Personally, my problem with bias in media is not that it exists, but moreover when media tries to pretend that it’s not biased. Just be upfront with it.
100% agreed. Funny thing is I believe that's exactly how it used to be back in the 1800's - everybody had *their* newspaper, so of course you'd get bias if you read one paper or another, that was expected.
I got into Vox based on their Hong Kong videos. I like a lot of their content. But I always feel like that in order to make short form content, they leave out crucial information.
Ikr, Vox is just very biased towards the left when it comes to the social things. I liked Johnny Haris's map stuff, those videos were actually educational!
As a viewer outside US, my most favorite thing about Vox is the story about international borders. They talked about international conflict between two countries as a results of tight security along the border. They do it in many country such as at South America, europe and literal conflict at the ocean. Love it!
Same here, and the one behind that kind of video is johny harris, he's now starting his own channel. You can check it out but for me, i don't really like his channel, sometimes it's feel like he's trying to pushed his oppinion through his content. Maybe because he's independent now and have more freedom to share his oppinion. In some ways maybe it's good, but in this case i don't really like him anymore.
You never really answered the question on why journalists left vox and you gave a vague answer on why people hate vox. Having a political lean shouldn’t make you hated unless the reporting is straying from the facts. I left this video with no complete answers to the questions you posed. Not saying you were wrong on anything I’m just sitting here now wondering what the answers are.
Journos left for same reason they are leaving everyone. Corp journos are horribly underpaid and overworked. Going freelance is hard but they have higher ceiling and can work on what they care about personally.
The point this video is making is 1.) Vox started publishing riffraff content which doesn't provide any value similar to what Buzzfeed used to do. 2.) It became a biased media source while initially it was unbiased 3.) They started cherry-picking facts to suit their biased narrative. Hope you got the answer now
Johnny Harris left vox in 2020 over disagreements with higher ups about the 4th season of borders (which was never published), it covered a lot of US political issues that in the wake of the BLM movement and Capitol riots it seems vox didn’t want to move forward with.
@@ollyfirth4641 Reporting Story’s/Opinion pieces that are founded in facts does not make them biased per se, just because one site does not like the drawn conclusions. I have not watched the videos /read the stories (?), so I can’t say in this case but just naming 2 left/right conflict topics does not makes them woke/wrong/biased in my opinion.
There’s obviously no such thing as media without some kind of bias, but to use the weed v alcohol article as proof of the liberal agenda is so funny to me. There is literal scientific literature overwhelmingly supporting this premise there isn’t “two sides” to every issue. Sometimes one side is just completely wrong and doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously. Same goes for stuff like climate change
Except marijuana literally ruins lives and climate change is literally a leftist dogwhistle. You ever stop to consider that your side is the wrong side?
As someone who left the left because it was becoming so radicalized and also faith reinvigorated, yes I agree that Vox is biased to a whole new level! Now yes, the conservatives have their problems too, I'm pretty sure global warming is still real, but yeah the far left is clearly being more radicalized than the right! I've seen how bad the left liberal people can be, Vox used to be a great news source but nowadays it is just so one sided. Some bias will always exist in this day and age, but Vox takes it to a whole new level!
@@bloodwargaming3662 In my experience, the far left is way more unscientific and illogical than the far right, but yeah why do the conservatives deny climate change? I've always wondered why but no one has a clear answer.
You don't need to go that deep. Go over to their website right now and read the article on immigration. If that doesn't set off partisan alarm bells, I don't know what to say...
Gosh, thank you for clarifying that... I love their content but It was always incomplete... Regularly I was leaving a comment asking for a followup episode to complete the topic which obviously never came... Quite sad... I indeed rarely watch their videos nowadays compared to before...
I didn’t know that was the case, because I’ve stopped consuming news generally. I used to watch Young Turks. Tldr sometimes, but they also biased. They all biased. So I mostly stopped. My views are rarely expressed in either left or right media. They both have the wrong premise to start with. Logically answered, I watch almost all of them.
I used to love them. Their coverage of the Syrian war is a large part of what got me into geo-politics, but especially the foreign policy of America and the west. after 2016 it just went down hill. It felt like they became more like activists, when I just wanted objective coverage
Being knowledgeable about some of the subjects Vox has covered, their slant is both obvious and annoying. If you catch a group only telling half the story about one subject, that taints their credibility in all subjects.
@@cyrileo no I'd have to agree with Matter of Facts, there is an obvious leaning in Vox articles. Criticism is a chance to grow and not meant to be a diss.
I've watched every single video on Vox and I agree with you about Vox being left-leaning but it doesn't tell half of the story it tells a different story. for 'Why the US isn't ready for clean energy', for example, doesn't talk about whether climate change is real or not, but rather the challenges of implementing climate solutions, a completely different story/topic.
I started doubting vox when they made a video titled "why Ethiopia is in civil war" as an Ethiopian I was excited to see one of my favorite channels cover this topic, but I was shocked when I saw how the video twisted facts and was very baised. I still like many of their contents but I watch it more carefully now
i personally really like vox's 'informative' content, not political or social commentary, but instead just information about a random topic. like their recent ones on soccer or pickleball. They are well made and i always learn something new, which is good. its funny though, after seeing this video i went to look at their channels recent uploads, and i was blown away by how much they post that never even made it to my feed. let alone the weird stuff that they post online on their website i view them more as a 'edutainment' channel (from my experience anyways), where i can learn something quirky that i otherwise wouldnt have. and at that, they excel. as a news source however...yeah...maybe not :D
With Borders canceled, Atlas series was the only reason for most to watch the channel, but they slowly started phasing that series out as well, which really sucked, as both series shined the light on some serious issues around the world. I disagreed with their political stance, but their documentaries and trivial videos are amazing, sucks that they started to produce them on slower pace.
Funnily enough I didn’t know Vox, when I first saw it I thought “wow what a nice independent journalism channel”, but not much later I thought about it and concluded it was just another legacy media after seeing more of their content
I was a big fan of Vox in the mid 2010s. Their content and animations made me actually interested in news and I learned a lot from their videos. But I slowly started them being too leftist but hey, every media picks a side so I thought I'll just ignore that. Besides, it's good to get perspective from different sides. But then they started to defend every leftist sgenda and their arguments were so bizarre. What made me finally quit Vox was a video about "Why Taxes Are Unfair To Poor & Favour The Rich" and I was excited to learn something new. But do you know what their argument was? It went something like "If a poor person in the 10% tax bracket gave a tax-deductible charity donation of $100, then he only saves $10 in taxes. But if a rich person in the 37% tax bracket makes the same donation, he'll save $37. That's unfair." I remember shouting at my computer screen like, "DUDE! THAT"S HOW PERCENTAGES WORK!!!"
When I first saw Vox I was impressed with their quality and clean cut delivery, but it didn't take me long to see their bias. My brain instantly organized them as 'untrustworthy'. This is not what I want when I'm looking to be educate myself, so I activatly started avoiding them on my feed.
What have they said that isn't trustworthy? Or did you just label them that way because they said things you didn't agree with, and have a different bias then you?
