As a reseller of sports cards and collectibles on eBay. I thank you for sharing your concern's about card selling industry on eBay. I have been guilty of what you are sharing. You open my eyes from the customer perspective. In my business for the new year I will adjust my store. Thanks again and Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year🎄☃️🎄
@anthonythomasexperience Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony! I have gotten some pretty good feedback from the dealer perspective from this video, and I'm thankful for yours as well. Just like dealers at a card show, you are absolutely entitled to list your cards for any price you want. I'm going to buy the best example for the cheapest price I can find, just like any transaction. It's a dance. I'm trying to get the card as cheap as I can, and the seller is trying to maximize profits as well! Thanks again.
@@airplayrule I find cards in different locations I try to network with different people. In different industries for example I bid on a storage unit. And I won it had over one million cards in it. 35 % of the cards where graded by PSA.. I still have not gone through every box that is just one source.
@@anthonythomasexperience wow. isn't storage unit auctions risky, n buying around a million, super time consuming? if it helps, ive been considering buyin in semi bulk on boxing cards, LA sports cards, even junk wax n rings n shoes, since this is niche stuff that can be cheap. beside storage, it's basically garage sales n flea markets that u do?
I try to price my cards as fair as possible. I do have 3 categories in my brain: 1. PC Cards, which don’t go for sale 2. Inventory Cards, those cards are strictly inventory and I try to be competitive and offer free shipping 3. “Speculation” Cards, those cards I list but if I can’t get the price I’m looking for I’m fine to hold on to them for the long term. I try to respond to offers as quickly as possible and will be very transparent in the negotiations.
Your approach is very refreshing! I wish more eBay sellers approached things this way. Thanks for watching and commenting. It's interesting to hear about the process from a sellers perspective. I subbed to your channel.
You will be happy those sellers that are trying to increase the value of a limited number card…..when you own one and the market shrinks by 1. Some of the prices you mentioned are indeed ridiculous but continuing to pass around cards at “comp” do nothing but decrease the value of the card because if they stay the same while the value of a dollar decreases…..well you already know. Good video though man, as a seller (and buyer of good deals for my PC) I like to hear the way you look at it, you definitely are showing patience and will be rewarded for it in the end.
@Reffitt I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm still hunting for one! I hope to pick one up in the next month or two. I hope you're right, but really, it's just a card that I have to have in my collection as a Griffey guy! Thanks again!
Maybe some sellers have a hard time accepting the fact they over-paid for cards during the pandemic and they are waiting for the prices or values to come back???
Great point! I've wondered about that myself. I think that could definitely have something to do with it for some of them. Thanks for watching and commenting, David!
That can be part of it. But I think a lot of buyers don't understand that sellers are usually only making thin profits on most of their cards. buyers don't take into account that the seller has to pay ebay a selling fee, shipping supplies like printer ink and paper, tape, bubble mailers, and envelopes. As a seller we usually get a discount because we buy in bulk. So it can be frustrating for us when a buyer comes along asking for a discount when they're only buying 1 card. It's like if you walked into Macy's and said "I know you're asking $80 for this jacket, but I only want to pay what you paid for it." They're gonna say "No, if you want it for that price then you have to buy 500 of them from the distributor."
Merry Christmas Bill. Had to go back and watch this video again and comment: I'm going through the same scenario with a card; checked comps vs selling, big difference and I made an offer anyway, waiting on seller response, keep you posted.
Hey Billy, Merry Christmas! Yeah, it does get frustrating sometimes when sellers won’t budge on fair offers, but that’s the beauty of free markets. Sellers can ask whatever they want and buyers can click past and move onto the next. Take care man.
Thanks for the video! I guess I don’t buy often enough on eBay to notice inventory being down. But, eBay is my go to as far as where I buy cards online. I usually stick to auctions and know immediately where my tap out is. Usually, my tap out price is low because that’s where my budget is. But sometimes I get lucky. I do use the BIN option on my Gary Carter’s and Dale Murphy’s because they typically don’t sell for much and their prices don’t fluctuate. The only other online option I’ve used (besides Facebook groups) is COMC. I have not used it much lately though because of turnaround time and shipping costs. Great video and thank you!
I'll tell you why I avoid it. The USPS is a nightmare. I bought through ebay for 21 years and this is the worst it has ever been in terms of mail. I would rather go to a local show abd buy there. And ebay did not help when they decided to push the ultra cheap shipping. A card should never be shipped in a standard white letter envelope.
I agree with you 100 percent about the mail. It's a mess! Packages going in circles! I definitely agree with you about the white envelope also! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi Billy. I agree with you on many fronts. Ebay is the easiest platform for me to use, as there are not many shows around here that have what I am interested in. The other factor for me is the increased pricing for shipping, coming to Canada. I haven`t purchased very much from ebay the past year. Most of my purchases have been through the bigger shows (Strongsville, National, Expo). Good luck on eventually getting the Griffey card, at a price that works for you. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays my friend, talk soon pal.
Much appreciated, Stephen! International shipping has gotten pretty crazy! I'll find one. I just have to be patient! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. Thanks, my friend!
I agree with your take on eBay right now. I don’t mind waiting for an auction to end, but there are way more overpriced Buy it Now cards that aren’t accepting offers. I’ve occasionally had luck messaging the seller for listings that don’t accept offers and making an offer via message if their Buy It Now price is reasonable, but it’s not as easy as if the listing is accepting Offers. They will just send an offer at the price we negotiated so the buying process is the same though.
@kfordham281 Thanks for watching and commenting! I have reached out to sellers before if they don't have make an offer on the listing. No luck yet! There are so many cards that are way overpriced with no make offer! Thanks again!
Great video Billy! I use Ebay, shows and LCS's. Not to the point where I trust Facebook and other social media sites. I registered my Sales Tax license for Minnesota with Ebay and don't pay taxes on purchases. We need that Sales Tax permit for our local Twin Cities Sports Collectors Club shows. I'm at the point, where I'll usually wait until I find an item for my price. Occasionally I overpay, but as long as I get an item I like, I'm ok with it.
@stuke1976 That's Scott. I appreciate you watching and commenting. I've heard that good deals can be found in Facebook groups, but I haven't made that plunge. With certain cards, I can be fairly patient, but with others, once I decide I want it, I want it right now!🤣🤣 Thanks again, my friend.
Hey Bill! Thanks again for the shout out in the video. I still spend an unhealthy amount of time searching eBay for deals and I’m still finding them. I think eBay is still king, because of its reach and ease of use. It can be frustrating dealing with people that think their cards are worth way more than comps, but I still find people who are willing to deal. Patience is not my virtue either and I think that’s why I look at a broad spectrum of cards to find a good deal. Rather than getting overly focused on one card and overpaying. Great topic for a collaboration or a live, if you ask me. Merry Christmas!
Thanks, Joe! You are the eBay deal master! I thought about asking you for a collaboration for this video! As you can tell, I'm still having difficulty with streamyard!🤣🤣
For me it is E-Bay, LCS and shows in that order. Lately I have been looking for buy it now with best offer options, finding that some sellers are willing to deal a bit on those cards!
Hey Steve, thanks for watching and commenting. For me, it's eBay followed by shows. I usually go that same route on eBay. I target listings that allow offers and throw one out. If it doesn't get auto rejected, I wait for it to be rejected, accepted, or countered. Then, depending on the circumstances, it's another offer sent. It seems like fewer are willing to negotiate. That's where the real frustration comes from for me.
I bet that one is really tough on eBay because I'm sure there is never more than a handful listed at any given time! That is an awesome card. Happy hunting! Thanks for watching and commenting, Franco!
I think you are on to something regarding eBay! it does seem cards are getting harder to find and the prices some Sellers are asking border on absurd. Good luck with your SGC submission! Merry Christmas! Hope you have a great collecting year in 2025!
Bill! Glad you have more free time, buddy. Yeah, eBay is still my go to but I also have a ton of shows in my area. I hope you got the Griffey! Mine is currently being graded and I’m nervous about it. Hopefully, it grades well. Merry Christmas to you and your family, my friend!
Awesome, Rob! I can't wait to see yours! I am yet to grab one, but I will when the right one comes along. I did get an amazing card that I can't wait to get in hand! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
That Griffey Elite was my favorite card of his, over his 89 UD, I have 3 Reggie rookies, none graded but nice shape, I'm still shocked about Rickey passing, his birthday is Christmas, sucks to say the least
It's an awesome card, for sure! It's definitely printed less than his upper deck rookie! 🤣🤣 Wow! 3 Jackson's, that's awesome. Rickey's passing was definitely a shock! He's younger than my mom and still looked like a physical specimen! Very sad. Thanks again, as always, my friend. Merry Christmas!
I feel your pain about chasing those Elite cards. Opened a few cases worth of boxes over the years and found none. Visited a thrift shop and they had the full set mixed into a 5k count box of everything for 10¢ each. Wild how these things just pop up in random places. eBay sellers are still in 2021. Cards they would have in $1 boxes at shows or in shops are $9 or more and they won’t accept offers. I hate over paying like that.
Wow, that's insane! I hope you bought them! That's a heck of a find! I think a lot of them do still think it's 2021, and everything is going up! I'm with you. I don't overpay either unless it's justified by eye appeal.
This takes incredible patience, but I find that local card shows are one of the best places to snag cards at great value (no tax or shipping). But I only attend about two per year, so this makes waiting almost impossible and I end up buying a lot on eBay.
