mind is never fully switched off from work and often the hours are long. But... the more your "work" looks like sitting around and having a chat. Meeting after meeting, lunches, dinners, business trips. These guys read, talk and make decisions. Its not that grueling as long as they have built a good team around them.
@@bikesbeersbeats yep, a lot of people don't understand that there is a reason you get paid a lot to do high level management and the reason is that most people can't do it well. Hope your trip brings about a good outcome.
If genocide is below his line of concerns, he scams retail out of billions via SPACs, dumps his discounted crypto tokens on retail, I doubt he will apologise for this.
Friedberg is the only honest one on this podcast. Everybody sees this. For that reason I predict this thing will end soon or the other three will have Friedberg removed.
Elon Musk: "My plane is actually not trackable without using non-public data" Jack Sweeney: "Elon got PIA but I've already identified it! ... Yeah so the PIA ICAO can be changed monthly if chosen to do so but even then, it's relatively easy to identify I'm confident I can write software to identify it actually."
Chamath is a brilliant guy with lots of great things to say and I never grow tired of his insights and perspectives. But to be fair he needs to let Friedberg speak and be respectful of his thoughts, opinions and expertise as well. He did seem triggered and it's worth reflecting on why. Still love this podcast! Just want to see everyone get along. All you guys rock and are doing a great job. Mad respect and appreciation for the All-in crew!
The biggest problem with the censoring wasn't this petty stuff. It was the overreaction to COVID encouraged by bots on behalf of people financially benefiting from the actions the government then took. Real Americans voices were silenced. None of us were committed to post our own research and data and the facts. We were completely overruled. There have been numerous other situations such as the war in Ukraine and others that have been treated similarly. These are crucial issues that affect the direction & survival of our nation, and differing viewpoints and information must be permitted. That's why Elon bought Twitter, not all of this other nonsense.
I totally disagree with the viewers. Chamath had great points. But as always I love the arguments. Honestly this is one of the only places as listeners we can be protected from an echo chamber and we can hear multiple sides of an issue. Love what you guys do .
Chammath getting irrationally emotional towards Friedberg about this is all you need to know about the kind of person he is. Chamath has spun his snake oil salesman pitch with his SPACs, and solar (in the stock market) has already bubbled. Solar is inefficient, it’s great for your house in the right regions of the world. But grid scale solar takes up A LOT OF SPACE. It’s INEFFICIENT. The storage problem isn’t even close to being solved. At this moment, a mix of generation methods is important. But generation methods like wind and solar will be looked at like how we look at coal. They work, good to have, but they’re crude and wasteful. This next generation of compact and clean energy is what the world will need.
Another excellent episode and really appreciated the drastically different opinions from Chamath and Friedberg to better understand the fusion topic. I didn’t think J Cal’s interrupting, sentence finishing for others, answering his own questions as a moderator, or finding spots to remind listeners of his early Uber investment could be eclipsed by name dropping, That detailed play by play to ensure he captured every detail of his evening was hard to listen to and like nothing I have ever heard starting ‘so I text Draymond’. Any of the others would have said - so I went to Chapelle and CR on Saturday- what amazing entertainers etc….. Unbelievable and the only drawback of this outstanding pod.
It’s actually really helpful-to how I probably act in biased and blind ways-to see how Chamath’s solar investments completely blind him to the fusion thesis laid out by Friedberg. Chamath calling people intellectually dishonest, when it turns out he was being disingenuous with his critiques! Yeah, we have one solar reactor in the sky, but taking million of fusion reactors throughout the universe with us is helpful!
I don’t like Chamath throwing shade on nuclear, it’s likely because he’s not invested in it. All renewable energies should be pursued especially the ones that can be fitted into the current grid
This is the first ever episode that I liked Jason's Moderation, it was top notch (one of the very few times, no hard feelings Jason!). Less interruptions, very good questions, keeping light mood when things got intense between Chamath & Friedberg, no stupid ivory-tower biased opinions about countries he has no clue about (China/Saudi), no biden trump BS. It was pure moderation rather than pushing for a personal agenda. Please keep it like that Jason.
