@@KeCoCollects We'll see. I've made this mistake mannnnnny times myself. It's hard to not overreact to a product if there's something perceivably jarring about the final photos. It's natural for us collectors, but it can often backfire. We'll discuss Friday for LCC babbyyyyy
Just discovering your CH and your industry perspectives with little/no hyperbole it seems and you may be my new FAV large scale action figure cat. There is a ton of newbie users like me that literally have more Qs re: industry practices, YT advice, MFG truths, etc, etc. SUBSCRIBED! Thanks!
I didn't order an INART Batman but I did a Hot Toys. Very curious to see the INART Batman unboxing videos when they drop. I did notice that in the picture of the INART Batman that had four of them, all four had distinctly different hair shapes and the first one on the left looked the best. Couldn't tell if all the head sculpts were the same but I will say generally, the face looks a bit gaunt and the preproduction sculpts looked better but not neccessarily more accurate. I have my fingers crossed for the collecting community and INART as a company. I always say there's nothing to worry about until there is and the photos shown aren't enough to make me worry for anyone. If I had an INART Batman ordererd I wouldn't worry yet until it was in my hand. Good luck everyone. SHIPPING? I waited 2 years exactly for the Hot Toys Batman to get to my door and this was after Sideshow posted changing shipping times like 5 times over 9 months and funny on their website still posts shipping February and I got mine Last Friday in March. All of that being said I would be more tolerant about INART's delays because at least they reached out to the community.
This is taken from a bad angle in trash lighting, I think it needs to be seen in hand before anyone starts panicking. Everyone freaked out when Pennywise was released and then when people got it in hand and futzed with it the opinion changed and everyone thought it was great. So I’ll reserve judgment until there’s in hand photos. If at that point it still looks trash then I will definitely eat my words.
Exactly. It's always the same, time and time again. People act like prepubescents, jumping the gun, getting too carried away, both negatively and positively, based off only a few photographs. Prudence is a premium. This time next week it may well be a very different story.
Thanks for keeping it real and giving an honest opinion about your thoughts! As it's always been your collection is reflection of you and your personality and should not be anyone else's! Keeping it honest and always transparent Keco is dropping 🔥 like always!
I still don't know what is wrong with the new headsculpt. Everyone is complaining and maybe its because I bought this one and im coping but I don't see anything wrong with it. although I did not get the rooted hair version so maybe that is what everyone is complaining about?? Idk. Not to mention everyone was complaining about pennywise when those pictures were released but it looks good in person so that is why I am fine with influencers getting the figures first so I can see high quality in hand photos and videos
Also not a Hot toys fanboy as I collect what I want from any company… And I agree, competition is good for us consumers. But I can honestly say this time around, that I’m glad I got the Hot Toys version of this figure and passed on this one.
You brought some interesting points, I don’t believe any company is infallible, what I find telling is how the company resolves the issue that is at hand…if they ignore the issues or complaints or if they own the issue and try to resolve it quickly is what I look for in any company that I will come back to for future purchases …time will tell for InArt
No. While I think Hot Toys has the better likeness - at least going by these production pictures - the quality/realism of Inart's paint apps look outstanding, download and zoom into the photo to see what I mean. Also the costume and proportions look very good. Hopefully we'll get some video footage soon.
@dbg5081 Well said. I'm all for feedback and critiques, but this could ("could" because future photos/video might show the sculpt off in a much better light) be a case where listening too much to the community can be a bad thing. Personally, I thought the original likeness on the prototype was the best, and has appeared to have got worse with each revision. The comments on Inart's facebook page has so many contrasting observations, which if taken onboard, will lead to confusion and arguably a scenario where more people are upset. There has to be balance. People often say that a likeness is subjective. I don't agree with this at all. Enjoyment is subjective, quality and accuracy is not. A while back, I had a back and forth with a collector who was convinced that the Hot Toys 1/4 Heath Ledger Joker likeness was perfect, when objectively it isn't the case, almost everything was wrong with the portrait - hair colour, hairstyle, shape of the head, jawline, slope of the forehead, eyes..... I digress. Bottom line: Inart have the best references, that being The Batman film, video/stills, behind-the-scenes material etc.
I don't know, I think it looks really good. I think the problem some are having is from the angle of the shot. The should get some glamour shots out quick.
So I was always going to get the hot toys version of Battinson, simply because I wanted the package with the Bat Signal(should be arriving tomorrow!!!) but with that said I was hoping InArt could deliver on this because it just looked so flipping great. I also was selfishly hoping they could deliver because I am all types of hyped over the Paul Atreides figure which looks out of this world! It would have given me more confidence that they could deliver on such a lofty prototype dream had this come closer to expectations.
I “think” it’ll turn out okay but the scary thing is that it still doesn’t negate 90% of what you said. I’m losing confidence, fast! Literally only thing holding me to even keeping them on my radar is the promise of figures that I know Hot Toys won’t do (Danny / HP). At some point, SOME POINT, you have to deliver the product and on-time!
@@KeCoCollects I just don’t see how given the price points of figs/displays and most collectors budgets, how a large number of collectors will continue dealing w/ delays and batch’s. Planning a year out is hard enough without the windows moving. The business model seems risky and they can’t have a “miss” with such few figures being completed. Even the “I’ll wait however long” crowd is dwindling but hopefully they figure it all out 🤷🏻♂️
I don't think it looks bad. Although a straight forward photo is what's needed for a better comparison. If batch 1 has a flaw, does batch 2 and so on, get the issue resolved? Fix it before the 2nd release?
@@KeCoCollects i just saw your new vid with the new fancy rocks. Do they come in different colour stone washes. What a bunch of jokers. No pun intended.
Bro I love you bringing the heat and sharing your thoughts. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said, mainly on how long they take to release things. For me personally, I just got my Gandalf a couple weeks ago and with how good he turned out I’d wait forever to receive something as beautiful as him. My favorite figure of all time currently, but damn does this head sculpt look rough. I’m really disappointed and hope it’s not as bad in hand as it is in these photos.
