Didn't see you but I was there - just for day 2. In all honesty, the £40ish was worth it for me just for Gary's segment at the end which was shorter than it should have been because the day over-ran. Grant and everyone else was the exact huckster stuff I expected. Especially as Grant didn't realise that he was in Birmingham, not London, and Gary took the piss out of him for that BIG style! :D
You have single handedly stopped me from even considering ever attending these large scale events. Great video and perfect message that the world needs.
The Recovering Hunbot Losers always make excuses, winners go to these events and have life changing experiences. What are you going to do with your life now that you’ve decided not to invest in yourself?
@@barbelljoe could you be anymore cliche? Surprised you didn't say 'snowflake'. Bet your profile picture is of you holding a Fish with an England Flag cover over it.
@@taylorniall5756 you're right, I could have included snowflake. I am a software developer and last week we had the straightforward task of building a web screen which happened to have a couple of standard radio buttons for the user to select: 'Male' or 'female'. Except our graduate guy couldn't wrap his head around the fact that there are 2 genders and wanted managers and stakeholders to redesign the form to include a whole range of other 'genders' including an option for not identifying with any gender, gender-fluid, androgynous, bi-gender, demi gender and god knows what else. This resulted in a whole day of arguing with the client. Thank f00k there wasn't a field for user pronouns. Another guy wants all the corridors widening in case 2 wheelchair users ever have to pass each other, even though there aren't any wheelchair users in the company. This generation is the first to grow up with political correctness their whole lives and it's produced a load of self righteous invalids.
I went to this EXACT event when it came through Australia. Gary Vee was legit and provided a lot of value to the room. There was one other good speaker from Australia that actually provided some tangible promo strategies. HOWEVER, this video is spot on. 99% of the day was being pitched to... HARD. The whole day was long, tiring, and felt like a late-night infomercial with cult-like tendencies.
@@prac-e244 absolutely. I make daily antiMLM videos and did one video this week inspired by MIke. So much of what he says about contrepreneurs fits MLMs. I am so glad that this message is getting into the world. Too many running around looking for a quick jump to wherever they are try to get to.
Mike - This is good shit. Your unbiased and skeptical approach gives you real credibility. I am a fan of Gary Vee however - there is definitely a bit of hypocrisy going on. He can attend these events knowing that he's the best man in the house, because lets face it; he is. But he's not only getting pocket money but potential in sales and more content to put out on his social media further extending his brand. These simply aren't free transactions of providing value for nothing and that's always been his rhetoric. I think you navigate that point quite eloquently here so kudos. I'm enjoying your content, keep it up man!
Gary Vee's response at 8:12 "Do you know what the greatest sadness for me every day is? When some people see my content and they think my high energy means I’m one of those people. Has it been cool for you guys to figure out the difference between me and them? I’m for free not telling them what they want to hear, they’re for money telling them what they want to hear. They won’t think they’re good guys forever. " I don't know Gary's stuff other than the generic motivational aspect, but that response is a great example of clever wordplay. He didn't _miss_ the point, Mike, he misconstrued it to put himself on the persuasive high ground. "greatest sadness every day" paints him as just caught up in what's going around him, and aligns his negative emotion of sadness with Mike's negative emotion of frustration. "think I'm one of those people" distances himself in concrete terms. This paired with the first emotional prod is like a one-two punch for persuasion. First emotion, then the concrete. Time to move to the abstract. "Has it been _cool_ for you guys to figure out the difference between me and them?" This is all set in past tense, as though Mike already came to the same conclusion as Gary will then supply. It's not "did you figure out the difference?" or "what do you think is the difference" - anything that gives Mike a chance to actually give his own views. Instead, Mike's now primed with "difference between Gary and them" instead of his own "why did you attend this scummy summit" question. After a cut implying there's a longer than average pause - since Gary now switched Mike's original question - that's when Gary seems to push with his own explanation. TL;DR: Clever. Scummy, but clever.
I really like your take, I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out Where did you learn to notice these things? I feel there's got to be a book on this stuff besides Cialdini
@@sashaa6175 Simply put? NLP. Loads of books and courses out there. Great trainers that will teach you a lot more for a lot less than these scumbags will. This move is simply using a presupposition, you imply the conclusion or result you want the person to get It can be used therapeutically to imply healing and getting better to a client "think of the things you have already done to get better" for example, implying that the client HAS done such things. Sadly it can also be used to sell bullshit. Anyhow, the knowledge is good, it is up to you if you will use it to help or to harm :) Some good names worth looking into are John Grinder, Tad James, Robert Dilts, Steve and Conniraie Andreas. I actually did an online traning with Conniraie Andreas recently, she was amazing :)
Yeah, it seems like a classic psychopathic, narcissistic response. My perception is that Gary V. pretends to have empathy and plants how you should feel in your mind without allowing you to be lead there through critical thought. I'm not saying he does this maliciously or that my perception is even true. I just don't get a feeling that Gary has real empathy for people and all his responses to tough questions are practiced and don't allow you time to think or counter.
I’ve interned for Gary, he’s the real deal. Many say he offers generic advice, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. But I would argue it’s better to be generic and free than generic and paid for. Also many of these gurus don’t run real business, Gary does.
You've missed the point. Nobody is questioning whether Gary is legit or not, the question is whether he did the right thing by agreeing to speak at one of these scam events, subsequently promoting it to many people that otherwise wouldn't have been scammed into going to the event. Honestly, I think it could be a case of the scammers that organized the event misleading Gary just like they misled their customers.
YUP, his videos are terrible. Just clips of a bigger piece of content... he manages to talk for 10 minutes, pat himself on the back a few times and say NOTHING.
@Michael Davis Cardone is a snake... a rich one, but a snake none the less. His real estate funds are places for stupid rich people to hand over their money so they can look cool. His training is bupkas. He admitted on Jordan Belfort's channel that he sells the same course to individuals for 100 dollars that he sells to corporations for 80K.
@Michael Davis cuz he got smart with it and said "im not gonna sell courses cuz people will bunch me up with the rest of the course selling gurus, im going to sell books instead" lolololol... lowkey though, im going to the conference in LA on the 15th
LOVE these videos lol. You know how I grew my TH-cam channel to 190,000 subs and a 6 figure income? Wait for it....a TON of hard work and consistency. Voila. There's your formula.
Your final point is spot on. You could spend two days taking free online courses from Google and Facebook, picking up skills (and free certifications from Google) that you could apply to any online business, then use the money you would have wasted in tickets an £1997 be courses and spend it instead on ads, getting real world experience, traffic, and probably a few conversions, resulting in an immediate return on the same investment. Thanks for saying this. You're doing great work, and now I'm inspired to make a video for my fledgling channel. Look forward to more from you!
paid courses have changed my life but i vet them very carefully and they tend to be underground figures. they have like 40 people at them 100max not for the masses in a big arena. i guy making multi 7 figures on taboola is not sharing that for free i can assure you
Mad respect for Mike not just giving Gary a pass because of his proximity to him and their project together. Personally, I think Gary does a lot of good and means well, but at the end of the day, you just can’t defend someone’s involvement in an event like Success Recourses. I’m glad Mike didn’t. I have personally never attended one of these events or bought one of these courses but I know a lot of young entrepreneurs that have and I have witnessed the damage it has done both financially and mentally. I know guys and gals that have literally given up on their businesses because they spent the last few dollars they had on courses and when those courses didn’t help, they figured it was a lost cause and quit. Gary is bringing validity to this event whether he realizes it or not. Those that might be skeptical of the pitches may also let their guard down if they think Gary is there so it must be legit... Gary is too smart to not realize this is happening. Keep up the great work Mike! My only concern has been that Gary might be using your platform to distance himself as far as possible from these contrepreneurs, when he himself does indulge in some of the same practices (not nearly at the same level). Great to see you are not just giving him a pass.
Garyvee‘s value comes from his free content. It sure has helped me a lot. Paying for the same stuff he says which can be had for free is just stupid. Period.