Chamath really seemed to be a Luddite when talking about the energy breakthrough. Does he actually care about sustainability or solely in his investments in solar ?
Thanks for a great stream/ conversation. MUCH better than the past 2 episodes. Calm & thoughtful conversation, science, tech, investing.... what we love to hear from these 4 friends.👏👏
Can we grow up and stop insulting Friedburg with Uranus jokes. He's the only member on this podcast who has yet to rudely criticize any of you even when he disagrees with your opinion. The man clearly wouldn't hurt a fly but the fact that you guys step on him when you disagree and that he respectfully doesn't respond with the same demeanor shows who the bigger man is. Much love Friedburg, wouldn't watch this podcast without you.
But I felt Chamath was... not imposing but... pushing his point because he has a big investment in solar energy. He is bias and, as such, we should take his position with a 40-50% degree of skepticism
Friedberg is the only reason this podcast has any integrity left. He was courageous enough to call hypocrisy of elon musk, unlike rest of the boot lickers. Absolute king
Thank you all - for sharing information on a bunch of topics (Giving away info. for free - is a form of service). It's a delight to watch you folks arguing/fighting in a friendly way.
What is missing in your discussion is the cost of transmission. Here in FL it costs about $0.05 per kWh to transmit electricity. If I can provide my power locally with solar at $0.03 per kWh including sufficient battery storage cost, then the only remaining use for the grid is to gather excess solar power from homes and ship it to high-rise buildings, superchargers and industrial processes. Any centralized energy source, even at zero cost is not competitive where you have space for solar. See Tony Seba’s TH-cam lecture on energy trends.
I found it interesting that most of the scientists involved at the Fusion press conference spoke about the implications for nuclear weapon systems testing and verification.
Those folks were dead serious about where and why their funding for the project came from. It was like holding a huge sign that said "keep pumping mass amounts of money into military spending".
Elon is showing that free speech only works for him and those he likes, which is the epitome of double standards and the exact opposite of what he spouts off endlessly about. Hypo-criticism at its finest and makes him seem like an airhead with unsubstantiated ideas that only sound good on paper but not in real life.
I love this podcast...amazing discussions. The main question I have as a business owner, is what are all these employees doing in these silicon valley firms if they can come in an cut staff by 50%? If the business can run optimally with half the employees, then there is complete mismanagement of the firm with bloated employee counts....reminds me of the Silicon Valley show where Big Head and others were up on the roof sunning all day because they had nothing to do at their jobs.
In previous weeks, some of these guys celebrated the return of twitter accounts whose sole purpose was to mock a subset of people. if elon was one of those people being mocked, he'd enforce a rule to put a stop to it. this location rule was not created with others in mind, it was created with elon in mind.
awesome talk - except for friedberg I think doxing is a very dangerous thing and elon did the right thing to shut it down. Doxxing is illegal in LA and Friedberg totally missed the point. I wonder what would he do, if his kid is being stalked because of doxxing? elon "accepted" it at PERSONAL risk, not risk to his family. If you guys talk about stuff please make sure to get the facts right. many people look up to you and will believe what you say, without factchecking it further....
What a twist at the end… after all the talk of how hard founders, and company employees are going to have to work “50, 60, 70 hours per week…” the crew laments about time wasting HBO Series and how each are clearly well versed and have been intensely watching. Think Sheryl Crow has a well fitting song about this:)
I love it when Chamath tries to take on Friedberg. For all his bloviating we have to acknowledge Chamath is wrong time and time again on nearly every issue and Friedberg is always the most on point and willing to state hard truths.
@chamath 1- Computation has always existed (maths and logic) and the invention was harnessing it, then scaling it... Genome decoding has always existed (DNA & mRNA transcription) and the invention was harnessing it, then scaling it. 2- the intellectual dishonesty is conflating energy capture (solar cells) with generation (fusion reactors) ... hmm I wonder where Chamath is invested in renewable energy.
