This just made me laugh so hard! I have been putting off questing on my account for so long, the excuse is grinding to the skills for Song of the Elves to be able to knock it all out at once. That said.... you want another crack at all the biggest quests, Jim? Asking for a friend.
I think the only real solution is to log on to Gary and start fresh with cooks assistant and go from there. I'm sure you can cut the time down to two years with all the practice you've had.
That Ctrl Z works on files is a crime against humanity. I deleted half a book I was working on and didn't even know I did after months. The book got stalled for years.
Nowadays my backup server does make a lot of snapshots though. Maybe there is software for it as well. It basically makes it so that something stays on your drive no matter what for an stated amount of time. For me it's months
i ended up finding someone who heroically programmed an executable to disable the control z function from working with windows after this, and changed the shortcut for the app that caused this mayhem… such a deadly combo of keystrokes.
true, although nobody is backing up everything right in the middle of doing stuff. i wonder if there is another service that might have saved this situation. a delete or accident guard or something. tbh windows should create the safeguard for situations like this. i just realized those files that randomly disappeared from my desktop years ago might have gone the same way i just never realized what i had done..
i had my best friend over when sote dropped and even though she doesn't care about runescape at all she watched the whole thing with me and we had such a good time together. she still doesn't play, but she's gone on to watch all of by release and the gary videos. i'll never forget us laughing our ass off together over that video, i'm so glad you were able to make it work!
Maaaaaan I felt this. I work as a real estate videographer/photographer, and I have a shit load of weird ass key binds. The amount of times I’ve gotten home after a long day of shooting and accidentally smacked my keyboard and sent my files to the fucking shadow realm. The panic is inexplainable lmao
Dude that SUUUUUCKS. I want to say corridor digital had a similar windows related bug they found to this a few years ago (It might literally be the exact same bug) that they posted in one of their vlogs where a nearly identical situation happened and yep, just completely nuked the shit out of some files. Such an unfortunate situation but you did the literal only thing you could do, and the quality of the video did not suffer (I'd wager no one was the wiser)
“It’s not big deal” OMG WHAT that’s so crazy. There is no way I’d be that chill. My jaw literally dropped. I’m so sorry that happened to you and also like so proud you were able to pull it off I’m so impressed 😂
That is so freaking crazy! And you did so good at the video haha. Sorry you had to go through that ordeal but I feel like those are the things we learn a ton from to and just makes it more special. Also #thankyousofa
Really makes you think how many of these other cool unique series accounts could be faked where it's not actually done by the account itself, but by a different account and also have the stats overlayed. 🤔
I work in IT and I've encountered one person do something similar. A client writing a novel used a common acronym in his writing, "ATS." which I don't recall what it stood for in the context of his novel. He liked to capitalize it. Well one day he missed the shift key and hit CTRL for the A, which highlighted the text. He hit the shift key for the T, and hit CTRL for the S. This highlighted everything in his document, replaced it with a capital T, and then saved it. I don't know how he managed to pull it off outside of just being an old man who is learning how to use computers. He wasn't sure himself so without being there to watch him make this huge mistake I have no way of knowing. The best we could do for him is recover a version from over a month ago. But that was still a month of writing he had lost from a couple missed inputs.
Even as an absolute beginner who's never used a keyboard, I couldn't imagine taking my finger off shift and pressing it again for every letter. Were there periods between the letters or something?
@@michaelwoods8299 I would have to assume so. Since I wasn't looking over his shoulder when it happened I only have his word and the aftermath to go off of personally.
If anyone else ever runs in to a situation like this, eject the drive ASAP or just rip the power cord out of your computer so that nothing else gets written to the drive. Data recovery services should be able to recover it if you're quick. What happens is the OS won't delete the files right away, instead it will just mark their space on the disk as "free" so that anything else can overwrite them in the future. Once it gets overwritten by something else is when it becomes unrecoverable
I guess the only thing he could have done is to kill the pc immediately after ctrl-z and then give the hard drive to recovery service, or boot into linux and recover files from there. Kudos to Sofa
I hate assuming shit but I’m so glad By Release is done. Great series, but it’s obvious the expectations around it (whether it was external or internal) affected you in ways. Glad to see you’re enjoying brighter shores too
i remember doing something similar on my GW2 account. had to create a new character , same name and re record so much stuff. I was beyond mad at myself lol
Damn that would have ruined me honestly. Bet it was a helluva gamer break once you found out there was no recovering the footage. Hats off that you made it happen regardless though! Cant wait to see the varla movie eventually! Hope you're well
Just in case this ever happens again, don''t do anything! As soon as you've deleted the folder/files, don't write any new files, create any folders or anything! Go straight to download some file recovery software, and do a scan asap. The soon the better, as the files are technically still there in the system but are just being ignored. The more the system writes to the disk, the higher the likelihood you'll overwrite the deleted files.