I attended one like this here in Melbourne without knowing I was paying to be pitched all day just to see a 30min talk from Gary V. It seriously felt like I was going through an endurance test.. I mean I was there to see Mr V himself not to be pitched... I am wiser now.. I have never been back again... dodgy! Thanks for doing this man people needs to be informed!
Got to love with all the social media guru business going on, channels like this are exposing the truth of what really goes on. Be wary folks, and even then its still not enough.
Listening to something live has a lot more power than online, saying from experience, I once went to an event and a really huge person was talking, him saying cliche stuff like "Be confident, think global", it really hit me hard and I really took it to heart, it also make you see they are just like you and it makes you belive its possible
Media Don - no doubt. Live events are designed to feed off the energy in the room. But I wouldn’t sit through 2 days of listening to people selling programs just to see someone I wanted to for 30 minutes.
Lol dudes I was 17 when I attended this event here in mumbai (I'm 18 now) the event didnt include Gary and grant at the time, but sandy jadeja was present there. You my friend, are absolutely right. Pitch after pitch after pitch. That was it. And after every pitch, they asked whoever wanted to buy their course to go to the back of the room and sign up, they didn't even say the damn price. To my complete and total shock, THE WHOLE ROOM full of 800-1000 people got up and rushed to the back. I was absolutely shocked. After the idiots gave their name for signing up and paid for the course (the course price wasn't even revealed yet) , the speakers revealed the course price, and it was, yes u guessed it, $2k, or equivalent to Rs 1.4L. Ya, I swore that day that I won't attend any goddamn event like this, ever again.
When you went to see Gary Vee, i was worried you'd not put him under the scrutiny of the others you mentioned. I am glad you've circled back to him to underline him. He out of them all CONcerns me the most.
gary did it the smart way, not selling courses to maintain credibility, yet still pushing his books everytime he has one, btw im a fan and going to this sell-a-thon this oct 15th in LA
It starts with you. Job Hunting/Recruitment advice I’ve worked for him, he’s the real deal. Though his advice is generic, I’d rather have some be generic and free than generic and expensive.
You're doing god's work Mike and team. I really hope this video reaches as many people as possible, it'll save a lot of people a lot of time and money. To me these "gurus" really are pond life, how can you make a career on such obvious lies and deceit. Snake oil salesman is about the nicest way I can describe them, though I'd like to say a lot worse.
He's right your doing Gods work. You guys are great, please keep creating more videos exposing theses crooks. Who knows, you may get your own tv show someday.
Mike certainly is doing gods work as are the televangelists in the US - just goes to show that being a contrepreneur and serving the Lord are not mutually exclusive :) th-cam.com/video/9LtF34MrsfI/w-d-xo.html
i see your point brother, though i actually make selling online since 2015, and accumulated so much knowledge on the industry and have legit money making strategies, so im caught in the battle of should i make a course out of this knowledge or not. But i see your point and its unfortunate that some people are selling courses while they never had a real business until they launched a course selling business, to me thats the fkd up part, the rookies are throwing money away that can be used to launch their business
I know you know you’re doing good. But I’m not sure you understand the level of good you are doing mate. I was one of the fools that fell for this kind of stuff at 1 point. And some people actually spend hard earned money when they don’t even have much in the hope that this will steer them in a direction to earn cash. It’s wrong. Keep doing what your doing my friend.
Don't underestimate curiosity and FOMO. People will know they probably won't get anything out of it but their curiosity will get the better of them and they'll go anyway. The more expensive it is, the more curious they become, the more FOMO kicks in
LOL, ah Grant Cardone. I remember taking an Uber ride to the airport and this guy told me about going to a seminars from Grant and Tony Robbins. I told him Grant isn't a real estate investor as you think conventionally, he's a marketer. The guys mind was blown, and when he told me that Tony told him to start a business and have someone do all the work, but give them a 60 40 split. I said that was the dumbest shit I've heard. People just believe anything without fact checking and verifying anything. Iv've traveled the world and flown first class while spending tons of time in executive lounges talking to rich and successful people. One thing I've learned is they will tell you how to get from A to B but never to C. The money and time these people waste looking for them to get magic beans could've been better served and rewarded by doing their own research. I do the exact opposite of what these guys say and now I'm retired at 36 with my own business on auto pilot. People, nobody is going to make you rich but yourself, all of the information is out here. Stop looking for a savior because he ain't coming.
>now I'm retired at 36 with my own business on auto pilot. You sound like the same assholes who are selling these shit courses. >People, nobody is going to make you rich but yourself, all of the information is out here. How does this useless cryptic statement is of value to anything here?
There's no con here. That's why you have to sharpen your criticisms in this business. The OP has no "ask". YOU might've thought to yourself; "what did he learn from the elite that helped him create his business?". But he didn't lead you on that he was going to tell you. No "ask". No sell. Yes, he "called to authority" at the end of his piece. He did that to justify his sentiments, as we all do to one degree or another. The point (to the best of my understanding) is that you have to do the work yourself, you can't pay your way out of it (esp. between steps A & B). Paying for 2 days to have someone tell you how to work is 48 hours of effort you are not going to get back. Time is money, the only limited resource of real value. The information you need is free on the internet, esp. if you are trying to ask the right questions. It's never been easier to get what you need for nothing.
If BORIS JOHNSON and his fellow crooked tory thugs can get away lies after lies without any recourse, I won't hold my breath on that. We're increasingly moving towards more liberalisation and Laissez-faire system
This type of content is so important. So many people open up their Social media channels claiming to educated people, but in reality only want to sell their own stuff.
Gary is still a businessman. He does mention occasionally he gets paid a lot to attend those events so the assumption is he is most likely using it as an opportunity and a platform to spread his legacy.
8:52 proper lolled at this, you need to do a reel of the OTT sales pitch moments from your vids, including the opening to your amazon best seller one.... the cheeky head turn>grin and the subscribe now spoof. I do like Gary Vee as a character but this is one of those situations where if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem! He would probably make more money, increase the love of his fans and sell more books etc if he just did his own paid-for show/event. Where fans of his could listen, be "inspired", ask questions etc Taking the easy option and whoring himself out to these events knowing that he is helping people getting scammed isn't right.
Yeah but if YOU were trying to buy the New York Jets in the next 20-25 years, would you turn down a $200K speaking gig for 60 minutes of your time plus expenses?
Taking control of your life is the KEY to happiness and success. We all start somewhere, whether that be at the bottom or with a little help. Ultimately your potential is determined by your habits, which will *DEFINE* Who you are and what mark you leave on earth.
Ever since I bought a grant cardone Udemy course on how to be good at sales... and it literally taught NOTHING... I just dismiss Grant entirely. I’m serious. An hour and a half of nothing but Grant basically saying “sales is great! You can do it if...!”
Guys, I also believe that the internet is the best resource when it comes to learning anything that doesn't require specialized knowledge. The real people that have money arent really on social media a lot of the time and the ones that are on social media will sell you ideas and the whole notion of seeing them online with fancy cars and private jets sells the idea that whatever advise they give you will also work for you. How many people have attended these seminars and have the actual results to show for it. The true irony in life is that everyone has the eyes wide open, BUT NO ONE IS REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING.
I attended one in Asia last year. These sessions are basically teasers, you need to then register for individual workshops, coaching etc. If you go with that mindset, you can learn something. If you're gonna start a biz, better to draft a business plan and present to venture capitalists etc to get feedback.
And thanks for making this video with (answer first) format. Those people that were here only to hear The Final Answer we're either going to get it in the first minute or skip to last 2 minutes of the video anyways
Mike, I went to the exact same event in London you refer to, (two days of my life I'm never getting back!!) I vowed NEVER EVER to got to another "Success at bleeding from my eyes Resources" events again!!! Before that I was a HUGE Gary V fan, but I couldn't, (still cant) rationalise how he can associate himself with such Event Sales Scammers. He has his own speaker company Vaynerspeakers, which he launched to show the industry "how it should be done", why isnt he speaking through them?. I could forgive him for associating with "Success bullsht Resources" once and learning the hard way, but seeing this circus come around again a year later makes me very sad that his intent isnt quite what I thought it was. You make a good point Mike about Daniel Priestley, he was probably very worth listening to, especially as he wasn't pitching a course or a book.... but to be honest, by the time he came on I was so punch drunk from being pummeled by the previous 'speakers' Id lost the will to live and the energy to pay attention. Thank you for making this film and portraying exactly the level of frustration and disappointment that I came away with from that London event. It still smarts now that I will never get those 2 days back that I could have spent working on and in my business. Time , the one perishable asset that Gary himself values almost as much as attention. Does he really think my spending 2 days listening to all the previous BS was worth it to perceive his added value? Thats the question id like to ask him.