"This is the most naval-gazing, head-up-your-a**, scientific bullsh*t I've ever heard." - Chamath "Chamath, why are you angry at me?" - DF "I'm not angry. I don't find this intellectually honest." - Chamath ...hm.
Chamath's chilled-down explanation at 37:10 brings much more intellectually honest context to his initial uncontrolled, over-emotional response. IMO it's a shame it took however long for him to calm down and be a little more upfront about why he attacked DF's report. It's almost as if Chamath could see his money disappearing right in front of his eyes the more DF spoke passionately about this new truth, and he needed to create a bottleneck immediately. Albeit temporarily.
So we’ve been fusing atoms for quite a while. The important thing to remember is that this, on a net basis, produced energy. We’ve come closer and closer using different technologies and we’ve, I believe, finally reached a tipping point.
Love the show, y’all give a dynamic insight into what is happening, what’s coming, along with how it will affect markets. As a first gen American/kid of old immigrants, I feel like hearing how you guys are enforcing your good spending / money management habits would really go a long way… Love the show. Looking forward to getting insights on how to moderate the conspicuous side of consumption with wealth wisdom 🙏🏾💫🤙🏾
I originally started watching this show because of Chamath. The only reason I watch it today is because of Friedberg... Chamath is smart but as his popularity grows, it seems its getting to his head the way he speak down/over people and demands they "let him finish" after interrupting and shutting them down. One of the things I originally respected about Chamath other than his wit was his humility based on what he came from. Be a man you'd look up to as a kid, don't lose patience, don't lose respect. Much love guys, keep it up but work on the respect for one another
Chamath is the Chief Sandcastle Kicker. I occasionally enjoy his critiques but they often come from his need to hear himself pontificate. I suggest he recalibrate his humility a few notches.
He’s been hurling insults in the last couple eps seems disrespectful
Sandcastle Kicker is a perfect description lol I don’t know why he can’t express a viewpoint without attaching an insult
Asking an arrogant charlatan to act with humbleness is like preaching in the desert.
I now skip forward whenever Chamath opens his mouth and find that I enjoy the show much more.
He's correct but missed the fact that one has to consider the ENTIRE ENERGY INPUT.
It takes a lot of energy to make the Duterium and Tritium. Then the ENERGY to operate the lasers and other equipment. Think SYSTEM not parts.
Friedberg has a unique ability to make complex topics palatable. Got to love it.
Also, afaik he doesn't insult others to make his point.
Friedberg is my favorite
Palatable. I like it
He’s possibly suggesting-fluid electrical energy-TESLA
For you. He's wrong on many things. It's all I.Q.
Chamath really embarrassed himself in the fusion discussion, David F. again demonstrates why he’s the most nuanced.
There is a large contingent of people getting tired of this kayfabe bs. There is a celebration every few years with the proclamation X will be solved in the next 5 years and nothing happens. There hasn't been a major breakthrough in the sciences for decades now, we've been solving cancer in the next 5 years for like 50 years. Same goes for fusion. There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty going on here.
He was being so ruuuude, no reason!
@@cyberftin his interview with Lex he was talking about how solar can always work in the clouds as if the percentage of energy gained was the same… cannot find any solar panels that don’t lose efficiency in the clouds but maybe he knows something I don’t 🤷🏼
Come for Jason and Chamath, stay for Sacks and Friedburg. Same story in all recent podcast episodes.
@@cyberft lol right. Mass grid scale storage all for apparently 1.5 cents per KWH. Ummmm what!?! Why is Germany that has 150% of peak power demand in generating capacity not just paying a few cents more to store it instead of buying significantly more expensive LNG
Chamath accusing Friedberg of intellectual dishonestly while emotionally defending his solar book was surreal.
He’s stupid
Wow you discovered a thesaurus !
Charlatan Chamath is a joke
non of us did any research so maybe we should shut it/
Also his ego got out of control, he can't stand that friedberg is more knowledgeable. It happens.
Chamath calling Friedberg intellectually dishonest? That's rich. Chamath is talking his book.