To be fair with the likes of hot toys or inart ect. Some of the problems lie with the license holder, they have a say in the products themselves. Hence delays and last minute changes
Couldn't agree more with your views. My biggest gripe is the over promising. Still waiting for Gandalf. I just don't think there is currently any viable competition for Hot Toys which is sad because its competition that drives innovation and perfection! Great Vid!
Wow! No Gandalf Yet?? I own two Asmus (white and grey) and I love them that I did not consider to get the INART version but I preorder the Aragorn which I Am waiting impatiently
I don't know if this is so much a sculpt issue as it seems to be a possible hair issue. People are saying the sculpted hair portrait looks good but not the rooted hair. If im not mistaken, I highly doubt they created two separate scultps for the same exact figures. From the ONLY two angles that they showed for this, its not a clear shot of the sculpt to even judge it. There are no direct frontal pics to show yet. I'm not sure if there is too much hair or if the hair wasn't futzed with enough. There does, however, seem to be some issue in that area with the initial pics. The tailoring and accessories look amazing from the initial pics. Hopefully, we will soon see for sure.
Also..not for nothing but I think its fair to say Hot Toys main response to the InArt line is their Artisan Collection, we have yet to see what that looks like. Im curious if they will be able to match their prototype quality. I know figures like their Anakin are pretty limited, so maybe limiting the production numbers will help better insure the quality control
This figure is a direct competition with hot toys so they had to nail it. I'll always wait to see reviews in hand, and not just "influencer" reviews promoting inart or people trying to make the best of a bad purchase, but a genuine review. I went with the rooted inart to display the head sculpt...if it's super trash ill be using the cowl which defeats the purpose of the extra bucks. Inart will damage themselves pretty severely if this release is trash...the bar will be even higher for themselves. I already did my joker 4 pack 🤣🤣 but it will make me pause on future preorders
Well, I ordered mine from that company that shall not be named so my chances of getting mine are pretty grim. Hopefully future realeases from InArt will be direct. I don't like the batch system either as it makes getting the figure just a luck of the draw. When they take longer than Moducase then you know you have a problem lol.
Hot toys is known for long waits and delays. They are also known for dropping the ball on at least 60% of their sculpts from proto. They are still around. A bit melodramatic to say Inart will not exist if they do the same. History proves that theory wrong. Anything can happen. I do feel they need to elevate above Hot Toys if they are going to do well in this market at this price point. Time will tell. Side note, I thought the sculpt looked odd from that angle, but its too early to tell.
My main issue is that if you are struggling to deliver 3 figures, they need to figure something out because that isn't sustainable. Hot toys may miss on deadlines as well, but they also deliver 20x more products. Granted a 3 year old company vs a 20 year old one certainly needs to be considered as well and I understand that - but production needs to be ramped up
I can't say it's "helpful" but it nice to listen to someone's opinion that is not getting a cut one way or the other. "Helpful" to me is someone paying for the figure....now that's helpful.
Honestly, this was to be the first InART release I was expecting to pick up but the final is a hard downgrade from proto like you mentioned. The headsculpt looks like Battinson had his face sucked in a bit. I picked up the batcycle and was planning on having HT Battinson ride it while the InART sculpted hair portrait would hang out on to the side of it but now I don't know. I'll wait until some people have it in hand for the final verdict. Funny how Riley, InART's main Batman hypeman is nowhere to be found today. Normally he's the first to post on his FB group and it's all crickets today.
@KeCoCollects at the end of the day we all just want good figures, especially for what we pay. We have to hold these companies accountable when they try to give less than promised. Hopefully just a case of bad angle and lighting! I really like the reaction videos to final product or even pre-order promos! Keep up the good work KeCo!
Daniel from chat and Riley from Reviews are going to become traumatised vigilantes if these figures suck. The longer you delay the midman the more mid he becomes "I am vengeance, I am mid" as he said in the movie. It's a shame! I think the Bruce Wayne looks great but the unmasked batman looks like he just saw himself in the mirror.
Honestly, I'm straight up glad I went with the scuplted. The scuplted is way better, in my opinion. The hair is weird , but yet again look at ledgers rooted joker hot toys showed. It looked horrible and after they fixed the hair boom, it looked so much better.
Same. He looks like he's stuck his fingers into a power socket in those photos. I will only go down the rooted path for figures with long hair, sculpted can look excellent provided the stranding is fine (like the Inart Cavill prototype) and not like linguine.
I have the inart Joker with the jail cell I bought on eBay. I really like that figure but I would not put my money down for anything with this company until they develop a track record of reliability. My fear is it’s a pyramid scheme and 11:03 I will be left with nothing.
My word, Keco, you've stirred the hornets nest, you're quite the provocateur and very entertaining to boot. I most certainly agree with you about "influencer" privilege, especially when it comes to Inart simply because their pre-order windows are long closed before the reviews come along. In these instances, the "influencers" are mostly assisting the flippers/secondhand sellers, although I suppose one could argue that someone like Justin will draw more attention to Inart and their future products, than they will secure more purchases for the piece they're reviewing. And yes, the batch system needs to do one - early adopters should not be guinea pigs; receiving inferior products. Inart should invest more in QC, having a second or third filter in place.
It does look like a downgrade for sure. For me, the hair styling looks off, too frizzy or something. I’m curious if the sculpted version alleviates this problem (I ordered the sculpted standard version).
Honestly hot toys made head sculpt really great..specially in cowl..inart had great sculpt at first but after they revisited it I gotta say I don’t see likeness in it anymore..hot toys wins for me this one
@@KeCoCollects I love inart but hot toys looks more appealing to me right now..but looking forward to the new releases from inart..as you say competition and choices are great in this hobby
Base on some of the comments, I will say the lighting and the angle do make the headsculpt looks different from the prototype. Am I concerned? Slightly. I will reserve my judgement until I have in hands. Receiving it is more of a concern. INART still hasn't confirm the shipment date. I suspect this is going to take a while.