I agree! I attend as many local shows as I can and usually get the best deals there. It can be difficult at times to find a specific card that I'm looking for at shows, though. That's the only drawback I can think of, though. I definitely prefer buying cards at shows whenever possible. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think some sellers with lots of listing's have them priced high because they are speculating that the cards value may go up for some reason or other. They can't completely stay current on prices for hundreds of listing's, so the price them at what they think maybe future prices for said card. I mean Rickey Henderson just passed and a ton of his cards sold immediately following the news, so if you were priced at comps you probably left money on the table for that short spike in demand. I'm not saying it's justified but I do think some sellers do this.
@mangobango6970 Thanks for watching and commenting. I think you're onto something with some sellers. But why have a card listed for twice its value with no "or best offer?" A 200 dollar card is going to take a long time to become a 400 dollar card under normal circumstances. Even with the Henderson scenario you spoke about, his cards aren't going to double from his passing. I'm just spitballing here. I get it that it's not you and you don't have all the answers. No one does, but a lot of it just doesn't make sense to me. Thanks again for the comment!
@billyballgamesportscards another thought about the best offer thing is...I've listed without a best offer before, because I know some people will reach out in ebay messages asking for my best price (which drives me crazy) but if they are interested i can lower the bin that will require them to pay immediately unlike if I accept an offer (or send them an offer) then they have 4 days to decide if they are going to pay for it. Plus even half the time I lower the bin for a negotiated price and they don't end up purchasing it anyway, so it just wasted my time.
I don't like wasting my time with best offers just to have them not pay, and then I have to wait 4 more days before I can relist it. Both sellers and buyers on ebay can be frustrating, so I try to minimize my own frustration.
@mangobango6970 I get that completely. There are definitely crappy buyers out there, also. I don't see things from the seller's perspective though, so that's not something I have ever taken into account. I just know I buy I pay. Rinse and repeat!
I understand your frustration. I've been looking for a '58 Vada Pinson rookie for a few months and all the listing are about double the VCP average. I think Ebay is still the king but I did recently buy a big card from Fanatics Collect.
@Peacemakercards Thanks for watching and commenting, Dave! I love the Pinson rookie. It's a beautiful card and definitely on my list of cards to pick up. I will have to check out Fanatics Collect. Good luck with your Pinson hunt!
I do think that if you developed some card tactics and patience using it.. You can score a few big hits on a budget! A very useful tool for people like us. Will you miss a few? Yes! That makes you getting a nice card at a sweetheart price even tastier!
@royakard8536 I did manage to score an awesome card! Just none of the ones I talked about. It should be here Friday, and I'm super excited! Stay tuned!
On eBay, patience is everything. I always get a card listed at $500 buy it now for half or even less than that on auction most of the time. But it does matter what you collect. I’m speaking from modern football and basketball.
Wow! That's pretty awesome! I'd be over the moon if I got something that cheap. I collect mostly vintage but also some modern and even some ultramodern. Mostly baseball. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I picked up an SGC 8.5 on that 1992 Donruss Elite Griffey last year for $116.61 all-in. It was an auction listing and it's one where they have it listed on the slab as "1991 Leaf" due to the copyright info on the back of the card. I'm not sure if I was able to get it that cheap due to the fact it didn't say "1992 Donruss Elite" or not but that's a sneaky way to possibly search for that card on E-Bay.
eBay is still has the most available and is a top go to. Just like at shows, some sellers have ridiculously high prices. To me I have a long list of things I’d like so if what one thing I want isn’t available at a reasonable price, I can just get something else. But most of the cards I buy and sell I do in Facebook groups. Definitely hear you with the high BIN prices. It is annoying!
Thanks for the input, Mark! I'm in some of the Facebook groups but haven't bought anything off there! I know some good deals can be had that way for sure! Thank you again, my friend, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Gave a video like. For me, eBay is still king. You will always have people putting cards on there that are hoping to get a much higher price then recent comps. Comps can be tricky too though. If someone is looking to compare something that is listed as a buy it now or best offer to a sale of an auction, they will likely be disappointed more than they are pleased. The point of an auction is to try and get a great deal on something you want that you wouldn't ordinarily be able to get. You could also have someone list something as buy it now that doesn't really deal in cards and sell something way cheaper than it would otherwise go for. That doesn't mean sales following that one should be compared to that sale. Rather, that sale was an outlier. So much more could be said, don't want to post a novel on comps.
Much appreciated, Brian! You're right comps can be tricky for sure. But if a card sells fairly regularly, I think VCP average price will give you pretty good comps. I'll pay above comps depending on eye appeal, but a card worth 288 bucks according to VCP average price being listed for above 600 bucks is insane! Thanks for watching and commenting, my friend!
@@billyballgamesportscards I guess I'm just sort of use to it on higher demand cards. I just have to be extra patient and wait for an auction or something. When you are dealing with cards like that, you might be coming up against "investors" who are waiting to sell and maximize their profits. You also will likely have collectors who value their card higher than what they currently go for. I don't have VCP. Is there a way to filter all recent sales of the card and get the average of the ones that sold via buy it now and best offer and exclude the auctions? I wonder if that would change the price difference a bit since there is such a substantial difference in price from what they were just recently selling for.
@Hodges1455 There isn't a way I know of that you can separate the average prices by auction or buy it now, but when you scroll through recent sales it shows if it was buy it now or auction. It also shows what auction house it came from, Heritage, eBay, etc.
@@billyballgamesportscards That's cool. At least that allows you to check the last three non-auction sales and be able to compare those with what you are looking to make an offer on.
I still think the volume and usability of eBay makes it the best buying platform available. I collect for a PC and buy to flip, and I make purchases for both all the time on eBay. For flipping, I'm almost always bidding on $.99 starting bid auctions. I aim to get them at 75-80% what I think I can sell them for, and typically win around 5-6% of what I bid on. Ideally I can sell them on another platform and avoid the eBay fees, but I do end up listing most of it on eBay using the BIN/OBO option with a BIN slightly above comps, and usually below any other listing on eBay for the same card in the same grade. If someone makes a reasonable offer I will usually meet them in the middle and they usually accept. I'm not making any huge profits, but it's fun to own the cards briefly and make a small profit. That said, I think eBay is losing some of its market share. I'm certainly exploring other sources lately, with some success. Thanks for your insight! Brad
@ChiSoxCardboard Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Brad. I agree that eBay is still the top platform, but maybe losing market share to some of the other platforms. I think auctions are definitely the way to go, but I am finding them to be more and more difficult to find for the card I'm hunting for at the time. What's the name of your eBay store? Thanks again for watching and commenting!
eBay is still the biggest sports card marketplace in the world and it's open 24/7. As someone with an eBay store with over 3,800 listings, anything I list over $1.99 is listed with Or Best Offer. I get a lot of offers at 50% of list price no matter what price I list it at (sometimes as low as 30%), so I list it where I can make a good profit, but competitively and willing to negotiate. I think auctions bring far less then what you can get if you price it out yourself.
I appreciate you watching and commenting! What's your eBay store name, and I'll check it out? People offering 30% for a card that's priced fairly is absolutely absurd, IMO. Even 50% percent is crazy unless the card is just way overpriced. But I'm sure you see some interesting things with a store that big! Thanks again.
I buy mostly on eBay. I hate paying more for shipping and taxes. Not sure if there are more or less cards now than there were 2 or 3 years ago. Cheers. Merry Christmas.
I'm the same way. Once I think of a card I want, then I want to buy it asap.... I just bought a Johnny Unitas 1958 Topps in a SGC 2.5 for the same amount that a SGC 5 sold for recently... i dont know if they got a great deal or i got a bad one but i didn't have the patience to wait days or months for another to be listed in the price range I was wanting to spend, so I just took the best one available at a price I could afford
Thanks for watching and commenting, Rick! That's an awesome card! I might have done the same thing if I was truly locked in on that card. I'd probably pay up to get the right one as well.
In my opinion on that Griffey card the prices are going to be in a wide range. It's somewhat rare, especially for that era and its a very popular player and a somewhat popular set. You even mentioned that it was almost impossible to find at shows. The buyer probably had to pay close to comps, so if I was lucky enough to have one like that to sell I would ask over comps. Now the Bench card, yeah you aren't getting over comps.
Thanks for watching and commenting, John! You make a great point. Iconic card of an iconic player absolutely. I would be willing to pay up for one but not 100 bucks above comps for that card. I'd even pay up a bit for a nicely centered Bench, but some of these prices are crazy! Thanks again, and Merry Christmas!
@@billyballgamesportscards Merry Christmas! BTW another reason for less auctions is some states have passed laws requiring people that do an X amount of volume to get an auctioneer license, which can be quite expensive. Ebay has also been forced to charge sales tax, they're a victim of their own success.
Buyers always want the discounted bulk price, but without buying bulk. My suggestion is that if you're in a stalemate with a seller, go into their ebay store and find a few other things you like and put together a little package. Then message the seller and say something like "Hey, i'm interested in these 5 cards you're selling. You're asking $60 total. Would you take $45? He'll come back at $55, then you meet at $50. A lot of times when you bundle like that and you spread the money out you end up getting the card that you really liked for even less than what you were hoping for.
That's interesting, for sure. It works the same way at card shows. My buddy's Chris and Tom are bundling machines at shows. I don't usually buy a big stack of cards, though, at this point. When I buy, I usually buy 1 or 2 bigger cards because I have so many big holes in my collection to fill! Thanks again!