J1mmy I had a friend send me a Charborg DayZ video, and I was surprised to see one of my favorite OSRS cotent creators being cannabalized in it. Lol hope you were able to get revenge for your apple.
I’m grinding out a song of the elves video right now.. and it really is a lot of pressure, and an insane amount of work, but I’m super proud of how it’s coming out. Hopefully I’ll finish soon!🧝♂️
I met you once in Camelot bank while you were playing as By Release. You were very nice and made sure to say hello and to thank me for being a fan. Thank YOU, Jim. For everything you do.
i can't tell you how many times i've been AFK or had entity hider on only to get back and see someone saying hi to me and feeling guilty about not being there to respond - very glad i was able to reply to ya :D
@J1mmyPlus I said "I know you're busy and I don't want to bother you" You said "You're not bothering me at all my friend!" It was World 333 Camelot bank.
Love the honesty surrounding the episode and the personal circumstances! Are you going to be releasing Brighter Shores content? Been playing the game quite a bit and enjoying the story a lot, like a lot of people I feel a bit annoyed by the xp scaling post 20. A standard exponential xp rate would have been far better IMO. What are your thoughts?
Probably worth trying to record into multiple folders? That's got to be a thing right. I was waiting for you to talk about what you changed to make sure it doesn't happen again, but I assume you just swapped the keybind.
100% Microsoft's fault, absolutely insane that there's an Undo in the file explorer and desktop. Nobody knows what it's supposed to do, how it's supposed to work and nobody has ever used it intentionally.
@@johnstrad The problem is that Undo is impossible to implement reliably, as filesystem operations aren't undo-able, and a badly implemented Undo can do even more damage than the mistake you're trying to undo. There's a near infinite number of ways things can go wrong: - If you move something from a USB/network drive and Undo, but the USB/network drive is gone, what should Undo do? - if you move files to another folder, and those files override something that was already there, the overridden files are unrecoverable. - If you rename A.TXT to B.TXT, but another program makes a new A.TXT, what should undoing the Rename do? Should it override the newly created A.TXT? - If you actually delete something (not move it to recycle bin), what should Undo do? - If you move files in another folder and Undo, another program may be trying to read the moved files as you undo, locking them and making it impossible to move them back. What does Undo do with those files? What if you hit them in the middle of the Undo and some files are already moved? etc etc etc
@@pharaday5944 Alright genius, explain to me how Undo is supposed to work here: 1. You move A.txt to B.txt. Another program creates A.txt. What does undo do? If it renames B.txt back to A.txt you'll trample over the new file. 2. You move A.txt to B.txt. In the meantime another program deletes B.txt. What does undoing the move do? 3. You move A.txt to another folder, which already had an A.txt inside. You've overridden the other A.txt, what does undo do? Unless you have a time machine, none of these operations are undo-able, and I can list 10 other similar cases. Undo is supposed undo mistakes. In the context of the filesystem it can only ever create further hazards and data loss.
Reminds me of how in macOS, if you merge two folders that both have a file with the same name, the OS will just fucking delete one of them. But at least that's recoverable. Reasons why Microsoft Windows is the dominant desktop OS: 1. Enterprise marketshare dominance building off of IBM's market dominance and IBM compatibles 2. Nothing. *Nothing.* Windows is trash and a giant pile of 30 year old spaghetti code to an extent that it makes OSRS look like boutique programming. Unfortunately macOS has no software and Linux is too up its own ass on design philosophy so neither can take its place.
Hey man, feel free to finish that light puzzle off whenever 👍
lol
This just made me laugh so hard!
I have been putting off questing on my account for so long, the excuse is grinding to the skills for Song of the Elves to be able to knock it all out at once.