Thanks for sharing your view on these events. I understand where you are coming from. Due to the face of Gary Vee and Grant Cardone, everyone signs up for the event in the hopes of meeting them. So if they do not turn up, basically it will help people not get pitched to by all these other "entrepreneurs". Keep going! Share your message!
It's about time someone made a video like this about Success Resources. You've shown their true colors. I've attended some of their events so I know what it's like to have NLP, hypnosis and all the trigger sales words thrown at you from all angles. It's far cheaper and easier to simply put down $20 for a book and learn the same concepts. Better yet, anyone can find this stuff on the internet for free. It blows my mind how expensive these seminars are. There are many people out there who attend several of these events every year. Let's hope they see this video and they wake up.
Notification gang, where you at? Interesting about Gary, I can't figure out what he's getting out of this. Is it fair to call him a hypocrite? And yes, I like what you guys are doing. Animations will haunt my dreams no doubt, too
@@tesha199 Oh yeah I get that - what I meant is, what does he get from being seen on the same stage as Cardone and the other Tier 2 speakers Mike mentioned? Is it just cause he's hustling and taking the opportunity, or because he believes in the sales model these guys are using?
Fkin love your vids mate 👍👍 I’ll admit it, I was so close to being suckered into the super easy “passive income” BS all over TH-cam these days!! Until I found your contrepreneurs video which gave me a great big wake up slap in the face right in the nick of time, thanks man your a legend ☝️👍
I have been debating it for exactly the reasons Gary stated. It see how he handles the stage and learn from that. Gary is very genuine for me and has shown me it's ok to put out your best stuff because most don't bother implementing and it gets lost fast in a sea of the digital black hole. I have learnt a huge amount from Gary. What's holding me back, the fact this is Success Resources and what comes with it. I'd still love the opportunity to observe Gary on stage. Still undecided. Question I'd love to ask, how can I turn stage time into a genuine experience and still get on stage? I spoke at Masters of Success and Super Power Live, initially lured in that I was getting to speak freely at these events, then landed up what I was 'allowed' to speak about last minute which basically forced me on stage to give a testimonial I never agreed to give. I did my best to make it about connecting and my 'ask/sell' was for people to connect with me. My story was about the connections I had made. The first time, I was so nervous but I did my best to keep the focus on me but I had no choice to fit in with their 'formula'. Second time, they made sure I wouldn't prepare and moved me to the first instead of third day and told me when I got there. More or less repeated the same thing as the previous one and left the event. Walked away from everything after that. So! How to make it a successful experience and get on stage, that's my question?
Woman: How would I go about getting an endorsement from Gary Vee? Gary Vee: Yeah I just can't do that. Mike Winnet: Hi Gary......... what's your favourite colour?
I paid $800 to Charles Givens and $600 to Wade Cook. They were both "entrepreneurs" of the type presented here. There is great irony in those expenditures. Because I spent that much money on them, I listened intently to all of the tapes. I wanted to be a success. I followed much of the advice. No matter what happened, I save more money every month because of both of them than I spent on their programs. I keep seeing the adverts for guys selling variations of this crap. Because of Givens and Cook, I am inclined to always say NO!. I turn to the person asking and tell them. Given and Cook both wrote books that had all of the information that was in their tapes. For $60 I could have had the same information. (Maybe it was $30, $15/book). The information in the books was a little more boring than the tapes. But the flip side of this is not easy. Getting up on stage and chanting "YOU DON'T NEED THIS INFORMATION" has sold how many books!
Gary Vee posts these conferences for free. I remember my company was going to send me to one of these and I just knew 1 months later Gary was going to post the conference for free on his channels. IMO he’s a good guy.
@Mike Winnet Organizers most likely either have investors, or have enough capital from the previous conference to fund future conferences. They can probably invite who ever they wish. Gary gets paid to preach his message then goes home without selling you a course. If you watch the interview GC did with Gary on GC show you'll see and FEEL the difference. It's an awkward interview but you'll see a ton of contrast. One preaches not to focus on the money while the other tries to control the interview by pushing wishful identification. One resells you the conference the other one gives it to you for free on TH-cam. Oh and when he uploads the video he doesn't promote the conference. You'll just see his speech. Sure it's advertisment for his brand a.k.a social media content but who doesn't do that now a days?
I went to one for a very low price in LA. Gene Simmons and Gary Vee weren’t selling anything and had great content in my opinion. Most everything else was a waste of time...glad I showed up late! 😂 I do think Gary Vee continually offers great value to his audience.
So spot on! I can't believe I used to be carried away with these things myself. After attending the 10x growth con earlier this year, I almost immediately stopped following people like Grant. I still think Gary is the real deal
I really like your video Mike. If you have a contrepreneur course at 1997 to sell to learn people how to sell contrepreneurs course at 1997...I'm in 😂😂😂 Oh forget about the course I found another Guru discounted at 1997, normaly 10k instead of 5k...a lot more value 😆 Seriously, you do an amazing job exposing those lies and scammy tactics.
Point is don’t have role models in business. Lead by experience and don’t fall under the impression because they known means they know it all. It’s marketing at its finest.
GREAT video, loved it. Interestingly I went to a SR event back in 2016 to see Tony Robbins, it WAS actually worth the wait and all the pitches. I KNEW I would be pitched at. As an NLP practitioner and student of Psychology myself, I actually watched the speakers to see if I could pick up anything useful/interesting from the pitches and watching the audience reactions and I certainly did. There were some people who did it well and relatively ethically and then there were others who were appallingly shameless and ripping people off... Either way I learned a lot, so for me it was worth it. OH and I THINK it was "free" although it was in London, so I did have to pay for travel and accommodation, but I used National Express and Hostels, so really probably less than £100 for the whole 2 days and honestly the 60-90 minutes with Tony Robbins was actually well worth that! :D
It's been like this forever, especially these live events, I'm not really sure why people actually think that they can learn something useful or some secrets at these events. This best thing about these events is that you can network and meet some nice people, and make connections. Other than that it's just a BS and a huge waste of time. But then again, a lot of people think it's worth to pay for these events just to get a pic with Gary or Grant, and then use it later in ad creatives and what not.
I just saw the free videos on Gran Cardone, and helped me to be motivated and keep working hard. Now I have my business and I have contrats all over Latin America. YOU NEED TO WORK AFTER WATCHING VIDEOS ON TH-cam OR GOING TO EVENTS
@@MikeWinnet I think that Grant Cardone is just a motivational speaker, but I didn't learn about creating businesses or investments thanks to him, were my businesses skills and knowledge that helped me most.... I took some courses with some real estate developers from Australia and Mexico, and went back to university to specialize myself in construction, and had to do a lot of things . I just saw a lot of Grant Cardone's free videos on youtube to stay motivated. That worked for me... May be he is a scam as you say. It would be super sad if it so.
It's all business and unless they are renting out a super bowl stadium there is no way it will make financial sense unless some other people have their fingers in the pie.
Crikey I bought a ticket but purely for Gary Vee, I'm not going if its just for half an hour I can see that on you tube... as for Grant cardone, not a fan anymore, he went on Jordan belforts podcast to try and mug him off and got smoked! He ended up challenging Jordan to a cage fight because his ego was so dented. Thanks for the video brother glad i came across this.
