Fix of battery drain and blinking odometer due to failing Blue&Me module on a Alfa Giulietta 2012

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  • @cadwallon1969
    @cadwallon1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the draining battery problem and my mechanics couldn't work it out. I had them remove the blue and me unit and bingo - the mystery solved. Thanks for this!

  • @MrIBW2
    @MrIBW2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible !!! 6 months I had to drive everyday to recharge the battery ! You are a genius !

  • @kirankurianphilip
    @kirankurianphilip หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this. I have been looking for this a long time.

  • @vaishnavraj4657
    @vaishnavraj4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've heard of one person in a forum removing it and cleaning the PCB module (shown at 3:50) with compressed air and fixing it back inside (fiat punto), worked with most people who've tried it. I'm facing the same issue but LCD is completely dead now. Will try the cleaning method.
    Thanks for posting the video

    • @elektricka
      @elektricka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And how did it end up?

    • @vaishnavraj4657
      @vaishnavraj4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elektricka The USB did light up(no light before the clean) after fixing it back but did not read any media for playback. The display kept going on and off briefly and went dead again for few days and comes back displaying gibberish time to time.
      All in all it did not fix but there were changes. You might have better luck hopefully. Itl take roughly 10 mins for the proces so worth the try. Currently looking for an alternative way through reading the OBD

  • @vectorphaseshifter
    @vectorphaseshifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did the procedure and worked out well! Thanks

  • @panikasman
    @panikasman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worked on fiat 500 and then I activated 8 buttons again so they work but no mileage blinking this time! Thanks!

  • @SturbokSensei
    @SturbokSensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. I installed an aftermarket 2-din radio and had no need for the Blue&Module. This is the only guide i know of that actually shows how you can program it out of the car.

    • @gregorych1866
      @gregorych1866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you still use the buttons on the steering wheel to control the Bluetooth or not?

    • @SturbokSensei
      @SturbokSensei ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregorych1866 hi, if you mean to use the steering wheel controls to now control the 2-din stereo then yes, i can do that. I purchased a Connects2 CAN-BUS adapter lead and a patch lead for Sony stereos it even allows me to customize what the buttons on the steering wheel do.

    • @lefthand-solli6646
      @lefthand-solli6646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SturbokSensei so you changed your stereo added a adaptor, it stopped the flashing mileage and battery drain and you can still use the wheel buttons? i have a flashing mileage in my 2013 boxer it uses the blue and me crap

  • @tutimoyano
    @tutimoyano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had this exact problem on my Fiat Punto Dualogic 2014. Battery drain of 0.17A with the car in rest, and when I remove the fuse of the Blue&Me, the drain current went down to 0.1A. Also, my odometer is blinking and my usb isn't working.
    Thanks for the video!

    • @devsheoran3542
      @devsheoran3542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Luciano, i am facing same problem in my Car USB isn’t working and odometer blinking. Please let me know is you have gor solution .

    • @macedoniaisgreek5628
      @macedoniaisgreek5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@devsheoran3542 took out the passenger compartment by unscrewing 6 torx screws disconnect the connector ,,,,,,, reconnect it again and the odometer will stop flashing,,,this work for me!

    • @waqarfarooq2826
      @waqarfarooq2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@macedoniaisgreek5628 you mean to say blue and me module connect en reconnect?

    • @macedoniaisgreek5628
      @macedoniaisgreek5628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@waqarfarooq2826 yes my friend! Its very easy

    • @karlitus_
      @karlitus_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@macedoniaisgreek5628 hi! Is it really easy to remove the B&M covers in front of the passenger's seat ? Im not a genius with tools and dont wanna break something. Thank you for your advices to come. Regards,

  • @gavintownsend702
    @gavintownsend702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi - great video. Will the same procedure work for an Alfa 159/Brera/Spider? I've got a flashing odometer after an aftermarket head unit was fitted and the B&m unit removed and discarded (not sure if the battery was disconnected prior to B&m removal). All done prior to my ownership of the car (Brera). Thanks.

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gavintownsend702 I’m not completely sure, but I think the proxy-alignment will solve the blinking odometer issue. Older cars do not respond on the can-bus fault code you create by disconnecting a module without disconnecting the battery. The fault is there, but doesn ‘t lead to a blinking odometer.