That said.... you want another crack at all the biggest quests, Jim? Asking for a friend.
i’m good brotha thank you for your service tho we’ll never forget u
JUSTICE FOR SOFA
Jagex: Your character has been permanently banned for account sharing
Also Jagex: loved the video Jimbo!
I think the only real solution is to log on to Gary and start fresh with cooks assistant and go from there. I'm sure you can cut the time down to two years with all the practice you've had.
That Ctrl Z works on files is a crime against humanity. I deleted half a book I was working on and didn't even know I did after months. The book got stalled for years.
Nowadays my backup server does make a lot of snapshots though. Maybe there is software for it as well. It basically makes it so that something stays on your drive no matter what for an stated amount of time. For me it's months
i ended up finding someone who heroically programmed an executable to disable the control z function from working with windows after this, and changed the shortcut for the app that caused this mayhem… such a deadly combo of keystrokes.
I believe Ctrl y is redo so it can undo Ctrl z
@@gallavanting2041 say you didn't watch the video without saying you didn't watch the video
@@HLDVRctrl y might have worked
This story would be a perfect sponsor transition to a data backup based sponsor
Unless he *had* the data backup and it worked
@@maagiapall backup, not recovery
true, although nobody is backing up everything right in the middle of doing stuff. i wonder if there is another service that might have saved this situation. a delete or accident guard or something. tbh windows should create the safeguard for situations like this. i just realized those files that randomly disappeared from my desktop years ago might have gone the same way i just never realized what i had done..
@@uniquehandle-u9pTrue! But at least he'd have the raw footage even if he'd have to re-edit the whole thing right
“Thank you Backblaze”
i had my best friend over when sote dropped and even though she doesn't care about runescape at all she watched the whole thing with me and we had such a good time together. she still doesn't play, but she's gone on to watch all of by release and the gary videos. i'll never forget us laughing our ass off together over that video, i'm so glad you were able to make it work!
I did stronghold of security. Sharing accounts is against ToS prepare to get banded 😢
Glad you didn't ruin it. Wish we could experience the unfortunately missing parts. Hate that it was so much extra stress and work on your end.
Maaaaaan I felt this. I work as a real estate videographer/photographer, and I have a shit load of weird ass key binds. The amount of times I’ve gotten home after a long day of shooting and accidentally smacked my keyboard and sent my files to the fucking shadow realm. The panic is inexplainable lmao
Thats fucking insane man, what a recovery though i never could have guessed that you were lying to my face. What a natural talent you have
Well... thank goodness it wasn't after the light puzzle, at least.
Don't you worry my man I won't tell a soul about this
Dude that SUUUUUCKS. I want to say corridor digital had a similar windows related bug they found to this a few years ago (It might literally be the exact same bug) that they posted in one of their vlogs where a nearly identical situation happened and yep, just completely nuked the shit out of some files. Such an unfortunate situation but you did the literal only thing you could do, and the quality of the video did not suffer (I'd wager no one was the wiser)
cant miss what we never had (the first playthrough)
This wasn't a bug, just an awful feature working as intended
“It’s not big deal” OMG WHAT that’s so crazy. There is no way I’d be that chill. My jaw literally dropped. I’m so sorry that happened to you and also like so proud you were able to pull it off I’m so impressed 😂
We appreciate your efforts in quality sir.
That is so freaking crazy! And you did so good at the video haha. Sorry you had to go through that ordeal but I feel like those are the things we learn a ton from to and just makes it more special. Also #thankyousofa
Really makes you think how many of these other cool unique series accounts could be faked where it's not actually done by the account itself, but by a different account and also have the stats overlayed. 🤔
feel like with hiscores available it’s not really possible to fake too much, especially something like a closely followed youtube series/account.
you actually care about that part?
Welp, lesson learned I hope. Have one central folder for your recordings to write to, and then you can just move them after you are done recording.
I work in IT and I've encountered one person do something similar. A client writing a novel used a common acronym in his writing, "ATS." which I don't recall what it stood for in the context of his novel. He liked to capitalize it. Well one day he missed the shift key and hit CTRL for the A, which highlighted the text. He hit the shift key for the T, and hit CTRL for the S. This highlighted everything in his document, replaced it with a capital T, and then saved it.