As a seller on ebay I might be able to offer a different perspective. Most sellers only do it as a part time hobby. Most of us have full time jobs that pay our bills, so were not under pressure to sell cards quickly. I personally don't mind sitting on a card for a few years if I have to just to get a price I'm happy with. Over the last couple of years I've been loading up on future hall of fame'rs like Von Miller and Rob Gronkowski and I expect them to just be sitting on my ebay store for a few years until they're inducted and people are willing to pay a little more for them. So I'm rejecting offers for $40 because I know in a few years I'll be able to get $70 for them.
@Sandman60077 Thanks for watching and commenting from a dealer's perspective. So, do you have them listed now, hoping someone will go ahead and pay what you want? Why list them now and let them stay up on eBay? I'm genuinely curious about it. Thanks again.
@@billyballgamesportscards Yup, I have them listed now. For example I have a nice Von Miller card serial numbered out of /25 in a PSA 10, I've had a few people send me what I consider low offers that I've declined because I know once he retires there will be a price spike in his cards, then again when he enters the HOF there will be another price spike. I have it listed now because in the meantime a nostalgia collector might come along and buy it at full asking price, because maybe Von Miller was his favorite player and they have fond memories of him winning the Super Bowl MVP with the Broncos.
@@billyballgamesportscardssomeone eventually does pay what I want Been selling on EBay for 4 years and the majority of my inventory is long term holds, so I don’t mind rejecting offers from resellers and I honestly don’t mind them sitting another 5-10 years maybe even more
Agreed, sellers that ask redickulas prices need to be stopped. It's 100% ebay's fault. They need to follow Topps example and charge a large fee for cards that exceed comps.
@MasterShake300 It is very frustrating at times. I think they should be able to ask what they want for their card. I'm not going to pay their insane prices! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey Billy! Good question. I think eBay is still viable. But prices have been up. Maybe it’s a seasonal thing? Hoping our wives will get on and overpay for that card we want? I just got a ‘61 Topps Pinson with a lower than list price by reaching to the Seller. They did not have a best offer tab on the card. So maybe try that? Back to pricing. Seems like any card with Yogi Berra on it has become super expensive. Steep increases.
E-Bay and Comc are my top 2 when it comes to buying online. E-Bay for graded and comc for my cheaper cards. Some sellers have make on offer on their page and will not budge one cent. That irks me the most. Lol. Whatever. If they want it to sit months on in and not move the card that is on them. I have been watching some cards for years and they could have a sell, but they will not budge a dollar. Enjoyed and hope you feel better.
Much appreciated, Steve! Yes! If you aren't going to budget one cent, why even make an offer enabled on the listing? That is the most frustrating for me as well. Thanks as always for watching and commenting. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I’ve bought a couple from COMC but ONLY when I can find the card ANYWHERE else. Think they are typically MUCH higher than market and a pain to deal with. They are my LAST RESORT.
@harambeslifemattered2970 I've never bought a card from them. I agree anytime I've looked, they are way overpriced and don't have nearly the cards eBay does.
@@billyballgamesportscards yea. Just depends on what you are looking for really. If you are looking for standard base cards and buying in bulk I personally like comc with the flat rate shipping. Graded cards I would rarely mess with on comc
Hey Billy! Listening to your plight, I have a lot of sympathy for you. I was in the same place as you with that Griffey 92 Elite about a year and a half ago. I did a lot of research and comping and waited WAY longer than I would have thought until the right one (BGS 9) came along at the right price. I have some thoughts in general and also about this specific card. Im feeling a LONG comment coming on… maybe I should just make a video response! 😂 In the case of this specific card, I think VCP is wrong. I have no clue about how they arrive at their $288 for a PSA 9. That card sits around $350-$400 all day, (or at least it did when I was hunting for it). Now, because I collect cards, not plastic, and I refuse to pay the PSA premium for a “mint” card, I decided that I was going to specifically target either a BGS 9 or an SGC 9, which both comped right around $250. The red PSA label wasn’t (and still isn’t) worth the extra $100 tax to me. So, if you’re specifically targeting a PSA slab, you may need to prepare to drop some more coin than what VCP says, because they’re wrong. This case study is representative of a few larger issues though: “PSA” slab premiums vs other companies’ holders, comps having dubious accuracy, and the one that’s tickling my brain as I write this - the “No man’s land” of card prices / values. There’s a phenomenon I’ve noticed, which you’ve described perfectly, where a card typically sells for $X, but all the BIN listings have it at $2X - $3X. Only the auctions finish close to $X when they come up, but they don’t come up too often for the specific card you’re targeting. So it’s a game of chicken: either you get impatient and just pay the inflated price, or nobody does, and the card just sits there for months or years without selling. When there aren’t a lot of a specific card available (maybe it’s the only one currently listed on eBay), sellers can sometimes get away with holding a card ransom like this. While it’s not unethical, it’s certainly annoying as a potential buyer to come across a museum table at a card show, where everything is priced at 2X comps. This “No man’s land” that fall between $X and $2X is a weird territory, where in theory, sellers should be happy to sell a card at some level around or even reasonably above auction comps. If a card sells for $100 at auction all day and a seller has it listed at $200, I don’t think an offer of $100 is an unreasonable one to throw out there. He may counter with $130 or something, but at least you’re both playing in the same ballpark. These clowns who list it for $300 though with no offers allowed, they’re probably lost causes. Honestly, the answer to this “No man’s land” probably looks a lot like patience. Well, that or showing completed sales to the seller to gently show them how out of touch with reality they are 😂 Great video, Billy! Sorry for the novel! 😅
@HighPopProfessor Hey Brian, I really appreciate it. I think you are exactly right. Also, I would much rather have an SGC 9 to save almost 100 bucks. The really crazy thing that I forgot to mention in the video was a few days before my hobby allowance dropped into my account a seller made me an offer on an SGC 9.5 for around 400 (I don't remember the exact amount). Of course, someone scooped it up very quickly, and I wanted to kick myself! Sellers holding cards for ransom, as you mentioned, may be a cause of eBay's ever increasing seller fees as well! Thanks again for watching and commenting, my friend!
I appreciate that. I'll get one at some point. I just have to be patient. The one for 195 is ungraded. That's way too risky for me!🤣🤣 Thanks for watching and commenting.
Let me ask the peanut 🥜 gallery here, did the values of baseball cards become worthless at some point between 2005-2017? I'm looking at the auction sales of PCWW back to 2017 and some big cards were practically given away. What happened?
eBay has major problems with their search right now and it has to do with the implementation of AI. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot more cards listed on eBay than you think, but they just aren't coming up in the search results right now
Ebay is my main source for cards and to be successful patience is the main ingredient. I never bid on a card until the last hours in case I can obtain it sooner and at a better price. Use of the ebay search engine gives me a daily list to view. It is satisfying to finally obtain the rare SP card at the right price after a couple years. I never pay more than Beckett almanac high book price and that includes tax and shipping. For me baseball card collecting is a lifetime project so what's the hurry?
Like #23! I definitely feel your pain, so frustrating! Most sellers on ebay do over price and a large number of them that do have a best offer option after getting a fair offer still dismiss it or come back with a counter offer of little or no difference than their asking price. I just move on and wait, as impatient as I can be at times. I have limited funds for my hobby having a family as most people do. I only pay over when the eye appeal is immaculate because more times than not, greed is the reason. I have had cards on my watch list for years and you send reasonable offers and they still will not accept the offer. Plenty of cards on eBay that are way over book and that has helped me become picky and a little more patient. Not much more, just a little....lol Anyways, I have a tendency to ramble as well 😂😂 Enjoyed the watch and can relate, thanks for sharing 👍👍Until next time, wishing you an awesome day and you and your family a very happy Holiday Billy ✌out
Much appreciated, Andy! It sounds like we've had very similar experiences on eBay, unfortunately!🤣🤣 It's why I still don't have a McCovey rookie. I can never get together with a seller on price when I find one with nice eye appeal and I'm offering about comps usually. Just not 40-50 percent above! Thanks again. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I've been 100% eBay. But I'm looking at other venues to sell. I have tried others and have had zero sales elsewhere. I just don't appreciate the fees eBay takes from us. It's kind of misleading. But my greatest sales are on eBay
@billyballgamesportscards I haven't gone down the COMC rabbit hole. I've tried Buysportscards and slab stocks with little success.y inventory isn't what it used to be. I've been ok paying bills first before I really get into buying again. I just pick up cards for me right now. No big cards
@brickbreaker8148 You might be right in that! I just said it seemed like there were less of the types of cards I was looking to buy at auction. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for watching and commenting! I think that's one of the biggest reasons eBay is number one. It had so many eyes on it. Something may come along that can give it a run for its money eventually, but it's going to take a while for that to happen, I think. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Time is your best friend. At least it is mine. If a seller won't budge on price, I'll let my money sit in my high-yield savings acct and earn me a bit of interest until a price meets my goal.
@@billyballgamesportscardssince eBay will take directly out of your bank account now, I opened an online savings account for my hobby money. That way I earn about 5%. When I buy something it comes out of my main checking account and I just transfer that from my hobby account. So if a seller doesn’t budge on price that money just sits earnings interest.
Thanks for watching and commenting, John! I looked on eBay at Brooks. It's definitely absurd! 60 and 70 bucks for ungraded cards from the 60s. You could buy them in 6s and 7s for that much!