Same! When I first found out about Vox, it seemed amazing in quality and it was for a time, but yeah Vox soon became really biased and not very educational! I'm in the process of leaving the left, and I notice more and more how Vox is a reason why people think Americans are stupid, uneducated, and ignorant!
they lost their way? Their drive? Drive towards what? Every publication has an overly political bias.. theres no such thing as not having one. You just dont like their politics so you say they have lost their way because youre a dumbasss who doesnt realize thats theres no such thing as being objective EVERYTING has a political bias
While many of them didn't necessarily hide their biases in the early days, their content was still honest, great examples of low budget, "boots on the ground" journalism. They really did some great stuff back then - but man was that a long time ago...
👍 Thanks for your thoughtful comment 💬 It's good to see that people are still trying to make media better even when it's hard! It's a tough job, but I'm inspired by the courage of those who do it.
Many years ago I began a journey to find THE news source, which I could trust. I tried everything from Vox to NYT to Wall Street News and Bloomberg. I have landed on The economist. While they have their bias, everyone has bias. And different degree of bias. I think if the bias is closer to center, then the problem of bias should be looked more through a lens of values. What is the thing that we can agree. Then we can together look at the facts, together meaning I read the articles or listen to podcasts and do my own analysis. I think important values are liberalism, rule of law, strong democracy and belief in the discussion, as a way to find the best solution.
I think with all the options out there they failed to reach broad appeal. People are not only waking up to media bias, but are actively finding better options. I love Breaking Points for example, it does have a bias, but not like these companies do.
@CLEMENTE I took a quick look and it looks like a conservative channel, so I do notice bias, but you guys say they aren't that bias, could you tell me more. Especially about this socialist vs libertarian conversation
If you go to the breaking points page there is about 30 to 1 ratio negative coverage of Democrats compared to Republicans. Just because they cover both sides doesn't mean it isn't effectively conservative propaganda.
All news media is written by news journalists, who will inevitably project their political biases. The problem arises when media companies try to present themselves as unbiased and objective. NPR really gets under my skin for doing this. Like, it's so obvious that their reporters scour for the most pro-government sources imaginable. Makes sense since NPR is government funded. Yet NPR just won't admit that they're partial towards certain views, and even wrote an article scoffing at accusations of bias. All viewpoints should be supported by corroborated evidence. If you're only relying on one media company as a news source, you're probably getting misinformed to some degree. It's okay to listen to NPR, or Breaking Points, or even goddamn Russel Brand for all I care, as long as it's not exclusively just one of them.
I saw a few breaking points videos, but Krystal is too nice and doesn't challenge Sagar on anything he says. And they mostly attack democrats and barely attack republicans. So it's a pretty conservative outlet
@@bevvy.bee9 Krystal is a socialist and Sagar is... Maybe a libertarian? Not sure he seems to be traditional conservative. But the setup is that they bring up a topic and give their views on it, and usually Sagar gets away with saying whatever he likes and Krystal doesn't challenge him on it and they end up blaming the democrats for all of it. That's how it usually plays out.
Ngl, your really underrated. At first I was thinking “oh it’s prolly just that he’s new. there’s tons of high quality channels who just aren’t large due to the fact that they’re new”, but then I realized that you’ve been doing this for long enough that you should’ve had more traction by now. Confusing Also, great video!
It seems genuine content isn't commercially viable. Think genuine workout programs/information, science, information dense music etc. He's literally that good.
Conservative viewpoints are usually much less valuable than liberal viewpoints, and it is good that Vox doesn't pretend otherwise. These charges of "bias" are shallow and rooted in false notions of neutrality. Not every story has two sides-- only some do, while others don't. However, Vox's version of liberalism is also often stupid. Vox's actual problems are different and more subtle than your criticism suggests.
Everything made of people will inevitably have a point of view. Vox's point of view leans left as this channel leans more to the right, and that is perfectly fine as long as nobody is doing anything shady, like lying, as an example Fox News. Disqualifying Vox for being made of humans and having a plausible point of view permeating their work is not a true, valid argument. It does go more to the shady side of trying to promote yourself and your channel by stepping on other's faces.
Especially with no meaningul connection between their bias and their downfall. Like how does one lead to the other? And the fact that he just automatically hearts every comment so complimenting him or even saying he's better than vox speaks more about Mr Ligically answered himself.
Vox for me and the fact that I’m sort of visual and hands-on type of learner, so for me, vox was actually and still is a great way for me to get and understand the news. I still think the really good, especially like you mentioned with the top notch editing and since I am a visual learner and a hands-on learner in my case mentioned, the diagrams and everything help me a lot, and they explain things really well, I think. Way better than traditional gnus, because with traditional news, I always tend to have questions of my own and also I can’t keep up with traditional news. I always send ask my mom or dad or brother oh what did they say? I don’t understand or I couldn’t hear it. Because there is a traditional news channel, they need to make things seem interesting, and they always jump from one topic to another.
@@LogicallyAnswered hey would you make a video about kurzgesagt, they have some controvercy about drugs and big pharma in their videos if i remember right
@@LogicallyAnswered Everyone has a politician agenda nowadays. For a few thousand dollars any TH-cam content creator can create biased videos. Moreover the USA spent 3 trillion dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Used to be a fan of the channel “Second Thought” and left because of the same thing you just described with Vox. Second Thought was great at first but as it progressed, it became further and further left, to the point where he wasn’t so much as informing, rather he was ranting progressively more extremist views. I don’t mind hearing things I don’t support, that’s not why it bothered me. After all, I subbed to him because we originally did share common views. What bothered me is the degree he took things over the years. It became more and more inflammatory, more and more distance from centre with every upload. The thing that really upset me though is that I know he was very smart, and he could write and public speak SO well, however he never actually would offer solutions. He ONLY ever just stirred the pot but (especially after year two) never would actually stoke any of the “what do we do about this” part of the conversation. It’s easy to point out the flaws in society, and yes it is important to talk about them, but if all you are doing is stoking anger and promoting further partisanship/eco chambers, while doing nothing to actually work on the problem, then you’re actually sort of making it more difficult for us who are trying to find common ground and solutions to issues. Over the course of a few years I saw a brilliant mind reduce themselves to mere click bait hatred stoking. He championed progress and enlightenment, but caused more damage than he solved. And so it is with Vox. For a while it was good, but it ended up growing into something very different.
Second Thought has always been explicitly right wing(relative to the US) for as long as I remember(except when he had nothing to do with politics) and it's their discretion to advocate certain ideals and your discretion to apparently point out the obvious.
I agree it has become progressively harder to watch his content. And agree with his points mind you. His videos now feel very samey and just dell like an anxious injection
I'm a moderate and I cannot stand how liberally biased they are they're so far left wing I feel stupid watching him when it comes to anything political
In many ways, the Tldr channels here on youtube has done the same thing now. They started off with some balance in their videos and analyses, but seem to increasingly take a left-leaning perspective to things and go with click-baity titles. They probably had these biases behind the scenes from the very start but are now allowing these to come through because they've concluded that their demographic likes this and it drives more traffic.