I don't know how he managed to pull it off outside of just being an old man who is learning how to use computers. He wasn't sure himself so without being there to watch him make this huge mistake I have no way of knowing.
The best we could do for him is recover a version from over a month ago. But that was still a month of writing he had lost from a couple missed inputs.
Even as an absolute beginner who's never used a keyboard, I couldn't imagine taking my finger off shift and pressing it again for every letter. Were there periods between the letters or something?
@@michaelwoods8299 I would have to assume so. Since I wasn't looking over his shoulder when it happened I only have his word and the aftermath to go off of personally.
Damn that blows dude, Ctrl Z giveth and taketh away huh, but yeah that keybind for the screen thing is wild, probably was wise to change that later :D
If anyone else ever runs in to a situation like this, eject the drive ASAP or just rip the power cord out of your computer so that nothing else gets written to the drive. Data recovery services should be able to recover it if you're quick. What happens is the OS won't delete the files right away, instead it will just mark their space on the disk as "free" so that anything else can overwrite them in the future. Once it gets overwritten by something else is when it becomes unrecoverable
If something on that scale happened to me, I think I would legitimately not have a computer anymore. Computers were a mistake! 😅
Wow J1mmy is playing Run Brighter Scape Shores 4
I guess the only thing he could have done is to kill the pc immediately after ctrl-z and then give the hard drive to recovery service, or boot into linux and recover files from there. Kudos to Sofa
wow i cant imagine how terrifying that was for you! thank you for all the effort and work, i loved that episode
Aww man and here I hoped it could be a late late night stream secret for those who stuck around watching.
By Release lost media is now a real and canon thing
The undo redo loop is shit when you branch off your past like that lol.
That sucks bro im sorry that happened
I hate assuming shit but I’m so glad By Release is done. Great series, but it’s obvious the expectations around it (whether it was external or internal) affected you in ways. Glad to see you’re enjoying brighter shores too
i remember doing something similar on my GW2 account. had to create a new character , same name and re record so much stuff. I was beyond mad at myself lol
Last weekend I did mournings end 1 -> song of the elves.
All in 1 sitting.
I've never done the elf questline before.
It was long.
Damn that would have ruined me honestly. Bet it was a helluva gamer break once you found out there was no recovering the footage. Hats off that you made it happen regardless though! Cant wait to see the varla movie eventually! Hope you're well
Just in case this ever happens again, don''t do anything! As soon as you've deleted the folder/files, don't write any new files, create any folders or anything! Go straight to download some file recovery software, and do a scan asap. The soon the better, as the files are technically still there in the system but are just being ignored. The more the system writes to the disk, the higher the likelihood you'll overwrite the deleted files.
+1 reason to not put directories on the desktop and just use a little shortcut instead
The content creator's absolute worst nightmare. Goodness dude
I didn't even know you could undo changes on the desktop. I just tried it with an empty folder and holy crap. You can. lol
man that's true dedication
That's movie magic.
Totally forgot about brighter shores thank you!!
I would recommend making an AHK script to rebind something like F12 to Ctrl - Alt - Z so you never have to worry about this happening.
this never would have happened if andrew gower just made you attack the fucking frog.
You said that this caused you to change the way you operate your entire computer system. What do you do differently now?
I always wondered why the Sofa credit was at end of that episode.
J1mmy I had a friend send me a Charborg DayZ video, and I was surprised to see one of my favorite OSRS cotent creators being cannabalized in it. Lol hope you were able to get revenge for your apple.
Did sofas account beat sote or is it still on the light puzzle?
If I did the light puzzle on two accounts, I don't live to tell this story
I’m grinding out a song of the elves video right now.. and it really is a lot of pressure, and an insane amount of work, but I’m super proud of how it’s coming out. Hopefully I’ll finish soon!🧝♂️
honestly should record to a nas with some type of parity
I met you once in Camelot bank while you were playing as By Release. You were very nice and made sure to say hello and to thank me for being a fan.
Thank YOU, Jim. For everything you do.
i can't tell you how many times i've been AFK or had entity hider on only to get back and see someone saying hi to me and feeling guilty about not being there to respond - very glad i was able to reply to ya :D
@J1mmyPlus I said "I know you're busy and I don't want to bother you"
You said "You're not bothering me at all my friend!"
It was World 333 Camelot bank.