  • @dallas6706
    @dallas6706 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Useful,it works on my fiat 500😊

  • @rayzor9352
    @rayzor9352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Worked 100% Finally no KM blinkin 😬😁

  • @MrShark01
    @MrShark01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, how do you disconnect the blue&me module, as you only mentioned that you did it? I've got the exact same problem and don't want to spend £500 at the garage for a replacement.

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I disconnected the blue&me module by taking the plug/connector out at the back.

    • @MrShark01
      @MrShark01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tony thanks!

  • @bborud
    @bborud ปีที่แล้ว

    Which OBD link product did you use?
    Thanks for the video. Going to try this out on my car. I have a Wi-Fi OBD link of some description. Would that work?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  ปีที่แล้ว

      The obd-software determines which obd-adapter can be used. If you try for instance the free version of MultiEcuScan, you will find out if it's supported. Nowadays wifi and bluetooth connections have improved a lot, so it should be okay to use wifi. Good luck!

  • @willylee3246
    @willylee3246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope this will also work with a blue &me on a Fiat 500

  • @cera6808
    @cera6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, how do you change parameters for steering wheel buttons, audio output/input in MES proxy alignment? I can see parameters but no way to change them as described in the video.

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a payed version of the MES software? In the video I've used a picture of the demo screen, therefore the characters are in red instead of black. These characters should be black if you want to change the parameters.

  • @gabrielcikov2882
    @gabrielcikov2882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I bought my Giulietta Qv and the odo was blinking. I was wondering if the reason is the blue and me module because I was not able to connect to it with my phone or usb. Removed the battery and started working on it. Found out that my blue and me module was not connected so I fixed that and reconnected the battery. The odo was not blinking but still not able to connect my phone or do anything with the windows/menu buttons. I am still not able to use my Usb port. Do you have an idea for that? Maybe I should run proxy alignment and try to set the buttons to the 8button type if they are changed at some point to 6?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Gabriel, looks like your Blue&Me unit is broken. There's only one reason for the previous owner to disconnect the Blue&Me unit and that is a drained battery:(
      I would recommend to check the drain current when the car is switched off for a while.
      You could get a replacement Blue&Me unit or fix the flashing odometer by following the video. Good luck!

  • @alessandrolabanca9515
    @alessandrolabanca9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, if rhe blue and me was removed with battery, is there any way to recover the error?
    Regards

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have tried myself but I didnt succeed. If I remember correctly the fault code with "CAN B" in the name, which appears if you unplug a CAN-module without disconnecting the battery, made the odometer also blink. However some cars, like older Fiats, doesn't have a blinking odometer with this fault code.

    • @alessandrolabanca9515
      @alessandrolabanca9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tony i understand, but if i re connect the blue and me damaged ,is it possible remove the faul code, and then disconnecr the ECU whitout battery?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alessandrolabanca9515 Yes, I would suggest to reconnect the blue&me unit, delete the fault code, disconnect the battery, disconnect the blue&me unit. It worked on my Alfa

    • @Cybertron667
      @Cybertron667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tony So you cannot erase them with Multiecuscan ? Body computer clear errors or with the Scan DTC function ?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cybertron667 MultiEcuScan enables you to clear the current fault codes. However when the cause of the fault code is still present, the fault code will appear again. This fault code may then lead to a blinking odometer.

  • @jeanvaljean126
    @jeanvaljean126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. Work perfectly

  • @pizmakserafin9115
    @pizmakserafin9115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Tony, would you be able to advise, please? I've got a slightly different problem with blinking odo. My Blue & Me is already disconnected and I don't have it anymore. I'm afraid it was disconnected when the battery was connected as normal. Is there any way to get to complete proxy alignment and stop odo from blinking. Thank you for insightful video.

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunatelly I don't know a solution for that, it might exist tough

  • @gregorych1866
    @gregorych1866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey. I also have a blinking odo on a 2014 fiat 500 and I believe blue & me is the issue. My question is this: if you remove the module as you show, can you then buy an aftermarket device that supports Bluetooth and have the steering wheel buttons for Bluetooth to control it? Thank you

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Gregory, I think you can. There are 'steering control units' available which communicate with the steering wheel buttons and the aftermarket radio/headunit. However I don't have any experience with them yet. I'm sure you can find some information on them on the internet. Good luck!