Expected to see an explanation of why basically all the former periodist and directors left vox and now are all youtubers. Ended just being told that they are washed off for being leftist media (thanks captain obvious)
I personally don't think that vox pretends not to be biased, they are pretty much upfront at their are liberal, Journalism HAS to be biased, BC the other way around its impossible, there's a difference between bias and propaganda for sure, but everyone has bias and political views, even the people that abstain from politics, so yeah, what a waste of my time
to be fair johnny harris is not a good example whilst successful yes, if the critcism of Vox exists he ironically manfiests them far more than vox could just better at telling stories to skew this, and I used to be a big fan of his till I start listening to the critics and realised a lot is faux-intellectual stuff and constant oversimplifications that have negative outcomes if taken seriously, he prefers the story over real truth and manipulates it all sadly, but they are good stores if not grossly done.
i thought you were going to explain why all the hosts and leadership left. Are we supposed to assume that they all had creative differences with the leftist content? this sounded like a video about organizational shifts but turned into a video about your (not necessarily wrong) take on their bias- which is far less interesting imo
@@LogicallyAnswered I don't even see how organizational bias brang down the company u know? It just seems like a video saying: I don't like how they operate, and they just happened to have a bit of a fallout with not meaningful connection whatsoever.
Like most media sites or companies I just pick and chose what I watch/consume. Like I got box in my Apple News thing but I read like maybe 2-4 of the articles . And most topics I look at other sources or journalists etc etc so I don’t really get vexed with companies like Vox cause it’s pretty obvious what you’re getting
TL:DR. I don't like the POV at VOX and they just happened to have a bit of a downfall. How are they related? Your guess is as good as mine. Oh yeah almost forgot about how they were turning into BuzzFeed but I don't think that's the main reason, the main reason is that I don't like their skewedness. Edit: like when you make a claim like that 6:38, you have to explain how them "telling one side of stories" led to it. Otherwise you just seem to be expressing nothing but discontempt with the company and gratitude at their downfall. If your reasoning just applies itself to media companies, how is Fox news for example not having a downfall? It's hard to believe the number of people here that just take your words at face value and believe it despite zero attempt from you to either explain it or at least give an example of a creator quitting due to them disagreeing with vox's bias. Also whatever political side they want to advocate is completely up to them, and don't even get me started on how you seem to be confusing "covering" with "advocating". As given by many other media companies, a bunch of people being mad at them does not actually harm the media company.
Oh Gosh, the video is interesting, but I stopped halfway when I realized that this is yet another video that could have answered the question in two minutes. I am blocking this channel now. I'm so sick and tired of click bait channels. Bye.
1. "Vox censoring/deplatforming the other side" 10:46 Vox isn't a platform nor a state. It's a private entity. Vox doesn't owe the right a voice. 2. "Vox is one sided" Highly subjective. But if you mean one-sided as in "should also cover the right side of opinion", you have missed what Vox was all about in the first place. Not only are they proudly left, their content is primarily narrative journalism. What that means is it's almost creative literary, but backed up by facts. Wiki will explain it better, but tldr: Narrative journalism requires an agenda. This is not your weather news @11:50. 3. No one is unbiased, doubly so in narrative media. News is never neutral. It's not supposed to be. When people demand objectivity, what they really want is for their viewpoints to be covered. But the only promise of journalism is to be factual, not give everyone airtime @9:06. When a news reports a murder without the killer's opinion, does it stop being true? Objectivity is your personal responsibility.
I'm not denying that Vox does openly "pick a side", but when believing climate change or covid are real have become political statements it's hard to blame them. You cant really take both sides equally seriously when they live in completely different realities..
The problem with vox is that they are obnoxious and lacking any self-reflection. Are there people who don't believe the existence of COVID? Yes they are a tiny tiny minority. The real debate over COVID was whether it was a serious as people thought, it wasn't, and how to deal with it. Those are real debates. Vox supported silencing actual doctors and preventing them from informing people about actual treatments. No, there is a debate on global warming or rather global climate change. And there's more than one. There is a question of how much global climate change is actually going on and the extent to which humans are involved. There's a second debate of how best to address it. For the record, I was warning people in January 2020 about COVID-19 and taking steps to avoid it like wearing a KN95 mask and gloves on the subway and other mass transit. I was taking steps that the government didn't want to, when the government was actively lying. They were lying in order to ensure that doctors would get the protective care equipment. Speaking of which, they've never apologized or explained why they lied, which undermined everything else they did. I've had three boosters and had COVID. Despite being vaccinated and having boosters, it damaged my heart. I believe in global climate change and addressing it. I just don't necessarily agree with the way that the left is addressing it. I think if people want to address it seriously, we would be building a dozen nuclear power plants in America right now.
eh i normally really like your content bu ti seems pretty clear here that you're just bothered that vox isn't rightwing or "centrist" enough for your tastes
Vox has some good videos, and still puts out some marbles, but when it tries to go to social issues... yea... I'm Ok with being biased, just dont claim you aren't. I find Vox's kind of journalism really interesting, because social media took an huge bite out of conventional TV journalism, wich became just, as I heard someone saying "Parliament TV", basically, conventional journalism became all about political analysis and reporting, being it pro or anti government, everything it's political.
I generally enjoy Vox’s content and regularly read their articles, but they are far from the only source I follow for news/analysis. It’s important to not be married to one specific outlet, or form of media, but also to acknowledge that even within a media platform, you’ll find takes that you like, and takes that you don’t.
I'd like to point out sarah jeong is a liberal racist, not a leftist. If she was a leftist she would refrain from racism and point out the flaws of the capitalist system that's propping her up
Great video but I would correct one thing. Vox isn’t “leftward”. But they are indeed liberal. Liberal meaning pro-market neoliberal, pro Democrat, pro cultural war. The word liberal doesn’t mean political left.
Thank you for bringing up this aspect of information panorama. It is now clear to many that true journalism has became a rarity in need of protection. Again, thank you for your clear explanation...
They probably saw the analytics of TH-cam, and took a wrong decision to shut down. YT analytics can look demotivating - economic viability wise. May be investors halted.
This is not a great take. It appears quite uninformed on politics. I’m sorry. Love your tech content though. The truth has a left leaning bias. Please research the Overton window and it’s progression rightward. A journalist’s job is not to present both views, it’s to seek out the truth. If one side says “it’s raining outside” and the other side says “it’s not raining outside”, the journalist’s job is to go outside and find the truth. That metaphor is famous within journalistic theory/education. Sorry mate. B- is quite generous I think.
I don't like this video, the narrative feels completely disconnected from reality. - Vox has always been left-leaning, afaik Vox has never claimed to be centrist - Plenty of people that left Vox continue to make videos from a leftist perspective, so clearly the bias isn't why they left - Vox receives criticism from people that aren't leftists, that just makes sense
I have no problem with networks having a bias, just as long as they make it clear that it's opinion, and make sure their viewers know to not take it seriously.