Random question, but what products did you end up buying to try to recover the files?
cant wait for By release to see Varlamore! lol
lol why does TH-cam label the game being played in it World of Warcraft?
Love the honesty surrounding the episode and the personal circumstances! Are you going to be releasing Brighter Shores content? Been playing the game quite a bit and enjoying the story a lot, like a lot of people I feel a bit annoyed by the xp scaling post 20. A standard exponential xp rate would have been far better IMO. What are your thoughts?
This actually blew my mind 😂
I know so little about runescape but always watch jimmy
Probably worth trying to record into multiple folders? That's got to be a thing right. I was waiting for you to talk about what you changed to make sure it doesn't happen again, but I assume you just swapped the keybind.
would have not happened if you named the folder :( cause then ctrl z would undo the rename if anything
Wait, is that runescape in the background of this video? What's going on here?
He's playing Brighter Shores in the background!
runescape 4
Let's hope Jagex doesn't ban my boy for account sharing 👀☀️
What game is Jim playing in the background?
I feel decieved, betrayed and bamboozled. I'm unsubbing.
which game is this ?
What is this game?
Why does it say you're playing WoW on this video?
to much brighter shores content
banned for account sharing
This story is sofa king cool
100% Microsoft's fault, absolutely insane that there's an Undo in the file explorer and desktop. Nobody knows what it's supposed to do, how it's supposed to work and nobody has ever used it intentionally.
Accidentally deleted files to trash bin, moved bunch of files to wrong folder and so on.. Undo, It has a function.
@@johnstrad The problem is that Undo is impossible to implement reliably, as filesystem operations aren't undo-able, and a badly implemented Undo can do even more damage than the mistake you're trying to undo. There's a near infinite number of ways things can go wrong:
- If you move something from a USB/network drive and Undo, but the USB/network drive is gone, what should Undo do?
- if you move files to another folder, and those files override something that was already there, the overridden files are unrecoverable.
- If you rename A.TXT to B.TXT, but another program makes a new A.TXT, what should undoing the Rename do? Should it override the newly created A.TXT?
- If you actually delete something (not move it to recycle bin), what should Undo do?
- If you move files in another folder and Undo, another program may be trying to read the moved files as you undo, locking them and making it impossible to move them back. What does Undo do with those files? What if you hit them in the middle of the Undo and some files are already moved?
etc etc etc
who are all these people who don't understand the concept of an undo function
@@pharaday5944 Alright genius, explain to me how Undo is supposed to work here:
1. You move A.txt to B.txt. Another program creates A.txt. What does undo do? If it renames B.txt back to A.txt you'll trample over the new file.
2. You move A.txt to B.txt. In the meantime another program deletes B.txt. What does undoing the move do?
3. You move A.txt to another folder, which already had an A.txt inside. You've overridden the other A.txt, what does undo do?
Unless you have a time machine, none of these operations are undo-able, and I can list 10 other similar cases. Undo is supposed undo mistakes. In the context of the filesystem it can only ever create further hazards and data loss.
J1mmy broke TOS, shared someone else's account, reported
❤
Also Brighter Shores is so bad man holy jeez
Oh my.
1:55 what's the problem, ctrl+c copies something.
It's ctr+z he is talking about
God brighter shores sucks.
Truth
i like how youtube thinks this is WoW
Brighter Shores is still too new, it might not even be in the system yet.
I'm updating your Wiki.
“J1mmy is an American badass who don’t back down from shit.”
%temp%
Damn B that sucks
o, jasrf
What you lied to us?! Unsubbed!!!!! JK it was great watching the videos
Reminds me of how in macOS, if you merge two folders that both have a file with the same name, the OS will just fucking delete one of them. But at least that's recoverable.
Reasons why Microsoft Windows is the dominant desktop OS:
1. Enterprise marketshare dominance building off of IBM's market dominance and IBM compatibles
2. Nothing. *Nothing.*
Windows is trash and a giant pile of 30 year old spaghetti code to an extent that it makes OSRS look like boutique programming. Unfortunately macOS has no software and Linux is too up its own ass on design philosophy so neither can take its place.
Linux just has absolutely no money in the desktop/user experience side, so nothing ever gets done
Doge
Hahahaha amazing
Fake... gonna ctrl-z my subscription
That's showbizz, baby🥲
banned for account sharing