Dude, you’re awesome at this. I need to start using the same strategy. You’ve picked the biggest names on social media and are able to have success riding on their coat tails...brilliant, simply brilliant
If you have been scammed by London Real there is a Facebook group devoted to helping people get their money back. Search in Facebook "London real support for people to get refund" we have helped lots of people get full refunds.
@@MikeWinnet exactly! However he tries to rationalize his own actions, he is complicit with the scam artists because he is allowing them to use his credibility to market their event. it doesn’t matter what he says. To put it another way, Gary sounds like somebody who got invited to speak at a white Supremus rally and then claiming he should not be condemned because he didn’t say racist things. He still spoke at the event. He still gave credibility to the event. I use this over the top example to highlight why I don’t buy his excuses.
I’m waiting for someone successful to make a living trolling this entire market by setting up events, giving real info, but poking fun at everything in the industry. To do this I think the company has to be making enough money on its own before it starts a tour like this, if so it could just poke all at the industry. Say charge $197 for the info, but ensure that everyone who can prove they have a pulse gets $197 off and then give them the google link to videos for whatever training they have. I think you could make this a massive comedy skit and it’d be great pro bono work lol. (Could leave donation boxes at the exits for charity.)
I'm loving this channel! I'm going to an S.R Event tomorrow....they got me at the cheap cost($29) but not before I saw this channel! Thankfully, I'll pop my head in towards the end. Ready for this shit show!
Liked, commented and subscribed, cheers for that quick short answer. Appreciate it. much love. You are great. Definitely want more. Keep it coming. Don't stop. Yeah boi. Keep more of that content coming.........
You are the ADBUSTERS of online marketing, man! Slick production and entertaining, but showing off the seedy underbelly of the whole machine. Another video well done. (Also: it should read "there are," not "they're are")
The cheapest ticket in Australia was $39 to see both Grant and Gary speak (As well as all the other losers). If you fundamentally understand what you're getting yourself into, I don't think it's a complete waste of money.
I'm gonna be totally real with you, anyone that doesn't have highly specific tactics to overcome the very specific obstacle i'm facing is an instant no to me. "hustle" anyone that says that phrase 1000x immediately suspicious I don't think they're totally worthless for everyone. Some people may get value but for me, and what I'm looking for all these guys are a plague. And, worse they manipulate search results to where you can never find what your looking for. "doctor in dallas" search results - 10 day course to be a the millionaire dr. of instagram lol.
@@CobraAquinas There's a deep truth in "hustle". Succes doesn't come over night. I see it like this. Do you want to become succesful? Be prepared to not do a 9-5 but a 6am-12am job. Keep that up for as long as you can, until you're actually making money while you sleep. Delegate all your work. Invest into something new. repeat. Th way these speakers present the work tho, is not at all representative of the work you'll have to put in.
@@thespector8587 Yeah, i hear you man, there's no way to interpret exactly where someone's coming from on the internet or what their experience level is so I'm going to assume you're coming from a genuine well meaning place. Imagine, you wanted to cross a busy intersection in a major city on foot. And, then imagine I created a seminar where I yelled about waiting til the light is green. Constantly is that true that, that works? yes, and it's confirmed by everyone that it's obviously true so you feel successful hearing this truth. However, what if you didn't know you had to press a button for the the light to turn green? what about basic safety like having your shoes tied so you don't fall in the road. Walk don't run the basics. What about different cities have different rules for where you can walk, and when you can walk across. You see, all i'm saying is to provide value it may not be as popular because it's more in detail, and there's a real need for it there's an over saturation of " wait for the light to be green" I hope you see where I'm coming from, and I want you to know I respect you as a person, and I don't intend to demean or belittle you because we're on the internet and not face to face.
@@CobraAquinas 100% agree with you on that. Much fluff, no real value. I'm glad I figured most of the things out on my own with the power of the internet.
Grant Cardone offers no value. Period. He got owned by Jordan Belfort last week. I know you like Gary Vee but he is so basic with what he says. What value does he even offer ?? Waste of time and money.
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Did anyone spot me at the event yesterday? 👀
What did you think of the talks (pitches)?
Who was entrepreneur and who was contrepreneur?
Let me know 👇🏼
He's like a full on comedy character to me now. I can't take the guy seriously 😂
@@MikeWinnet hes so rich i bet he drinks his own piss for wine
@@MikeWinnet Utter nonsense. 10X this, 10X that. Sell your house and rent, don't buy any nice cars (even though I brought my house and a plane)
Didn't see you but I was there - just for day 2. In all honesty, the £40ish was worth it for me just for Gary's segment at the end which was shorter than it should have been because the day over-ran. Grant and everyone else was the exact huckster stuff I expected. Especially as Grant didn't realise that he was in Birmingham, not London, and Gary took the piss out of him for that BIG style! :D
Thank you Mike! You are a breath of fresh air I needed today ❤️❤️❤️
Oh snap here we go
You got me to sub 😂 to this channel
KEVVVVVIIIIINNNNNN!!!
Isn't it ironic that you're watching this? 😂
Go on Kevin you lunatic lol
Love that you're here Kevin.
haha, I like that "short answer is no" at the beginning, but I kept watching 😁
You have single handedly stopped me from even considering ever attending these large scale events. Great video and perfect message that the world needs.
The Recovering Hunbot same man.
The Recovering Hunbot Losers always make excuses, winners go to these events and have life changing experiences.
What are you going to do with your life now that you’ve decided not to invest in yourself?
The Recovering Hunbot don’t quit on yourself bro. Go to these events and meet people who also want a better life
The RideShare Hacker Really you’re giving these “losers” financial and life advice as an Uber driver?
Not all of them are scams but now you’re a little more aware of the ones that are
The addition of Russell Brand is soo random, he claims to hate capitalism and everything the others are all about.
Haha gotta have something for the millennials. Probably a safe space room outside too!
Russell is a shill. Surely you knew that?
Brand says all the right stuff, but I don’t know if he actually believes in of it, or if he even knows the implications of the things he says.
@@barbelljoe could you be anymore cliche? Surprised you didn't say 'snowflake'.
Bet your profile picture is of you holding a Fish with an England Flag cover over it.
@@taylorniall5756 you're right, I could have included snowflake. I am a software developer and last week we had the straightforward task of building a web screen which happened to have a couple of standard radio buttons for the user to select: 'Male' or 'female'. Except our graduate guy couldn't wrap his head around the fact that there are 2 genders and wanted managers and stakeholders to redesign the form to include a whole range of other 'genders' including an option for not identifying with any gender, gender-fluid, androgynous, bi-gender, demi gender and god knows what else. This resulted in a whole day of arguing with the client. Thank f00k there wasn't a field for user pronouns. Another guy wants all the corridors widening in case 2 wheelchair users ever have to pass each other, even though there aren't any wheelchair users in the company. This generation is the first to grow up with political correctness their whole lives and it's produced a load of self righteous invalids.
I'll just wait for Gary V to upload his bit to his channel.
Exactly what I wish I had done!!! And got 2 days of my life back!
@@pottypurplepodiatrist-warr7817 Don't forget the 1997 dollar instant cash back!!!
I know right!
I went to this EXACT event when it came through Australia. Gary Vee was legit and provided a lot of value to the room. There was one other good speaker from Australia that actually provided some tangible promo strategies. HOWEVER, this video is spot on. 99% of the day was being pitched to... HARD. The whole day was long, tiring, and felt like a late-night infomercial with cult-like tendencies.
I would bet there are cultish tactics used in these events--wide spread mind control through marketing and that FOMO thing.
The Australia speaker - Kerwin Rae?
@@jonopoon Yep! That's the one. He was a bit 'salesy' too, if you know what I mean. But, had some legit info too.
@@RecoveringHunbot Shaming especially
@@prac-e244 absolutely. I make daily antiMLM videos and did one video this week inspired by MIke. So much of what he says about contrepreneurs fits MLMs. I am so glad that this message is getting into the world. Too many running around looking for a quick jump to wherever they are try to get to.
