Flite Test - Tek Sumo and Bonsai - Review
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- Flite Test - Tek Sumo and Bonsai - Review
In this episode of Flite Test Josh and Josh review the new Hobbyking flying wings! The Bonzi and the Tek Sumo are two very awesome planes, So watch the review and tell us what YOU think.
Low rates is a setting that reduces the distance the control surfaces move. This makes the aircraft feel more docile when flying. We made a video called "Expos and Dual Rates" that explains this in more depth.
@natuurkundefilmpjes We have the link on our website.
JS, nice to see you out there flying so well. No heaters, trees, or roofs getting in the way (assuming there wasn't any editing). By the way, I think I'm done with the Funbat for a while. I don't know. The wing design looks too easy to build. I think it'll be next.
@MOGG3RT It's the Flite Test theme. Michael composed it.
Josh Scott...you crack me up, "Yeah, just pick one".
Remember this: You can pick your nose, and you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your friends nose:D
i thought Josh Scott was a beginner !
been watching your videos the whole day , Great Job ! good luck !
I would like to thank Mr. Josh Scott for autographing my Popwing winglets at the US Hornet Quadcopter races. I came in second to a pro racer at the DJI GAMES and it was only my second quad flight EVAR.
Thanks for that, I'll check it out. Have just "stepped up" to a 9x radio, so am sure I will be able to achieve this now. Hoping to order a Tekumo ASAP. Really appreciate the quick response to my question. You are really helping me learn. I can't imagine how hard the Flitetest team must work to create your vids... though it looks like a lot of fun too. cheers.
For everyone looking for or wondering about "Goop", just search for *amazing goop eclectic* without the stars and that should take you to the company head page where you can select the product you are looking for. Commonly available in many places under slightly different names... Shoe Goo, Automotive Goop etc. However, I too would like to see how it's applied to a Bonsai as I have one coming!
@fnlrun Or there's a new director in town.
-JR
Pause at 4:16 and look at josh scotts face
Got my wing flying today in the uk and it is amazing! I had a 2200 with a 7-4 prop and a 3s and it is soo good, I'd say it was semi aerobatic and a really good rate of roll highly recommend it! :)
@herishidesigns Right!
"Kv" is the motor velocity constant, measured in RPM per volt (not to be confused with "kV," the abbreviation for "kilovolt").
K = constant
v = velocity
k = kilo
V = volt
From the Wikipedia article "Brushless DC electric motor."
Metric is good!
Actually nearly every vid you guys have made has been fun, entertaining and educational. Great stuff, i look forward to more.
The closer you get to directly in front of the radar unit the better. You get what is called cosine error. Your first reaction would be to angle the radar gun but that isn't going to do it you need minimize the cosine between the radar beam and the craft. You very well could have been going in the 70s with this relatively small craft and about 25 feet over the radar. It is always lower and never higher. Also, if your plane is on a curved flight this further complicates the issue.
If they talk about the glue called Goop its a bit expensive. 8 to 11$ a relatively small tube. But this glue is awesome. You can stab a air matress with a large knife and use only this glue and it will hold pressure even with people on it.
The best episode so far !!! good work guys
Just brought my Teksumo out of hibernation. It is an easy plane to fly. Better also to modify it & put the battery on top to protect it from damage on landings.
Nice catch Bixler, and Scott your flying skills are Most impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger.
Guys can you elaborate on goop in another episode? Nice to see you yanks using the metric system for a change! Love your show.
you guys are the best! :D
Love every episode!
Keep it up :)
You have plenty of Amps left (13-14A from what I think I heard) with the 6x4 which tells you the motor can do more. Try a 7x6 with the 4S. If that's too much, take a 7x6 and cut it down to 6.5x6 or 6x6.
This channel makes me want to spend money. Especially knowing how cheap HK is..Damn you RC
love my teksumo.
just keep gluing her back together..
Just an update.. This TekSumo is great. Love it.
Have crashed it, broken it in 2, and just glued it back together again..
extreme value for money.
Nice work guys :) You've got me addicted !
Cont: As I dont have a radar gun. But I assure you its wicked fast. I wanna guess that its atleast 60 mph fast. Oh I forgot to mention the battery set up. Its a 3s 2600mah 55C. If I fly it at or near wide open I can get roughly 15 min flight time before the low voltage cut off kicks in. If I fly at or about 1/2 stick which is plenty fast I get an honest 25-30 min. What a blast. I enjoy your video reviews and have learned some usefull stuff and plan to attempt some of them. Like the glider tow.