I don't dislike Vox, I like some of their sub brands like the verge and NY mag, also they've got some great podcasts under their podcast network, waveform, pivot and decoder to name a few. Overall no conpany is perfect and Vox is no exception, but I still enjoy their content and creative works
You literally put my exact thoughts to the video. I used to comment the political bias of vox on their videos and either get ignored or worse ridiculed. Channels showing the two sides of the coin will always have my subscription, so now I have you too.
Agreed! Vox is very biased towards the left and only shows the left in a good light! Now, this is common for big news sources to pick a side and stay with it, but Vox does this to the extreme! Vox doesn't really like other opinions or thoughts, even though the left is all about "inclusivity".
Actually, I think the people who left where also too political, but I prefer to choose the word fanatical. I have watched Chloe and the map guy channel. Great entertaining products, with great visual production, but lack of objectivity and deep research in their videos.
Ow... They were my favorite content creators here in TH-cam.. I love how they present the stories. Seems like they give too much effort.. to the point that I kept on searching on what style of presentation they were using
Yea they did a report on border of Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 and haití 🇭🇹 and it was completely one sided interview el spoken knowledge and English speakers on one side and in the other they interview a taxi driver that didn’t know English and was a just a county guy that didn’t even bespoke Spanish well
I wish there were more politically neutral content on TH-cam, especially on topics such as left/right and USA/China. Only good ones I found so far are Caspian Report and Ryan Chapman.
I think that it's simply impossible to be objective just because of the fact that you can't cover all the news in the world, but despite that fact the media should be respectful and try to, at least, make clear that you always should do your own research. Anyway Vox is a great entertainment
• so, let me get this straight • if VOX did a story about EVOLUTION, they would be biased because they DIDN'T present a counter-story on CREATIONISM? • does every story have a legitimate counter-story? • are there two sides to EVERY issue? if so, why only two? • who decides what's an ISSUE and what's NEWS • i guess you do • A bit IRONIC don't you think. YOU are going to SUBJECTIVELY decide what's OBJECTIVE
I thought the cause of the "downfall" is sthing totally different but in the end I unsubscribed because of what you said so I completely agree. I was a fan for a while but the bias is too obvious.
I still watch them but they are bias and you can tell. I feel like it's getting worse but for now I'll still watch and I can take the basis with some salt.
I have always enjoyed Vox’s TH-cam content a lot, while largely avoiding their website like the plague. I know and expect the content to have a strong liberal bias and sometimes spin. Because of that, I do my best view their content through that lens and with a large grain of salt. I still enjoy their videos and consider their opinions/arguments seriously but people should be careful it’s not the only place they’re getting their news. My grandfather always said “never trust a man with one book.” I always say never trust a man with one new-source”.
Started paying attention to them at 2015. I want to believe they’re occasional good but they just exhaust me. The Fourth Estate is declining, and I hate it.
I agree 'literary' with your view, I agree with the problem assessed. And everything stated here is fairly presented and informed, as is usual per this channel. However, I think it's impossible to stay neutral with any news topic, because of so many factors, such as philosophical, technical, you name it. I know that Vox is an American generic wanna be “liberal” media. Sometimes being in the middle or letting the "other side" talk, (depending upon context) it's not something that will give a fair perspective. There's a fallacy in American political discourse, that states that there are two extremes, and that by calming each other down, you can get something fair. They are topics that simply are one-sided, others that are more nuanced, or they have implicit meaning with what's not said. Moreover, trying to be factual, knowing that is impossible (no really, even scientific papers have 'political' motivation, trying to prove or discredit something) implies a biased view from whom is saying such thing. I don't blame Logically Answered for the 'one sided' take, even tough I agree with the problems with Vox, because what prompt me to this comment, is something much broader and complex that I see, among watching Anglo content creators. Keep up the good work, cheers 👍🏻
I still remember the Vox video, where they published that Hillery Clinton won the 2016 election. They used words such as; "a commanding victory" even though she lost. Can't find the video unfortunatly. Funniest shit ever 🤣
Personally, my problem with bias in media is not that it exists, but moreover when media tries to pretend that it’s not biased. Just be upfront with it.
There’s no fight going on in the comments. This is a good day for the internet.
Why would they proceed with this stupidity (thinking from their perspective) it's BUSINESS no hard feelings
if they were to be upfront about it then they cant nurture their viewers into their way of thinking = less viewers = less money
100% agreed. Funny thing is I believe that's exactly how it used to be back in the 1800's - everybody had *their* newspaper, so of course you'd get bias if you read one paper or another, that was expected.
not to give credit to Vox but my impression is they're pretty upfront about where they stand
An example of 'You have become the very thing you swore to destroy'
Reminds me of what Obi-wan said to Anakin on Mustafar.
Beware of your enemies for one day you will become just like they are.
I like watching VOX sometimes. Especially when its about nature, farming or other things. But when it comes to social topics it’s unbearable.
Yeah vox talking about non social/political things are fun to watch
I got into Vox based on their Hong Kong videos. I like a lot of their content. But I always feel like that in order to make short form content, they leave out crucial information.
@@mechengr1731 no shit, bro probably reads 100-page essays instead tho
Ikr, Vox is just very biased towards the left when it comes to the social things. I liked Johnny Haris's map stuff, those videos were actually educational!
As a viewer outside US, my most favorite thing about Vox is the story about international borders. They talked about international conflict between two countries as a results of tight security along the border. They do it in many country such as at South America, europe and literal conflict at the ocean. Love it!
Check out Johnny Harris’s TH-cam channel.
Same here, and the one behind that kind of video is johny harris, he's now starting his own channel. You can check it out but for me, i don't really like his channel, sometimes it's feel like he's trying to pushed his oppinion through his content. Maybe because he's independent now and have more freedom to share his oppinion. In some ways maybe it's good, but in this case i don't really like him anymore.
even that is sometimes fabricated
A rare good video that Vox has, yes.
You never really answered the question on why journalists left vox and you gave a vague answer on why people hate vox. Having a political lean shouldn’t make you hated unless the reporting is straying from the facts. I left this video with no complete answers to the questions you posed. Not saying you were wrong on anything I’m just sitting here now wondering what the answers are.
Journos left for same reason they are leaving everyone. Corp journos are horribly underpaid and overworked. Going freelance is hard but they have higher ceiling and can work on what they care about personally.
The point this video is making is 1.) Vox started publishing riffraff content which doesn't provide any value similar to what Buzzfeed used to do. 2.) It became a biased media source while initially it was unbiased 3.) They started cherry-picking facts to suit their biased narrative. Hope you got the answer now
Johnny Harris left vox in 2020 over disagreements with higher ups about the 4th season of borders (which was never published), it covered a lot of US political issues that in the wake of the BLM movement and Capitol riots it seems vox didn’t want to move forward with.
@@AkashSingh-le1gk It was always biased as stated in this video the first topics covered were supporting videos on Weed and Obamacare
@@ollyfirth4641 Reporting Story’s/Opinion pieces that are founded in facts does not make them biased per se, just because one site does not like the drawn conclusions.