A lot of times sellers will consider half-off. Graig pulls off shocking buys with what he actually refers to as "lowball offers". Sometimes it's just a card a person would sell ONLY if it was a price they can't refuse. (But why list it?) Or they are just that patient in certain cases. Sellers can also put a minimum offer amount, which automatically declines yours even at .01 below. It is frustrating though. I'm negotiating on a card right now. As far as prices go, many times we have to create a new floor so to speak on cards gaining exposure/popularity. Honestly channels like yours Dylan's and Graig's have increased the popularity of centering and the eye appeal factor - especially on iconic/important cards and future hall of famers. People are taking your advice and it literally affects prices, creating a new price point. My beef with eBay is their butt-buddy relationship with the IRS and their constantly overstepping fees. The sales tax addition in 2019 ruined eBay for many people. It was an automatic go-to for singles until then for me. Face it buddy, you guys are affecting the hobby!
Thanks, Ben! You make a lot of good points in your response, especially with the tax that kicked in in 2019, and I had forgotten about that. I'm sure that has a big impact! I think maybe you give me too much credit for being an "influencer" when it comes to eye appeal, though! 🤣🤣 But, I definitely appreciate the compliment!
@@billyballgamesportscards Haha! Well at the very least you influence great vibes, positive attitude, and hobby wisdom my friend! BUT, don't sell yourself short buddy, you guys really do make a difference. Think about how obliviously blind everyone was 2019-2022-ish when there was nothing but bad advice everywhere and FOMO was massive. It took real people, like yourself, making REAL content with realistic outlooks and wise advice to cause a correction. The predators were out and ferociously devouring anyone they could. The hobby is still recovering some but you guys helped reincorporate common sense. I just watched the big channels in horror watching them pump things history has proven cannot hold value. Then the blue-collar guys started coming up. It's bigger than you all understand - which is part of the reason I decided to start commenting after being on TH-cam since 2007. (Had another account until mid-2019) It wasn't fun watching people get crushed by these glossy channel's bad advice and overhyping of everything current. It's a big deal because you guys helped make it fun - and I'm grateful!
@blixcards I really appreciate that Ben. It really means a lot to me that someone would consider me a positive influence in the hobby and someone who has wisdom in the hobby. Thanks, my friend! I watched a lot of those types of channels myself as I was wondering in any of the modern overproduced, over hyped, manufactured scarcity stuff would hold any long-term value. It had a huge impact on how I collect today.
Good morning on this 2024 Christmas Eve. Let me address the 7 Day and 10 day auction perspective from being a seller on eBay. As a seller if the card is more valuable I want to do a 10 day auction. Because there is possible that I get more eyes 👀. And hopefully more money. A lesser value card I do 7 Day auction's. If I know the price I want I just do buy it now.
@anthonythomasexperience Thanks again, Anthony! I love auctions! Selfishly, I wish I could find them more often for the types of cards I'm looking for! Conveniently always ending within a day or 2 of when I want to buy and always with me winning!😂😂
eBay buy it now is just people putting up cards at random prices. I usually just message the seller before making an offer asking how serious they are about actually selling it. I have bought cards were people hade gone from 800$ to 175$. It’s all nonsense
Wow, that's crazy Bob! Even with sellers with high feedback? I could understand if it was sellers with little to no feedback, but that's a drastic change in price! Thanks, I may have to keep that in the back of my mind moving forward.
Well it’s interesting. I collect 2012 prizm basketball and football. Many of these cards are very low pop. So people don’t have many comps to work with. The funny thing is many of these auctions of these cards go for more then some of the buy it now’s. But for the most part if a card is way over comps just contact the seller before making an offers and just blatantly ask them what’s a realistic price. The seller knows the buy it now price isn’t realistic. Especially if it’s been sitting there for 6 months. The auto decline feature on eBay doesn’t even notify the seller you made an offer. So for example I have a card listed for 500 with the lowest offer to not get rejected at 300. If someone offers 295 I wouldn’t even know. But I would take 300 most likely. So just ask
@brianc7719 Luckily, I've never had to deal with their customer service. They definitely have their warts, but they are the best online platform. I'd rather buy cards at shows, but it doesn't always work that way. I appreciate you watching and commenting, Brian!
eBay is feebay you know you talked a lot about the buyer getting a great card without paying over comp but you didn’t think about or talk about how the sellers are getting hit with all the fees causing the sellers to have to ask over what the market will support at a LCS or show
@BattsOtt I get that, but I'm not a seller, so I don't see it from that perspective. I get that and spoke about being willing to pay above comps for the right card. I don't have a problem with sellers making money and of course it's a dance. I want the card as cheaply as I can get it. They want to make the most money they possibly can. Asking 629.99 for a 288 dollar card is pretty extreme, though, in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ yeah in that case I agree they are being ridiculous but unfortunately many honest sellers will say have an auto worth 300 but by the time eBay gets done with charging them fees in the shipping and sales and all they end up paying close to $100 of the value of the card to eBay so they have to sell for e but over like 1.5 times what the cards worth to get close to book in their pocket and still get a little under book value in return when the cards worth to sells that’s how bad eBay has gotten in fact because of it I sell less online now than ever but I use market place and sports card groups to move my cards for sale and I use CollX now so the buyer can get a decent price as im not paying a ton to feebay
No! eBay is king. There is not another platform that has the number of eyes as eBay. All the other platforms, like WhatNot/Drip/Alt are all minor players. eBay does not have to advertise. The others do.
Ebay could save some overhead money by penalizing sellers who list cards at auctions with outrageous starting prices. I see the same Cam Reddish cards not moving at auction every week bc of high starting price. How much of that cost is passed on to sellers bc of that? How many auction listings per week does ebay offer that do not get 1 bid? Prices are down for 2 major reasons. Oversupply and less money available to many collectors bc of the rise of everything prices since 2020. Let's pray/wish/hope for improvement in our economy so card prices will reclaim their past glory and I can get out of this money pit😂
@judeniles5111 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Jude. What you say makes sense. Sellers complain about the fees eBay charges. EBay's fees might be higher because of all the cards that stay listed indefinitely with no movement, causing more overhead on eBay's behalf, causing them to raise fees. The perverbial snake eating its tail. Very interesting! Thanks again!
that is a really interesting take. what "overhead" would they save on? they would penalize people selling on their platform when they stand to make more money when and if an item sells. 🤔 not too likely to happen. 😛
@sisterraysbrother All those dead listings that stay on eBay for months and even years in some cases take up overhead space. Whether it's cloud storage, system maintenance, or listing maintenance. Even though they aren't a physical store, they still have overhead. They make money when a card sells, and it costs them money to maintain listings that just set on the platform. If there were fewer dead listings, there would be less overhead, and maybe fees wouldn't continually increase. Just my thoughts. I have never sold anything on eBay. It costs money to run and maintain the world's largest hobby museum.
@@billyballgamesportscards maybe somebody who works in IT can elaborate but that cost is actually miniscule. I sent a chat to my buddy who would know better thinking he could articulate on the matter.. he's prob busy but he said, "the cost would amount to a rounding error."
As a reseller of sports cards and collectibles on eBay. I thank you for sharing your concern's about card selling industry on eBay. I have been guilty of what you are sharing. You open my eyes from the customer perspective. In my business for the new year I will adjust my store. Thanks again and Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year🎄☃️🎄
@anthonythomasexperience Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony! I have gotten some pretty good feedback from the dealer perspective from this video, and I'm thankful for yours as well. Just like dealers at a card show, you are absolutely entitled to list your cards for any price you want. I'm going to buy the best example for the cheapest price I can find, just like any transaction. It's a dance. I'm trying to get the card as cheap as I can, and the seller is trying to maximize profits as well! Thanks again.
where do u get the products cheap enough to cover fees n still profit? what's your profit margin average?
@@anthonythomasexperience Merry Christmas to you and your as well!
@@airplayrule I find cards in different locations I try to network with different people. In different industries for example I bid on a storage unit. And I won it had over one million cards in it. 35 % of the cards where graded by PSA.. I still have not gone through every box that is just one source.
@@anthonythomasexperience wow. isn't storage unit auctions risky, n buying around a million, super time consuming? if it helps, ive been considering buyin in semi bulk on boxing cards, LA sports cards, even junk wax n rings n shoes, since this is niche stuff that can be cheap.
beside storage, it's basically garage sales n flea markets that u do?
I try to price my cards as fair as possible. I do have 3 categories in my brain:
1. PC Cards, which don’t go for sale
2. Inventory Cards, those cards are strictly inventory and I try to be competitive and offer free shipping
3. “Speculation” Cards, those cards I list but if I can’t get the price I’m looking for I’m fine to hold on to them for the long term.
I try to respond to offers as quickly as possible and will be very transparent in the negotiations.
Your approach is very refreshing! I wish more eBay sellers approached things this way. Thanks for watching and commenting. It's interesting to hear about the process from a sellers perspective. I subbed to your channel.
@ I appreciate the sub!!
I follow that same line. Makes it easy.
You will be happy those sellers that are trying to increase the value of a limited number card…..when you own one and the market shrinks by 1. Some of the prices you mentioned are indeed ridiculous but continuing to pass around cards at “comp” do nothing but decrease the value of the card because if they stay the same while the value of a dollar decreases…..well you already know. Good video though man, as a seller (and buyer of good deals for my PC) I like to hear the way you look at it, you definitely are showing patience and will be rewarded for it in the end.
@Reffitt I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm still hunting for one! I hope to pick one up in the next month or two. I hope you're right, but really, it's just a card that I have to have in my collection as a Griffey guy! Thanks again!