@@KeCoCollects I'm with you. I understand INART doesn't have the global licence. This means collectors have to find a reliable resellers AND hope the product will show up in a reasonable timeframe. To me, this is not a good buying experience regardless of the quality of the product. I preordered mine from Onesixthkit so I'm not worried. The concern is WHEN. I preordered mine late so I'm sure I won't get it after summer. The batch system is not working. Here're my suggestions: - INART should set a realistic timeline and stick to it. Add 20% buffer to any offical release date. Expectation is important. I will rather knowing I have to wait a year than mislead to getting the product in the same amount of time - Preorder with full payment should receive the product first. This naturally creates a batch system that IMO is fair - Alternatively, INART should know the capacity of their factories. This means, once the preorder number exceeds the capacity, any orders should be in the next "batch" with an updated timeline Folks should separate the product and the whole buying experience. Right now, the buying experience is not great. PS: Huge fan of the weekly Friday live stream of you and Willfoxication
This video truly aged like milk. You judge way too quickly and harshly based off photos with bad angles. After seeing new videos and photos released from Chinese collectors, InArt definitely hit it with this one.
I"m happy I haven't been interested in either the Inart or Hot Toys Batman. I enjoyed the movie but not enough to shell out the money for this guy. It always amuses me the dramatic reactionary reactions to almost every release of photos of highly anticipated figures. there is always someone that has their panties in a twist about something. I don't have any of the two Inart figures that have been released but from what I've seen that batch system really sux.
@@KeCoCollects I don’t collect HotToys, Inart or any high end 1/6th scale, i collect 1/12th like Mezco, threezero, Mafex, etc. what is considered bad on a HotToys and Inart figure head sculpt, to me the two head sculpts look really good to me, what should i be looking for, because I don’t see what HotToys and Inart collectors see.
Damn it’s Chicken Little all over again. The headsculpt looks to be the same. How many times do we need this knee jerk reaction before we realize photos usually suck. It’s the in hand photo we need. Also the batch system is fine. Complaint you are given is that you want yours first. I get it but it’s an entitled mentality I can’t support. There is no way to ensure everyone gets their copy at the same time. Not even Hot Toys does that.
The issue is waiting MONTHS with no rhyme or reason as to when they will ship. Even when they communicate they can't stick to their timelines. Consistency is all I'm asking. No excuse for people still waiting for Gandalf
This has to be bad photography, that would explain why most of the face sculps look so different. Inart did not sculpt several different portraits and decided to use them all for a photo up. Their batch system does SUCK and I hope they remp up production but not at the cost of quality.
Inarts batch system is no joke its 100% terrible. But their latest photos look good not worse. The sculpt is similar to their latest proto, and the hair just needs to be futz and wet same one we saw from the last events. People are over dramatic and not actually looking at the side by side photos. The "Update" photo as well looks nothing like the last event or final so it's difficult to assume that the final will be close to those photos. Let's not forget the bad angle they took from this as well.
It's all your fault, Keko. During that 11/16/23 interview on @WillFoxification you had plenty of chance to ask InArt's John about distribution but you never ever did, did you? 😁
Keco, I understand your dissatisfaction and concern but…..you can’t compare two sculpts based on one low res picture that is shot from a different angle with extreme zoom. As a photographer you probably know better than anybody that lighting and angles plays a pivotal role in how we perceive an object; that is especially true of human faces….Personally, when you showed two pictures side by side I did not spot any glaring differences/imperfections when compared to the prototype. If we want to make a more objective comparison we need to find photos of the actor with a similar angles or wait until InArt posts better pictures.
See, that's my issue. This is a professional company. They have EVERY opportunity to put their best foot forward and just are not. They have a highly anticipated product and they thought those photos were their best? That's problematic. But I agree, we do need to see more first .
Hold up. You threw me off saying you pre ordered the inart version after saying for the longest time you were fine with your hot toys pre order. When did this change? 🤥 I don’t have a horse in that race of which is better. But you flipped on what you’ve been saying for the longest of time on your stance on The Batman figure. Smh. Lol
I preordered about 3-4 months ago after HT refused to ship mine. I thought if I was gonna have HT with the cowel, this would be the perfect one to show the sculpt
Hmmm. So I don't know anything about the algorithm of youtube, but I'm assuming the more you upload, the more relevant you are? So this kind of quick reaction video looks easy enough to do and push out the door so maybe it'll help you get more eyes on your awesome channel. As far as the topic, I'm really hoping it's just a bad picture and it turns out good. I said this on a previous video of Will's. InArt and despite their ridiculous prices, JND, need to succeed to pressure Hot Toys to do better. Neck bulge Spideys, single jointed female Mandalorians, visible jointed figures, hell, even the waist clamp for spidey and superman figures that famage them over time are lazy and should be abandoned. They can't juat rest on their laurels as king of the hill. They have to continue to innovate
Karen collects with a premature reaction, lol. I am with you on the influencer batch. No one moves the needle for a business except Justin. He should be the only one getting a figure early. Everyone else should be on a first-come, first-served basis.
@@KeCoCollects Actually, I would throw in Big Breda as well. He's in China, so it makes sense. But anyone else besides two named aren't going to drive sales.
Imagine being a new company having 3 amazing releases and one that looks questionable but still to be determined and act like Inart can’t sustain quality and is about to crash and burn 😂😂😂 this is the kind of take that makes collectors look silly. I agree however the batch system is garbage
I just wanna say: 1st , I’m truly hoping the endlessly delayed for changes Aragorn ,doesn’t suffer the same fate of getting inferior at the end ,just like this Batman. And 2nd PREACH! I’m soooooo sick and tired by the fake “ transparency “ by InArt and all of their excuses . But I’m more tired by their blindly obedient fans , who not only try gaslight us not to believe our own eyes ,but also would try shut down any valid customer criticism ,when it comes to inaccuracy ,but far more when it comes to delays ,slow shipping and broken batch system. With all of the excuses they bombard us with ,that you quoted . InArt will never get better ,because of blind followers , they will turn like JND.