Mike - This is good shit. Your unbiased and skeptical approach gives you real credibility. I am a fan of Gary Vee however - there is definitely a bit of hypocrisy going on. He can attend these events knowing that he's the best man in the house, because lets face it; he is. But he's not only getting pocket money but potential in sales and more content to put out on his social media further extending his brand. These simply aren't free transactions of providing value for nothing and that's always been his rhetoric. I think you navigate that point quite eloquently here so kudos. I'm enjoying your content, keep it up man!
Gary Vee's response at 8:12
"Do you know what the greatest sadness for me every day is?
When some people see my content and they think my high energy means I’m one of those people.
Has it been cool for you guys to figure out the difference between me and them?
I’m for free not telling them what they want to hear, they’re for money telling them what they want to hear.
They won’t think they’re good guys forever.
"
I don't know Gary's stuff other than the generic motivational aspect, but that response is a great example of clever wordplay.
He didn't _miss_ the point, Mike, he misconstrued it to put himself on the persuasive high ground.
"greatest sadness every day" paints him as just caught up in what's going around him, and aligns his negative emotion of sadness with Mike's negative emotion of frustration.
"think I'm one of those people" distances himself in concrete terms. This paired with the first emotional prod is like a one-two punch for persuasion. First emotion, then the concrete. Time to move to the abstract.
"Has it been _cool_ for you guys to figure out the difference between me and them?"
This is all set in past tense, as though Mike already came to the same conclusion as Gary will then supply. It's not "did you figure out the difference?" or "what do you think is the difference" - anything that gives Mike a chance to actually give his own views.
Instead, Mike's now primed with "difference between Gary and them" instead of his own "why did you attend this scummy summit" question.
After a cut implying there's a longer than average pause - since Gary now switched Mike's original question - that's when Gary seems to push with his own explanation.
TL;DR:
Clever. Scummy, but clever.
nice that you have playlists public on your channel, very good videos to be found there
I really like your take, I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out
Where did you learn to notice these things?
I feel there's got to be a book on this stuff besides Cialdini
@@sashaa6175 Simply put? NLP. Loads of books and courses out there. Great trainers that will teach you a lot more for a lot less than these scumbags will. This move is simply using a presupposition, you imply the conclusion or result you want the person to get
It can be used therapeutically to imply healing and getting better to a client "think of the things you have already done to get better" for example, implying that the client HAS done such things. Sadly it can also be used to sell bullshit. Anyhow, the knowledge is good, it is up to you if you will use it to help or to harm :)
Some good names worth looking into are John Grinder, Tad James, Robert Dilts, Steve and Conniraie Andreas. I actually did an online traning with Conniraie Andreas recently, she was amazing :)
Yeah, it seems like a classic psychopathic, narcissistic response. My perception is that Gary V. pretends to have empathy and plants how you should feel in your mind without allowing you to be lead there through critical thought. I'm not saying he does this maliciously or that my perception is even true. I just don't get a feeling that Gary has real empathy for people and all his responses to tough questions are practiced and don't allow you time to think or counter.
@@SamsaraRevolves His response was pure subtle manipulation, very machiavellian of him
I’ve interned for Gary, he’s the real deal. Many say he offers generic advice, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. But I would argue it’s better to be generic and free than generic and paid for. Also many of these gurus don’t run real business, Gary does.
You've missed the point. Nobody is questioning whether Gary is legit or not, the question is whether he did the right thing by agreeing to speak at one of these scam events, subsequently promoting it to many people that otherwise wouldn't have been scammed into going to the event. Honestly, I think it could be a case of the scammers that organized the event misleading Gary just like they misled their customers.
He despises contrepreneurs but gets paid by them to legitimize their business. It's bugs me so much Gary does this
InvictuZ Gary is a returning speaker, he knows what it is
@GaryVee owns a real business not like many of these guys!
Smart Innocent thank you for repeating the original comment
At this point, Gary Vee is a business related meme page. I mean if you listened to any Gary Vee speech - you've heard them all
YUP, his videos are terrible. Just clips of a bigger piece of content... he manages to talk for 10 minutes, pat himself on the back a few times and say NOTHING.
@@RamblingRecruiter Nah, I like Gary, but as a funny character and meme
@@marduchok A meme is right... or a caricature
@Michael Davis Cardone is a snake... a rich one, but a snake none the less. His real estate funds are places for stupid rich people to hand over their money so they can look cool. His training is bupkas. He admitted on Jordan Belfort's channel that he sells the same course to individuals for 100 dollars that he sells to corporations for 80K.
@Michael Davis cuz he got smart with it and said "im not gonna sell courses cuz people will bunch me up with the rest of the course selling gurus, im going to sell books instead" lolololol... lowkey though, im going to the conference in LA on the 15th
LOVE these videos lol. You know how I grew my TH-cam channel to 190,000 subs and a 6 figure income? Wait for it....a TON of hard work and consistency. Voila. There's your formula.
Jesus Christ. You scared the shit out of me for a second
Yes that Is how you do it using those 2 big things.
Makes sense ?
Your final point is spot on. You could spend two days taking free online courses from Google and Facebook, picking up skills (and free certifications from Google) that you could apply to any online business, then use the money you would have wasted in tickets an £1997 be courses and spend it instead on ads, getting real world experience, traffic, and probably a few conversions, resulting in an immediate return on the same investment.
Thanks for saying this. You're doing great work, and now I'm inspired to make a video for my fledgling channel. Look forward to more from you!
Linkedin also has good free courses
and Harvardx online
paid courses have changed my life but i vet them very carefully and they tend to be underground figures. they have like 40 people at them 100max not for the masses in a big arena. i guy making multi 7 figures on taboola is not sharing that for free i can assure you
Mad respect for Mike not just giving Gary a pass because of his proximity to him and their project together.
Personally, I think Gary does a lot of good and means well, but at the end of the day, you just can’t defend someone’s involvement in an event like Success Recourses. I’m glad Mike didn’t.
I have personally never attended one of these events or bought one of these courses but I know a lot of young entrepreneurs that have and I have witnessed the damage it has done both financially and mentally.
I know guys and gals that have literally given up on their businesses because they spent the last few dollars they had on courses and when those courses didn’t help, they figured it was a lost cause and quit.
Gary is bringing validity to this event whether he realizes it or not. Those that might be skeptical of the pitches may also let their guard down if they think Gary is there so it must be legit... Gary is too smart to not realize this is happening.
Keep up the great work Mike! My only concern has been that Gary might be using your platform to distance himself as far as possible from these contrepreneurs, when he himself does indulge in some of the same practices (not nearly at the same level). Great to see you are not just giving him a pass.
Googled Clemen Chiang. He was sued by his students and was found guilty.
article?
@@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430 nice job bro i see what i can do
Miguk Moonpark holy shit!
Whats even better is that now that is hidden on goolge in Europe due to a filed privacy complain.
Garyvee‘s value comes from his free content. It sure has helped me a lot.
Paying for the same stuff he says which can be had for free is just stupid. Period.
I attended one like this here in Melbourne without knowing I was paying to be pitched all day just to see a 30min talk from Gary V. It seriously felt like I was going through an endurance test.. I mean I was there to see Mr V himself not to be pitched... I am wiser now.. I have never been back again... dodgy! Thanks for doing this man people needs to be informed!
Got to love with all the social media guru business going on, channels like this are exposing the truth of what really goes on.
Be wary folks, and even then its still not enough.
Gary Vee has a ton of great free content. There’s no need to go to one of these events.
Linda Maley This is the most intelligent comment I’ve seen here. Thank you
Actually all the events are online. Its the reason he does them, for content
Listening to something live has a lot more power than online, saying from experience, I once went to an event and a really huge person was talking, him saying cliche stuff like "Be confident, think global", it really hit me hard and I really took it to heart, it also make you see they are just like you and it makes you belive its possible
Media Don - no doubt. Live events are designed to feed off the energy in the room. But I wouldn’t sit through 2 days of listening to people selling programs just to see someone I wanted to for 30 minutes.