  • @2WheelDerness
    @2WheelDerness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing, now I know why my odometer is blinking. Usb port is not working and also cant connect to bluetooth. Is there any chance to still connect to usb port to phone? i also tryed to plug a jack into radio but camt find the diagram of the pins and is different from Bravo which jack 3.5 is plug and play.

  • @puchtothemaxi8858
    @puchtothemaxi8858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Tony, Thanks for the Great video. Only one on TH-cam to fix This problem. I have one question: Will the AUX input still work after doing This procedure (Will i still be able to play music through the aux cable)?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends if the aux is connected directly to the radio or via the Blue&Me unit. In this case the big issue was the empty battery, it kept being drained as long the Blue&Me unit was connected.

  • @MrShark01
    @MrShark01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once you've removed the Blue&Me module, do you have to complete the second step or is that only for the blinking odometer? Thanks

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's right, the second part is to stop the blinking of the odometer. Taking the plug out of the Blue&Me unit will stop the draining of the battery.
      I'm not sure the fuse is only for the Blue&Me unit, if that's the case you could just remove the fuse.

  • @judginglionn7056
    @judginglionn7056 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goed day , could you perhaps give me advice on how to get my Blue Me running again? it stopped working and i cant use media ,aux, usb, but radio works and gps also is it fixable ? Thanks

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I opened the module but there weren't any flaws visible, so I just deconnected the unit to stop the battery drain.

  • @suepall1364
    @suepall1364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tony, Thanks for the video :) - I have the same problem I have pulled out the Blue and Me module and I am deciding on whether to live with the flashing odo or purchase the Multiescan software and cables however a little nervous to do this . I have asked some Alfa mechanics if they can reset but none are willing - very strange why they cant do this - looking to purchase cables and software do you by any chance know of any suppliers in Australia? - I have checked and can only see the Uk supplier. Thanks

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Sue, as a matter of fact this video started as my father's Alfa mechanic didn't want to fix it! I think the problem is the mechanic can't explain why it takes some hours just to stop the odometer flashing. When you are lucky it is a quick fix, but when the car doesn't want to cooperate it can be time consuming. For instance if the radio is replaced by a normal head unit and the old radio is not there anymore, and the replacement was done without disconnecting the battery, it's impossible to stop the odometer flashing, apart from 'emulator boxes'.
      The good news is you can by the OBD-kit step by step. First you can buy an interface module of the following type: ELM 327 v1.3+/OBDLink/OBDKey in Australia (ebay perhaps?). On the HELP-page of MultiEcuScan.net you can find more information on the interface modules. Furthermore you should have the A3 adapter cable. I made it myself from ordered parts, just follow the guide on the VEHICLE-page. Then you can download the free software version of MultiEcuScan. With a limited amount spent you can try if it works. You should be able to retreive CAN-BUS info from the car. Now you can buy the licensed software online from the website and you can start the procedure as in the video.
      I must state that you might not be able to stop the blinking if there are more faultcodes (like from the radio) or something else is not cooperating:(. However luck favours the brave so just go for it!

  • @bvb6291
    @bvb6291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this work for a fiat 500 as well?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  ปีที่แล้ว

      It should work for a fiat 500, it's a general procedure. The steering wheel buttons may differ perhaps though.

  • @amce6997
    @amce6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I switched my existing headunit to a android one on my Punto Evo 2010 ever since the odometer started blinking i did a proxy Alignment i got a timeout error on ETM but everthing was on Ok/EOL Ok and it didnt stop so i thought it may be the Blue&Me module thats interefiering with it because everything else works fine so i did everything as you did in your video disconnected the battery unplugged the module and changed the settings in MES and still odometer is flashing and now i get an „EOL Failed“ on ETM do you know what that means

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you disconnect your original Fiat radio with the battery disconnected? Because if you don't there will be another error code in the body computer which causes the odometer to blink.

    • @amce6997
      @amce6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tony i think i didnt disconnect the battery. Do i have to put it back in and switch it with the battery disconnected?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amce6997 Yes, reconnect the original radio, then disconnect the battery, disconnect the original radio, reconnect the battery.