Seriously
So obvious, I don't get how they miss it, and call him on this. It's disgusting
definitely sounds like he has heavy solar bags lol
Chamath is a self propagandist. He’s very non self aware.
I agree it was one of his worst takes ever. It’s clear that his solar and battery investments go against this achievement.
hats off to Jason for being sober and self-aware in this episode.
He was probably hungover from last night. Man completely lost his sanity on twitter spaces last night.
damn really that’s a shame
@@familiarshadow1 what he say
I don’t like him he controls the conversation and topics.. instead of letting them flow
But for his over the top name dropping. Why brag about his access to stars. Must be the first time and he has to proclaim his arrival. He is also grifting shamelessly. Lowers the value of his opinions, as if he cares what people think....
The fact that JCal and Sacks can be friends gives me hope for humanity.
probably because the grew up in an era when politics did not influence friendship.
Ahh yes the "hope for humanity" commment. Aka ..like my post!
Friedberg was in his element on this episode
Unofriedbergium
Best description of fusion I've ever heard.
He always is. Unfortunately, Sacks seems to have Elon’s ear and is ruining him.
I see what you did there 😉
Chammath being performatively triggered to signal insight is like his only wrestling move.
This comment is fire
Spot on
Exactly, it's so embarrassing to watch
I found myself on an exceedingly rare occasion, totally disagreeing with Chamath, and fully siding with Friedberg on this fusion breakthrough. Not every breakthrough should only be looked at from perspective of riding down a cost curve or from a that of a 5-10 year return multiple of a private capital allocator. I agree with Friedberg that if you had a portfolio for humanity, 5% of that should be for moon shots. On the topic of fusion, if you only look at it from the lens of cents/KWH for power generation, it would be very short-sighted IMO. I think one must look at the 100X or 100K X potential which could be a decade or so away, and it could be beyond just power generation. 20 or so years ago, when Elon founded SpaceX, capital allocators would have probably scoffed at the unit economics of a Mars mission. But what came out of the exploratory mindset was amazing adjacent innovations (like Starlink) and efficient payload delivery to space.
I don't think dreaming about the future possibilities is intellectual dishonesty. On the contrary, willful myopia probably is.
PS: I'm a huge fan of All-in. But I think you folks should stop bludgeoning Friedberg with that Uranus joke - I'm tired of this and we should move on, I think.
This is best form of “The joke is not funny” I’ve read. I respect this. Therefore, I will no longer laugh at the Uranus jokes.
I hope.
Agreed, we should stop bludgeoning Uranus.
@@bobbyaxelrod5959 Yeah, usually Chamath's arguments are very analytical. Meaning - they are based on facts & data. The vile attack on Friedberg seemed very personal, baseless and prejudiced.
@@bobbyaxelrod5959 Haha, I thought the exact same thing. If you only rarely disagree with him you probably base your opinions on a tone of voice rather than the content of speech.
Yes. Drop the Uranus references, come up something other than "Canary in the coal mine" and "steelman," we know you can do it Chamath.
Friedberg makes this show so interesting
He's the only one with a brain.
I have friends working in the nuclear energy industry and never once did I hear such a concise and understandable explanation of the phenomenon of fusion.
Chamath has probably invested in solar 😂
I didn’t know before this show but I guessed when he argued so emotionally. 😝
At least emotionally invested
Genuinely one of the best episodes ever - though Chamath didn’t need to co-opt the fusion story in that way to air what turned out to be his actual grievance with Freidberg - that’s intellectual dishonesty too
lol have you ever heard Chamath before? This is par for the course for him
He always does that to Freidberg lol
I come here for Friedberg. His intellectual honesty, balance and ability to deeply understand and layman explain complex topics is insane 🎉❤
The irony is that Friedberg is the most intellectually honest out of all the besties. He also manages to be the most unbiased.
So true, sometimes i forget what his personal view is because he is very good at understanding and presenting the other side of any argument.
Facts
A heart warming throwback to the old pods. A conversation rather than monologues, and Chamath virtue signaling and insulting everyone.