This is borderline fearmongering and isn't what I subscribe for. Even if you believe what you're preaching, why make a video inciting panic among the community based on a photo or two taken from poor angles when we know we're going to see HK collectors and influencers posting video of their figure in the next week or two? The criticism in this video also goes well beyond the photos and once again attacks InArt's ability to deliver a product the literal day after the deadline they set themselves. Not unwarranted, but perhaps unnecessary. This kind of content does not help anyone and should have been reserved for after we've seen full coverage of the figure.
Fearmongering seems a bit harsh - they are toys at the end of the day. It's just a discussion for the community - nothing nefarious or deeper than that. I'm sorry it didn't hit with you.
"This is borderline fearmongering and isn't what I subscribe for." No it isn't. It is one guy giving his opinion on photographs which were posted by Inart themselves. It's difficult to tell if you're genuinely fearmongered, or whether you're adopting an offended veneer - because you are not getting the affirmation you seemingly appear so desperate to receive - to guilt Karen Collects into opinion compliance, into towing the line, get him to clap like a hungry seal & suck that corporate schlong. "Even if you believe what you're preaching, why make a video inciting panic among the community" Projection. I ask if you honestly believe what you're saying here? If you truly think that collectors will be triggered into a panic simply because of one mans views on a collectable figurine?? First World problems at its finest. A case of the bigotry of low expectations methinks. Speak for yourself, sure, but don't act like we're all part of some kind of hivemind. People are not as fragile as what you make them out to be, well at least most aren't. "This kind of content does not help anyone and should have been reserved for after we've seen full coverage of the figure." Again, speak for yourself. I enjoyed it, and so did many others going by the videos positive ratio of 300 likes to 18 dislikes. It is also helpful for me because it is the first time I have seen these production pictures. Why should it, this reaction, be reserved until we have seen full coverage of the figure? Whatever happened to case-by-case basis. Kar...Keco is reacting to what Inart have put out. What next?! Are we not allowed to air our views on prototypes, work-in-progress changes ... I am certain Keco will make additional videos as & when more media becomes available, and who knows, he may just provide you with the solace you appear so desperate to receive.
I really don't think your over reacting! All things In Art have been pretty sad. Competition is what we all want but sadly it has not even been that! By the way the In Art Pennywise was trash!!!!
INART Batman Figure of the ye-…. Yea we’re cooked
Helluva comment lol
Still gonna be figure of the year, hold out hope
They cooked, just maybe undercooked a little bit. Lol
Riley continues to jinx his most anticipated figures. First tobey and now this lmao
@@MarcAttacklmao
👀I have a feeling this reaction may backfire. Remember, we did the exact same thing with pennywise (including me) and we know how that one turned out
Ehhh. That was more tailoring -- this IS THE SCULPT
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@@KeCoCollects We'll see. I've made this mistake mannnnnny times myself. It's hard to not overreact to a product if there's something perceivably jarring about the final photos. It's natural for us collectors, but it can often backfire. We'll discuss Friday for LCC babbyyyyy
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@@KeCoCollectsHello beastie
Just discovering your CH and your industry perspectives with little/no hyperbole it seems and you may be my new FAV large scale action figure cat.
There is a ton of newbie users like me that literally have more Qs re: industry practices, YT advice, MFG truths, etc, etc.
SUBSCRIBED!
Thanks!
Wow! Much appreciated- I'll do my best!
I didn't order an INART Batman but I did a Hot Toys. Very curious to see the INART Batman unboxing videos when they drop. I did notice that in the picture of the INART Batman that had four of them, all four had distinctly different hair shapes and the first one on the left looked the best. Couldn't tell if all the head sculpts were the same but I will say generally, the face looks a bit gaunt and the preproduction sculpts looked better but not neccessarily more accurate. I have my fingers crossed for the collecting community and INART as a company. I always say there's nothing to worry about until there is and the photos shown aren't enough to make me worry for anyone. If I had an INART Batman ordererd I wouldn't worry yet until it was in my hand. Good luck everyone. SHIPPING? I waited 2 years exactly for the Hot Toys Batman to get to my door and this was after Sideshow posted changing shipping times like 5 times over 9 months and funny on their website still posts shipping February and I got mine Last Friday in March. All of that being said I would be more tolerant about INART's delays because at least they reached out to the community.
The variance between them is interesting for sure
My dude the head sculpts look exactly the same.... they have the same creases and lines on the face etc...
This is taken from a bad angle in trash lighting, I think it needs to be seen in hand before anyone starts panicking. Everyone freaked out when Pennywise was released and then when people got it in hand and futzed with it the opinion changed and everyone thought it was great. So I’ll reserve judgment until there’s in hand photos. If at that point it still looks trash then I will definitely eat my words.
Trust me, I'm hoping that's the case!
@@KeCoCollectslet’s hope lol
Exactly. It's always the same, time and time again. People act like prepubescents, jumping the gun, getting too carried away, both negatively and positively, based off only a few photographs. Prudence is a premium. This time next week it may well be a very different story.
Thanks for keeping it real and giving an honest opinion about your thoughts! As it's always been your collection is reflection of you and your personality and should not be anyone else's! Keeping it honest and always transparent Keco is dropping 🔥 like always!
Thank you friend!
Like the figures just the batch system and delays on top of that just can’t see it been sustainable hope I’m wrong and they speed up great video Keco
Thanks for watching! Hoping for better speed myself!
I still don't know what is wrong with the new headsculpt. Everyone is complaining and maybe its because I bought this one and im coping but I don't see anything wrong with it. although I did not get the rooted hair version so maybe that is what everyone is complaining about?? Idk. Not to mention everyone was complaining about pennywise when those pictures were released but it looks good in person so that is why I am fine with influencers getting the figures first so I can see high quality in hand photos and videos
Waiting for sure for official pics, but ... concerning
This video is just about to age like my grandma..