I can't help myself and I have to do a comparison. Im not going to name products specifically but as I dont want to cause a conflict. I have a wing its a 1200mm wing. I bought it from a company out of LA. I took their motor and speed control off and replaced it. I bought the new motor 1250KV and 30A ESC (matched set) from a place out of Illinios. Im running a 9x6 APC with it. Much authority with this set up. I have unlimited vertical with this flying from 5000ft elevation. Not sure on speed.
Ah I remember seeing your first videos, having never flown RC. Now I have wings, planes, quad, two FPV and fatsharks. People in parks stop to watch me fly my wings now.
I bought my nephew a Bixler, I even have a APM2.5 haha. ALL YOUR FAULT
Me and my girlfriend have built the nutball and FT flyer, but we havnt got the nutball flying yet :(
Would love to see this wing set up for FPV as well.......... Just bought one about a month ago, and have yet to set it all up.....
I LOVE flying wings! I've got 5 - from 34" to 100" wingspan. I may hafta get me one of those Turnigy wings. Thanks for the review.
Can I ask about where the elerons should be centered?
I read 13degrees up, but other places say flush on top of wing..
Let me know what is working for you... please
Hi guys, quick question. You say you put "goop" on the leading edge of the wing. Is that the tyre goop for sealing tyres against punctures or is there another kind? Thanks.
That's great, I need to get one for simple FPV!
A 3000kv inrunner and a 5x5 apc thin electric prop if it's speed you want.
I did a time lapse build of the Tek Sumo :)
0netwo3 it had to be mounted that way to get the cg right.
Excellent tip with the goop, is the sumo as good as the swift to carry a GoPro for FPV?
@Smuli85
A glue similar to welders, sometimes called shoe goo.
You can use hot glue instead of goop guys! :) it's literally called 'Amazing Goop' but as I said, you can use hot glue, tape, even some epoxy maybe!? I'd 'strongly' ;) recommend using epoxy to glue everything together! Much better result, I built my second today! Great planes! Buy two!
was there any wind on this day ? Looked like they track really straight.. Nice platform for a camera maybe..
Anyone else always worried about bottom mounted batteries on a wing. AHHH how does it not fall out without straps! It's only velcro lol
Hekki, tank you for the tips. What is the name os the product you mension at 4m41s? Tank you far all
Heyy guys great and helpful video as usually.
What is the stuff they used on the leading edge??????
I was looking at options for motors for my Teksumo, and I stumbled upon the bigger motors, but I simply don't get it: why use a heavy, low kv motor, if the thrust of the motors seems very low, compared to the 2205 or 2206 motors for quads, which have crazy thrust numbers, even with small props?
And it was too hard getting the link in here? Just kidding :)
Nice tip about the goop, just ordered it!
Cheers
The bonsai is amazing i love mine i have trained a few people to fly using it
Thank you for another great video!
can you expound on on your tip for using "GOOP," please? I went to wal-mart and found marine, automotive, household, all purpose, wood, assorted craft set and (obviously not it) hand cleaner. I also was wondering if you think it would be a good to just do the entire bottom as well or do you think it would mess with landing by adding too much friction?
Hey flight test,can u make a video for the HK Mini Breeze Glider ARF model?
Like the Bonsai :D
so which speed-controller do you use with the hexTronik 24g in the Bonsai? 2 or 3s ? Think the Bonsai will be my next modell :P
Yeah! Go metric units!
does GOOP work for dollar tree foam..... because i built a flying wing and want to put it on the wing......nice episode...liked it ...
Josh, Josh, and friends....how do you find the CG on a wing plane????
+Paul Randall “Randy” Hicks LOL....I got my answer in this video. Sorry, I should have watched the whole thing to find CG. GREAT VIDEO AND INFO! Love you guys!
what was the total cost of the build and do you have links to all the parts?
What's the weight of the motor to balance out the Tek Sumo?
I love these shows, BUT what I needed here was a review of the Hobbyking PRODUCT, in particular the Bonsai. Otherwise uninformed watchers need to be aware that neither of these wings is being flown with the power-combo that Hobbyking intended. In fact the Bonsai will not accept a 6x4 prop without cutting away wing-foam. What I REALLY NEEDED TO KNOW was how the wing performed with the product spec'd power-plant and prop. Is it flyable indoors? as they claim. All that I was able to learn was that with an oversize power-combo the plane flew 'squirly' and that we didn't see Josh S 'land' it: for some reason, LOL. Most of what we saw was Josh B doing speed flybys with the Tek Sumo. Very disappointing. STILL I ABSOLUTELY LOVE FLITE TEST. The beginner series is, to quote our Swedish friend, both 'awesome' AND 'yummy'.