I have not watched the videos /read the stories (?), so I can’t say in this case but just naming 2 left/right conflict topics does not makes them woke/wrong/biased in my opinion.
There’s obviously no such thing as media without some kind of bias, but to use the weed v alcohol article as proof of the liberal agenda is so funny to me. There is literal scientific literature overwhelmingly supporting this premise there isn’t “two sides” to every issue. Sometimes one side is just completely wrong and doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously. Same goes for stuff like climate change
Except marijuana literally ruins lives and climate change is literally a leftist dogwhistle. You ever stop to consider that your side is the wrong side?
You can't argue with these cry baby conservatives can you ? For them scientific facts are to hard to cope with.
As someone who left the left because it was becoming so radicalized and also faith reinvigorated, yes I agree that Vox is biased to a whole new level! Now yes, the conservatives have their problems too, I'm pretty sure global warming is still real, but yeah the far left is clearly being more radicalized than the right! I've seen how bad the left liberal people can be, Vox used to be a great news source but nowadays it is just so one sided. Some bias will always exist in this day and age, but Vox takes it to a whole new level!
@@bloodwargaming3662 In my experience, the far left is way more unscientific and illogical than the far right, but yeah why do the conservatives deny climate change? I've always wondered why but no one has a clear answer.
You don't need to go that deep. Go over to their website right now and read the article on immigration. If that doesn't set off partisan alarm bells, I don't know what to say...
Gosh, thank you for clarifying that... I love their content but It was always incomplete... Regularly I was leaving a comment asking for a followup episode to complete the topic which obviously never came... Quite sad... I indeed rarely watch their videos nowadays compared to before...
"Thanks for the thoughtful comment - it's good to hear from someone who's been following Vox for a while. 😊"
They are super woke that’s what happened
Hahaha
voxe 🤔
I didn’t know that was the case, because I’ve stopped consuming news generally. I used to watch Young Turks. Tldr sometimes, but they also biased. They all biased. So I mostly stopped. My views are rarely expressed in either left or right media. They both have the wrong premise to start with.
Logically answered, I watch almost all of them.
You hit the nail on the headd
@@yungifez same here with tldr. So sad. They were so promising
I used to love them. Their coverage of the Syrian war is a large part of what got me into geo-politics, but especially the foreign policy of America and the west. after 2016 it just went down hill. It felt like they became more like activists, when I just wanted objective coverage
2016 just broke a lot of media sites.
I cannot put my finger on what happened that year that made a lot of them morph into activist rags...
Same. Its still high quality, but with a very prominent ideological perspective now
Being knowledgeable about some of the subjects Vox has covered, their slant is both obvious and annoying. If you catch a group only telling half the story about one subject, that taints their credibility in all subjects.
I appreciate your thoughtful feedback, however I feel Vox's journalistic integrity remains intact. 🤗
@@cyrileo no I'd have to agree with Matter of Facts, there is an obvious leaning in Vox articles. Criticism is a chance to grow and not meant to be a diss.
@@cyrileo easy to for it to remain intact when it didn't exist in the first place.
I've watched every single video on Vox and I agree with you about Vox being left-leaning but it doesn't tell half of the story it tells a different story. for
'Why the US isn't ready for clean energy', for example, doesn't talk about whether climate change is real or not, but rather the challenges of implementing climate solutions, a completely different story/topic.
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
I started doubting vox when they made a video titled "why Ethiopia is in civil war" as an Ethiopian I was excited to see one of my favorite channels cover this topic, but I was shocked when I saw how the video twisted facts and was very baised. I still like many of their contents but I watch it more carefully now
i personally really like vox's 'informative' content, not political or social commentary, but instead just information about a random topic. like their recent ones on soccer or pickleball. They are well made and i always learn something new, which is good. its funny though, after seeing this video i went to look at their channels recent uploads, and i was blown away by how much they post that never even made it to my feed. let alone the weird stuff that they post online on their website
i view them more as a 'edutainment' channel (from my experience anyways), where i can learn something quirky that i otherwise wouldnt have. and at that, they excel. as a news source however...yeah...maybe not :D
With Borders canceled, Atlas series was the only reason for most to watch the channel, but they slowly started phasing that series out as well, which really sucked, as both series shined the light on some serious issues around the world. I disagreed with their political stance, but their documentaries and trivial videos are amazing, sucks that they started to produce them on slower pace.
Same
I felt that the videos for atlas and borders were informative, although they were definitely biased af which is why I stopped watching them
theirs still Geography Now
Funnily enough I didn’t know Vox, when I first saw it I thought “wow what a nice independent journalism channel”, but not much later I thought about it and concluded it was just another legacy media after seeing more of their content
I was a big fan of Vox in the mid 2010s. Their content and animations made me actually interested in news and I learned a lot from their videos. But I slowly started them being too leftist but hey, every media picks a side so I thought I'll just ignore that. Besides, it's good to get perspective from different sides. But then they started to defend every leftist sgenda and their arguments were so bizarre. What made me finally quit Vox was a video about "Why Taxes Are Unfair To Poor & Favour The Rich" and I was excited to learn something new. But do you know what their argument was? It went something like "If a poor person in the 10% tax bracket gave a tax-deductible charity donation of $100, then he only saves $10 in taxes. But if a rich person in the 37% tax bracket makes the same donation, he'll save $37. That's unfair." I remember shouting at my computer screen like, "DUDE! THAT"S HOW PERCENTAGES WORK!!!"
When I first saw Vox I was impressed with their quality and clean cut delivery, but it didn't take me long to see their bias.
My brain instantly organized them as 'untrustworthy'.
This is not what I want when I'm looking to be educate myself, so I activatly started avoiding them on my feed.
All perspectives have bias. when people complain about bias they mean: a perspective which I disagree with.
What have they said that isn't trustworthy? Or did you just label them that way because they said things you didn't agree with, and have a different bias then you?
@Zaydan Alfariz so you don't like them because *checks notes* you don't think their video was right? With absolutely no evidence otherwise?
Same! When I first found out about Vox, it seemed amazing in quality and it was for a time, but yeah Vox soon became really biased and not very educational! I'm in the process of leaving the left, and I notice more and more how Vox is a reason why people think Americans are stupid, uneducated, and ignorant!
Same thing that happened to Vice!! They lost their way, their direction, and their drive!!
they lost their way? Their drive? Drive towards what? Every publication has an overly political bias.. theres no such thing as not having one. You just dont like their politics so you say they have lost their way because youre a dumbasss who doesnt realize thats theres no such thing as being objective EVERYTING has a political bias
Yeah got too political and just one sided not criticizing everything
While many of them didn't necessarily hide their biases in the early days, their content was still honest, great examples of low budget, "boots on the ground" journalism. They really did some great stuff back then - but man was that a long time ago...
I'm happy they tried to make media good again but seeing how it's downfall I'm very sad this happened 😞
👍 Thanks for your thoughtful comment 💬 It's good to see that people are still trying to make media better even when it's hard! It's a tough job, but I'm inspired by the courage of those who do it.