Talks like this from Fried (droughts, energy tech, etc.) and subsequent debates from the rest are what made this pod so special back in the OG days; more of these vs the same "media are bad" regurgitations every week please!
THIS!
Chamath’s “fusion exists already” just feels like a trite tag line. When combustion engines were invented would he have said “combustion already exists, it’s called wood and coal”
Anyone else see Sachs fall asleep the second Freiburg started explaining fusion? 😂😂
He always tunes out. He used to be trading Sol but now he's just falling asleep.
I was falling asleep too!
Chamath's emotions get the best of him most of the time. Came out full force in this ep.
You guys have the most intellectually stimulating podcast on the face of the earth. It’s so refreshing. I’m so tired of mainstream media. Thank you!
JCal is living proof that: "it's not what you know (nothing of value) it's who you know (billionaire friends)"
He's an inspiration to me.
Hey Phil, something an entrepreneur told me at a winery one time was, "Everyone says it's who you know, it's not just that. It's who knows you."
“I’ll call your intellectual dishonesty and raise you a steel man.” 😂
Guys Don't sacrifice Dr. Friedburg , shooting him with a powerful laser will not give us unlimited energy, this podcast must go on . Truly appreciate the discord you guys have on this podcast .
Fry Chamath instead
Besties keeping fans on their toes with a Friday morning drop!! Time to get that coffee brewing! ☕
3am ain’t morning on the left coast bro!😂
Please no talk on birth rate collapse if you can't address women and girls being murdered, enslaved, cheated on, and financially depleted by men. Women don't want to have children in this world. I'm sure you can create some test tube pods and make people that way. Good start on a venture there.
Im enjoying this flying across Australia. God damn I’m grateful for this podcast and space internet.
As usual I’m 100% in lockstep with David Sachs
I think nuclear fusion is important because it makes space travel more viable. Nuclear-powered engines generate much more thrust than chemical and you can use fusion to travel faster when your actually in space. You’ll also have a source of energy in places where the sunlight doesn’t have as much intensity. Hydrogen is also the most abundant element in the universe.
Oh man, I am so happy to hear you guys talk about comedy. I thought the most pathetic thing that happened over the last 3 years was when Netflix employees walked out of their well paying jobs in protest of a joke. I didn’t hear anyone in the MSM negatively cover that which outraged me. Hysterical people trying to cancel laughter was a tipping point for me. I am so glad sensible people feel the same way as I do regarding comedy. Everyone needs a good laugh, those Netflix employees should be ashamed of themselves.
Friedberg was the MVP of this episode. Topics were more diverse which was good. Let's discuss energy more...
Chamath wanting Elon to work on mars then getting emo on Frieberg for one of the breakthroughs that are probably necessary for interplanetary travel to be a thing...
I loved Jcal saying you have to work 50,60,70 hours per week to make it as skiers fly down the slope behind him. Funny clip.
The higher up you get, the more resonsibility you have abd your mind is never fully switched off from work and often the hours are long.
But... the more your "work" looks like sitting around and having a chat.
Meeting after meeting, lunches, dinners, business trips.
These guys read, talk and make decisions. Its not that grueling as long as they have built a good team around them.
@@bikesbeersbeats yep, a lot of people don't understand that there is a reason you get paid a lot to do high level management and the reason is that most people can't do it well.
Hope your trip brings about a good outcome.
Friedberg honestly was hurt from Chammath. CHAMMATH APOLOGIZE
yes we demand it
If genocide is below his line of concerns, he scams retail out of billions via SPACs, dumps his discounted crypto tokens on retail, I doubt he will apologise for this.
Reading the comments during and after the podcast, is just as enjoyable and insightful…. Love the pod and its audience!
Friedberg, Sacks, JCal were great in this episode. I did like Chamath mentioning the 1.5 cent solar energy coming, but he did it in a horrible way
Friedberg is the only honest one on this podcast. Everybody sees this. For that reason I predict this thing will end soon or the other three will have Friedberg removed.