I fly my bonsai with a 1100kv, 10amp speed control and a 2s 500mah, it works very well, it has a 5x3 prop :)
Harrison Switzer-Corbett Mine too, I love it.
What are you running on it? I find it really under powered :( Richard Haynes
Harrison Switzer-Corbett Good question: Turnigy 1811-2900kv, 500mah 2S Zippy, 5x3 prop, 10amp esc. The specs asked for a 3200kv motor.
Richard Haynes I just checked, using a 2200kv 250 park motor, now using a 3s 500mah pack, unlimited vertical its impressive!
link for the setup pleas ??
nice episode !
Spektrum RX? I thought you would be using the 6ch Orange from HK. Do the Orng. not work as well?
Hey Josh and Josh.
I have got a question for you guys.
I have just received the bonsai. I am not able to figure out how to set up my radio right. I've got the DX6i. Tried everything. How did you set up yours? Thanks!
why batteries on the bottom?
would eather one of these planes be good for a beginer like me?
does hk still sell this wing ? great video guys
What mah battery did you use in the bonsai? It says 600mah on hk website but many reviews say it needs more nose weight? What did you use?
When installing a prop on the tek sumo, or pop wing, do you put the curved side of the propeller facing the front or rear?
HK should make a bigger wing than 900mm I'd buy one if they made a 1.6m or so
Another great video, Thanks.
Any one know if this GOOP or something like it is available in Germany
Why don't you guys use the Turnigy 9X or 9XR?
er9x ftw !
Do you guys have a tek sumo wing I can buy I really want one but they discontinued it
Hey do you guys have a website? I love your reviews I just hate having to use youtube to find your latest.
What is goop?
What transmitter would I need to fly a wing.
Hello flitetest
Which set up do you use Tek suma fast flying with the other prop?
Sorry for my question.. What is "Goop"?
whats the set up for just the build im thinking of building this as my first plane to be the Bonsai i realy like how it is but the website is saying to use a 3200kv motor on this and im not sure how to set up the esc and all that jass id love a build video/more info or something for us noobs :)
whats the difference between EPO & EPP? is one stronger or denser than the other?
10:59 bixler bad ass
Help us find GOOP ?!
Because there's a lot of different GOOPS out there.
why did you not lay the servos down instead of up?
Servos could get damaged when you do a "belly" landing.
wait wait .. what r u scraping with the credit card :P jokingg :) nice Vid .. how dose the bondsi hold up agains wind ?
@herishidesigns Check out their website, it's posted on there, I find it at most hardware stores :-)
What happens when u put that stuff on reg foam planes? Any1 know?
Correct me but I don't think it's a good idea to put the battery on the bottom of the plane.. thats where you're landing on!
does anybody know if shoe good will work just fine for coating the wing for giving it "rubbery like" give?
How are the airfoilds on these wings?
what size is the prop on the Bonsai ?
sorry if this is an ignorant question but what do you mean when you ask if "low rates" are on? thanks
what goop do you guys use and you guys should have a wing making contest hobby king has done a great jod now it your turn to own it and make your own
so how do you balance a wing?
cant find the motor you used on hobby king??? what size prop do yo recommend??
can i use hot glue instead of goop?
Question: I have the recommended HK2818 1350kv motor in my Tek Sumo and its good for around 150 watts with a GWS 8040 prop. Which motor are you running?
Can the towerpro motor handle a 8x6 prop on 3s and a 6x4 prop on 4s?
ustedes venden buenos productos me gustaria octener esa ala voladora como hago para comprarla ustedes la fabrican
Where do you buy goop
Would the bonsai be alright for a light for setup? 1600 kv motor with a 1300 mah lipo? But of a noob sorry :/ thanks :)
Hello ! Can you tell me, please where i can buy the radio controller and the motor for this wing, becouse in the box is only the wing and nothing else :( Thanks !
Put all the gear to the top.... bottom mounting your gear leaves it open to damages from landing...
John Reap Totally agree with you john that's just what i did like you said gear on the bottom leaves it open to damage's from landings .
Any link to show your setup on top?
Nasir Jamil basically swap the horns to the top, side, then the servos and pushrods keep in the same location but have the arms to the top.., now find room for the esc,, RX and battery... like here www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1629292 are some pictures .. It never looks as good as when the gear is below, but most times heavy landings are bottom first, and this saves your gear..
Thx you :)
do you have a link to the Goop?
i think i wiil buy this but it says "tx/rx with delta mixing" what ise delta mixing?
what battery do you use on the Bonsia?