@@cyrileo I can't tell if you work for vox or if you're parodying them but it's freaking hilarious
Yeah, for a time Vox was good but now it is trash! Vox is now very biased towards the left, way more left than most news sources nowadays too!
Many years ago I began a journey to find THE news source, which I could trust. I tried everything from Vox to NYT to Wall Street News and Bloomberg. I have landed on The economist. While they have their bias, everyone has bias. And different degree of bias. I think if the bias is closer to center, then the problem of bias should be looked more through a lens of values. What is the thing that we can agree. Then we can together look at the facts, together meaning I read the articles or listen to podcasts and do my own analysis. I think important values are liberalism, rule of law, strong democracy and belief in the discussion, as a way to find the best solution.
having just one news source isnt the bets plan
@@ducksongfans yeah even the unbias new sources can be biased
Just be careful with the economist as they have an extremely strong pro-capitalist/corporate bend
Have you tried Frontline? I like their documentaries. Several of them are free on youtube.
@Zaydan Alfariz stupid comment. Lots of economist are not capitalist.
I think with all the options out there they failed to reach broad appeal. People are not only waking up to media bias, but are actively finding better options. I love Breaking Points for example, it does have a bias, but not like these companies do.
@CLEMENTE I took a quick look and it looks like a conservative channel, so I do notice bias, but you guys say they aren't that bias, could you tell me more.
Especially about this socialist vs libertarian conversation
If you go to the breaking points page there is about 30 to 1 ratio negative coverage of Democrats compared to Republicans. Just because they cover both sides doesn't mean it isn't effectively conservative propaganda.
All news media is written by news journalists, who will inevitably project their political biases. The problem arises when media companies try to present themselves as unbiased and objective.
NPR really gets under my skin for doing this. Like, it's so obvious that their reporters scour for the most pro-government sources imaginable. Makes sense since NPR is government funded. Yet NPR just won't admit that they're partial towards certain views, and even wrote an article scoffing at accusations of bias.
All viewpoints should be supported by corroborated evidence. If you're only relying on one media company as a news source, you're probably getting misinformed to some degree. It's okay to listen to NPR, or Breaking Points, or even goddamn Russel Brand for all I care, as long as it's not exclusively just one of them.
I saw a few breaking points videos, but Krystal is too nice and doesn't challenge Sagar on anything he says. And they mostly attack democrats and barely attack republicans. So it's a pretty conservative outlet
@@bevvy.bee9 Krystal is a socialist and Sagar is... Maybe a libertarian? Not sure he seems to be traditional conservative. But the setup is that they bring up a topic and give their views on it, and usually Sagar gets away with saying whatever he likes and Krystal doesn't challenge him on it and they end up blaming the democrats for all of it. That's how it usually plays out.
Ngl, your really underrated. At first I was thinking “oh it’s prolly just that he’s new. there’s tons of high quality channels who just aren’t large due to the fact that they’re new”, but then I realized that you’ve been doing this for long enough that you should’ve had more traction by now. Confusing
Also, great video!
Thanks man! Really appreciate the support!
It seems genuine content isn't commercially viable. Think genuine workout programs/information, science, information dense music etc. He's literally that good.
Conservative viewpoints are usually much less valuable than liberal viewpoints, and it is good that Vox doesn't pretend otherwise. These charges of "bias" are shallow and rooted in false notions of neutrality. Not every story has two sides-- only some do, while others don't. However, Vox's version of liberalism is also often stupid. Vox's actual problems are different and more subtle than your criticism suggests.
The thing with vox is it's very centred in US social politics which makes it annoying for me as an european
Everything made of people will inevitably have a point of view. Vox's point of view leans left as this channel leans more to the right, and that is perfectly fine as long as nobody is doing anything shady, like lying, as an example Fox News.
Disqualifying Vox for being made of humans and having a plausible point of view permeating their work is not a true, valid argument. It does go more to the shady side of trying to promote yourself and your channel by stepping on other's faces.
Especially with no meaningul connection between their bias and their downfall. Like how does one lead to the other? And the fact that he just automatically hearts every comment so complimenting him or even saying he's better than vox speaks more about Mr Ligically answered himself.
lol @ "more left" and "more right"
I guess some people are just made for binary level thought
Vox for me and the fact that I’m sort of visual and hands-on type of learner, so for me, vox was actually and still is a great way for me to get and understand the news.
I still think the really good, especially like you mentioned with the top notch editing and since I am a visual learner and a hands-on learner in my case mentioned, the diagrams and everything help me a lot, and they explain things really well, I think. Way better than traditional gnus, because with traditional news, I always tend to have questions of my own and also I can’t keep up with traditional news. I always send ask my mom or dad or brother oh what did they say? I don’t understand or I couldn’t hear it. Because there is a traditional news channel, they need to make things seem interesting, and they always jump from one topic to another.
Quality content man you are underrated for sure
Thank you Astyla!
@@LogicallyAnswered hey would you make a video about kurzgesagt, they have some controvercy about drugs and big pharma in their videos if i remember right
@@LogicallyAnswered Everyone has a politician agenda nowadays. For a few thousand dollars any TH-cam content creator can create biased videos. Moreover the USA spent 3 trillion dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Even Vox did the same when they are reporting about Kashmir. They cherry picked whatever they want.
i actully agree
Used to be a fan of the channel “Second Thought” and left because of the same thing you just described with Vox. Second Thought was great at first but as it progressed, it became further and further left, to the point where he wasn’t so much as informing, rather he was ranting progressively more extremist views. I don’t mind hearing things I don’t support, that’s not why it bothered me. After all, I subbed to him because we originally did share common views. What bothered me is the degree he took things over the years. It became more and more inflammatory, more and more distance from centre with every upload. The thing that really upset me though is that I know he was very smart, and he could write and public speak SO well, however he never actually would offer solutions. He ONLY ever just stirred the pot but (especially after year two) never would actually stoke any of the “what do we do about this” part of the conversation. It’s easy to point out the flaws in society, and yes it is important to talk about them, but if all you are doing is stoking anger and promoting further partisanship/eco chambers, while doing nothing to actually work on the problem, then you’re actually sort of making it more difficult for us who are trying to find common ground and solutions to issues.
Over the course of a few years I saw a brilliant mind reduce themselves to mere click bait hatred stoking. He championed progress and enlightenment, but caused more damage than he solved.
And so it is with Vox. For a while it was good, but it ended up growing into something very different.
Second Thought has always been explicitly right wing(relative to the US) for as long as I remember(except when he had nothing to do with politics) and it's their discretion to advocate certain ideals and your discretion to apparently point out the obvious.
So you’re mad they don’t align with your right wing trumper ideas😂 okay bud. Just ho to faux news then
I agree it has become progressively harder to watch his content. And agree with his points mind you. His videos now feel very samey and just dell like an anxious injection
"Everything woke turns to shit."