A high intellectual debate that is both entertaining and easy to grasp is sporadic on the internet, and we thank you for sharing your knowledge to us!
Lovely pod!! Absolutely love the "more science" + "more business" direction. I learn so much from all of you besties!!
Elon Musk: "My plane is actually not trackable without using non-public data"
Jack Sweeney: "Elon got PIA but I've already identified it! ... Yeah so the PIA ICAO can be changed monthly if chosen to do so but even then, it's relatively easy to identify I'm confident I can write software to identify it actually."
@@pmartbrown oh please
OMG that doxxing debate!! Breathtaking. This is the greatest pod on YT right now!!
JCal must have been shown the light with Sacks, Chapelle n Rock. Finally smoothed out those rough edges. Congrats on evolving buddy. Great show today
Friedberg is the GOAT.
Chamath is a brilliant guy with lots of great things to say and I never grow tired of his insights and perspectives. But to be fair he needs to let Friedberg speak and be respectful of his thoughts, opinions and expertise as well. He did seem triggered and it's worth reflecting on why. Still love this podcast! Just want to see everyone get along. All you guys rock and are doing a great job. Mad respect and appreciation for the All-in crew!
The biggest problem with the censoring wasn't this petty stuff. It was the overreaction to COVID encouraged by bots on behalf of people financially benefiting from the actions the government then took. Real Americans voices were silenced. None of us were committed to post our own research and data and the facts. We were completely overruled.
There have been numerous other situations such as the war in Ukraine and others that have been treated similarly. These are crucial issues that affect the direction & survival of our nation, and differing viewpoints and information must be permitted. That's why Elon bought Twitter, not all of this other nonsense.
U guys get tighter and better w time, unlike most pods
I totally disagree with the viewers. Chamath had great points. But as always I love the arguments. Honestly this is one of the only places as listeners we can be protected from an echo chamber and we can hear multiple sides of an issue. Love what you guys do .
Great work . another great podcast . nuclear fusion is future .
it is always in the future
Chammath getting irrationally emotional towards Friedberg about this is all you need to know about the kind of person he is. Chamath has spun his snake oil salesman pitch with his SPACs, and solar (in the stock market) has already bubbled.
Solar is inefficient, it’s great for your house in the right regions of the world. But grid scale solar takes up A LOT OF SPACE. It’s INEFFICIENT. The storage problem isn’t even close to being solved. At this moment, a mix of generation methods is important. But generation methods like wind and solar will be looked at like how we look at coal. They work, good to have, but they’re crude and wasteful. This next generation of compact and clean energy is what the world will need.
Must be very cold at Chamath place 😶🌫
Another excellent episode and really appreciated the drastically different opinions from Chamath and Friedberg to better understand the fusion topic. I didn’t think J Cal’s interrupting, sentence finishing for others, answering his own questions as a moderator, or finding spots to remind listeners of his early Uber investment could be eclipsed by name dropping, That detailed play by play to ensure he captured every detail of his evening was hard to listen to and like nothing I have ever heard starting ‘so I text Draymond’. Any of the others would have said - so I went to Chapelle and CR on Saturday- what amazing entertainers etc….. Unbelievable and the only drawback of this outstanding pod.
JCal was great as moderator today. Kudos!!
It’s actually really helpful-to how I probably act in biased and blind ways-to see how Chamath’s solar investments completely blind him to the fusion thesis laid out by Friedberg.
Chamath calling people intellectually dishonest, when it turns out he was being disingenuous with his critiques! Yeah, we have one solar reactor in the sky, but taking million of fusion reactors throughout the universe with us is helpful!
I don’t like Chamath throwing shade on nuclear, it’s likely because he’s not invested in it. All renewable energies should be pursued especially the ones that can be fitted into the current grid
This is the first ever episode that I liked Jason's Moderation, it was top notch (one of the very few times, no hard feelings Jason!). Less interruptions, very good questions, keeping light mood when things got intense between Chamath & Friedberg, no stupid ivory-tower biased opinions about countries he has no clue about (China/Saudi), no biden trump BS. It was pure moderation rather than pushing for a personal agenda. Please keep it like that Jason.
