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Back in 1992 I had an 88 YJ that I wanted to lift on a budget. I eliminated the Track and Sway Bars first. Then I broke the spring packs apart and retained the stock YJ main leaf only. I then disassembled rear spring packs from a late 70's 1-ton Chevy pickup. I added three leafs from the Chevy spring pack and used a cheap (around $70 back then) 3" add-a-leaf made for the YJ. The combo gave me an ultra soft riding 5" lift with amazing articulation off road. I just got an '87 YJ project that I'm going to do the exact same thing with.
9mmARman Got a 1990 YJ 4.2, lifting it next spring, might just steal your idea on this one! I daily drive a 1989 1/2 ton 4x4 Chevy, I can get old GM truck parts quite easily, I like your thinking, seems like a really good idea.
Derek Bryant-you will have to drill out the stock jeep mainspring and the jeep add-a-leaf for the larger diameter center pin of the Chevy springs. So when you buy the new pin make sure you get the Chevy size and not the stock jeep size. I'm considering a spring over axle conversion also but I'm not sold on the idea. I want the greater articulation of the arched list springs and if I add the over-axle also, I might have too much lift. I'm actually doing this project as cheap as I can, just like I did it back in '92. I got the running '87 Jeep for free with a small amount of body rot and more rear frame rot. Not an issue, I'll make new rear frame rails. I even got a set of 4-cylinder axles (with my preferred 4.10 gears) also for free. Now a free set of 1-ton springs and I'm right on track!
Man..at my fleetpride shop..a co worker was doing what your doing..sticking his hand in between the spring pad and spring.. he is now the owner of only 3 fingers and looks like he has t rex hands.. even with all the stands and jacks... things move.. dont put ur hands in the middle of there..
Someone suggested that the reason the springs are below the axle is because of "axle wrap. I've watched videos of the effect and do not see why "axle wrap" would be more profound with the axle under the spring rather than over the top. Please explain. Seems the axle is going to try to twist either place.
I love your videos. I was a Block Mason for 23 years. And please do not take this as an insult or attack. There is only "One Safe Way" to use a Block as a spacer for lifting anything. The Safe Way is not to use them. Granted, you have it the strong way. Webs up. But those Blocks get suffled, banged together, dropped, ect. It puts weak spots in them. And they can shatter or split. And all it takes is hitting it with a hammer, large wrench and it is in pieces and the vehicle is 8" lower and on you. Take it from the guy with 2 back surgeries, it isn't worth it. Seriously, I am not trolling or being an Ass. But, I would hate to see someone hurt ir killed. Find some 4x4 post, and cut them up. Keep up the videos. They are great. And I am finished "Mother Henning".
Nope .. not taking it negatively in any manner bud. I normally will not use blocks at all for that exact reason. I was at a friends house and that is all he had. I would have brought my jack stands if had known. Is that still a good excuse .. nope. The 4x4 posts do work well, I've used then several times. Thanks for taking the time to leave a great tip!!
@@Poweraddicts I have been guilty of the same thing. I would be a Liar if I said I never have used blocks before. I have been hurt enough now. So I do not risk it at all. Be safe, and thanks for your time and knowledge on the Videos.
I've got some springs from a blazer, the 3+1 springs, they are about 5/16th inch thick per leaf, definitely not as thick as the ones you put in, would you still recommend the main blazer leaf up front and the second blazer leaf in the back?
If they are thicker than the factory YJ leaf then you should get some lift out of it. It may not be as much as it would be with a thicker leaf. I personally would still try it.
I didnt remove my main leaves at all. Use the main leaf from the S10 pack in the front. Then use the 2nd leaf from the S10 pack in the rear. Your good....
I was told before I can order the slip yoke Eliminator and the extension drive shaft I have to identify the transmission on a 87 Jeep Wrangler where is the tag located on the transmission
Its not really the transmission you gotta ID with. It is the transfer case you gotta make sure is correct. Here is a link to one of my T-case videos. Notice the red circle tag above where I point out the fluid plugs and speed sensor. That red tag should have the transfer case ID. Mine says NP231 .. look to see what yours is. That will be what you need to order the slip yoke kit. Vido link here: th-cam.com/video/xoy95aPkjgg/w-d-xo.htmlm15s
Honesty I haven't tested it yet hard yet. I've parked in a few weird positions for the fun it which flexed it some. But, nothing really extreme. If had to make a guess, I would say I may have lost some flex because of the thicker leaf. But, I did remove a leaf as well. So how much? Who knows? The only reason the track bars are still installed it I want to set up a controlled scenario for testing before and after. Set up a flex test for video while they are still installed. Then a little road trip for a road manners video. Remove the track bars and repeat. This would help answer lots of questions that people have about removing the track bars. I just really haven't had time yet to set up a scenario like that. I could probably remove them and put them back on later for video.