Maybe some sellers have a hard time accepting the fact they over-paid for cards during the pandemic and they are waiting for the prices or values to come back???
Great point! I've wondered about that myself. I think that could definitely have something to do with it for some of them. Thanks for watching and commenting, David!
That can be part of it. But I think a lot of buyers don't understand that sellers are usually only making thin profits on most of their cards. buyers don't take into account that the seller has to pay ebay a selling fee, shipping supplies like printer ink and paper, tape, bubble mailers, and envelopes.
As a seller we usually get a discount because we buy in bulk. So it can be frustrating for us when a buyer comes along asking for a discount when they're only buying 1 card. It's like if you walked into Macy's and said "I know you're asking $80 for this jacket, but I only want to pay what you paid for it." They're gonna say "No, if you want it for that price then you have to buy 500 of them from the distributor."
Or maybe ALOT of sellers auctions are being BLOCKED on purpose while "they" sit back and LIE about it. 😊
Man i feel you on the auction thing. I’ve out in buds way over value to get the one I wanted and somehow still lose
@TheDream10p I've definitely lost my fair share of auctions!
Merry Christmas Bill. Had to go back and watch this video again and comment: I'm going through the same scenario with a card; checked comps vs selling, big difference and I made an offer anyway, waiting on seller response, keep you posted.
@doug_sports_collector Merry Christmas Doug! Good luck, my friend!
Hey Billy, Merry Christmas! Yeah, it does get frustrating sometimes when sellers won’t budge on fair offers, but that’s the beauty of free markets. Sellers can ask whatever they want and buyers can click past and move onto the next. Take care man.
Very true, Mike! Great point. I did find an amazing card that I can't wait to get my hands on! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Thanks for the video! I guess I don’t buy often enough on eBay to notice inventory being down. But, eBay is my go to as far as where I buy cards online. I usually stick to auctions and know immediately where my tap out is. Usually, my tap out price is low because that’s where my budget is. But sometimes I get lucky. I do use the BIN option on my Gary Carter’s and Dale Murphy’s because they typically don’t sell for much and their prices don’t fluctuate.
The only other online option I’ve used (besides Facebook groups) is COMC. I have not used it much lately though because of turnaround time and shipping costs.
Great video and thank you!
Thanks for watching and commenting, Jay! I saw you did a video! I'll sub and watch and comment. Thanks again for reaching out!
@ thanks Billy! That means a lot!
I'll tell you why I avoid it. The USPS is a nightmare. I bought through ebay for 21 years and this is the worst it has ever been in terms of mail. I would rather go to a local show abd buy there. And ebay did not help when they decided to push the ultra cheap shipping. A card should never be shipped in a standard white letter envelope.
I agree with you 100 percent about the mail. It's a mess! Packages going in circles! I definitely agree with you about the white envelope also! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi Billy. I agree with you on many fronts. Ebay is the easiest platform for me to use, as there are not many shows around here that have what I am interested in. The other factor for me is the increased pricing for shipping, coming to Canada. I haven`t purchased very much from ebay the past year. Most of my purchases have been through the bigger shows (Strongsville, National, Expo). Good luck on eventually getting the Griffey card, at a price that works for you. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays my friend, talk soon pal.
Much appreciated, Stephen! International shipping has gotten pretty crazy! I'll find one. I just have to be patient! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. Thanks, my friend!
I agree with your take on eBay right now. I don’t mind waiting for an auction to end, but there are way more overpriced Buy it Now cards that aren’t accepting offers. I’ve occasionally had luck messaging the seller for listings that don’t accept offers and making an offer via message if their Buy It Now price is reasonable, but it’s not as easy as if the listing is accepting Offers. They will just send an offer at the price we negotiated so the buying process is the same though.
@kfordham281 Thanks for watching and commenting! I have reached out to sellers before if they don't have make an offer on the listing. No luck yet! There are so many cards that are way overpriced with no make offer! Thanks again!
Great video Billy! I use Ebay, shows and LCS's. Not to the point where I trust Facebook and other social media sites. I registered my Sales Tax license for Minnesota with Ebay and don't pay taxes on purchases. We need that Sales Tax permit for our local Twin Cities Sports Collectors Club shows. I'm at the point, where I'll usually wait until I find an item for my price. Occasionally I overpay, but as long as I get an item I like, I'm ok with it.
@stuke1976 That's Scott. I appreciate you watching and commenting. I've heard that good deals can be found in Facebook groups, but I haven't made that plunge. With certain cards, I can be fairly patient, but with others, once I decide I want it, I want it right now!🤣🤣 Thanks again, my friend.
Hey Bill! Thanks again for the shout out in the video. I still spend an unhealthy amount of time searching eBay for deals and I’m still finding them. I think eBay is still king, because of its reach and ease of use. It can be frustrating dealing with people that think their cards are worth way more than comps, but I still find people who are willing to deal. Patience is not my virtue either and I think that’s why I look at a broad spectrum of cards to find a good deal. Rather than getting overly focused on one card and overpaying. Great topic for a collaboration or a live, if you ask me. Merry Christmas!
Thanks, Joe! You are the eBay deal master! I thought about asking you for a collaboration for this video! As you can tell, I'm still having difficulty with streamyard!🤣🤣
@ yeah I’ve played around with StreamYard a little bit. I need to take some time and really learn more about it.
For me it is E-Bay, LCS and shows in that order. Lately I have been looking for buy it now with best offer options, finding that some sellers are willing to deal a bit on those cards!
Hey Steve, thanks for watching and commenting. For me, it's eBay followed by shows. I usually go that same route on eBay. I target listings that allow offers and throw one out. If it doesn't get auto rejected, I wait for it to be rejected, accepted, or countered. Then, depending on the circumstances, it's another offer sent. It seems like fewer are willing to negotiate. That's where the real frustration comes from for me.
I feel you. Been looking for a 41 Playball Williams and have had the same experience for almost a year.
I bet that one is really tough on eBay because I'm sure there is never more than a handful listed at any given time! That is an awesome card. Happy hunting! Thanks for watching and commenting, Franco!
I think you are on to something regarding eBay! it does seem cards are getting harder to find and the prices some Sellers are asking border on absurd. Good luck with your SGC submission! Merry Christmas! Hope you have a great collecting year in 2025!
@Rocketrickj18 Thanks, my friend! Same to you, Rick! I hope you had an awesome Christmas!
Bill! Glad you have more free time, buddy. Yeah, eBay is still my go to but I also have a ton of shows in my area. I hope you got the Griffey! Mine is currently being graded and I’m nervous about it. Hopefully, it grades well. Merry Christmas to you and your family, my friend!
Awesome, Rob! I can't wait to see yours! I am yet to grab one, but I will when the right one comes along. I did get an amazing card that I can't wait to get in hand! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
That Griffey Elite was my favorite card of his, over his 89 UD, I have 3 Reggie rookies, none graded but nice shape, I'm still shocked about Rickey passing, his birthday is Christmas, sucks to say the least
It's an awesome card, for sure! It's definitely printed less than his upper deck rookie! 🤣🤣 Wow! 3 Jackson's, that's awesome. Rickey's passing was definitely a shock! He's younger than my mom and still looked like a physical specimen! Very sad. Thanks again, as always, my friend. Merry Christmas!
I feel your pain about chasing those Elite cards. Opened a few cases worth of boxes over the years and found none. Visited a thrift shop and they had the full set mixed into a 5k count box of everything for 10¢ each. Wild how these things just pop up in random places.
eBay sellers are still in 2021. Cards they would have in $1 boxes at shows or in shops are $9 or more and they won’t accept offers. I hate over paying like that.
Wow, that's insane! I hope you bought them! That's a heck of a find! I think a lot of them do still think it's 2021, and everything is going up! I'm with you. I don't overpay either unless it's justified by eye appeal.
This takes incredible patience, but I find that local card shows are one of the best places to snag cards at great value (no tax or shipping). But I only attend about two per year, so this makes waiting almost impossible and I end up buying a lot on eBay.
I agree! I attend as many local shows as I can and usually get the best deals there. It can be difficult at times to find a specific card that I'm looking for at shows, though. That's the only drawback I can think of, though. I definitely prefer buying cards at shows whenever possible. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Billy!
@warrendinCLE Thanks for watching and commenting, Warren!
I think some sellers with lots of listing's have them priced high because they are speculating that the cards value may go up for some reason or other. They can't completely stay current on prices for hundreds of listing's, so the price them at what they think maybe future prices for said card. I mean Rickey Henderson just passed and a ton of his cards sold immediately following the news, so if you were priced at comps you probably left money on the table for that short spike in demand. I'm not saying it's justified but I do think some sellers do this.
@mangobango6970 Thanks for watching and commenting. I think you're onto something with some sellers. But why have a card listed for twice its value with no "or best offer?" A 200 dollar card is going to take a long time to become a 400 dollar card under normal circumstances. Even with the Henderson scenario you spoke about, his cards aren't going to double from his passing. I'm just spitballing here. I get it that it's not you and you don't have all the answers. No one does, but a lot of it just doesn't make sense to me. Thanks again for the comment!
@billyballgamesportscards another thought about the best offer thing is...I've listed without a best offer before, because I know some people will reach out in ebay messages asking for my best price (which drives me crazy) but if they are interested i can lower the bin that will require them to pay immediately unlike if I accept an offer (or send them an offer) then they have 4 days to decide if they are going to pay for it. Plus even half the time I lower the bin for a negotiated price and they don't end up purchasing it anyway, so it just wasted my time.