It's been a fun discussion lol
Also not a Hot toys fanboy as I collect what I want from any company… And I agree, competition is good for us consumers. But I can honestly say this time around, that I’m glad I got the Hot Toys version of this figure and passed on this one.
Not a bad product at all!
Glad I got the Hot Toys one. HT is definitely hit or miss, but they knocked it out of the park with The Batman
Can confirm!
Awesome video Keco and hopefully the Inart figure looks better in hand.
I hope you are right!
You brought some interesting points, I don’t believe any company is infallible, what I find telling is how the company resolves the issue that is at hand…if they ignore the issues or complaints or if they own the issue and try to resolve it quickly is what I look for in any company that I will come back to for future purchases …time will tell for InArt
Time will tell indeed!
No. While I think Hot Toys has the better likeness - at least going by these production pictures - the quality/realism of Inart's paint apps look outstanding, download and zoom into the photo to see what I mean. Also the costume and proportions look very good. Hopefully we'll get some video footage soon.
Hopefully!
Completely agree with you. Inart looks more life-like but the likeness is far worse from what I can tell in these pictures.
@dbg5081 Well said. I'm all for feedback and critiques, but this could ("could" because future photos/video might show the sculpt off in a much better light) be a case where listening too much to the community can be a bad thing. Personally, I thought the original likeness on the prototype was the best, and has appeared to have got worse with each revision. The comments on Inart's facebook page has so many contrasting observations, which if taken onboard, will lead to confusion and arguably a scenario where more people are upset. There has to be balance.
People often say that a likeness is subjective. I don't agree with this at all. Enjoyment is subjective, quality and accuracy is not. A while back, I had a back and forth with a collector who was convinced that the Hot Toys 1/4 Heath Ledger Joker likeness was perfect, when objectively it isn't the case, almost everything was wrong with the portrait - hair colour, hairstyle, shape of the head, jawline, slope of the forehead, eyes..... I digress. Bottom line: Inart have the best references, that being The Batman film, video/stills, behind-the-scenes material etc.
I don't know, I think it looks really good. I think the problem some are having is from the angle of the shot. The should get some glamour shots out quick.
I think they will do just that for sure
So I was always going to get the hot toys version of Battinson, simply because I wanted the package with the Bat Signal(should be arriving tomorrow!!!) but with that said I was hoping InArt could deliver on this because it just looked so flipping great. I also was selfishly hoping they could deliver because I am all types of hyped over the Paul Atreides figure which looks out of this world! It would have given me more confidence that they could deliver on such a lofty prototype dream had this come closer to expectations.
We will wait for final judgement in hand, but I'm concerned
I “think” it’ll turn out okay but the scary thing is that it still doesn’t negate 90% of what you said. I’m losing confidence, fast! Literally only thing holding me to even keeping them on my radar is the promise of figures that I know Hot Toys won’t do (Danny / HP). At some point, SOME POINT, you have to deliver the product and on-time!
Or at least, stick to what you say. If you say end of March, it better be end of March
@@KeCoCollects I just don’t see how given the price points of figs/displays and most collectors budgets, how a large number of collectors will continue dealing w/ delays and batch’s. Planning a year out is hard enough without the windows moving. The business model seems risky and they can’t have a “miss” with such few figures being completed. Even the “I’ll wait however long” crowd is dwindling but hopefully they figure it all out 🤷🏻♂️
I don't think it looks bad. Although a straight forward photo is what's needed for a better comparison.
If batch 1 has a flaw, does batch 2 and so on, get the issue resolved? Fix it before the 2nd release?
That's my question as well... you can't go back and redo the sculpt. People with first batch would freak out
I wear glasses but.... Am I missing something? 😅 The head looks good and it's a good likeness for Robert Pattinson
Perhaps - we will know soon with better photos
But do they do fancy shrub bases?
lol - they sure do!
@@KeCoCollects i just saw your new vid with the new fancy rocks. Do they come in different colour stone washes. What a bunch of jokers. No pun intended.
another excellent video Keco, but if you make another video of this type, suggestion, post more photos of the product, to make more comparisons
Noted!!
Bro I love you bringing the heat and sharing your thoughts. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said, mainly on how long they take to release things. For me personally, I just got my Gandalf a couple weeks ago and with how good he turned out I’d wait forever to receive something as beautiful as him. My favorite figure of all time currently, but damn does this head sculpt look rough. I’m really disappointed and hope it’s not as bad in hand as it is in these photos.
Fingers crossed!
To be fair with the likes of hot toys or inart ect. Some of the problems lie with the license holder, they have a say in the products themselves. Hence delays and last minute changes
Definitely possible... but if you can't be certain, don't ever put out dates because everyone freaks out when you miss them.
Couldn't agree more with your views. My biggest gripe is the over promising. Still waiting for Gandalf. I just don't think there is currently any viable competition for Hot Toys which is sad because its competition that drives innovation and perfection! Great Vid!
Thanks friend! We will know soon enough what's up
Well said bro. I'm still waiting on my Gandalf.😊
Standing in solidarity with you ✊🏼
Wow! No Gandalf Yet?? I own two Asmus (white and grey) and I love them that I did not consider to get the INART version but I preorder the Aragorn which I Am waiting impatiently
I got my Gandalf about 2 months ago from TW even sent me a replacement hand but been waiting for Shang Chi over a year
Yup. I ordered mine through spec fiction. I also own the asmus Gandalfs. Love them too.
You are so gonna love your Gandalf !
I don't know if this is so much a sculpt issue as it seems to be a possible hair issue. People are saying the sculpted hair portrait looks good but not the rooted hair.
If im not mistaken, I highly doubt they created two separate scultps for the same exact figures. From the ONLY two angles that they showed for this, its not a clear shot of the sculpt to even judge it. There are no direct frontal pics to show yet.
I'm not sure if there is too much hair or if the hair wasn't futzed with enough. There does, however, seem to be some issue in that area with the initial pics. The tailoring and accessories look amazing from the initial pics. Hopefully, we will soon see for sure.