    • @amce6997
      @amce6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tony So i did that.. i disconnected the battery, put the old radio in, connected the battery, did a proxy allignment and it stopped blinking. Then i disconnected the battery, waited for like 10 mins and put the android one back in and it started blinking again so i did a new proxy allignment but it didnt help.. Thanks for your help but i think i have to live with the blinking odometer
      These are my stats:
      Body Computer (BCM/NBC): EOL Ok
      Motorsteuerung (ECM/NCM): Ok
      Elektrische Lenkung (EPS/NGE): Ok
      Instrumententafel (IPC/NQS): EOL Ok
      Bremsanlage (ABS/BSM/NFR): Ok
      Knoten Schleudern/Seitenbeschl. (NYL): Ok
      Knoten Airbag (NAB/ORC): EOL Ok
      Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM): EOL Ok
      WARNING: This vehicle is properly configured. PROXI Alignment is not needed!

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amce6997 Did you erase the fault codes in the body computer?

  • @Cocolas-u8n
    @Cocolas-u8n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found that the USB port is diszbled after i disconnect the blue&me unit. Anyone else experience this?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's correct, usb port and 'aux in' are part of the blue and me module

  • @macedoniaisgreek5628
    @macedoniaisgreek5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can i remove the blue&me module without blinking odo?i try to disconnect the battery and unplug the module and reconect battery and plug the module but odo still blinking!i wonder if i do something wrong.

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It basically comes down to disconnecting the battery, disconnecting the blue and me unit, connecting the battery again and performing a proxy-alignment of the CAN bus. The odometer blinks when a CAN module is not working or a CAN module is removed without disconnecting the battery, but it also blinks when a CAN module is missing. By performing a proxy-alignment you alter the list of CAN modules in your car. In your case you should perform the proxy-alignment to stop the odometer from blinking.

    • @macedoniaisgreek5628
      @macedoniaisgreek5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fix-it-again-tonydear friend thanks for your answer,i have the autocom delphi diagnostic but dont have proxy alignment parameter in this software!there is no other way?

    • @macedoniaisgreek5628
      @macedoniaisgreek5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i want to unplug the module because drain my battery and i dont want any more

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@macedoniaisgreek5628 To stop the odometer from blinking you have to do a proxy-alignment as far as I know

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@macedoniaisgreek5628 If you unplug the Blue&Me unit the battery drain will stop. That solves you biggest problem I guess.

  • @Pusteja
    @Pusteja 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hai provato a cambiare il chip di memoria sotto al processore?

  • @fatihozcan3427
    @fatihozcan3427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, how to connect blue me to computer ? Where can i buy appropiate cable ? İf you help me i am glad you

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would recommend to go to www.multiecuscan.net/ , all information can be found there

  • @eLtOnNaSsA
    @eLtOnNaSsA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is possible to make the fiat bravo 1.4 turbo

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically it's the same procedure apart from the buttons perhaps, I don't have access to a Bravo unfortunately.

  • @klasfard
    @klasfard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly The same symptom as mycket 2014 peugeot boxer havet !

  • @Cybertron667
    @Cybertron667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried this but didn't work as it should :( Cannot align proxy/
    Did someone else encounter a Airbag Node (NAB/ORC) FAILED! - Request out of range error Failed Proxi alligment with Multiecuscan v4.8 ? In the Can Info section the airbag is ok EOL OK.
    ->[102A] errors: Byte 69: 7C->4C

  • @jackspot6930
    @jackspot6930 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️ form KERALA

  • @pasvajok1
    @pasvajok1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, aux is still working after this?

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends if the aux is connected directly to the radio or via the Blue&Me unit. In this case the big issue was the empty battery, it kept being drained as long the Blue&Me unit was connected.

  • @marantz777
    @marantz777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blame Micro$oft for that stupid and faulty Blue&Me device, based on ancient WindowsCE operating system. I swapped over several of them, and no one was completely fault free! These are produced by Magneti Marelli, but are essentially ARM-based WindowsCE computer, that constantely crashes and locks. Usually disconnecting the battery cable may fix them for a while. Shame on you Microsoft manufacturing a so stupid and problematic device.

  • @remicourty9689
    @remicourty9689 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this problem in my Giulietta 2010 by I don’t Indes your video Iam French ...

    • @fix-it-again-tony
      @fix-it-again-tony  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AgriDrone Unfortunately this doesn't fix the blue and me unit. It only stops the battery from draining and the odometer from blinking annoyingly.