Please share this video with someone who buys too many plugins 💵. I even found more order confirmations so I’m past $10500 🤦🏾! How much do you think you’ve spent on plugins? Let me know!
I really feel like we miss the point and get wrapped up in buying plugins. I have went through so many amp sims before realizing the best amp is a real amp whether into your daw with a captor or mic'd up. Nothing better than the real thing. IMO. I've spent thousands. Not 10k but definitely 1k or more.
@@EATSHITDIERecordsI disagree on the real amp part but agree on the regarding going through so many and missing the point. I personally believe we’re at a point that it doesn’t matter how much % its differs from the real thing. It’s definitely good enough to be creative.
Very good video Mendel! And so true... I was an absolute hoarder, for years! I NEEDED to update and upgrade, because "once in a lifetimes opportunities" here! Nowadays I don't even look a the freebies anymore. It's all clutter. So each year I spend less and less (drastically). I am concerned tho with how plugin manufacturers will deal with this. There's a shift happening. Became very apparent with Waves last year and now UA are selling stuff low priced and even giving away free plugins! There's something happening for sure...
I asked myself the same question a few years ago. I think I now have everything I need and want for writing and mixing demos. I think my most expensive plugin is Superior Drummer 3, did I need it? Probably not. GGD Invasion was ok and would have done the job, but the sound was very raw and Kontakt plus the mixing was so resource hungry that it wasn't fun to write songs anymore. SD3 was just plug and play with great sounding premixed presets and way less dependen on my hardware at the time. Btw your IR pack was the last one I bought, since then CAB 3 is my default on my rhythm tone in plugins and my quad cortex.
Didn't see the Toontrack stuff I've seen you using quite a lot... anyway, this is a real concern we all struggle really. I've spent way more than that during the last years, even if most of the plugins are barely used, I have them available just in case I need it. It's dependant on the work you do, in my case a lot of production and post-production in the music, videogame, TV, film, adverts industries, so I think I have to invest in all those digital tools... because I don't know exactly when I would need to use an specific one for an specific job it might come... or I'm wrong? In any case your video opens a pertinent debate and I can agree more with your statements! Great advice man!!
The SSL Buss+ I would not get rid of. It cost alot and was worth every single penny. My four Ibanez Pia's, yes I said four [ stallion white, Envy green, Sundew Gold, Black ] Ive played a ESP KHII for over 30 years. When I played the Pia, I could not get over it. I have zero regret on owning all of them, I would do it all over again. Superior Drummer 3 I can't do without. And a little to many to list here plugins that I always use. But the above mentioned, I do it over again easily.
At the beginning I've search every free plugins and VST that could suits my needs. Only then I've seek and listed everything that was missing. Since I'm afraid to be lost between too much options I choose only 1 or 2 effect or VST to mix with. After that I seek wich price is the lowest for each and buy it on the right time. For example I bought 2 amp sims for guitar and only 1 for bass. At the moment I've spent only 75€ total and I don't plan to spend more than 150€ again or even less. That way I'm sure I won't waste too much and that I will use it.
I did even today: Celemony Melodyne 5 upgrade from Editor to Studio for 99 Euro! By the way: better don't make such a spreadsheet about gear bought throughout the years!
True man, the most plugins I bought when I had no idea about mixing , I thought I need everything to make good mixes, well my mixes are still not on a pro level but the more I learned about mixes the more I realized I didn't need even the half of it .. thankfully I didn't spend so much money but I could have save at least the half I ve spend
I felt into the same pit with guitars - at one hand each of them gave me some sort of exclusive inspiration but at the other few of them are collecting dust for a longer time now. When it comes to financial reasoning it looks like I spent like 1,5k€ for an inspiration for a video which hit like 10k views. Was it worth it..... . . . . . . . . . . . yes, why ? :D:D
Stopped using coke & amphetamine so i need to put the extra money somewhere that gives me a good buzz-> guitar amp sims that I'll use for about 2 weeks and move on 🤷♀
Yeah. If you spend any large amounts of money. When you decide to buy the product. You should wait at least two weeks after that. Then if you still want the product after two weeks. You know it will be worth your money to buy the product then.
I did the same with Sonibile inteligent EQ.Free version.And I know that this plugin kills energy in my metal and make it soft.Too inteligent for metal for sure.
Shame on me also.... especially for not at least taking a trial first!! I get so confident that it will be adding value to my workflow that I'm almost always buying directly (the hype you said is real.) In the end I would say I'm using mayyybe 30-40% of the plugins that I have for real haha. Anyway, good topic that's for sure!