Yeah, def the same sculpt and HOPEFULLY it's the hair
Also..not for nothing but I think its fair to say Hot Toys main response to the InArt line is their Artisan Collection, we have yet to see what that looks like. Im curious if they will be able to match their prototype quality. I know figures like their Anakin are pretty limited, so maybe limiting the production numbers will help better insure the quality control
Artisan is for sure a response
This figure is a direct competition with hot toys so they had to nail it. I'll always wait to see reviews in hand, and not just "influencer" reviews promoting inart or people trying to make the best of a bad purchase, but a genuine review. I went with the rooted inart to display the head sculpt...if it's super trash ill be using the cowl which defeats the purpose of the extra bucks. Inart will damage themselves pretty severely if this release is trash...the bar will be even higher for themselves. I already did my joker 4 pack 🤣🤣 but it will make me pause on future preorders
All this is me ☝️
Well, I ordered mine from that company that shall not be named so my chances of getting mine are pretty grim. Hopefully future realeases from InArt will be direct. I don't like the batch system either as it makes getting the figure just a luck of the draw. When they take longer than Moducase then you know you have a problem lol.
Uh ohhh. Good luck
Hot toys is known for long waits and delays. They are also known for dropping the ball on at least 60% of their sculpts from proto. They are still around. A bit melodramatic to say Inart will not exist if they do the same. History proves that theory wrong. Anything can happen. I do feel they need to elevate above Hot Toys if they are going to do well in this market at this price point. Time will tell. Side note, I thought the sculpt looked odd from that angle, but its too early to tell.
My main issue is that if you are struggling to deliver 3 figures, they need to figure something out because that isn't sustainable. Hot toys may miss on deadlines as well, but they also deliver 20x more products. Granted a 3 year old company vs a 20 year old one certainly needs to be considered as well and I understand that - but production needs to be ramped up
Damn. I thought it was Friday already. Hot takes early this week. 🥵
I couldn't sit back and just say nothing lol
I can't say it's "helpful" but it nice to listen to someone's opinion that is not getting a cut one way or the other. "Helpful" to me is someone paying for the figure....now that's helpful.
Appreciate you watching!
No, it isn’t time to panic. The figure isn’t out. Everyone did this with pennywise too.
Hopefully, but that was tailoring and outfit issues... this is the main sculpt.
@@KeCoCollects 😬
Honestly, this was to be the first InART release I was expecting to pick up but the final is a hard downgrade from proto like you mentioned. The headsculpt looks like Battinson had his face sucked in a bit. I picked up the batcycle and was planning on having HT Battinson ride it while the InART sculpted hair portrait would hang out on to the side of it but now I don't know. I'll wait until some people have it in hand for the final verdict. Funny how Riley, InART's main Batman hypeman is nowhere to be found today. Normally he's the first to post on his FB group and it's all crickets today.
He's in the comments here lol
@@KeCoCollects I saw that about 2 minutes after I posted. LMAO
Luckily if people do panic they've got a whole year to calm down before they actually get them lol.
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Uh oh the worst possible thing has been unleashed.....The Final Boss Hollywood Keco!!!
LOL at Cody Cry Babies
New companies don't get passes on anything. They will be more scrutinized.
Fair point for sure
I think it looks fine personally. But i wanna hold judgement til we get better photos
For sure!
@KeCoCollects at the end of the day we all just want good figures, especially for what we pay. We have to hold these companies accountable when they try to give less than promised. Hopefully just a case of bad angle and lighting! I really like the reaction videos to final product or even pre-order promos! Keep up the good work KeCo!
Daniel from chat and Riley from Reviews are going to become traumatised vigilantes if these figures suck. The longer you delay the midman the more mid he becomes "I am vengeance, I am mid" as he said in the movie. It's a shame! I think the Bruce Wayne looks great but the unmasked batman looks like he just saw himself in the mirror.
Lolll. Riley is coping best he can I hope
Stop making so much sense, Keco. 😮💨
What else can I say!? Lol
Honestly, I'm straight up glad I went with the scuplted. The scuplted is way better, in my opinion. The hair is weird , but yet again look at ledgers rooted joker hot toys showed. It looked horrible and after they fixed the hair boom, it looked so much better.
The sculpted version does appear to look a little better
Same. He looks like he's stuck his fingers into a power socket in those photos. I will only go down the rooted path for figures with long hair, sculpted can look excellent provided the stranding is fine (like the Inart Cavill prototype) and not like linguine.
Could you imagine this figure taking forever to come out and the Hot Toys version turning out to be the better looking figure? 😮
Having mine in hand, I'm inclined to agree right now 👀
@@KeCoCollects Gotta pour one out for everyone who was counting on InArt 🥲
Head looks undersized and he looks about decade older… prob just bad angles and lighting but those were my instant reactions
Hopeful!
I have the inart Joker with the jail cell I bought on eBay. I really like that figure but I would not put my money down for anything with this company until they develop a track record of reliability. My fear is it’s a pyramid scheme and 11:03 I will be left with nothing.
I sure hope not
I wouldn’t go as far as saying this release is a mess but I would say certain aspects of the photos are currently questionable.
We shall see for sure
My word, Keco, you've stirred the hornets nest, you're quite the provocateur and very entertaining to boot.
I most certainly agree with you about "influencer" privilege, especially when it comes to Inart simply because their pre-order windows are long closed before the reviews come along. In these instances, the "influencers" are mostly assisting the flippers/secondhand sellers, although I suppose one could argue that someone like Justin will draw more attention to Inart and their future products, than they will secure more purchases for the piece they're reviewing.
And yes, the batch system needs to do one - early adopters should not be guinea pigs; receiving inferior products. Inart should invest more in QC, having a second or third filter in place.
My biggest beef will always be the batch system. Final answer
looks the same with dif light... we will see.
I'm still hopeful.
Now I'm worried about my Aragorn's face...
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It does look like a downgrade for sure. For me, the hair styling looks off, too frizzy or something. I’m curious if the sculpted version alleviates this problem (I ordered the sculpted standard version).