AGREED! But planning to buy his book Crushing It.😁👍🏽
Lol dudes I was 17 when I attended this event here in mumbai (I'm 18 now) the event didnt include Gary and grant at the time, but sandy jadeja was present there. You my friend, are absolutely right. Pitch after pitch after pitch. That was it. And after every pitch, they asked whoever wanted to buy their course to go to the back of the room and sign up, they didn't even say the damn price. To my complete and total shock, THE WHOLE ROOM full of 800-1000 people got up and rushed to the back. I was absolutely shocked. After the idiots gave their name for signing up and paid for the course (the course price wasn't even revealed yet) , the speakers revealed the course price, and it was, yes u guessed it, $2k, or equivalent to Rs 1.4L. Ya, I swore that day that I won't attend any goddamn event like this, ever again.
When you went to see Gary Vee, i was worried you'd not put him under the scrutiny of the others you mentioned. I am glad you've circled back to him to underline him. He out of them all CONcerns me the most.
gary did it the smart way, not selling courses to maintain credibility, yet still pushing his books everytime he has one, btw im a fan and going to this sell-a-thon this oct 15th in LA
It starts with you. Job Hunting/Recruitment advice I’ve worked for him, he’s the real deal. Though his advice is generic, I’d rather have some be generic and free than generic and expensive.
@@Tiktokshopsecrets he only publishes a book... What?
Every three years.
His wine business is still worth more
You're doing god's work Mike and team. I really hope this video reaches as many people as possible, it'll save a lot of people a lot of time and money.
To me these "gurus" really are pond life, how can you make a career on such obvious lies and deceit. Snake oil salesman is about the nicest way I can describe them, though I'd like to say a lot worse.
He's right your doing Gods work.
You guys are great, please keep creating more videos exposing theses crooks. Who knows, you may get your own tv show someday.
Not all of them are bad im sure
@@typicallunchbox6934 The mass amount of them are full of it, no different than the steroid junkies claiming there natty trying to sell their courses.
Mike certainly is doing gods work as are the televangelists in the US - just goes to show that being a contrepreneur and serving the Lord are not mutually exclusive :)
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i see your point brother, though i actually make selling online since 2015, and accumulated so much knowledge on the industry and have legit money making strategies, so im caught in the battle of should i make a course out of this knowledge or not. But i see your point and its unfortunate that some people are selling courses while they never had a real business until they launched a course selling business, to me thats the fkd up part, the rookies are throwing money away that can be used to launch their business
I know you know you’re doing good. But I’m not sure you understand the level of good you are doing mate. I was one of the fools that fell for this kind of stuff at 1 point. And some people actually spend hard earned money when they don’t even have much in the hope that this will steer them in a direction to earn cash. It’s wrong.
Keep doing what your doing my friend.
Gary V literally tells the audience that they shouldn't be there. Plus all of his content is free online. Why would anyone go to one of these events?
Don't underestimate curiosity and FOMO.
People will know they probably won't get anything out of it but their curiosity will get the better of them and they'll go anyway.
The more expensive it is, the more curious they become, the more FOMO kicks in
LOL, ah Grant Cardone. I remember taking an Uber ride to the airport and this guy told me about going to a seminars from Grant and Tony Robbins. I told him Grant isn't a real estate investor as you think conventionally, he's a marketer. The guys mind was blown, and when he told me that Tony told him to start a business and have someone do all the work, but give them a 60 40 split. I said that was the dumbest shit I've heard. People just believe anything without fact checking and verifying anything. Iv've traveled the world and flown first class while spending tons of time in executive lounges talking to rich and successful people. One thing I've learned is they will tell you how to get from A to B but never to C. The money and time these people waste looking for them to get magic beans could've been better served and rewarded by doing their own research. I do the exact opposite of what these guys say and now I'm retired at 36 with my own business on auto pilot. People, nobody is going to make you rich but yourself, all of the information is out here. Stop looking for a savior because he ain't coming.
>now I'm retired at 36 with my own business on auto pilot.
You sound like the same assholes who are selling these shit courses.
>People, nobody is going to make you rich but yourself, all of the information is out here.
How does this useless cryptic statement is of value to anything here?
@@AttorneyK Yeah he sounded legit until he wrote those lines.
@@AttorneyK He wants you to go to his channel and check out his content and hopefully subscribe. same ole bullshit
@@chadkirk2977 YUP lmfao
There's no con here. That's why you have to sharpen your criticisms in this business. The OP has no "ask".
YOU might've thought to yourself; "what did he learn from the elite that helped him create his business?". But he didn't lead you on that he was going to tell you. No "ask". No sell.
Yes, he "called to authority" at the end of his piece. He did that to justify his sentiments, as we all do to one degree or another.
The point (to the best of my understanding) is that you have to do the work yourself, you can't pay your way out of it (esp. between steps A & B).
Paying for 2 days to have someone tell you how to work is 48 hours of effort you are not going to get back. Time is money, the only limited resource of real value. The information you need is free on the internet, esp. if you are trying to ask the right questions. It's never been easier to get what you need for nothing.
You’re absolutely right.
I’ll spend my two days watching/listening to Gary Vee on TH-cam. 💯
For free.
Loved the video though, truly.
Love this man 👍I think this indicates towards a regulation of the events industry. At the moment they can spurt whatever nonsense they want.
If BORIS JOHNSON and his fellow crooked tory thugs can get away lies after lies without any recourse, I won't hold my breath on that. We're increasingly moving towards more liberalisation and Laissez-faire
system
Tai Lopez just showed up in the ad before the video...
This type of content is so important. So many people open up their Social media channels claiming to educated people, but in reality only want to sell their own stuff.
Gary is still a businessman. He does mention occasionally he gets paid a lot to attend those events so the assumption is he is most likely using it as an opportunity and a platform to spread his legacy.
Fuck, I love Mike! He is the real deal in a world where authenticity will be the gold for entrepreneurs going forward..
8:52 proper lolled at this, you need to do a reel of the OTT sales pitch moments from your vids, including the opening to your amazon best seller one.... the cheeky head turn>grin and the subscribe now spoof.
I do like Gary Vee as a character but this is one of those situations where if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem!
He would probably make more money, increase the love of his fans and sell more books etc if he just did his own paid-for show/event. Where fans of his could listen, be "inspired", ask questions etc
Taking the easy option and whoring himself out to these events knowing that he is helping people getting scammed isn't right.
Yeah but if YOU were trying to buy the New York Jets in the next 20-25 years, would you turn down a $200K speaking gig for 60 minutes of your time plus expenses?
Taking control of your life is the KEY to happiness and success. We all start somewhere, whether that be at the bottom or with a little help. Ultimately your potential is determined by your habits, which will *DEFINE* Who you are and what mark you leave on earth.
I find when searching for peoples names it helps to add a key word like "court", "scam" and "warning", I'm sure Mike has his favourites.
I love what you are doing Mike. If ANYONE is "providing value in this space", it's you. Please, continue.
Ever since I bought a grant cardone Udemy course on how to be good at sales... and it literally taught NOTHING... I just dismiss Grant entirely. I’m serious. An hour and a half of nothing but Grant basically saying “sales is great! You can do it if...!”
Guys, I also believe that the internet is the best resource when it comes to learning anything that doesn't require specialized knowledge. The real people that have money arent really on social media a lot of the time and the ones that are on social media will sell you ideas and the whole notion of seeing them online with fancy cars and private jets sells the idea that whatever advise they give you will also work for you. How many people have attended these seminars and have the actual results to show for it.
The true irony in life is that everyone has the eyes wide open, BUT NO ONE IS REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING.
Lol awesome, best public service vid I’ve seen in a while!
I attended one in Asia last year. These sessions are basically teasers, you need to then register for individual workshops, coaching etc. If you go with that mindset, you can learn something. If you're gonna start a biz, better to draft a business plan and present to venture capitalists etc to get feedback.
This channel is next level! Honestly you're going to blow up with this content! Love what you're doing
Mike... this channel is probably the most important one we follow on here. Keep spreading the truth!
That Russell Brunson image on the darts board I’m deceased
And thanks for making this video with (answer first) format. Those people that were here only to hear The Final Answer we're either going to get it in the first minute or skip to last 2 minutes of the video anyways
Mike, I went to the exact same event in London you refer to, (two days of my life I'm never getting back!!)