-Donald Trump (love him or hate, that's facts)
Hahaha
I'm a moderate and I cannot stand how liberally biased they are they're so far left wing I feel stupid watching him when it comes to anything political
Seeing they belong to the same umbrella as The Verge and Polygon, that’s all I need to know
In many ways, the Tldr channels here on youtube has done the same thing now. They started off with some balance in their videos and analyses, but seem to increasingly take a left-leaning perspective to things and go with click-baity titles. They probably had these biases behind the scenes from the very start but are now allowing these to come through because they've concluded that their demographic likes this and it drives more traffic.
Expected to see an explanation of why basically all the former periodist and directors left vox and now are all youtubers. Ended just being told that they are washed off for being leftist media (thanks captain obvious)
I think the problem with your critique here is that there is no such thing as “objective” news
6:55 has nothing to do with Vox Media. That is Vox Technology Park in Romania.
"High quality journalism" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I stopped paying attention to them when I noticed that their videos didn’t always add up and it always seemed to push a certain agenda
Or it asked a question without giving a clear answer...
I personally got tired of all types of news because reality is too complex to figure out. So, I quit all media and news.
I personally don't think that vox pretends not to be biased, they are pretty much upfront at their are liberal, Journalism HAS to be biased, BC the other way around its impossible, there's a difference between bias and propaganda for sure, but everyone has bias and political views, even the people that abstain from politics, so yeah, what a waste of my time
to be fair johnny harris is not a good example whilst successful yes, if the critcism of Vox exists he ironically manfiests them far more than vox could just better at telling stories to skew this, and I used to be a big fan of his till I start listening to the critics and realised a lot is faux-intellectual stuff and constant oversimplifications that have negative outcomes if taken seriously, he prefers the story over real truth and manipulates it all sadly, but they are good stores if not grossly done.
i thought you were going to explain why all the hosts and leadership left. Are we supposed to assume that they all had creative differences with the leftist content? this sounded like a video about organizational shifts but turned into a video about your (not necessarily wrong) take on their bias- which is far less interesting imo
ps i do love your work btw!
I appreciate the constructive feedback Andrew. I will keep that in mind for future scripts.
@@LogicallyAnswered I don't even see how organizational bias brang down the company u know? It just seems like a video saying: I don't like how they operate, and they just happened to have a bit of a fallout with not meaningful connection whatsoever.
Like most media sites or companies I just pick and chose what I watch/consume. Like I got box in my Apple News thing but I read like maybe 2-4 of the articles . And most topics I look at other sources or journalists etc etc so I don’t really get vexed with companies like Vox cause it’s pretty obvious what you’re getting
i actully agree
TL:DR. I don't like the POV at VOX and they just happened to have a bit of a downfall. How are they related? Your guess is as good as mine. Oh yeah almost forgot about how they were turning into BuzzFeed but I don't think that's the main reason, the main reason is that I don't like their skewedness.
Edit: like when you make a claim like that 6:38, you have to explain how them "telling one side of stories" led to it. Otherwise you just seem to be expressing nothing but discontempt with the company and gratitude at their downfall. If your reasoning just applies itself to media companies, how is Fox news for example not having a downfall? It's hard to believe the number of people here that just take your words at face value and believe it despite zero attempt from you to either explain it or at least give an example of a creator quitting due to them disagreeing with vox's bias.
Also whatever political side they want to advocate is completely up to them, and don't even get me started on how you seem to be confusing "covering" with "advocating".
As given by many other media companies, a bunch of people being mad at them does not actually harm the media company.
News organizations should, nay, _must_ be political, just not *partisan.*
Vice media also the same as Vox.
Oh Gosh, the video is interesting, but I stopped halfway when I realized that this is yet another video that could have answered the question in two minutes. I am blocking this channel now. I'm so sick and tired of click bait channels. Bye.
i actully agree
no, vox is partial, rather than informative
1. "Vox censoring/deplatforming the other side" 10:46
Vox isn't a platform nor a state. It's a private entity. Vox doesn't owe the right a voice.
2. "Vox is one sided"
Highly subjective. But if you mean one-sided as in "should also cover the right side of opinion", you have missed what Vox was all about in the first place. Not only are they proudly left, their content is primarily narrative journalism. What that means is it's almost creative literary, but backed up by facts. Wiki will explain it better, but tldr: Narrative journalism requires an agenda. This is not your weather news @11:50.
3. No one is unbiased, doubly so in narrative media.
News is never neutral. It's not supposed to be. When people demand objectivity, what they really want is for their viewpoints to be covered. But the only promise of journalism is to be factual, not give everyone airtime @9:06. When a news reports a murder without the killer's opinion, does it stop being true?
Objectivity is your personal responsibility.
thank you for tuning down the music
Why do you only have 400K subs. Great channel man.
Vox has more completion now from better people such as Logically Answered.
Joss Fong. Mentioned that VOX competion isn't CNBC or CNN. Thier competition are independent creators.
I'm not denying that Vox does openly "pick a side", but when believing climate change or covid are real have become political statements it's hard to blame them. You cant really take both sides equally seriously when they live in completely different realities..
This.
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The problem with vox is that they are obnoxious and lacking any self-reflection. Are there people who don't believe the existence of COVID? Yes they are a tiny tiny minority. The real debate over COVID was whether it was a serious as people thought, it wasn't, and how to deal with it. Those are real debates. Vox supported silencing actual doctors and preventing them from informing people about actual treatments.
No, there is a debate on global warming or rather global climate change. And there's more than one. There is a question of how much global climate change is actually going on and the extent to which humans are involved. There's a second debate of how best to address it.
For the record, I was warning people in January 2020 about COVID-19 and taking steps to avoid it like wearing a KN95 mask and gloves on the subway and other mass transit. I was taking steps that the government didn't want to, when the government was actively lying. They were lying in order to ensure that doctors would get the protective care equipment. Speaking of which, they've never apologized or explained why they lied, which undermined everything else they did. I've had three boosters and had COVID. Despite being vaccinated and having boosters, it damaged my heart.
I believe in global climate change and addressing it. I just don't necessarily agree with the way that the left is addressing it. I think if people want to address it seriously, we would be building a dozen nuclear power plants in America right now.
eh i normally really like your content bu ti seems pretty clear here that you're just bothered that vox isn't rightwing or "centrist" enough for your tastes
Whenever my cat waves his paws he gets treats
Enough wizard proof signs for me
Vox has made fools of themselves so many times that I won't watch any of their content.
Vox has some good videos, and still puts out some marbles, but when it tries to go to social issues... yea... I'm Ok with being biased, just dont claim you aren't. I find Vox's kind of journalism really interesting, because social media took an huge bite out of conventional TV journalism, wich became just, as I heard someone saying "Parliament TV", basically, conventional journalism became all about political analysis and reporting, being it pro or anti government, everything it's political.
6:49
Ooof that wasn't a roast it was putting vox inside the sun.
I generally enjoy Vox’s content and regularly read their articles, but they are far from the only source I follow for news/analysis. It’s important to not be married to one specific outlet, or form of media, but also to acknowledge that even within a media platform, you’ll find takes that you like, and takes that you don’t.