Most are saying the sculpted is much better looking
Honestly hot toys made head sculpt really great..specially in cowl..inart had great sculpt at first but after they revisited it I gotta say I don’t see likeness in it anymore..hot toys wins for me this one
We will know very soon I hope
@@KeCoCollects I love inart but hot toys looks more appealing to me right now..but looking forward to the new releases from inart..as you say competition and choices are great in this hobby
Base on some of the comments, I will say the lighting and the angle do make the headsculpt looks different from the prototype. Am I concerned? Slightly. I will reserve my judgement until I have in hands. Receiving it is more of a concern. INART still hasn't confirm the shipment date. I suspect this is going to take a while.
And that's what is so frustrating - having no idea when the average person gets theirs
@@KeCoCollects I'm with you. I understand INART doesn't have the global licence. This means collectors have to find a reliable resellers AND hope the product will show up in a reasonable timeframe. To me, this is not a good buying experience regardless of the quality of the product. I preordered mine from Onesixthkit so I'm not worried. The concern is WHEN. I preordered mine late so I'm sure I won't get it after summer.
The batch system is not working. Here're my suggestions:
- INART should set a realistic timeline and stick to it. Add 20% buffer to any offical release date. Expectation is important. I will rather knowing I have to wait a year than mislead to getting the product in the same amount of time
- Preorder with full payment should receive the product first. This naturally creates a batch system that IMO is fair
- Alternatively, INART should know the capacity of their factories. This means, once the preorder number exceeds the capacity, any orders should be in the next "batch" with an updated timeline
Folks should separate the product and the whole buying experience. Right now, the buying experience is not great.
PS: Huge fan of the weekly Friday live stream of you and Willfoxication
I cant order Inart figures, still Not available in Germany.
But i love your content!
Thanks so much for watching
Good video. Hope the fanboys don’t come after you with the torches and pitch forks!
I'll be waiting lol
This video truly aged like milk. You judge way too quickly and harshly based off photos with bad angles. After seeing new videos and photos released from Chinese collectors, InArt definitely hit it with this one.
I'm happy you watched it at least!
It’s just April 1st joke
Perhaps... we will know soon enough
I"m happy I haven't been interested in either the Inart or Hot Toys Batman. I enjoyed the movie but not enough to shell out the money for this guy. It always amuses me the dramatic reactionary reactions to almost every release of photos of highly anticipated figures. there is always someone that has their panties in a twist about something. I don't have any of the two Inart figures that have been released but from what I've seen that batch system really sux.
And truthfully, the batch system is the worst of it. Thanks for checking it out.
How much is the Inart The Batman?
Depends on which version and where you get it from
@@KeCoCollects I don’t collect HotToys, Inart or any high end 1/6th scale, i collect 1/12th like Mezco, threezero, Mafex, etc. what is considered bad on a HotToys and Inart figure head sculpt, to me the two head sculpts look really good to me, what should i be looking for, because I don’t see what HotToys and Inart collectors see.
Statistically one of inarts releases will be a fail at some point just didn’t think it would be this quickly.
This is factual
Damn it’s Chicken Little all over again. The headsculpt looks to be the same. How many times do we need this knee jerk reaction before we realize photos usually suck. It’s the in hand photo we need. Also the batch system is fine. Complaint you are given is that you want yours first. I get it but it’s an entitled mentality I can’t support. There is no way to ensure everyone gets their copy at the same time. Not even Hot Toys does that.
The issue is waiting MONTHS with no rhyme or reason as to when they will ship. Even when they communicate they can't stick to their timelines. Consistency is all I'm asking. No excuse for people still waiting for Gandalf
This has to be bad photography, that would explain why most of the face sculps look so different. Inart did not sculpt several different portraits and decided to use them all for a photo up. Their batch system does SUCK and I hope they remp up production but not at the cost of quality.
Photography shenanigans are def at play
Id like to take this comment to remind everyone I was smart enough not to hop on the InArt hype train.... also I cant afford them so...
Fair reasoning ☝️
You should buy Tom Petty's albums! !
@@kylekullin2520 I miss Tom
You’re tripping, the HS looks good to me.
I know some people do like it!
Inarts batch system is no joke its 100% terrible. But their latest photos look good not worse. The sculpt is similar to their latest proto, and the hair just needs to be futz and wet same one we saw from the last events. People are over dramatic and not actually looking at the side by side photos. The "Update" photo as well looks nothing like the last event or final so it's difficult to assume that the final will be close to those photos. Let's not forget the bad angle they took from this as well.
Great points!
This has to be an April Fools bit because no way 80% of the criticism here applies to Hot Toys as well 😂
No company is perfect and we should all demand better for prices we pay.
The Bad Batch! lol
That's actually pretty funny
Sorry Keco, but I have to disagree with them or any company charging the ridiculous prices getting a “pass”. Hope you get yours soon🤞
I'll sit here and enjoy my Hot Toys version for now. Lol
What's the problem? Seems more accurate like film
Perhaps I need another look
It's all your fault, Keko. During that 11/16/23 interview on @WillFoxification you had plenty of chance to ask InArt's John about distribution but you never ever did, did you? 😁
I'll get another chance I'm sure
@@KeCoCollects That was a joke, brother, because you *did* bring up distribution to him at least three times during that stream.
Keco, I understand your dissatisfaction and concern but…..you can’t compare two sculpts based on one low res picture that is shot from a different angle with extreme zoom. As a photographer you probably know better than anybody that lighting and angles plays a pivotal role in how we perceive an object; that is especially true of human faces….Personally, when you showed two pictures side by side I did not spot any glaring differences/imperfections when compared to the prototype. If we want to make a more objective comparison we need to find photos of the actor with a similar angles or wait until InArt posts better pictures.
See, that's my issue. This is a professional company. They have EVERY opportunity to put their best foot forward and just are not. They have a highly anticipated product and they thought those photos were their best? That's problematic. But I agree, we do need to see more first .
@@KeCoCollects Fair. Seems they’ve picked up JND’s habit of taking pictures from orbit.