I always try to ask myself "Do I want this or do I need this?" when thinking of buying new gear of any kind, and it has helped me a lot through the years lol
Call out to my fellow Warez boiz so that I don't have to make a video in the future titled "I've spent over $10000 on Plugins, here's why you shouldn't". 😁
I'll be honest, I ended up with ten tons more than I needed, and it was a case of wtf does this even do? Or option paralysis. Best thing I did was get rid, and just go with the essentials.
@@Mendelian my two-buss chain: SSL bus comp > Pultec > Saturation. No specific models, just some sort of those type’s in that order, so I can do the top-down thing. I can get similar results ITB, it’s not the same depth and low end doesn’t get mushy
Solid 5/5 content, Mendel. But the ending? 6/5!
Please share this video with someone who buys too many plugins 💵. I even found more order confirmations so I’m past $10500 🤦🏾! How much do you think you’ve spent on plugins? Let me know!
I really feel like we miss the point and get wrapped up in buying plugins. I have went through so many amp sims before realizing the best amp is a real amp whether into your daw with a captor or mic'd up. Nothing better than the real thing. IMO. I've spent thousands. Not 10k but definitely 1k or more.
@@EATSHITDIERecordsI disagree on the real amp part but agree on the regarding going through so many and missing the point. I personally believe we’re at a point that it doesn’t matter how much % its differs from the real thing. It’s definitely good enough to be creative.
Got the Tonex One for a back-up board to my Fractal and your Metal Pack - if that doesn't work out I will be stumped!
Very good video Mendel! And so true... I was an absolute hoarder, for years! I NEEDED to update and upgrade, because "once in a lifetimes opportunities" here! Nowadays I don't even look a the freebies anymore. It's all clutter. So each year I spend less and less (drastically). I am concerned tho with how plugin manufacturers will deal with this. There's a shift happening. Became very apparent with Waves last year and now UA are selling stuff low priced and even giving away free plugins! There's something happening for sure...
I am not a professional or anything, but for me I noticed the more gear and plugins I had, the LESS creative I was with my writing.
You got a good deal on that Soothe, though 🤣. On more serious note, more vids like this are needed for sure, great job as always!
I asked myself the same question a few years ago. I think I now have everything I need and want for writing and mixing demos. I think my most expensive plugin is Superior Drummer 3, did I need it? Probably not. GGD Invasion was ok and would have done the job, but the sound was very raw and Kontakt plus the mixing was so resource hungry that it wasn't fun to write songs anymore. SD3 was just plug and play with great sounding premixed presets and way less dependen on my hardware at the time. Btw your IR pack was the last one I bought, since then CAB 3 is my default on my rhythm tone in plugins and my quad cortex.
Didn't see the Toontrack stuff I've seen you using quite a lot... anyway, this is a real concern we all struggle really. I've spent way more than that during the last years, even if most of the plugins are barely used, I have them available just in case I need it. It's dependant on the work you do, in my case a lot of production and post-production in the music, videogame, TV, film, adverts industries, so I think I have to invest in all those digital tools... because I don't know exactly when I would need to use an specific one for an specific job it might come... or I'm wrong? In any case your video opens a pertinent debate and I can agree more with your statements! Great advice man!!
the irony of "oh plugins are cheaper than hardware or axe fx" and then you buy 3 times worth of axe fx 3 :D
I fell into this trap to, i've been 'clean' since 2020 :)
Ha! Great choice of words 👌🏾🔥
The SSL Buss+ I would not get rid of. It cost alot and was worth every single penny. My four Ibanez Pia's, yes I said four [ stallion white, Envy green, Sundew Gold, Black ] Ive played a ESP KHII for over 30 years. When I played the Pia, I could not get over it. I have zero regret on owning all of them, I would do it all over again. Superior Drummer 3 I can't do without. And a little to many to list here plugins that I always use. But the above mentioned, I do it over again easily.
At the beginning I've search every free plugins and VST that could suits my needs. Only then I've seek and listed everything that was missing. Since I'm afraid to be lost between too much options I choose only 1 or 2 effect or VST to mix with. After that I seek wich price is the lowest for each and buy it on the right time. For example I bought 2 amp sims for guitar and only 1 for bass. At the moment I've spent only 75€ total and I don't plan to spend more than 150€ again or even less. That way I'm sure I won't waste too much and that I will use it.