I don't like wasting my time with best offers just to have them not pay, and then I have to wait 4 more days before I can relist it. Both sellers and buyers on ebay can be frustrating, so I try to minimize my own frustration.
@mangobango6970 I get that completely. There are definitely crappy buyers out there, also. I don't see things from the seller's perspective though, so that's not something I have ever taken into account. I just know I buy I pay. Rinse and repeat!
I understand your frustration. I've been looking for a '58 Vada Pinson rookie for a few months and all the listing are about double the VCP average. I think Ebay is still the king but I did recently buy a big card from Fanatics Collect.
@Peacemakercards Thanks for watching and commenting, Dave! I love the Pinson rookie. It's a beautiful card and definitely on my list of cards to pick up. I will have to check out Fanatics Collect. Good luck with your Pinson hunt!
I do think that if you developed some card tactics and patience using it.. You can score a few big hits on a budget! A very useful tool for people like us. Will you miss a few? Yes! That makes you getting a nice card at a sweetheart price even tastier!
@royakard8536 I did manage to score an awesome card! Just none of the ones I talked about. It should be here Friday, and I'm super excited! Stay tuned!
Merry Christmas Billy. I mostly use eBay but using auctions for rare stuff
Thanks, Orlando! I may need to start signing up for some of the auctions myself! I've thought about it but never have. Thanks, my friend.
On eBay, patience is everything. I always get a card listed at $500 buy it now for half or even less than that on auction most of the time. But it does matter what you collect. I’m speaking from modern football and basketball.
Wow! That's pretty awesome! I'd be over the moon if I got something that cheap. I collect mostly vintage but also some modern and even some ultramodern. Mostly baseball. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I picked up an SGC 8.5 on that 1992 Donruss Elite Griffey last year for $116.61 all-in. It was an auction listing and it's one where they have it listed on the slab as "1991 Leaf" due to the copyright info on the back of the card. I'm not sure if I was able to get it that cheap due to the fact it didn't say "1992 Donruss Elite" or not but that's a sneaky way to possibly search for that card on E-Bay.
Thanks, Ryan! Great info! You got a great deal on yours, and they are awesome cards. Congrats! Merry Christmas to you and yours. M-I-Z!
@@billyballgamesportscards Merry Christmas to you as well. Z-O-U!
eBay is still has the most available and is a top go to. Just like at shows, some sellers have ridiculously high prices. To me I have a long list of things I’d like so if what one thing I want isn’t available at a reasonable price, I can just get something else. But most of the cards I buy and sell I do in Facebook groups. Definitely hear you with the high BIN prices. It is annoying!
Thanks for the input, Mark! I'm in some of the Facebook groups but haven't bought anything off there! I know some good deals can be had that way for sure! Thank you again, my friend, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Gave a video like. For me, eBay is still king. You will always have people putting cards on there that are hoping to get a much higher price then recent comps. Comps can be tricky too though. If someone is looking to compare something that is listed as a buy it now or best offer to a sale of an auction, they will likely be disappointed more than they are pleased. The point of an auction is to try and get a great deal on something you want that you wouldn't ordinarily be able to get. You could also have someone list something as buy it now that doesn't really deal in cards and sell something way cheaper than it would otherwise go for. That doesn't mean sales following that one should be compared to that sale. Rather, that sale was an outlier. So much more could be said, don't want to post a novel on comps.
Much appreciated, Brian! You're right comps can be tricky for sure. But if a card sells fairly regularly, I think VCP average price will give you pretty good comps. I'll pay above comps depending on eye appeal, but a card worth 288 bucks according to VCP average price being listed for above 600 bucks is insane! Thanks for watching and commenting, my friend!
@@billyballgamesportscards I guess I'm just sort of use to it on higher demand cards. I just have to be extra patient and wait for an auction or something. When you are dealing with cards like that, you might be coming up against "investors" who are waiting to sell and maximize their profits. You also will likely have collectors who value their card higher than what they currently go for. I don't have VCP. Is there a way to filter all recent sales of the card and get the average of the ones that sold via buy it now and best offer and exclude the auctions? I wonder if that would change the price difference a bit since there is such a substantial difference in price from what they were just recently selling for.
@Hodges1455 There isn't a way I know of that you can separate the average prices by auction or buy it now, but when you scroll through recent sales it shows if it was buy it now or auction. It also shows what auction house it came from, Heritage, eBay, etc.
@@billyballgamesportscards That's cool. At least that allows you to check the last three non-auction sales and be able to compare those with what you are looking to make an offer on.
@Hodges1455 It definitely comes in handy. I use it every day. It's a little pricey, in my opinion, but well worth it.
I still think the volume and usability of eBay makes it the best buying platform available. I collect for a PC and buy to flip, and I make purchases for both all the time on eBay. For flipping, I'm almost always bidding on $.99 starting bid auctions. I aim to get them at 75-80% what I think I can sell them for, and typically win around 5-6% of what I bid on. Ideally I can sell them on another platform and avoid the eBay fees, but I do end up listing most of it on eBay using the BIN/OBO option with a BIN slightly above comps, and usually below any other listing on eBay for the same card in the same grade. If someone makes a reasonable offer I will usually meet them in the middle and they usually accept. I'm not making any huge profits, but it's fun to own the cards briefly and make a small profit.
That said, I think eBay is losing some of its market share. I'm certainly exploring other sources lately, with some success.
Thanks for your insight!
Brad
@ChiSoxCardboard Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Brad. I agree that eBay is still the top platform, but maybe losing market share to some of the other platforms. I think auctions are definitely the way to go, but I am finding them to be more and more difficult to find for the card I'm hunting for at the time. What's the name of your eBay store? Thanks again for watching and commenting!
eBay is still the biggest sports card marketplace in the world and it's open 24/7. As someone with an eBay store with over 3,800 listings, anything I list over $1.99 is listed with Or Best Offer. I get a lot of offers at 50% of list price no matter what price I list it at (sometimes as low as 30%), so I list it where I can make a good profit, but competitively and willing to negotiate. I think auctions bring far less then what you can get if you price it out yourself.
I appreciate you watching and commenting! What's your eBay store name, and I'll check it out? People offering 30% for a card that's priced fairly is absolutely absurd, IMO. Even 50% percent is crazy unless the card is just way overpriced. But I'm sure you see some interesting things with a store that big! Thanks again.
I buy mostly on eBay. I hate paying more for shipping and taxes. Not sure if there are more or less cards now than there were 2 or 3 years ago. Cheers. Merry Christmas.
Thanks, Dave! I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! Merry Christmas to you as well!
I'm the same way. Once I think of a card I want, then I want to buy it asap.... I just bought a Johnny Unitas 1958 Topps in a SGC 2.5 for the same amount that a SGC 5 sold for recently... i dont know if they got a great deal or i got a bad one but i didn't have the patience to wait days or months for another to be listed in the price range I was wanting to spend, so I just took the best one available at a price I could afford
Thanks for watching and commenting, Rick! That's an awesome card! I might have done the same thing if I was truly locked in on that card. I'd probably pay up to get the right one as well.
In my opinion on that Griffey card the prices are going to be in a wide range. It's somewhat rare, especially for that era and its a very popular player and a somewhat popular set. You even mentioned that it was almost impossible to find at shows. The buyer probably had to pay close to comps, so if I was lucky enough to have one like that to sell I would ask over comps. Now the Bench card, yeah you aren't getting over comps.
Thanks for watching and commenting, John! You make a great point. Iconic card of an iconic player absolutely. I would be willing to pay up for one but not 100 bucks above comps for that card. I'd even pay up a bit for a nicely centered Bench, but some of these prices are crazy! Thanks again, and Merry Christmas!
@@billyballgamesportscards Merry Christmas! BTW another reason for less auctions is some states have passed laws requiring people that do an X amount of volume to get an auctioneer license, which can be quite expensive. Ebay has also been forced to charge sales tax, they're a victim of their own success.
Buyers always want the discounted bulk price, but without buying bulk. My suggestion is that if you're in a stalemate with a seller, go into their ebay store and find a few other things you like and put together a little package. Then message the seller and say something like "Hey, i'm interested in these 5 cards you're selling. You're asking $60 total. Would you take $45? He'll come back at $55, then you meet at $50. A lot of times when you bundle like that and you spread the money out you end up getting the card that you really liked for even less than what you were hoping for.
That's interesting, for sure. It works the same way at card shows. My buddy's Chris and Tom are bundling machines at shows. I don't usually buy a big stack of cards, though, at this point. When I buy, I usually buy 1 or 2 bigger cards because I have so many big holes in my collection to fill! Thanks again!
As a seller on ebay I might be able to offer a different perspective. Most sellers only do it as a part time hobby. Most of us have full time jobs that pay our bills, so were not under pressure to sell cards quickly. I personally don't mind sitting on a card for a few years if I have to just to get a price I'm happy with. Over the last couple of years I've been loading up on future hall of fame'rs like Von Miller and Rob Gronkowski and I expect them to just be sitting on my ebay store for a few years until they're inducted and people are willing to pay a little more for them. So I'm rejecting offers for $40 because I know in a few years I'll be able to get $70 for them.
@Sandman60077 Thanks for watching and commenting from a dealer's perspective. So, do you have them listed now, hoping someone will go ahead and pay what you want? Why list them now and let them stay up on eBay? I'm genuinely curious about it. Thanks again.