I vowed NEVER EVER to got to another "Success at bleeding from my eyes Resources" events again!!!
Before that I was a HUGE Gary V fan, but I couldn't, (still cant) rationalise how he can associate himself with such Event Sales Scammers. He has his own speaker company Vaynerspeakers, which he launched to show the industry "how it should be done", why isnt he speaking through them?. I could forgive him for associating with "Success bullsht Resources" once and learning the hard way, but seeing this circus come around again a year later makes me very sad that his intent isnt quite what I thought it was.
You make a good point Mike about Daniel Priestley, he was probably very worth listening to, especially as he wasn't pitching a course or a book.... but to be honest, by the time he came on I was so punch drunk from being pummeled by the previous 'speakers' Id lost the will to live and the energy to pay attention.
Thank you for making this film and portraying exactly the level of frustration and disappointment that I came away with from that London event.
It still smarts now that I will never get those 2 days back that I could have spent working on and in my business. Time , the one perishable asset that Gary himself values almost as much as attention.
Does he really think my spending 2 days listening to all the previous BS was worth it to perceive his added value?
Thats the question id like to ask him.
Thanks for sharing your view on these events. I understand where you are coming from.
Due to the face of Gary Vee and Grant Cardone, everyone signs up for the event in the hopes of meeting them.
So if they do not turn up, basically it will help people not get pitched to by all these other "entrepreneurs".
Keep going! Share your message!
"SCAMUEL LEEDS" 😃
In the search box 😂 didn't even clock that until you mentioned it lol
😂😂 He’s so cringey and has a seriously punchable face.
@@tonygraham5782 LOOOOOOOOOL
It's about time someone made a video like this about Success Resources. You've shown their true colors. I've attended some of their events so I know what it's like to have NLP, hypnosis and all the trigger sales words thrown at you from all angles. It's far cheaper and easier to simply put down $20 for a book and learn the same concepts. Better yet, anyone can find this stuff on the internet for free. It blows my mind how expensive these seminars are. There are many people out there who attend several of these events every year. Let's hope they see this video and they wake up.
The rent in the building cost thousands so organizers had to compensate and increase through price
Notification gang, where you at? Interesting about Gary, I can't figure out what he's getting out of this. Is it fair to call him a hypocrite? And yes, I like what you guys are doing. Animations will haunt my dreams no doubt, too
@@tesha199 Oh yeah I get that - what I meant is, what does he get from being seen on the same stage as Cardone and the other Tier 2 speakers Mike mentioned? Is it just cause he's hustling and taking the opportunity, or because he believes in the sales model these guys are using?
Gary is on the meta-con. He is the sweet bait that the contrepreneurs can buy to up their game
@@EtherDais con?
He has a wine business and documented it. So you're saying that business is fake and cgi made?
Mike, you are a breath of fresh air to an insane world.
I was almost scammed $4000 out of an australian contrapeuner. Thank you for being a real hero with your videos
who was that ?
I just love the "FREE TRINING BOOK" ads during this video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fkin love your vids mate 👍👍
I’ll admit it, I was so close to being suckered into the super easy “passive income” BS all over TH-cam these days!! Until I found your contrepreneurs video which gave me a great big wake up slap in the face right in the nick of time, thanks man your a legend ☝️👍
I have been debating it for exactly the reasons Gary stated. It see how he handles the stage and learn from that.
Gary is very genuine for me and has shown me it's ok to put out your best stuff because most don't bother implementing and it gets lost fast in a sea of the digital black hole. I have learnt a huge amount from Gary.
What's holding me back, the fact this is Success Resources and what comes with it. I'd still love the opportunity to observe Gary on stage. Still undecided.
Question I'd love to ask, how can I turn stage time into a genuine experience and still get on stage? I spoke at Masters of Success and Super Power Live, initially lured in that I was getting to speak freely at these events, then landed up what I was 'allowed' to speak about last minute which basically forced me on stage to give a testimonial I never agreed to give. I did my best to make it about connecting and my 'ask/sell' was for people to connect with me. My story was about the connections I had made. The first time, I was so nervous but I did my best to keep the focus on me but I had no choice to fit in with their 'formula'. Second time, they made sure I wouldn't prepare and moved me to the first instead of third day and told me when I got there. More or less repeated the same thing as the previous one and left the event. Walked away from everything after that.
So! How to make it a successful experience and get on stage, that's my question?
9:33 - There are*
Thanks, love your videos Mike!
Give Gary V his due, He replied to me when I said he was up his own arse with his patronising talks. I'm very proud of this....
the fact that those who attends these kind of event doesn't know how this event works is the sole reason why they are even there at the first place.
I. Friggin. LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, man! That whole bit at the beginning about instant gratification is pure genius.
Woman: How would I go about getting an endorsement from Gary Vee?
Gary Vee: Yeah I just can't do that.
Mike Winnet: Hi Gary......... what's your favourite colour?
I paid $800 to Charles Givens and $600 to Wade Cook. They were both "entrepreneurs" of the type presented here. There is great irony in those expenditures. Because I spent that much money on them, I listened intently to all of the tapes. I wanted to be a success. I followed much of the advice. No matter what happened, I save more money every month because of both of them than I spent on their programs.
I keep seeing the adverts for guys selling variations of this crap. Because of Givens and Cook, I am inclined to always say NO!. I turn to the person asking and tell them. Given and Cook both wrote books that had all of the information that was in their tapes. For $60 I could have had the same information. (Maybe it was $30, $15/book).
The information in the books was a little more boring than the tapes.
But the flip side of this is not easy. Getting up on stage and chanting "YOU DON'T NEED THIS INFORMATION" has sold how many books!
You’re a real life hero
Gary Vee posts these conferences for free. I remember my company was going to send me to one of these and I just knew 1 months later Gary was going to post the conference for free on his channels. IMO he’s a good guy.
@Mike Winnet Organizers most likely either have investors, or have enough capital from the previous conference to fund future conferences. They can probably invite who ever they wish. Gary gets paid to preach his message then goes home without selling you a course.
If you watch the interview GC did with Gary on GC show you'll see and FEEL the difference. It's an awkward interview but you'll see a ton of contrast. One preaches not to focus on the money while the other tries to control the interview by pushing wishful identification.
One resells you the conference the other one gives it to you for free on TH-cam.
Oh and when he uploads the video he doesn't promote the conference. You'll just see his speech. Sure it's advertisment for his brand a.k.a social media content but who doesn't do that now a days?
You're doing an honorable service.
I went to one for a very low price in LA. Gene Simmons and Gary Vee weren’t selling anything and had great content in my opinion. Most everything else was a waste of time...glad I showed up late! 😂 I do think Gary Vee continually offers great value to his audience.
I love it when that woman stole your question... ha ha!
I think I've seen one of her ads selling an Amazon FBA book
That butt grab at the end of the on stage hug killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So spot on! I can't believe I used to be carried away with these things myself. After attending the 10x growth con earlier this year, I almost immediately stopped following people like Grant. I still think Gary is the real deal
totally agree with you bro
I’m basically spending the day watching your videos today
I really like your video Mike. If you have a contrepreneur course at 1997 to sell to learn people how to sell contrepreneurs course at 1997...I'm in 😂😂😂
Oh forget about the course I found another Guru discounted at 1997, normaly 10k instead of 5k...a lot more value 😆
Seriously, you do an amazing job exposing those lies and scammy tactics.
Point is don’t have role models in business. Lead by experience and don’t fall under the impression because they known means they know it all. It’s marketing at its finest.
Great content can't wait for your collab with Coffeezilla.
GREAT video, loved it.