8:48 ahahahahahahah niiiice
i look at it as an investment, like i can keep them forever. I'm a music major and I plan on making plugin videos sometime soon cuz I have so many
This is why I avoid subscriptions like the plaque. They are waaay too expensive on the long run.
mendel do you know anyone who worked on the new suffocation album? could you find out how they tracked and treated guitars ?
That ending 🤣🤣🤣
I did even today: Celemony Melodyne 5 upgrade from Editor to Studio for 99 Euro! By the way: better don't make such a spreadsheet about gear bought throughout the years!
True man, the most plugins I bought when I had no idea about mixing , I thought I need everything to make good mixes, well my mixes are still not on a pro level but the more I learned about mixes the more I realized I didn't need even the half of it .. thankfully I didn't spend so much money but I could have save at least the half I ve spend
Did you post on gitaarnet like 20 years ago? With your DFH tracks? Your name sounds familiar
:) looks like it's you
Cool
I felt into the same pit with guitars - at one hand each of them gave me some sort of exclusive inspiration but at the other few of them are collecting dust for a longer time now. When it comes to financial reasoning it looks like I spent like 1,5k€ for an inspiration for a video which hit like 10k views. Was it worth it.....
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yes, why ? :D:D
Great video. A reality check for us all. I don't think I'm brave enough to do this exercise 😂
Stopped using coke & amphetamine so i need to put the extra money somewhere that gives me a good buzz-> guitar amp sims that I'll use for about 2 weeks and move on 🤷♀
Me too... Ugh. I decided to get a Kemper in place of all the plugins.
Well, now I just buy profiles, instead 😂
thank god for Reaper, Reapack and js-plugins and scripts.
beautiful documentation btw
wise words, but this is how the economy works... less is more and focus on music not the tools around. Btw cool content dude! Keep on rocking! 🤘🤘🤘
Amen!
subscription model plugins are a scam. we shouldn't encourage that.
Yeah. If you spend any large amounts of money. When you decide to buy the product. You should wait at least two weeks after that. Then if you still want the product after two weeks. You know it will be worth your money to buy the product then.
I did the same with Sonibile inteligent EQ.Free version.And I know that this plugin kills energy in my metal and make it soft.Too inteligent for metal for sure.
Shame on me also.... especially for not at least taking a trial first!!
I get so confident that it will be adding value to my workflow that I'm almost always buying directly (the hype you said is real.)
In the end I would say I'm using mayyybe 30-40% of the plugins that I have for real haha.
Anyway, good topic that's for sure!
I always try to ask myself "Do I want this or do I need this?" when thinking of buying new gear of any kind, and it has helped me a lot through the years lol
for those that have bought and tried all the available amp sims .. what are your top 3 amp sims ?
Free one NeuralAmpModeler is closest to the real amp. Then ToneX and then either Tonehub or NeuralDSP.
@@Mendelian do you have any captures/profiles for neural amp modeler that you can recommend. I also use that.
Do i need tonex max or is Tonex Se good enough if all i am doing is using other people's captures/profiles?
Call out to my fellow Warez boiz so that I don't have to make a video in the future titled "I've spent over $10000 on Plugins, here's why you shouldn't". 😁
All good! the comment about being a boomer if on facebook. And those glasses... totally boomer design. You must love Facebook :-)
shame XD in all seriousness, great video and thank you for sharing.
"...or Facebook, if you're a boomer" WTH man lol FB is as valid as ever! lol
thats crazy since torrent exist
Black fri....😂
Yeah I think people are waking up to this kind of thing big time, its so easy to mentally get caught out
It is fun to be a plugin hoarder. lol 😂
cracked plugins for the win
I'll be honest, I ended up with ten tons more than I needed, and it was a case of wtf does this even do?
Or option paralysis.
Best thing I did was get rid, and just go with the essentials.
Me with no cell phone, having no idea what a plugin is. 🤷
you could have torrented all of that
I’ve spent about double on hardware and I’m happy with most of it. Interfaces have been a drag though
Curious: what hardware could you live without?
@@Mendelian my two-buss chain: SSL bus comp > Pultec > Saturation. No specific models, just some sort of those type’s in that order, so I can do the top-down thing. I can get similar results ITB, it’s not the same depth and low end doesn’t get mushy
don`t worry, I won`t let you down, as long as torrent works lol
10 k on plugins your know you download cracked versions no people love to was there money
What?
oof
Looks like you needed........ Better help......