@@billyballgamesportscards Yup, I have them listed now. For example I have a nice Von Miller card serial numbered out of /25 in a PSA 10, I've had a few people send me what I consider low offers that I've declined because I know once he retires there will be a price spike in his cards, then again when he enters the HOF there will be another price spike. I have it listed now because in the meantime a nostalgia collector might come along and buy it at full asking price, because maybe Von Miller was his favorite player and they have fond memories of him winning the Super Bowl MVP with the Broncos.
@@billyballgamesportscardssomeone eventually does pay what I want
Been selling on EBay for 4 years and the majority of my inventory is long term holds, so I don’t mind rejecting offers from resellers and I honestly don’t mind them sitting another 5-10 years maybe even more
@@billyballgamesportscards I’ve had items that sat 2-3 years on EBay until the right collector payed my price
@jesser9115 Wow! That is patience, my friend!
Agreed, sellers that ask redickulas prices need to be stopped. It's 100% ebay's fault. They need to follow Topps example and charge a large fee for cards that exceed comps.
@MasterShake300 It is very frustrating at times. I think they should be able to ask what they want for their card. I'm not going to pay their insane prices! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Merry Christmas 🎅🎄 Billy
Thanks, Billy! Same to you, my friend!
ebay prices have always been wildly different. not sure where these people even come up with some of these prices
I have often wondered that myself!
Hey Billy! Good question. I think eBay is still viable. But prices have been up. Maybe it’s a seasonal thing? Hoping our wives will get on and overpay for that card we want?
I just got a ‘61 Topps Pinson with a lower than list price by reaching to the Seller. They did not have a best offer tab on the card. So maybe try that?
Back to pricing. Seems like any card with Yogi Berra on it has become super expensive. Steep increases.
Thanks, Topher! I would love Sabta to bring me some awesome cards this year!
E-Bay and Comc are my top 2 when it comes to buying online. E-Bay for graded and comc for my cheaper cards. Some sellers have make on offer on their page and will not budge one cent. That irks me the most. Lol. Whatever. If they want it to sit months on in and not move the card that is on them. I have been watching some cards for years and they could have a sell, but they will not budge a dollar. Enjoyed and hope you feel better.
Much appreciated, Steve! Yes! If you aren't going to budget one cent, why even make an offer enabled on the listing? That is the most frustrating for me as well. Thanks as always for watching and commenting. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I’ve bought a couple from COMC but ONLY when I can find the card ANYWHERE else.
Think they are typically MUCH higher than market and a pain to deal with.
They are my LAST RESORT.
@harambeslifemattered2970 I've never bought a card from them. I agree anytime I've looked, they are way overpriced and don't have nearly the cards eBay does.
@@billyballgamesportscards yea. Just depends on what you are looking for really. If you are looking for standard base cards and buying in bulk I personally like comc with the flat rate shipping. Graded cards I would rarely mess with on comc
@vintagecardssteve8582 I agree, Steve! I don't think they're good for graded cards from what I've seen!
Hey Billy! Listening to your plight, I have a lot of sympathy for you. I was in the same place as you with that Griffey 92 Elite about a year and a half ago. I did a lot of research and comping and waited WAY longer than I would have thought until the right one (BGS 9) came along at the right price. I have some thoughts in general and also about this specific card. Im feeling a LONG comment coming on… maybe I should just make a video response! 😂
In the case of this specific card, I think VCP is wrong. I have no clue about how they arrive at their $288 for a PSA 9. That card sits around $350-$400 all day, (or at least it did when I was hunting for it). Now, because I collect cards, not plastic, and I refuse to pay the PSA premium for a “mint” card, I decided that I was going to specifically target either a BGS 9 or an SGC 9, which both comped right around $250. The red PSA label wasn’t (and still isn’t) worth the extra $100 tax to me. So, if you’re specifically targeting a PSA slab, you may need to prepare to drop some more coin than what VCP says, because they’re wrong.
This case study is representative of a few larger issues though: “PSA” slab premiums vs other companies’ holders, comps having dubious accuracy, and the one that’s tickling my brain as I write this - the “No man’s land” of card prices / values. There’s a phenomenon I’ve noticed, which you’ve described perfectly, where a card typically sells for $X, but all the BIN listings have it at $2X - $3X. Only the auctions finish close to $X when they come up, but they don’t come up too often for the specific card you’re targeting. So it’s a game of chicken: either you get impatient and just pay the inflated price, or nobody does, and the card just sits there for months or years without selling. When there aren’t a lot of a specific card available (maybe it’s the only one currently listed on eBay), sellers can sometimes get away with holding a card ransom like this. While it’s not unethical, it’s certainly annoying as a potential buyer to come across a museum table at a card show, where everything is priced at 2X comps. This “No man’s land” that fall between $X and $2X is a weird territory, where in theory, sellers should be happy to sell a card at some level around or even reasonably above auction comps. If a card sells for $100 at auction all day and a seller has it listed at $200, I don’t think an offer of $100 is an unreasonable one to throw out there. He may counter with $130 or something, but at least you’re both playing in the same ballpark. These clowns who list it for $300 though with no offers allowed, they’re probably lost causes.
Honestly, the answer to this “No man’s land” probably looks a lot like patience. Well, that or showing completed sales to the seller to gently show them how out of touch with reality they are 😂
Great video, Billy! Sorry for the novel! 😅
@HighPopProfessor Hey Brian, I really appreciate it. I think you are exactly right. Also, I would much rather have an SGC 9 to save almost 100 bucks. The really crazy thing that I forgot to mention in the video was a few days before my hobby allowance dropped into my account a seller made me an offer on an SGC 9.5 for around 400 (I don't remember the exact amount). Of course, someone scooped it up very quickly, and I wanted to kick myself! Sellers holding cards for ransom, as you mentioned, may be a cause of eBay's ever increasing seller fees as well! Thanks again for watching and commenting, my friend!
@ And that SGC 9.5 is a card that I can see where even paying up above comps could be worthwhile! Sorry you missed out on it!
@HighPopProfessor I'll be patient. It'll come back around!
There's one currently on there for $195. Hope you get your card Billy.
I appreciate that. I'll get one at some point. I just have to be patient. The one for 195 is ungraded. That's way too risky for me!🤣🤣 Thanks for watching and commenting.
Let me ask the peanut 🥜 gallery here, did the values of baseball cards become worthless at some point between 2005-2017? I'm looking at the auction sales of PCWW back to 2017 and some big cards were practically given away. What happened?
They weren't worthless, but they were super cheap! It makes me wish I was buying those types of cards back then and not ripping hockey packs!🤣🤣
eBay has major problems with their search right now and it has to do with the implementation of AI. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot more cards listed on eBay than you think, but they just aren't coming up in the search results right now
@WatchingSomeTH-camVideos Very interesting! I hadn't really thought about eBay using AI! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I really understand
Much appreciated!
Sometimes on Ebay I will message the seller an offer if they don't have the or best offer option most of the time they respond
@@crickjames Thanks for watching and commenting! I have done that myself but haven't had much luck!
Please don't say Whatnot, please don't say Whatnot.........
🤣🤣 I've never used WhatNot! I've definitely heard mixed reviews! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I'm in the top 5 % of top sellers on ebay! So there! It's my #1 selling item of 2000+ active items
@@michaeldenzer6024 Congratulations! What is your best selling item of 2,000+ active items?
Ebay is my main source for cards and to be successful patience is the main ingredient. I never bid on a card until the last hours in case I can obtain it sooner and at a better price. Use of the ebay search engine gives me a daily list to view. It is satisfying to finally obtain the rare SP card at the right price after a couple years. I never pay more than Beckett almanac high book price and that includes tax and shipping. For me baseball card collecting is a lifetime project so what's the hurry?
You make some great points! I don't think I'm in a hurry, just very impatient! 😀😃
Like #23! I definitely feel your pain, so frustrating! Most sellers on ebay do over price and a large number of them that do have a best offer option after getting a fair offer still dismiss it or come back with a counter offer of little or no difference than their asking price. I just move on and wait, as impatient as I can be at times. I have limited funds for my hobby having a family as most people do. I only pay over when the eye appeal is immaculate because more times than not, greed is the reason. I have had cards on my watch list for years and you send reasonable offers and they still will not accept the offer. Plenty of cards on eBay that are way over book and that has helped me become picky and a little more patient. Not much more, just a little....lol Anyways, I have a tendency to ramble as well 😂😂 Enjoyed the watch and can relate, thanks for sharing 👍👍Until next time, wishing you an awesome day and you and your family a very happy Holiday Billy ✌out
Much appreciated, Andy! It sounds like we've had very similar experiences on eBay, unfortunately!🤣🤣 It's why I still don't have a McCovey rookie. I can never get together with a seller on price when I find one with nice eye appeal and I'm offering about comps usually. Just not 40-50 percent above! Thanks again. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
There is a PSA 8 on COMC for $300
@booyaa87 I forgot to look on comc the other day. 300 for an 8 is pretty overpriced, though. Thanks for watching and commenting! Merry Christmas!
I've been 100% eBay. But I'm looking at other venues to sell. I have tried others and have had zero sales elsewhere. I just don't appreciate the fees eBay takes from us. It's kind of misleading. But my greatest sales are on eBay
Interesting, I didn't know you sold on eBay. I have never bought a card from an online platform other than eBay. Thanks again, Warren!