Granted, I did replace 2 Jeep leaves in the back with GM, THAT was way too stiff. I pulled the GM leaf and put the proper Jeep leaf in ... much better. That is shown in part 2.
you mentioned a "set" of springs from a GMC jimmy.... all 4 or which parts parts of the spring did you use? i see that you took them apart ... did you use one GMC stack on one side IE the main spring for the front and the second spring for the rear ?? you didnt explain that part.
I did kinda mention, but I wasn't very clear at all. Sorry about that. I was experimenting with using more of the GM pack to get more lift. Which turned out to be a "very rough riding" mistake. By me trying to make up my mind what I wanted to do, I made the "which parts to use" more confusing than it needed to be. Anyway .. here is the parts of the GM pack you will use. The main leaf from the GM pack gets the eyes cut off and replaces Jeep leaf #2 under the front factory Jeep main leaf, the cut GM leaf becomes leaf number 2. Use the remaining Jeep leaves for the front and you are good to go. For the rear, leave the factory Jeep main leaf, replace Jeep leaf #2 with GM leaf #2, use the rest of the Jeep pack and you are good for the rear. Here is video part 2 which explains my mess up and explains which leaves to use to do it correctly: th-cam.com/video/_rYMUJMIZuM/w-d-xo.html . Sorry about the confusion. Hope this helps. I still have no regrets about lifting this way, it was very inexpensive. I got plenty of lift without drastically killing the ride quality. It rides a bit rougher. When I remove the track bars it should be much better. That video will be coming fairly soon. Thanks for dropping in and checking out the video! Have a great day!!
Has this tip helped you? Here is a free way to help me. Here is my Amazon influencer page that has many of the parts I've used in videos and some parts that friends have used. www.amazon.com/shop/poweraddicts-fixjeepscom-jeepcarandmotorcycletips?ref=ac_inf_hm_vp . By purchasing through this Amazon page you help me get a small commission of the sale and you do not get charged a cent more. Keep checking back because I update the Amazon page often. Thanks for your support!
Back in 1992 I had an 88 YJ that I wanted to lift on a budget. I eliminated the Track and Sway Bars first. Then I broke the spring packs apart and retained the stock YJ main leaf only. I then disassembled rear spring packs from a late 70's 1-ton Chevy pickup. I added three leafs from the Chevy spring pack and used a cheap (around $70 back then) 3" add-a-leaf made for the YJ. The combo gave me an ultra soft riding 5" lift with amazing articulation off road. I just got an '87 YJ project that I'm going to do the exact same thing with.
9mmARman Got a 1990 YJ 4.2, lifting it next spring, might just steal your idea on this one! I daily drive a 1989 1/2 ton 4x4 Chevy, I can get old GM truck parts quite easily, I like your thinking, seems like a really good idea.
Derek Bryant-you will have to drill out the stock jeep mainspring and the jeep add-a-leaf for the larger diameter center pin of the Chevy springs. So when you buy the new pin make sure you get the Chevy size and not the stock jeep size. I'm considering a spring over axle conversion also but I'm not sold on the idea. I want the greater articulation of the arched list springs and if I add the over-axle also, I might have too much lift.
I'm actually doing this project as cheap as I can, just like I did it back in '92. I got the running '87 Jeep for free with a small amount of body rot and more rear frame rot. Not an issue, I'll make new rear frame rails. I even got a set of 4-cylinder axles (with my preferred 4.10 gears) also for free. Now a free set of 1-ton springs and I'm right on track!
Man..at my fleetpride shop..a co worker was doing what your doing..sticking his hand in between the spring pad and spring.. he is now the owner of only 3 fingers and looks like he has t rex hands.. even with all the stands and jacks... things move.. dont put ur hands in the middle of there..
You sir are freaking brilliant! I’ve learned so much by watching your videos.
i used the entire s10 pack and the main leaf from the jeep on a xj it rides great i got 3inches of lift
That would work with the XJs being they are soo much heavier. I tried that with my YJ, man it felt like I had welded the diffs to the frame!
Never heard it called an angry cricket before lol
dont use concrete, lumber yard 6'' x ; x 6'' x18'' wood blocks. no jack stands.
pile up blocks .
where did you get that new locator bolt? what are the specs?
I always called that the "Ford" carb adjustment tool!
Someone suggested that the reason the springs are below the axle is because of "axle wrap. I've watched videos of the effect and do not see why "axle wrap" would be more profound with the axle under the spring rather than over the top. Please explain. Seems the axle is going to try to twist either place.