Chamath really seemed to be a Luddite when talking about the energy breakthrough. Does he actually care about sustainability or solely in his investments in solar ?
Thanks for a great stream/ conversation. MUCH better than the past 2 episodes. Calm & thoughtful conversation, science, tech, investing.... what we love to hear from these 4 friends.👏👏
God I love this podcast
Can we grow up and stop insulting Friedburg with Uranus jokes. He's the only member on this podcast who has yet to rudely criticize any of you even when he disagrees with your opinion. The man clearly wouldn't hurt a fly but the fact that you guys step on him when you disagree and that he respectfully doesn't respond with the same demeanor shows who the bigger man is. Much love Friedburg, wouldn't watch this podcast without you.
Friedberg and Chamath were so informative and great on the fusion theme.
But I felt Chamath was... not imposing but... pushing his point because he has a big investment in solar energy. He is bias and, as such, we should take his position with a 40-50% degree of skepticism
@@InkaHacker Good point.
I think you meant Friedberg and Friedberg
Friedberg is the only reason this podcast has any integrity left. He was courageous enough to call hypocrisy of elon musk, unlike rest of the boot lickers. Absolute king
This was a fantastic episode. I love the breadth and depth you all are capable of speaking on.
Thank you all - for sharing information on a bunch of topics (Giving away info. for free - is a form of service). It's a delight to watch you folks arguing/fighting in a friendly way.
Sacks is so beautifully coherent. Virtuoso.
So glad the besties are back together, a lighter and more informative pod
Great moderation by JCal this week. Incredible stuff.
What is missing in your discussion is the cost of transmission. Here in FL it costs about $0.05 per kWh to transmit electricity. If I can provide my power locally with solar at $0.03 per kWh including sufficient battery storage cost, then the only remaining use for the grid is to gather excess solar power from homes and ship it to high-rise buildings, superchargers and industrial processes. Any centralized energy source, even at zero cost is not competitive where you have space for solar. See Tony Seba’s TH-cam lecture on energy trends.
I found it interesting that most of the scientists involved at the Fusion press conference spoke about the implications for nuclear weapon systems testing and verification.
Those folks were dead serious about where and why their funding for the project came from. It was like holding a huge sign that said "keep pumping mass amounts of money into military spending".
It’s the game they have to play to continue receiving funding. Unfortunate but true.
Chamath should stop with the name calling and emotional responses. Friedberg and sacks are why I come back to this show
It feels like Elon wanted to stop that one account and then cobbled together a generalized, rational seeming, policy to support what he wanted to do.
Stop we don't allow common sense here
You can only grift
Elon is showing that free speech only works for him and those he likes, which is the epitome of double standards and the exact opposite of what he spouts off endlessly about. Hypo-criticism at its finest and makes him seem like an airhead with unsubstantiated ideas that only sound good on paper but not in real life.
I love this podcast...amazing discussions. The main question I have as a business owner, is what are all these employees doing in these silicon valley firms if they can come in an cut staff by 50%? If the business can run optimally with half the employees, then there is complete mismanagement of the firm with bloated employee counts....reminds me of the Silicon Valley show where Big Head and others were up on the roof sunning all day because they had nothing to do at their jobs.
These four are so freakin awesome together 😂
Listening to the All in podcast give me such a valuable insight in the finance world. I appreciate what you guys doing.Thanks alot!
In previous weeks, some of these guys celebrated the return of twitter accounts whose sole purpose was to mock a subset of people. if elon was one of those people being mocked, he'd enforce a rule to put a stop to it. this location rule was not created with others in mind, it was created with elon in mind.
Honestly, Friedberg is a big reason why I tune in to this show. Love all the besties, but wish Friedberg would get some more uninterrupted airtime.
awesome talk - except for friedberg
I think doxing is a very dangerous thing and elon did the right thing to shut it down.