Interestingly I went to a SR event back in 2016 to see Tony Robbins, it WAS actually worth the wait and all the pitches. I KNEW I would be pitched at. As an NLP practitioner and student of Psychology myself, I actually watched the speakers to see if I could pick up anything useful/interesting from the pitches and watching the audience reactions and I certainly did. There were some people who did it well and relatively ethically and then there were others who were appallingly shameless and ripping people off... Either way I learned a lot, so for me it was worth it. OH and I THINK it was "free" although it was in London, so I did have to pay for travel and accommodation, but I used National Express and Hostels, so really probably less than £100 for the whole 2 days and honestly the 60-90 minutes with Tony Robbins was actually well worth that! :D
It's been like this forever, especially these live events, I'm not really sure why people actually think that they can learn something useful or some secrets at these events. This best thing about these events is that you can network and meet some nice people, and make connections. Other than that it's just a BS and a huge waste of time. But then again, a lot of people think it's worth to pay for these events just to get a pic with Gary or Grant, and then use it later in ad creatives and what not.
I just saw the free videos on Gran Cardone, and helped me to be motivated and keep working hard. Now I have my business and I have contrats all over Latin America. YOU NEED TO WORK AFTER WATCHING VIDEOS ON TH-cam OR GOING TO EVENTS
Gran Cardone. He learned everything from that woman. She taught him 10x before he could walk.
@@MikeWinnet I think that Grant Cardone is just a motivational speaker, but I didn't learn about creating businesses or investments thanks to him, were my businesses skills and knowledge that helped me most.... I took some courses with some real estate developers from Australia and Mexico, and went back to university to specialize myself in construction, and had to do a lot of things . I just saw a lot of Grant Cardone's free videos on youtube to stay motivated. That worked for me... May be he is a scam as you say. It would be super sad if it so.
Thank you mate! hopefully you've helped me dodge one here! I've requested a refund already! 😆
It's all business and unless they are renting out a super bowl stadium there is no way it will make financial sense unless some other people have their fingers in the pie.
yeah i dont know much , but id be willing to guess at least 75% of the audience actually dont own any businesses
Crikey I bought a ticket but purely for Gary Vee, I'm not going if its just for half an hour I can see that on you tube... as for Grant cardone, not a fan anymore, he went on Jordan belforts podcast to try and mug him off and got smoked! He ended up challenging Jordan to a cage fight because his ego was so dented. Thanks for the video brother glad i came across this.
I hope Gary vee will watch this video, I think he s legit and should address this
David Piccinelli I think Gary posted this on his channel already. Lol
@@Tiktokshopsecrets of course he didn't.
I love that you are doing this Mike. PLEASE keep on exposing the sell from the stage scams that have hurt so many people.
Not gonna lie, thumbnail looks like James Corden screaming
Dude, you’re awesome at this. I need to start using the same strategy. You’ve picked the biggest names on social media and are able to have success riding on their coat tails...brilliant, simply brilliant
🤣 🤣 🤣 This is amazing, proper funny! Ps is London Real Brian Rose on your radar??
Good call.
I hope so! Brian Rose needs exposed
If you have been scammed by London Real there is a Facebook group devoted to helping people get their money back. Search in Facebook "London real support for people to get refund" we have helped lots of people get full refunds.
Alan Watt Roses courses are a total sham. We have managed to get 50/60 people their money back in full.
Gary always shares value whenever I listen to his stuff
I get that.
But what about headlining this type of event?
Something not right about it, no?
@@MikeWinnet exactly! However he tries to rationalize his own actions, he is complicit with the scam artists because he is allowing them to use his credibility to market their event. it doesn’t matter what he says.
To put it another way, Gary sounds like somebody who got invited to speak at a white Supremus rally and then claiming he should not be condemned because he didn’t say racist things. He still spoke at the event. He still gave credibility to the event. I use this over the top example to highlight why I don’t buy his excuses.
I’m waiting for someone successful to make a living trolling this entire market by setting up events, giving real info, but poking fun at everything in the industry.
To do this I think the company has to be making enough money on its own before it starts a tour like this, if so it could just poke all at the industry. Say charge $197 for the info, but ensure that everyone who can prove they have a pulse gets $197 off and then give them the google link to videos for whatever training they have.
I think you could make this a massive comedy skit and it’d be great pro bono work lol. (Could leave donation boxes at the exits for charity.)
Maybe Vaynerspeakers is the company to launch that?? :D
I'm loving this channel! I'm going to an S.R Event tomorrow....they got me at the cheap cost($29) but not before I saw this channel! Thankfully, I'll pop my head in towards the end. Ready for this shit show!
Seriously, u watch their TH-cam videos and u get their knowledge for free. Why pay?
If people do not pay for live events, there are no live speechee free videos on yt. Its a paradox
@@tarunlakhyani8952 TH-cam is free to produce. It's a promotional tool. Not the other way around.
when Gary popped out of the bag. XD "DUDE?"
If I pay all this money to sit through this shite, do I at least get to kick Brand square in the stones? If so take my money......
Liked, commented and subscribed, cheers for that quick short answer. Appreciate it. much love. You are great. Definitely want more. Keep it coming. Don't stop. Yeah boi. Keep more of that content coming.........
Hahah fucking genius ending the vid one minute in
You are the ADBUSTERS of online marketing, man! Slick production and entertaining, but showing off the seedy underbelly of the whole machine. Another video well done. (Also: it should read "there are," not "they're are")
The cheapest ticket in Australia was $39 to see both Grant and Gary speak (As well as all the other losers). If you fundamentally understand what you're getting yourself into, I don't think it's a complete waste of money.
Brilliant Mike. Excellent content and funny as f##k. Your on the ball mate 👌🏼
Listen to Gary Veynerchuk online instead, he's got great content online.
No convention can make you rich except you're self
I just unsubscribed from Gary Vee's podcast after watching this video. Always had the feeling it was mostly fluff. Thanks for confirming.
I'm gonna be totally real with you, anyone that doesn't have highly specific tactics to overcome the very specific obstacle i'm facing is an instant no to me. "hustle" anyone that says that phrase 1000x immediately suspicious I don't think they're totally worthless for everyone. Some people may get value but for me, and what I'm looking for all these guys are a plague. And, worse they manipulate search results to where you can never find what your looking for. "doctor in dallas" search results - 10 day course to be a the millionaire dr. of instagram lol.
@@CobraAquinas There's a deep truth in "hustle". Succes doesn't come over night. I see it like this. Do you want to become succesful? Be prepared to not do a 9-5 but a 6am-12am job. Keep that up for as long as you can, until you're actually making money while you sleep. Delegate all your work. Invest into something new. repeat. Th way these speakers present the work tho, is not at all representative of the work you'll have to put in.
@@thespector8587 Yeah, i hear you man, there's no way to interpret exactly where someone's coming from on the internet or what their experience level is so I'm going to assume you're coming from a genuine well meaning place. Imagine, you wanted to cross a busy intersection in a major city on foot. And, then imagine I created a seminar where I yelled about waiting til the light is green. Constantly is that true that, that works? yes, and it's confirmed by everyone that it's obviously true so you feel successful hearing this truth. However, what if you didn't know you had to press a button for the the light to turn green? what about basic safety like having your shoes tied so you don't fall in the road. Walk don't run the basics. What about different cities have different rules for where you can walk, and when you can walk across. You see, all i'm saying is to provide value it may not be as popular because it's more in detail, and there's a real need for it there's an over saturation of " wait for the light to be green" I hope you see where I'm coming from, and I want you to know I respect you as a person, and I don't intend to demean or belittle you because we're on the internet and not face to face.
@@CobraAquinas 100% agree with you on that. Much fluff, no real value. I'm glad I figured most of the things out on my own with the power of the internet.
Well done guys, thanks for advising me 👍🏽
I agree. Success Resources seminars are not what they seem. Be very wary of the fine print.
Grant Cardone offers no value. Period. He got owned by Jordan Belfort last week. I know you like Gary Vee but he is so basic with what he says. What value does he even offer ?? Waste of time and money.
Grant offers tons of value. If you don't get value from grant then you are blind or you're don't look for value
Grant got owned pretty hard. Gary V admits he's basic. He also points out that nearly 100% of people won't even do the basic things he suggests.
Good point! Thanks!
how did JBF own GC? interested to see
@@redblaze891 I've got fish!!!!!
Hilarious video mate