I love your videos. I was a Block Mason for 23 years. And please do not take this as an insult or attack. There is only "One Safe Way" to use a Block as a spacer for lifting anything. The Safe Way is not to use them. Granted, you have it the strong way. Webs up. But those Blocks get suffled, banged together, dropped, ect. It puts weak spots in them. And they can shatter or split. And all it takes is hitting it with a hammer, large wrench and it is in pieces and the vehicle is 8" lower and on you. Take it from the guy with 2 back surgeries, it isn't worth it. Seriously, I am not trolling or being an Ass. But, I would hate to see someone hurt ir killed. Find some 4x4 post, and cut them up. Keep up the videos. They are great. And I am finished "Mother Henning".
Nope .. not taking it negatively in any manner bud. I normally will not use blocks at all for that exact reason. I was at a friends house and that is all he had. I would have brought my jack stands if had known. Is that still a good excuse .. nope. The 4x4 posts do work well, I've used then several times. Thanks for taking the time to leave a great tip!!
@@Poweraddicts I have been guilty of the same thing. I would be a Liar if I said I never have used blocks before. I have been hurt enough now. So I do not risk it at all. Be safe, and thanks for your time and knowledge on the Videos.
I've got some springs from a blazer, the 3+1 springs, they are about 5/16th inch thick per leaf, definitely not as thick as the ones you put in, would you still recommend the main blazer leaf up front and the second blazer leaf in the back?
If they are thicker than the factory YJ leaf then you should get some lift out of it. It may not be as much as it would be with a thicker leaf. I personally would still try it.
My main leafs are sacked right out. Would this help get some arc back to the mains?
I didnt remove my main leaves at all. Use the main leaf from the S10 pack in the front. Then use the 2nd leaf from the S10 pack in the rear. Your good....
excellent
What Chevy pens did you use
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I was told before I can order the slip yoke Eliminator and the extension drive shaft I have to identify the transmission on a 87 Jeep Wrangler where is the tag located on the transmission
Its not really the transmission you gotta ID with. It is the transfer case you gotta make sure is correct. Here is a link to one of my T-case videos. Notice the red circle tag above where I point out the fluid plugs and speed sensor. That red tag should have the transfer case ID. Mine says NP231 .. look to see what yours is. That will be what you need to order the slip yoke kit. Vido link here: th-cam.com/video/xoy95aPkjgg/w-d-xo.htmlm15s
Did you lose a lot of flex with those thick springs... and why do you a still have your track bars in
Honesty I haven't tested it yet hard yet. I've parked in a few weird positions for the fun it which flexed it some. But, nothing really extreme. If had to make a guess, I would say I may have lost some flex because of the thicker leaf. But, I did remove a leaf as well. So how much? Who knows? The only reason the track bars are still installed it I want to set up a controlled scenario for testing before and after. Set up a flex test for video while they are still installed. Then a little road trip for a road manners video. Remove the track bars and repeat. This would help answer lots of questions that people have about removing the track bars. I just really haven't had time yet to set up a scenario like that. I could probably remove them and put them back on later for video.
It does lift it but compromises the ride. Very stiff.
I've had aftermarket lift kits that rode much worse. After ditching the track bars, it rides better than it did stock.
Granted, I did replace 2 Jeep leaves in the back with GM, THAT was way too stiff. I pulled the GM leaf and put the proper Jeep leaf in ... much better. That is shown in part 2.
you mentioned a "set" of springs from a GMC jimmy.... all 4 or which parts parts of the spring did you use? i see that you took them apart ... did you use one GMC stack on one side IE the main spring for the front and the second spring for the rear ?? you didnt explain that part.
I did kinda mention, but I wasn't very clear at all. Sorry about that. I was experimenting with using more of the GM pack to get more lift. Which turned out to be a "very rough riding" mistake. By me trying to make up my mind what I wanted to do, I made the "which parts to use" more confusing than it needed to be. Anyway .. here is the parts of the GM pack you will use. The main leaf from the GM pack gets the eyes cut off and replaces Jeep leaf #2 under the front factory Jeep main leaf, the cut GM leaf becomes leaf number 2. Use the remaining Jeep leaves for the front and you are good to go. For the rear, leave the factory Jeep main leaf, replace Jeep leaf #2 with GM leaf #2, use the rest of the Jeep pack and you are good for the rear. Here is video part 2 which explains my mess up and explains which leaves to use to do it correctly: th-cam.com/video/_rYMUJMIZuM/w-d-xo.html . Sorry about the confusion. Hope this helps. I still have no regrets about lifting this way, it was very inexpensive. I got plenty of lift without drastically killing the ride quality. It rides a bit rougher. When I remove the track bars it should be much better. That video will be coming fairly soon. Thanks for dropping in and checking out the video! Have a great day!!
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