@billyballgamesportscards I haven't gone down the COMC rabbit hole. I've tried Buysportscards and slab stocks with little success.y inventory isn't what it used to be. I've been ok paying bills first before I really get into buying again. I just pick up cards for me right now. No big cards
Dude, there's 120,000 cards up for auction right now on ebay, and you cant stand to wait cause your folks never told you no 😅
@brickbreaker8148 You might be right in that! I just said it seemed like there were less of the types of cards I was looking to buy at auction. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I like selling on Mecari, lower fees and the process to sell is simpler. Mecari however has no where near the traffic as eBay.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I think that's one of the biggest reasons eBay is number one. It had so many eyes on it. Something may come along that can give it a run for its money eventually, but it's going to take a while for that to happen, I think. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Time is your best friend. At least it is mine. If a seller won't budge on price, I'll let my money sit in my high-yield savings acct and earn me a bit of interest until a price meets my goal.
🤣🤣 Great approach! I've done the same thing minus the high yield savings account part! That's great! Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@billyballgamesportscardssince eBay will take directly out of your bank account now, I opened an online savings account for my hobby money. That way I earn about 5%. When I buy something it comes out of my main checking account and I just transfer that from my hobby account. So if a seller doesn’t budge on price that money just sits earnings interest.
I think it is WhatNot because of the free money.
Thanks! I haven't tried WhatNot yet. I may have to give it a shot!
People just “ milking” the market. I understand, I’m not patient either. Look at some of the Brooks Robinson cards. It will make you throw up.
Thanks for watching and commenting, John! I looked on eBay at Brooks. It's definitely absurd! 60 and 70 bucks for ungraded cards from the 60s. You could buy them in 6s and 7s for that much!
A lot of times sellers will consider half-off. Graig pulls off shocking buys with what he actually refers to as "lowball offers". Sometimes it's just a card a person would sell ONLY if it was a price they can't refuse. (But why list it?) Or they are just that patient in certain cases. Sellers can also put a minimum offer amount, which automatically declines yours even at .01 below. It is frustrating though. I'm negotiating on a card right now. As far as prices go, many times we have to create a new floor so to speak on cards gaining exposure/popularity. Honestly channels like yours Dylan's and Graig's have increased the popularity of centering and the eye appeal factor - especially on iconic/important cards and future hall of famers. People are taking your advice and it literally affects prices, creating a new price point. My beef with eBay is their butt-buddy relationship with the IRS and their constantly overstepping fees. The sales tax addition in 2019 ruined eBay for many people. It was an automatic go-to for singles until then for me. Face it buddy, you guys are affecting the hobby!
Thanks, Ben! You make a lot of good points in your response, especially with the tax that kicked in in 2019, and I had forgotten about that. I'm sure that has a big impact! I think maybe you give me too much credit for being an "influencer" when it comes to eye appeal, though! 🤣🤣 But, I definitely appreciate the compliment!
@@billyballgamesportscards Haha! Well at the very least you influence great vibes, positive attitude, and hobby wisdom my friend! BUT, don't sell yourself short buddy, you guys really do make a difference. Think about how obliviously blind everyone was 2019-2022-ish when there was nothing but bad advice everywhere and FOMO was massive. It took real people, like yourself, making REAL content with realistic outlooks and wise advice to cause a correction. The predators were out and ferociously devouring anyone they could. The hobby is still recovering some but you guys helped reincorporate common sense. I just watched the big channels in horror watching them pump things history has proven cannot hold value. Then the blue-collar guys started coming up. It's bigger than you all understand - which is part of the reason I decided to start commenting after being on TH-cam since 2007. (Had another account until mid-2019) It wasn't fun watching people get crushed by these glossy channel's bad advice and overhyping of everything current. It's a big deal because you guys helped make it fun - and I'm grateful!
@blixcards I really appreciate that Ben. It really means a lot to me that someone would consider me a positive influence in the hobby and someone who has wisdom in the hobby. Thanks, my friend! I watched a lot of those types of channels myself as I was wondering in any of the modern overproduced, over hyped, manufactured scarcity stuff would hold any long-term value. It had a huge impact on how I collect today.
@@billyballgamesportscards You bet!
Good morning on this 2024 Christmas Eve. Let me address the 7 Day and 10 day auction perspective from being a seller on eBay. As a seller if the card is more valuable I want to do a 10 day auction. Because there is possible that I get more eyes 👀. And hopefully more money. A lesser value card I do 7 Day auction's. If I know the price I want I just do buy it now.
@anthonythomasexperience Thanks again, Anthony! I love auctions! Selfishly, I wish I could find them more often for the types of cards I'm looking for! Conveniently always ending within a day or 2 of when I want to buy and always with me winning!😂😂
eBay buy it now is just people putting up cards at random prices. I usually just message the seller before making an offer asking how serious they are about actually selling it. I have bought cards were people hade gone from 800$ to 175$. It’s all nonsense
Wow, that's crazy Bob! Even with sellers with high feedback? I could understand if it was sellers with little to no feedback, but that's a drastic change in price! Thanks, I may have to keep that in the back of my mind moving forward.
Well it’s interesting. I collect 2012 prizm basketball and football. Many of these cards are very low pop. So people don’t have many comps to work with. The funny thing is many of these auctions of these cards go for more then some of the buy it now’s. But for the most part if a card is way over comps just contact the seller before making an offers and just blatantly ask them what’s a realistic price. The seller knows the buy it now price isn’t realistic. Especially if it’s been sitting there for 6 months. The auto decline feature on eBay doesn’t even notify the seller you made an offer. So for example I have a card listed for 500 with the lowest offer to not get rejected at 300. If someone offers 295 I wouldn’t even know. But I would take 300 most likely. So just ask
That would be a 7 day auction not a buy it now...
@johnrusselman1364 Yeah, I made a few mistakes where I misspoke in this video. I thought I caught them all and added text!
eBay is trash. Anywhere is better….their “customer service” is pathetic!
@brianc7719 Luckily, I've never had to deal with their customer service. They definitely have their warts, but they are the best online platform. I'd rather buy cards at shows, but it doesn't always work that way. I appreciate you watching and commenting, Brian!
80% ebay, 15% whatnot, 5% other for me
Interesting! I haven't tried WhatNot! I may have to check it out. Thanks.
eBay is the place to sell cards if the cards are under $50,000. For anything higher, you probably are going somewhere else.
@@georgeriley4818 No doubt! Huge amount of eyes and traffic. Thanks for watching and commenting!
eBay is feebay you know you talked a lot about the buyer getting a great card without paying over comp but you didn’t think about or talk about how the sellers are getting hit with all the fees causing the sellers to have to ask over what the market will support at a LCS or show
@BattsOtt I get that, but I'm not a seller, so I don't see it from that perspective. I get that and spoke about being willing to pay above comps for the right card. I don't have a problem with sellers making money and of course it's a dance. I want the card as cheaply as I can get it. They want to make the most money they possibly can. Asking 629.99 for a 288 dollar card is pretty extreme, though, in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ yeah in that case I agree they are being ridiculous but unfortunately many honest sellers will say have an auto worth 300 but by the time eBay gets done with charging them fees in the shipping and sales and all they end up paying close to $100 of the value of the card to eBay so they have to sell for e but over like 1.5 times what the cards worth to get close to book in their pocket and still get a little under book value in return when the cards worth to sells that’s how bad eBay has gotten in fact because of it I sell less online now than ever but I use market place and sports card groups to move my cards for sale and I use CollX now so the buyer can get a decent price as im not paying a ton to feebay
No! eBay is king. There is not another platform that has the number of eyes as eBay. All the other platforms, like WhatNot/Drip/Alt are all minor players. eBay does not have to advertise. The others do.
@thereverendripps1733 I agree with that. I have never bought a card from another online platform. Thanks for watching and commenting.
No
Ebay could save some overhead money by penalizing sellers who list cards at auctions with outrageous starting prices. I see the same Cam Reddish cards not moving at auction every week bc of high starting price. How much of that cost is passed on to sellers bc of that? How many auction listings per week does ebay offer that do not get 1 bid? Prices are down for 2 major reasons. Oversupply and less money available to many collectors bc of the rise of everything prices since 2020. Let's pray/wish/hope for improvement in our economy so card prices will reclaim their past glory and I can get out of this money pit😂
@judeniles5111 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Jude. What you say makes sense. Sellers complain about the fees eBay charges. EBay's fees might be higher because of all the cards that stay listed indefinitely with no movement, causing more overhead on eBay's behalf, causing them to raise fees. The perverbial snake eating its tail. Very interesting! Thanks again!
that is a really interesting take. what "overhead" would they save on? they would penalize people selling on their platform when they stand to make more money when and if an item sells. 🤔 not too likely to happen. 😛
@sisterraysbrother All those dead listings that stay on eBay for months and even years in some cases take up overhead space. Whether it's cloud storage, system maintenance, or listing maintenance. Even though they aren't a physical store, they still have overhead. They make money when a card sells, and it costs them money to maintain listings that just set on the platform. If there were fewer dead listings, there would be less overhead, and maybe fees wouldn't continually increase. Just my thoughts. I have never sold anything on eBay. It costs money to run and maintain the world's largest hobby museum.
@@billyballgamesportscards maybe somebody who works in IT can elaborate but that cost is actually miniscule. I sent a chat to my buddy who would know better thinking he could articulate on the matter.. he's prob busy but he said, "the cost would amount to a rounding error."
@sisterraysbrother I'm definitely not an IT guy for sure. It could all be kept on servers too, which would be massive and very expensive.