@@gameshift2020 JND will forever carry that comical crown lol
This is a one and done for me
With inART or my channel? Lol
Inart. To see what all the fuss is about.
Hold up. You threw me off saying you pre ordered the inart version after saying for the longest time you were fine with your hot toys pre order. When did this change? 🤥 I don’t have a horse in that race of which is better. But you flipped on what you’ve been saying for the longest of time on your stance on The Batman figure. Smh. Lol
I preordered about 3-4 months ago after HT refused to ship mine. I thought if I was gonna have HT with the cowel, this would be the perfect one to show the sculpt
Hmmm. So I don't know anything about the algorithm of youtube, but I'm assuming the more you upload, the more relevant you are? So this kind of quick reaction video looks easy enough to do and push out the door so maybe it'll help you get more eyes on your awesome channel. As far as the topic, I'm really hoping it's just a bad picture and it turns out good. I said this on a previous video of Will's. InArt and despite their ridiculous prices, JND, need to succeed to pressure Hot Toys to do better. Neck bulge Spideys, single jointed female Mandalorians, visible jointed figures, hell, even the waist clamp for spidey and superman figures that famage them over time are lazy and should be abandoned. They can't juat rest on their laurels as king of the hill. They have to continue to innovate
Single jointed elbows in 2024 is ludicrous
Do we know of Shin is single jointed? There are some pictures where it looks like she is
@@michaeldelcastillo7211 good question! Sadly I don't know
Karen collects with a premature reaction, lol. I am with you on the influencer batch. No one moves the needle for a business except Justin. He should be the only one getting a figure early. Everyone else should be on a first-come, first-served basis.
I agree. As we've discussed, the "hype" of anyone else getting theirs isn't goin to drive sales
@@KeCoCollects Actually, I would throw in Big Breda as well. He's in China, so it makes sense. But anyone else besides two named aren't going to drive sales.
Ya the batch system is terrible. 11:11 long video and you didn’t say what it is specifically you don’t like about the figure.
I felt I explained that it was a downgrade in quality for the sculpt from preview to production - apologies if that didn't come across clearly
Unfortunately, Inarts release system has been a disaster. I’ve just lost interest and excitement for products that seem endlessly delayed.
Delays are expected, but whatever they are doing is not working
I'll get mine in hand and then judge, only fair... those pics are not the best either
For sure... in hand is only way to know
Imagine being a new company having 3 amazing releases and one that looks questionable but still to be determined and act like Inart can’t sustain quality and is about to crash and burn 😂😂😂 this is the kind of take that makes collectors look silly. I agree however the batch system is garbage
Their quality won't destroy them, their output will
@@KeCoCollects agree with that
How about Superman...
I guess we will see!
I’m gonna laugh when you find out it’s the exact same sculpt.
I hope so!
I just wanna say:
1st , I’m truly hoping the endlessly delayed for changes Aragorn ,doesn’t suffer the same fate of getting inferior at the end ,just like this Batman.
And
2nd PREACH!
I’m soooooo sick and tired by the fake “ transparency “ by InArt and all of their excuses . But I’m more tired by their blindly obedient fans , who not only try gaslight us not to believe our own eyes ,but also would try shut down any valid customer criticism ,when it comes to inaccuracy ,but far more when it comes to delays ,slow shipping and broken batch system. With all of the excuses they bombard us with ,that you quoted . InArt will never get better ,because of blind followers , they will turn like JND.
Great comment. Thanks for sharing!
More content like this bro🔥🔥💪🏼
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This is borderline fearmongering and isn't what I subscribe for.
Even if you believe what you're preaching, why make a video inciting panic among the community based on a photo or two taken from poor angles when we know we're going to see HK collectors and influencers posting video of their figure in the next week or two? The criticism in this video also goes well beyond the photos and once again attacks InArt's ability to deliver a product the literal day after the deadline they set themselves. Not unwarranted, but perhaps unnecessary.
This kind of content does not help anyone and should have been reserved for after we've seen full coverage of the figure.
Fearmongering seems a bit harsh - they are toys at the end of the day. It's just a discussion for the community - nothing nefarious or deeper than that. I'm sorry it didn't hit with you.
"This is borderline fearmongering and isn't what I subscribe for."
No it isn't. It is one guy giving his opinion on photographs which were posted by Inart themselves. It's difficult to tell if you're genuinely fearmongered, or whether you're adopting an offended veneer - because you are not getting the affirmation you seemingly appear so desperate to receive - to guilt Karen Collects into opinion compliance, into towing the line, get him to clap like a hungry seal & suck that corporate schlong.
"Even if you believe what you're preaching, why make a video inciting panic among the community"
Projection. I ask if you honestly believe what you're saying here? If you truly think that collectors will be triggered into a panic simply because of one mans views on a collectable figurine?? First World problems at its finest. A case of the bigotry of low expectations methinks. Speak for yourself, sure, but don't act like we're all part of some kind of hivemind. People are not as fragile as what you make them out to be, well at least most aren't.
"This kind of content does not help anyone and should have been reserved for after we've seen full coverage of the figure."
Again, speak for yourself. I enjoyed it, and so did many others going by the videos positive ratio of 300 likes to 18 dislikes. It is also helpful for me because it is the first time I have seen these production pictures.
Why should it, this reaction, be reserved until we have seen full coverage of the figure? Whatever happened to case-by-case basis. Kar...Keco is reacting to what Inart have put out. What next?! Are we not allowed to air our views on prototypes, work-in-progress changes ... I am certain Keco will make additional videos as & when more media becomes available, and who knows, he may just provide you with the solace you appear so desperate to receive.
I really don't think your over reacting! All things In Art have been pretty sad. Competition is what we all want but sadly it has not even been that!
By the way the In Art Pennywise was trash!!!!
Don't tell Will!
As someone with the Inart Pennywise it is most definitely not trash, and easily blows the hot toys one out of the water.
Nerds crying over their toys lmfao
You know it!