Vox Once had extremely skilled journalists like Johny Harris . I remember their video on Brazil s Petrobras and Lebanon . Sadly that journalism ended
But they're NOT covering one side of the story. They do cover both sides, they just advocate for one side over another. There is a difference.
I'd like to point out sarah jeong is a liberal racist, not a leftist. If she was a leftist she would refrain from racism and point out the flaws of the capitalist system that's propping her up
Great video but I would correct one thing. Vox isn’t “leftward”. But they are indeed liberal. Liberal meaning pro-market neoliberal, pro Democrat, pro cultural war. The word liberal doesn’t mean political left.
Thank you for bringing up this aspect of information panorama. It is now clear to many that true journalism has became a rarity in need of protection.
Again, thank you for your clear explanation...
They probably saw the analytics of TH-cam, and took a wrong decision to shut down. YT analytics can look demotivating - economic viability wise. May be investors halted.
I rarely watch vox after Johnny moved out.
What is happening to Vox was a long time coming.
This is not a great take. It appears quite uninformed on politics. I’m sorry. Love your tech content though. The truth has a left leaning bias. Please research the Overton window and it’s progression rightward. A journalist’s job is not to present both views, it’s to seek out the truth. If one side says “it’s raining outside” and the other side says “it’s not raining outside”, the journalist’s job is to go outside and find the truth. That metaphor is famous within journalistic theory/education. Sorry mate. B- is quite generous I think.
Yup!!
What dashboard/tool are you using to track their engagements? Looks pretty good m
I don't like this video, the narrative feels completely disconnected from reality.
- Vox has always been left-leaning, afaik Vox has never claimed to be centrist
- Plenty of people that left Vox continue to make videos from a leftist perspective, so clearly the bias isn't why they left
- Vox receives criticism from people that aren't leftists, that just makes sense
I have no problem with networks having a bias, just as long as they make it clear that it's opinion, and make sure their viewers know to not take it seriously.
I don't dislike Vox, I like some of their sub brands like the verge and NY mag, also they've got some great podcasts under their podcast network, waveform, pivot and decoder to name a few. Overall no conpany is perfect and Vox is no exception, but I still enjoy their content and creative works
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain - Joker
7:49 "Top drag queen met RuPaul"
Noway !!! She is GORGEOUS !!!!
People tried the woke sammich and they found it lacking
The pendulum swings
You literally put my exact thoughts to the video. I used to comment the political bias of vox on their videos and either get ignored or worse ridiculed. Channels showing the two sides of the coin will always have my subscription, so now I have you too.
Agreed! Vox is very biased towards the left and only shows the left in a good light! Now, this is common for big news sources to pick a side and stay with it, but Vox does this to the extreme! Vox doesn't really like other opinions or thoughts, even though the left is all about "inclusivity".
Actually, I think the people who left where also too political, but I prefer to choose the word fanatical. I have watched Chloe and the map guy channel. Great entertaining products, with great visual production, but lack of objectivity and deep research in their videos.
Ow... They were my favorite content creators here in TH-cam.. I love how they present the stories. Seems like they give too much effort.. to the point that I kept on searching on what style of presentation they were using
Some of the documentaries are really good while some are extremely weird and strange.
Yea they did a report on border of Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 and haití 🇭🇹 and it was completely one sided interview el spoken knowledge and English speakers on one side and in the other they interview a taxi driver that didn’t know English and was a just a county guy that didn’t even bespoke Spanish well
When I say knowledgeable I mean that it knew what he was talking about but yet it was one sided and with leading questions
I would love to see an objective and informative news source. As you said, Vox is not it.
I didn't know vox was that popular. And I didn't know they were that unpopular. So ... informative!
I wish there were more politically neutral content on TH-cam, especially on topics such as left/right and USA/China. Only good ones I found so far are Caspian Report and Ryan Chapman.
Watching vox is mostly for great videography to learn
Vox and Vice used to be amazing platforms of independent journalism, and now they became a shell of its former glory.
"It's understandable that a large org gets criticism, but it's troubling to see so many leaving. 🤔"
I think that it's simply impossible to be objective just because of the fact that you can't cover all the news in the world, but despite that fact the media should be respectful and try to, at least, make clear that you always should do your own research. Anyway Vox is a great entertainment
i actully agree with you
• so, let me get this straight
• if VOX did a story about EVOLUTION, they would be biased because they DIDN'T present a counter-story on CREATIONISM?
• does every story have a legitimate counter-story?
• are there two sides to EVERY issue? if so, why only two?
• who decides what's an ISSUE and what's NEWS
• i guess you do
• A bit IRONIC don't you think. YOU are going to SUBJECTIVELY decide what's OBJECTIVE
I thought the cause of the "downfall" is sthing totally different but in the end I unsubscribed because of what you said so I completely agree. I was a fan for a while but the bias is too obvious.
I still watch them but they are bias and you can tell. I feel like it's getting worse but for now I'll still watch and I can take the basis with some salt.
i actully agree
I have always enjoyed Vox’s TH-cam content a lot, while largely avoiding their website like the plague.
I know and expect the content to have a strong liberal bias and sometimes spin. Because of that, I do my best view their content through that lens and with a large grain of salt. I still enjoy their videos and consider their opinions/arguments seriously but people should be careful it’s not the only place they’re getting their news.
My grandfather always said “never trust a man with one book.” I always say never trust a man with one new-source”.
Love the clip where you can see vtuber "Vox" Akuma (5.25).
I don't think being biased is a bad thing for media companies, since the most famous ones are probably the most biased
For me the reason why I don't like vox is because it's just American Propaganda.
i actully agree
If they are preparing a video named what happen to Logically answered😅
what is "a truly objective news organization"? where do you get your news from?
Isn’t that the whole problem 😂
So why did so many of the important people leave at nearly the same time?
Started paying attention to them at 2015. I want to believe they’re occasional good but they just exhaust me. The Fourth Estate is declining, and I hate it.
I agree 'literary' with your view, I agree with the problem assessed. And everything stated here is fairly presented and informed, as is usual per this channel.
However, I think it's impossible to stay neutral with any news topic, because of so many factors, such as philosophical, technical, you name it. I know that Vox is an American generic wanna be “liberal” media. Sometimes being in the middle or letting the "other side" talk, (depending upon context) it's not something that will give a fair perspective.
There's a fallacy in American political discourse, that states that there are two extremes, and that by calming each other down, you can get something fair. They are topics that simply are one-sided, others that are more nuanced, or they have implicit meaning with what's not said.
Moreover, trying to be factual, knowing that is impossible (no really, even scientific papers have 'political' motivation, trying to prove or discredit something) implies a biased view from whom is saying such thing.
I don't blame Logically Answered for the 'one sided' take, even tough I agree with the problems with Vox, because what prompt me to this comment, is something much broader and complex that I see, among watching Anglo content creators.
Keep up the good work, cheers 👍🏻
I still remember the Vox video, where they published that Hillery Clinton won the 2016 election. They used words such as; "a commanding victory" even though she lost. Can't find the video unfortunatly. Funniest shit ever 🤣
Channel is moving to negative everything is collapsing 😂 UNSUBSCRIBING