Doxxing is illegal in LA and Friedberg totally missed the point. I wonder what would he do, if his kid is being stalked because of doxxing? elon "accepted" it at PERSONAL risk, not risk to his family.
If you guys talk about stuff please make sure to get the facts right. many people look up to you and will believe what you say, without factchecking it further....
You guys are the BEST. This should be #1 show of all time.
Only 20 minutes in but Jason is killing the moderating this episode 😂
JCal makes a powerful point about the importance of comedians being free to mock the powers that be without fear of censorship!
Chamath not allowing advertisements on the podcast because they might intrude on how long he gets to talk his book of solar investments
What a twist at the end… after all the talk of how hard founders, and company employees are going to have to work “50, 60, 70 hours per week…” the crew laments about time wasting HBO Series and how each are clearly well versed and have been intensely watching. Think Sheryl Crow has a well fitting song about this:)
1/30 fusion breakthroughs done. 29 to go.
I love it when Chamath tries to take on Friedberg. For all his bloviating we have to acknowledge Chamath is wrong time and time again on nearly every issue and Friedberg is always the most on point and willing to state hard truths.
@chamath
1- Computation has always existed (maths and logic) and the invention was harnessing it, then scaling it... Genome decoding has always existed (DNA & mRNA transcription) and the invention was harnessing it, then scaling it.
2- the intellectual dishonesty is conflating energy capture (solar cells) with generation (fusion reactors)
... hmm I wonder where Chamath is invested in renewable energy.
It was beyond clear he had an agenda here. Usually he’s so level headed too.
Great episode. Love the chemistry between the besties and now I'm super excited about nuclear fusion.
One of the best Science Corners yet!
Gents,
Thank you for all your time and energy. This is my new Favorite podcast and I’ve been on the train for over 6 weeks. Thank you
If this pod ever loses Sacks, it will fizzle.
Defining episode for Friedberg. Embarrassing episode for Chamath.
calling friedberg "intellectually dishonest" wasnt necessary
"This is the most naval-gazing, head-up-your-a**, scientific bullsh*t I've ever heard." - Chamath
"Chamath, why are you angry at me?" - DF
"I'm not angry. I don't find this intellectually honest." - Chamath
...hm.
Chamath's chilled-down explanation at 37:10 brings much more intellectually honest context to his initial uncontrolled, over-emotional response. IMO it's a shame it took however long for him to calm down and be a little more upfront about why he attacked DF's report. It's almost as if Chamath could see his money disappearing right in front of his eyes the more DF spoke passionately about this new truth, and he needed to create a bottleneck immediately. Albeit temporarily.
Funny how sacks basically saying his speech is more important speech and need protection but other it’s ok 😅
So we’ve been fusing atoms for quite a while. The important thing to remember is that this, on a net basis, produced energy. We’ve come closer and closer using different technologies and we’ve, I believe, finally reached a tipping point.
Best show on TH-cam, please never stop!!
Love the show, y’all give a dynamic insight into what is happening, what’s coming, along with how it will affect markets.
As a first gen American/kid of old immigrants, I feel like hearing how you guys are enforcing your good spending / money management habits would really go a long way…
Love the show. Looking forward to getting insights on how to moderate the conspicuous side of consumption with wealth wisdom 🙏🏾💫🤙🏾
Chamath is clearly heavily invested in solar, lol.
I originally started watching this show because of Chamath. The only reason I watch it today is because of Friedberg... Chamath is smart but as his popularity grows, it seems its getting to his head the way he speak down/over people and demands they "let him finish" after interrupting and shutting them down. One of the things I originally respected about Chamath other than his wit was his humility based on what he came from. Be a man you'd look up to as a kid, don't lose patience, don't lose respect. Much love guys, keep it up but work on the respect for one another
Also he gave them an explanation unlike Twitter 1.0 which never gave one
Friedberg is the smartest and the most objective/logical of the three.
Elon tweeted: “My plane is actually not trackable without using non-public data” Does that changes anything?Friedberg?
JCal to making the list is unacceptable. Besties are best. Thank you all four of you. You are GREAT